Here’s why people flipping burgers and dunking fries SHOULD receive $15 per hour

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Billy000, Dec 7, 2017.

  1. DGS49
    Offline

    DGS49 Gold Member

    Joined:
    Apr 12, 2012
    Messages:
    5,025
    Thanks Received:
    1,038
    Trophy Points:
    255
    Location:
    Pittsburgh
    Ratings:
    +3,591
    The cost of being financially emancipated (self-supporting) has no logical connection with the value of unskilled labor.

    The minimum wage itself is an economic abomination, as even that Leftist Economic Icon Paul Krugman has admitted IN WRITING (before he became a Democrat hack writer).

    If an employer can find sufficient numbers of capable, willing people to perform a function at a given wage, then why on earth would he pay more? And what right does the Federal Government have to dictate wages (hint: It has no such power)?

    When ANY commodity has its price inflated above its true economic value, then there are three inevitable results: (1) the consumers of that commodity will use less of it, (2) the consumers of that commodity will seek out alternatives, and (3) if the difference between the economic value and the price is sufficient, a black market will come into existence to fill the need, at the appropriate market price.

    These principles apply whether you are talking about potato chips, taxi cab rides, or unskilled labor. In the case of unskilled labor, (a) hours will be cut, (b) the employer will look to automation, labor-saving tools, and contracting out, and (c) the employer will start using "under the table" workers.

    It is rather well documented and well-known that the keys to financial solvency are: graduate from high school, get a job, and don't have babies unless you are married. While MW is not sufficient to support oneself, TWO PEOPLE earning MW can probably cut it in most locales, and if not, they will not be MW workers for long, unless they are....well, I won't write it.
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
  2. Billy000
    Online

    Billy000 Democratic Socialist

    Joined:
    Nov 10, 2011
    Messages:
    14,565
    Thanks Received:
    1,613
    Trophy Points:
    290
    Location:
    Colorado
    Ratings:
    +7,160
    Yeah that’s a wonderful solution. Forget about the misery of doing that for the rest of their lives. That doesn’t matter. Their kids can go ahead and find a way to feed themselves in the process.
     
  3. Billy_Kinetta
    Offline

    Billy_Kinetta Paladin of the Lost Hour Gold Supporting Member Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Mar 4, 2013
    Messages:
    23,139
    Thanks Received:
    4,465
    Trophy Points:
    280
    Ratings:
    +26,695
    Whose economic reality?
     
  4. Billy000
    Online

    Billy000 Democratic Socialist

    Joined:
    Nov 10, 2011
    Messages:
    14,565
    Thanks Received:
    1,613
    Trophy Points:
    290
    Location:
    Colorado
    Ratings:
    +7,160
    Are you really this dense? Poor people. Do I really have to spell this out to you?
     
  5. Billy_Kinetta
    Offline

    Billy_Kinetta Paladin of the Lost Hour Gold Supporting Member Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Mar 4, 2013
    Messages:
    23,139
    Thanks Received:
    4,465
    Trophy Points:
    280
    Ratings:
    +26,695
    What has that to do with overpaying for low-level work?
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
  6. Billy000
    Online

    Billy000 Democratic Socialist

    Joined:
    Nov 10, 2011
    Messages:
    14,565
    Thanks Received:
    1,613
    Trophy Points:
    290
    Location:
    Colorado
    Ratings:
    +7,160
    It’s not overpaying based on the simple logic of the cost of living standards. If you weren’t a dumb rightwinger, you’d understand that.
     
  7. aaronleland
    Offline

    aaronleland Gold Member

    Joined:
    May 19, 2012
    Messages:
    23,398
    Thanks Received:
    5,353
    Trophy Points:
    280
    Ratings:
    +28,191
    The idea that people get paid what they're actually worth has always been a bullshit myth. If the guy serving hundreds of customers a day is of "minimal value" what does that say about the guy at the top being paid millions to push a pencil? We already have computer programs that could replace half of them.
     
    • Funny Funny x 1
  8. Billy_Kinetta
    Offline

    Billy_Kinetta Paladin of the Lost Hour Gold Supporting Member Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Mar 4, 2013
    Messages:
    23,139
    Thanks Received:
    4,465
    Trophy Points:
    280
    Ratings:
    +26,695
    I don't a rat's ass about COL. Not my problem. I'll pay what the work is worth to me. If it's not agreeable, move along. I'll find someone else.
     
  9. Billy000
    Online

    Billy000 Democratic Socialist

    Joined:
    Nov 10, 2011
    Messages:
    14,565
    Thanks Received:
    1,613
    Trophy Points:
    290
    Location:
    Colorado
    Ratings:
    +7,160
    Yeah but no one cares what you think anyway. The grown ups are going to find ways to alleviate poverty.
     
  10. TNHarley
    Offline

    TNHarley Diamond Member

    Joined:
    Sep 27, 2012
    Messages:
    46,281
    Thanks Received:
    6,884
    Trophy Points:
    1,830
    Ratings:
    +44,439
    flipping burgers for the rest of their lives? LOL that IS misery onto itself. Working another shitty job wont hurt.
     
    • Thank You! Thank You! x 1

Share This Page