Hey, 99 Percenters, You Call This 'Fair'?

[daveman]

So you want to raise taxes on the poor, the working class, the middle class, and everyone else who's in the not-Rich category,

to make it 'fair'.

What's new...

So $105K a year is rich now?

Funny how that number keeps getting lower, innit?

 

[Valerie]

I think it's funny that you guys are so butthurt about making those people that survive on $20,000 a year or less "pay their fair share".

That's the thing, people also "pay" with their time and their effort and sacrifice, etc... Not sure what "fair" really means when you consider all the factors of real life work.


The tax rate is there to be met by the natural forces of the market so the rate you fall under is not inherently unfair, only circumstances that put you in one bracket or another could be considered fair or unfair...

 

[daveman]

Hey, 99 Percenters, You Call This 'Fair'?

A study by the New York City Independent Budget Office was released this week, and you didn't hear much about it in the mainstream media because it hurts their candidate's message.

Keep in mind, I'm your Conservative Everyman. I'm no economist, nor am I a political scientist. I call 'em as I see 'em just like you do. And away we go...


New York City has a little more than 8 million residents. Of those many millions, 1% -- ONE PERCENT -- pays 43% of the income taxes. You know how many people that works out to? About 35,000 people.

Picture in your mind's eye the City of New York, not just Manhattan, but all five boroughs. Imagine the throngs here right now enjoying the holidays. Think about the police presence, the sanitation, the schools brimming with children...East Side, West Side, The Village -- a hell of a town! 8 million people!

Now imagine Yankee Stadium, or any average Major League ballpark, and fill it except for the nosebleed seats. That tiny number pays almost HALF the operating costs for the city. How's THAT for fair?

Another kick in the head is that ten percent of New Yorkers pay 71% of the taxes. Guess how much income it takes to crack that ten percent?You don't have to be one of the millionaires or billionaires whom the Divider in Chief loves to vilify. You need not be an evil fat cat making $200,000 -- perish the thought! What's it take to crack the top ten percent in the most expensive city in America? $105,000. Yep, a buck five.​

And of course the mind numbed liberal left will stick fingers in ears and yell LA LA LA LA LA....Then tell you those people are not paying their "fair share".

You called it.

 

[Steelplate]

If life were fair, the lazy would starve to death instead of electing other people to rob the wealth of those who aren't lazy.

Reread the part in BOLD. In that post... you are expressing the Conservative viewpoint that the wealthy aren't lazy.... and since you think that the poor benefit from the wealth of the wealthy... It certainly seems to me that you think the poor are lazy.

I was refuting that. But I know that's way beyond your third grade reasoning level for your attempt at a "gotcha!"

 

[Steelplate]

So you want to raise taxes on the poor, the working class, the middle class, and everyone else who's in the not-Rich category,

to make it 'fair'.

What's new...

So $105K a year is rich now?

Funny how that number keeps getting lower, innit?

Who said that?

 

[daveman]

Hey, 99 Percenters, You Call This 'Fair'?

A study by the New York City Independent Budget Office was released this week, and you didn't hear much about it in the mainstream media because it hurts their candidate's message.

Keep in mind, I'm your Conservative Everyman. I'm no economist, nor am I a political scientist. I call 'em as I see 'em just like you do. And away we go...


New York City has a little more than 8 million residents. Of those many millions, 1% -- ONE PERCENT -- pays 43% of the income taxes. You know how many people that works out to? About 35,000 people.

Picture in your mind's eye the City of New York, not just Manhattan, but all five boroughs. Imagine the throngs here right now enjoying the holidays. Think about the police presence, the sanitation, the schools brimming with children...East Side, West Side, The Village -- a hell of a town! 8 million people!

Now imagine Yankee Stadium, or any average Major League ballpark, and fill it except for the nosebleed seats. That tiny number pays almost HALF the operating costs for the city. How's THAT for fair?

Another kick in the head is that ten percent of New Yorkers pay 71% of the taxes. Guess how much income it takes to crack that ten percent?You don't have to be one of the millionaires or billionaires whom the Divider in Chief loves to vilify. You need not be an evil fat cat making $200,000 -- perish the thought! What's it take to crack the top ten percent in the most expensive city in America? $105,000. Yep, a buck five.​

Thank you for posting this. It does a great job highlighting the massive income disparity in this country.

The top 1% pays 43%

The next 9% pays 28% ----- and this line starts at 105k

And the rest of the 90% pay 29%

Youch.

That's a lot of underpaid mother fuckers.

Underpaid? How can you asset that?

 

[theDoctorisIn]

So you want to raise taxes on the poor, the working class, the middle class, and everyone else who's in the not-Rich category,

to make it 'fair'.

What's new...

So $105K a year is rich now?

Funny how that number keeps getting lower, innit?

"Rich" and "Poor" are subjective terms. Do you think that someone who makes more money than 90% of working New Yorkers shouldn't be considered "rich"?

 

[daveman]

Vomit... I hate the smell of Vomit... especially right wing vomit from hell.

​

Not at all. just throwing back what I feel about your post. What? You don't like Constructive Criticism?

How about this? Most of our poor work very hard. You assume that success=Work ethic. I know a approximately 10 businessmen personally. All of whom have achieved a decent level of success. about half of them really bust their asses. One has a vinyl Fence Company, one has a landscaping company, one is a mechanic with his own garage, one is a hairdresser with her own salon and one has a small excavating company. The rest are good salesmen... they have the gift of bullshit and a ruthless nature.

You know what? The original five are more liberal leaning, the other ones are die hard Conservatives. Funny how the hard working ones Know how tough it is to make it and the ones that basically sit on their asses for a living do all the complaining about people "beneath them".

Anecdotal evidence is anecdotal...and more than likely bullshit.

 

[theDoctorisIn]

Hey, 99 Percenters, You Call This 'Fair'?

A study by the New York City Independent Budget Office was released this week, and you didn't hear much about it in the mainstream media because it hurts their candidate's message.

Keep in mind, I'm your Conservative Everyman. I'm no economist, nor am I a political scientist. I call 'em as I see 'em just like you do. And away we go...


New York City has a little more than 8 million residents. Of those many millions, 1% -- ONE PERCENT -- pays 43% of the income taxes. You know how many people that works out to? About 35,000 people.

Picture in your mind's eye the City of New York, not just Manhattan, but all five boroughs. Imagine the throngs here right now enjoying the holidays. Think about the police presence, the sanitation, the schools brimming with children...East Side, West Side, The Village -- a hell of a town! 8 million people!

Now imagine Yankee Stadium, or any average Major League ballpark, and fill it except for the nosebleed seats. That tiny number pays almost HALF the operating costs for the city. How's THAT for fair?

Another kick in the head is that ten percent of New Yorkers pay 71% of the taxes. Guess how much income it takes to crack that ten percent?You don't have to be one of the millionaires or billionaires whom the Divider in Chief loves to vilify. You need not be an evil fat cat making $200,000 -- perish the thought! What's it take to crack the top ten percent in the most expensive city in America? $105,000. Yep, a buck five.​

Thank you for posting this. It does a great job highlighting the massive income disparity in this country.

The top 1% pays 43%

The next 9% pays 28% ----- and this line starts at 105k

And the rest of the 90% pay 29%

Youch.

That's a lot of underpaid mother fuckers.

Underpaid? How can you asset that?

Median income per capita in New York is $22K.

 

[daveman]

Dave,,,,,,YOU are part of the 99%. Dumbass.

That's the funniest part.

Keep reading.

 

[Steelplate]

Hey, 99 Percenters, You Call This 'Fair'?

A study by the New York City Independent Budget Office was released this week, and you didn't hear much about it in the mainstream media because it hurts their candidate's message.

Keep in mind, I'm your Conservative Everyman. I'm no economist, nor am I a political scientist. I call 'em as I see 'em just like you do. And away we go...


New York City has a little more than 8 million residents. Of those many millions, 1% -- ONE PERCENT -- pays 43% of the income taxes. You know how many people that works out to? About 35,000 people.

Picture in your mind's eye the City of New York, not just Manhattan, but all five boroughs. Imagine the throngs here right now enjoying the holidays. Think about the police presence, the sanitation, the schools brimming with children...East Side, West Side, The Village -- a hell of a town! 8 million people!

Now imagine Yankee Stadium, or any average Major League ballpark, and fill it except for the nosebleed seats. That tiny number pays almost HALF the operating costs for the city. How's THAT for fair?

Another kick in the head is that ten percent of New Yorkers pay 71% of the taxes. Guess how much income it takes to crack that ten percent?You don't have to be one of the millionaires or billionaires whom the Divider in Chief loves to vilify. You need not be an evil fat cat making $200,000 -- perish the thought! What's it take to crack the top ten percent in the most expensive city in America? $105,000. Yep, a buck five.​

Thank you for posting this. It does a great job highlighting the massive income disparity in this country.

The top 1% pays 43%

The next 9% pays 28% ----- and this line starts at 105k

And the rest of the 90% pay 29%

Youch.

That's a lot of underpaid mother fuckers.

Underpaid? How can you asset that?

Because if they were properly paid, they'd be paying more in taxes.... don't you get it? I'll put in the simplest of terms... THE POOR DON'T HAVE ANY MONEY. The fact that 90% of them only pay 9% of the taxes means... THERE ARE A LOT OF THEM.

 

[Crackerjack]

If life were fair, the lazy would starve to death instead of electing other people to rob the wealth of those who aren't lazy.

Reread the part in BOLD. In that post... you are expressing the Conservative viewpoint that the wealthy aren't lazy.... and since you think that the poor benefit from the wealth of the wealthy... It certainly seems to me that you think the poor are lazy.

I was refuting that. But I know that's way beyond your third grade reasoning level for your attempt at a "gotcha!"

No, you see, I don't speak in code. I say what I mean. I know it's confusing to hacks, but you'll get over it. "Wealth" is simply anything of value. Look it up if you don't believe me.

Good luck backing out of this corner, though. I know it's embarrassing, but you'll live.

 

[mskafka]

Hey, 99 Percenters, You Call This 'Fair'?

A study by the New York City Independent Budget Office was released this week, and you didn't hear much about it in the mainstream media because it hurts their candidate's message.

Keep in mind, I'm your Conservative Everyman. I'm no economist, nor am I a political scientist. I call 'em as I see 'em just like you do. And away we go...


New York City has a little more than 8 million residents. Of those many millions, 1% -- ONE PERCENT -- pays 43% of the income taxes. You know how many people that works out to? About 35,000 people.

Picture in your mind's eye the City of New York, not just Manhattan, but all five boroughs. Imagine the throngs here right now enjoying the holidays. Think about the police presence, the sanitation, the schools brimming with children...East Side, West Side, The Village -- a hell of a town! 8 million people!

Now imagine Yankee Stadium, or any average Major League ballpark, and fill it except for the nosebleed seats. That tiny number pays almost HALF the operating costs for the city. How's THAT for fair?

Another kick in the head is that ten percent of New Yorkers pay 71% of the taxes. Guess how much income it takes to crack that ten percent?You don't have to be one of the millionaires or billionaires whom the Divider in Chief loves to vilify. You need not be an evil fat cat making $200,000 -- perish the thought! What's it take to crack the top ten percent in the most expensive city in America? $105,000. Yep, a buck five.​

Just out of curiosity, what made you decide on NY, when you live in KY? It was just an article that you came across?

 

[daveman]

They're busy organizing a drum circle. Give them time.

Scouring the lefty sites for talking points. Most involve whining about fairness. Of course, "fair" means "me getting something for free".

Really? Then why is it that the red states are the ones that are taking more federal dollars than the blue states? The Liberal states give, and the 'Conservative' states take.

So why don't you lazy ass wingnuts get off your dead asses, clean the beer cans from the door of your single wide, and go out and get a job. This Lib is getting tired of supporting you whining bigoted bastards and bitchs.

*yawn* Yes, these people look awfully productive, don't they?

 

[Steelplate]

​

Not at all. just throwing back what I feel about your post. What? You don't like Constructive Criticism?

How about this? Most of our poor work very hard. You assume that success=Work ethic. I know a approximately 10 businessmen personally. All of whom have achieved a decent level of success. about half of them really bust their asses. One has a vinyl Fence Company, one has a landscaping company, one is a mechanic with his own garage, one is a hairdresser with her own salon and one has a small excavating company. The rest are good salesmen... they have the gift of bullshit and a ruthless nature.

You know what? The original five are more liberal leaning, the other ones are die hard Conservatives. Funny how the hard working ones Know how tough it is to make it and the ones that basically sit on their asses for a living do all the complaining about people "beneath them".

Anecdotal evidence is anecdotal...and more than likely bullshit.

Whatever you think....I'm not saying that this is the typical ratio or anything.. just saying what I observe... I am actually fairly good friends with all of them and the Conservatives and I have decided not to talk politics anymore.

 

[daveman]

So you want to raise taxes on the poor, the working class, the middle class, and everyone else who's in the not-Rich category,

to make it 'fair'.

What's new...

So $105K a year is rich now?

Funny how that number keeps getting lower, innit?

Who said that?

The OP.

Another kick in the head is that ten percent of New Yorkers pay 71% of the taxes. Guess how much income it takes to crack that ten percent?You don't have to be one of the millionaires or billionaires whom the Divider in Chief loves to vilify. You need not be an evil fat cat making $200,000 -- perish the thought! What's it take to crack the top ten percent in the most expensive city in America? $105,000. Yep, a buck five.​

The threshold for the top 10% of income in NYC is $105K.

 

[daveman]

So you want to raise taxes on the poor, the working class, the middle class, and everyone else who's in the not-Rich category,

to make it 'fair'.

What's new...

So $105K a year is rich now?

Funny how that number keeps getting lower, innit?

"Rich" and "Poor" are subjective terms. Do you think that someone who makes more money than 90% of working New Yorkers shouldn't be considered "rich"?

There you go, Steelplate. It's official. $105K is rich.

 

[daveman]

Thank you for posting this. It does a great job highlighting the massive income disparity in this country.

The top 1% pays 43%

The next 9% pays 28% ----- and this line starts at 105k

And the rest of the 90% pay 29%

Youch.

That's a lot of underpaid mother fuckers.

Underpaid? How can you asset that?

Median income per capita in New York is $22K.

What's that got to do with being underpaid? Are you and Art saying that these people aren't being paid commensurate with their work?

 

[Crackerjack]

The threshold for the top 10% of income in NYC is $105K.

That's pretty low.

 

[theDoctorisIn]

So $105K a year is rich now?

Funny how that number keeps getting lower, innit?

"Rich" and "Poor" are subjective terms. Do you think that someone who makes more money than 90% of working New Yorkers shouldn't be considered "rich"?

There you go, Steelplate. It's official. $105K is rich.

I think you're missing the point.

It's not that $105K is particularly "rich", especially in a city with the most billionaires - but the fact that 90% of New Yorkers make less than that... so, to the vast majority of New Yorkers, $105K is "rich".