Here’s why people flipping burgers and dunking fries SHOULD receive $15 per hour

[Billy000]

When the RIghtwing thinks of $15 per hour, they see it as a symbol of hard work and skilled labor. The problem with this is that in today’s economy, $15 per hour is a meager wage that in places like Cali or NY still amounts to poverty. Wages for the poor are way behind on the rise of cost of living. As a point of reference, the last time someone could get by on $10.00 per hour was in the 1960s. In fact, if the minimum wage had kept up with the rate of inflation, it should be $20.00 per hour. Now you can make the argument that the government shouldn’t raise the min wage, but that wouldn’t change the fact that $20 per hour is what single people need to live on nationwide. (And no, I am not suggesting we just magically make the min wage $20 per hour).

Now, of course, cons will say “well those people should just learn new skills and get a better job!” The problem with this, however, is that the average age of a fast food worker is 35. This isn’t entirely by choice - it’s just the most readily available job one can get. Higher wage jobs in this country are extremely competitive. Low wage jobs greatly outnumber higher wage jobs. This means millions of workers have NO CHOICE but to accept shit paying jobs. More importantly, if these people are making shit wages, how the hell could they find the time and money to learn new skills to get better paying jobs? That is part of the cycle of poverty.

One final point: I’ve never worked fast food, but like many, I’ve been a customer to these businesses. We all know these people just don’t stand around “flipping burgers and dunking fries”. That is a big oversimplification of the job. They all have to take turns running the drive thru, the front registers, and prepare food. It’s non-stop labor from the start of their shift to the end. On top of that, they have to deal with the biggest kind of asshole customers on the planet.

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[Harry Dresden]

so their low wage job is tougher than other low wage jobs?.....

 

[Billy000]

so their low wage job is tougher than other low wage jobs?.....

This job was singled out in another thread. I’m just defending it. My overall point, is that people need at least $15 per hour to survive. Raising the minimum wage is a separate issue, however. I don’t believe it should just become the new standard over night. Gradually raising the min wage over time should have begun decades ago.

 

[ScienceRocks]

The best reason?

Probably because upper management and the ceo makes 1,000 to 10,000 times as much as the normal worker. With the right unions committed to giving a voice to the worker some of this could flow down to the workers....Probably better then a minimum wage and the hourly pay would probably be around $15 bucks per hour...The benefits of doing it this way is they wouldn't need to jack up the price on the consumer.

 

[saveliberty]

How many here only buy American made Amazon items?

Do you set an item back down in a Walmart when its foreign made?

Domestic beer?

US owned vehicles?

Reward companies that pay US employees. That is more effective than tax rates.

 

[TNHarley]

so their low wage job is tougher than other low wage jobs?.....

This job was singled out in another thread. I’m just defending it. My overall point, is that people need at least $15 per hour to survive. Raising the minimum wage is a separate issue, however. I don’t believe it should just become the new standard over night. Gradually raising the min wage over time should have begun decades ago.

Then get 2 part time jobs?

 

[Harry Dresden]

so their low wage job is tougher than other low wage jobs?.....

This job was singled out in another thread. I’m just defending it. My overall point, is that people need at least $15 per hour to survive. Raising the minimum wage is a separate issue, however. I don’t believe it should just become the new standard over night. Gradually raising the min wage over time should have begun decades ago.

you do realize that those in the brackets above will also want a raise and so on up the scale....

 

[saveliberty]

Then get 2 part time jobs?

You most likely will not have health insurance through an employer with that strategy.

 

[aaronleland]

I say give them the money so I don't have to do that shit job. I'll pay a little extra for a burger so that I don't have to flip it.

 

[saveliberty]

I say give them the money so I don't have to do that shit job. I'll pay a little extra for a burger so that I don't have to flip it.

You like making the patties? I grill at home a lot. Doubtful I'd go to a $15/hour hamburger joint.

 

[aaronleland]

I say give them the money so I don't have to do that shit job. I'll pay a little extra for a burger so that I don't have to flip it.

You like making the patties? I grill at home a lot. Doubtful I'd go to a $15/hour hamburger joint.

I don't necessarily think they should make $15/hour, but they should probably make more than they are now. The cost of fast food is already steadily increasing over the years while they pay their employees shit, so if somebody from McDonald's argues that they'd be forced to pass the cost onto the customer you should spit in their fucking face.

 

[saveliberty]

Just pay them piece rate.

 

[saveliberty]

Wonder what would happen if the farmer got $15/hour for the time he raised the cattle?

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

You needed your own thread to counter a currently active thread?

Fucking tard needs some attention

 

[aaronleland]

Wonder what would happen if the farmer got $15/hour for the time he raised the cattle?

Farmers are rewarded with other incentives. When you aren't working with the cattle you can have sex with them.

 

[saveliberty]

Wonder what would happen if the farmer got $15/hour for the time he raised the cattle?

Farmers are rewarded with other incentives. When you aren't working with the cattle you can have sex with them.

You should probably check your hamburger buns more closely....

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

When the RIghtwing thinks of $15 per hour, they see it as a symbol of hard work and skilled labor. The problem with this is that in today’s economy, $15 per hour is a meager wage that in places like Cali or NY still amounts to poverty. Wages for the poor are way behind on the rise of cost of living. As a point of reference, the last time someone could get by on $10.00 per hour was in the 1960s. In fact, if the minimum wage had kept up with the rate of inflation, it should be $20.00 per hour. Now you can make the argument that the government shouldn’t raise the min wage, but that wouldn’t change the fact that $20 per hour is what single people need to live on nationwide. (And no, I am not suggesting we just magically make the min wage $20 per hour).

Now, of course, cons will say “well those people should just learn new skills and get a better job!” The problem with this, however, is that the average age of a fast food worker is 35. This isn’t entirely by choice - it’s just the most readily available job one can get. Higher wage jobs in this country are extremely competitive. Low wage jobs greatly outnumber higher wage jobs. This means millions of workers have NO CHOICE but to accept shit paying jobs. More importantly, if these people are making shit wages, how the hell could they find the time and money to learn new skills to get better paying jobs? That is part of the cycle of poverty.

One final point: I’ve never worked fast food, but like many, I’ve been a customer to these businesses. We all know these people just don’t stand around “flipping burgers and dunking fries”. That is a big oversimplification of the job. They all have to take turns running the drive thru, the front registers, and prepare food. It’s non-stop labor from the start of their shift to the end. On top of that, they have to deal with the biggest kind of asshole customers on the planet.

Tough shit. The work they perform has minimal value. They are not worth $15.00 per hour.

C3PO will do it for free after initial construction costs.

 

[Mousterian]

When these lowly-paid workers get their check, it's spent (back in the economy) before night-fall, in most cases.
When the rich get a payout, it mostly goes to an off-shore tax haven.
A sharp rise in the minimum wage would do more for the economy than any tax cuts for the wealthy.

 

[Billy000]

so their low wage job is tougher than other low wage jobs?.....

This job was singled out in another thread. I’m just defending it. My overall point, is that people need at least $15 per hour to survive. Raising the minimum wage is a separate issue, however. I don’t believe it should just become the new standard over night. Gradually raising the min wage over time should have begun decades ago.

you do realize that those in the brackets above will also want a raise and so on up the scale....

No economic solution is perfect. There will always be unhappy people. Plenty more people are already miserable with the status quo.

 

[Billy000]

When the RIghtwing thinks of $15 per hour, they see it as a symbol of hard work and skilled labor. The problem with this is that in today’s economy, $15 per hour is a meager wage that in places like Cali or NY still amounts to poverty. Wages for the poor are way behind on the rise of cost of living. As a point of reference, the last time someone could get by on $10.00 per hour was in the 1960s. In fact, if the minimum wage had kept up with the rate of inflation, it should be $20.00 per hour. Now you can make the argument that the government shouldn’t raise the min wage, but that wouldn’t change the fact that $20 per hour is what single people need to live on nationwide. (And no, I am not suggesting we just magically make the min wage $20 per hour).

Now, of course, cons will say “well those people should just learn new skills and get a better job!” The problem with this, however, is that the average age of a fast food worker is 35. This isn’t entirely by choice - it’s just the most readily available job one can get. Higher wage jobs in this country are extremely competitive. Low wage jobs greatly outnumber higher wage jobs. This means millions of workers have NO CHOICE but to accept shit paying jobs. More importantly, if these people are making shit wages, how the hell could they find the time and money to learn new skills to get better paying jobs? That is part of the cycle of poverty.

One final point: I’ve never worked fast food, but like many, I’ve been a customer to these businesses. We all know these people just don’t stand around “flipping burgers and dunking fries”. That is a big oversimplification of the job. They all have to take turns running the drive thru, the front registers, and prepare food. It’s non-stop labor from the start of their shift to the end. On top of that, they have to deal with the biggest kind of asshole customers on the planet.

Tough shit. The work they perform has minimal value. They are not worth $15.00 per hour.

C3PO will do it for free after initial construction costs.

Objective economic reality trumps your immature take on the value of labor.