Guns allow for a democratic society.......

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Yep...when you have a professional warrior class with a monopoly on the weapons of a society...you do not have democracy.......eventually, the government will enslave the citizens....

Anti-Gun Research, or, How to Gain Notoriety While Accomplishing Nothing – Doctors for Responsible Gun Ownership

So let me say it bluntly: Guns were designed to fire high speed projectiles into objects for the purpose of causing death or destruction. Their advantage over edged weapons is that they can be used at long range by people with only moderate training.

In contrast, all edged weapon societies had to have an expert, warrior class. They represented about ten per cent of the population and were trained to bear arms from childhood. They created feudal societies that left most people completely powerless.

On the other hand, where citizens have the right to bear arms, that becomes the basis of a viable republic with democratic principles. As they say: “In a democratic society, your vote counts. In a feudal society, you count votes.”

Worse yet, AGR needlessly interferes with gun owners who shoot for sport. For them, the weapons potential of a firearm is minimized. Target shooting, done correctly, is a physical exercise that confers many benefits. It teaches muscle control, breath control, nerve control, and the discipline of being “on target”. Being on target at the range, I tell my grandchildren, helps being on target in all of life’s endeavors.
 
I see. Then Somalia is the greatest democratic society of on earth. And Afghanistan comes in a close second. LOL

I've been to Somilia... they have lots of guns. All exclusively held by warlords and their minions.

That is how they were able to starve millions of their own people despite an international effort to bring them food.
 
I see. Then Somalia is the greatest democratic society of on earth. And Afghanistan comes in a close second. LOL

I've been to Somilia... they have lots of guns. All exclusively held by warlords and their minions.

That is how they were able to starve millions of their own people despite an international effort to bring them food.


That fits the point of the thread......a small group with weapons can control a large group that is unarmed....
 
I see. Then Somalia is the greatest democratic society of on earth. And Afghanistan comes in a close second. LOL

I've been to Somilia... they have lots of guns. All exclusively held by warlords and their minions.

That is how they were able to starve millions of their own people despite an international effort to bring them food.


That fits the point of the thread......a small group with weapons can control a large group that is unarmed....
Stop spamming the recent news board with your gun fantasies. We get it..you like guns.
 
Yep...when you have a professional warrior class with a monopoly on the weapons of a society...you do not have democracy.......eventually, the government will enslave the citizens....

Anti-Gun Research, or, How to Gain Notoriety While Accomplishing Nothing – Doctors for Responsible Gun Ownership

So let me say it bluntly: Guns were designed to fire high speed projectiles into objects for the purpose of causing death or destruction. Their advantage over edged weapons is that they can be used at long range by people with only moderate training.

In contrast, all edged weapon societies had to have an expert, warrior class. They represented about ten per cent of the population and were trained to bear arms from childhood. They created feudal societies that left most people completely powerless.

On the other hand, where citizens have the right to bear arms, that becomes the basis of a viable republic with democratic principles. As they say: “In a democratic society, your vote counts. In a feudal society, you count votes.”

Worse yet, AGR needlessly interferes with gun owners who shoot for sport. For them, the weapons potential of a firearm is minimized. Target shooting, done correctly, is a physical exercise that confers many benefits. It teaches muscle control, breath control, nerve control, and the discipline of being “on target”. Being on target at the range, I tell my grandchildren, helps being on target in all of life’s endeavors.
The government currently outguns you on a massive scale with their nukes, bombs, fighter jets... They let you have pea shooters to make you feel all badass and make you think that they haven't taken your Constitutional rights away by not allowing you ANY weapon you want, like they have. You guys are such gullible fools. :lol:
 
That does not mean that every jerk in the country need to carry loaded guns everywhere they go.

1300 children are killed by guns in this country every year because stupid, ignorant asshole gun owners can't seem to handle them properly.

Heck, some of them post videos of 8 year olds shooting guns.

The truth is that children's brains can not calculate risk very well & should not handle guns until much older.
 
That does not mean that every jerk in the country need to carry loaded guns everywhere they go.

1300 children are killed by guns in this country every year because stupid, ignorant asshole gun owners can't seem to handle them properly.

Heck, some of them post videos of 8 year olds shooting guns.

The truth is that children's brains can not calculate risk very well & should not handle guns until much older.


Hey....that number has been exposed over and over in multiple threads.....14,15,16,17 year old, stone cold killers shooting each other are not the same as normal children having accidents with guns....the real number of kids 14 and under dying from actual, accidental gun deaths in 2015.....48.

Here are the actual numbers for 2015....for both gun murder.....and non gun murder of children...and accidental gun deaths...notice the difference in numbers?

https://www.cdc.gov/injury/wisqars/leading_causes_death.html
Kids murdered by guns....

under 1: 12
age 1-4: 39

age 5-14: 142

total gun murder of children.....193



Kids murdered by other means...

under 1: 270
age 1-4: 298
age 5-14: 135



murder of children by other means.....703
Now, if even if you include gun accidents into the total.....

you are still wrong....

Accidental death by gun for children....

under 1: 3
age 1-4: 27
age 5-14: 39

Total accidental gun death for kids 2013....69
Total accidental gun death for kids in 2014...50
2015...48

2014...50
2013...69
2012...58
2011...74
2010...62
2009...48
2008...62
2007...65
2006...54
2005...75
2004...63
2003...56
2002...60
2001...72
2000...86
1999...88
 
That does not mean that every jerk in the country need to carry loaded guns everywhere they go.

1300 children are killed by guns in this country every year because stupid, ignorant asshole gun owners can't seem to handle them properly.

Heck, some of them post videos of 8 year olds shooting guns.

The truth is that children's brains can not calculate risk very well & should not handle guns until much older.


8 year olds have been shooting guns with their parents since the founding of this country...the difference now is that democrats have turned too many inner city kids into stone cold killers...
 
I see. Then Somalia is the greatest democratic society of on earth. And Afghanistan comes in a close second. LOL

I've been to Somilia... they have lots of guns. All exclusively held by warlords and their minions.

That is how they were able to starve millions of their own people despite an international effort to bring them food.


That fits the point of the thread......a small group with weapons can control a large group that is unarmed....
Stop spamming the recent news board with your gun fantasies. We get it..you like guns.


Actually, twit....I am not that interested in guns.....not as much as others are....I am interested in individual freedom and the Bill of Rights....and the 2nd Amendment is the one that is under direct attack and receives the least support....
 
That does not mean that every jerk in the country need to carry loaded guns everywhere they go.

1300 children are killed by guns in this country every year because stupid, ignorant asshole gun owners can't seem to handle them properly.

Heck, some of them post videos of 8 year olds shooting guns.

The truth is that children's brains can not calculate risk very well & should not handle guns until much older.


8 year olds have been shooting guns with their parents since the founding of this country...the difference now is that democrats have turned too many inner city kids into stone cold killers...
They did it before science discovered they shouldn't.

I stated a fact. But hey, keep handing guns to your kids because, after all, your kids are special & smarter than everyone else.
 
That does not mean that every jerk in the country need to carry loaded guns everywhere they go.

1300 children are killed by guns in this country every year because stupid, ignorant asshole gun owners can't seem to handle them properly.

Heck, some of them post videos of 8 year olds shooting guns.

The truth is that children's brains can not calculate risk very well & should not handle guns until much older.


8 year olds have been shooting guns with their parents since the founding of this country...the difference now is that democrats have turned too many inner city kids into stone cold killers...
They did it before science discovered they shouldn't.

I stated a fact. But hey, keep handing guns to your kids because, after all, your kids are special & smarter than everyone else.


What science is that, genius? Considering our accident rate with kids and guns has gone down as more Americans own and carry them...explain that.....
 
That does not mean that every jerk in the country need to carry loaded guns everywhere they go.

1300 children are killed by guns in this country every year because stupid, ignorant asshole gun owners can't seem to handle them properly.

Heck, some of them post videos of 8 year olds shooting guns.

The truth is that children's brains can not calculate risk very well & should not handle guns until much older.



They don't care. The OP doesn't care. They even lie about kids that are shot to death.

These bloodthirsty idiots care only about putting more and more guns on the streets. The more people shooting at each other, the better.

Mentally ill? Known and suspected terrorists? Criminals? As long as they've got any and all the guns they want, it's all good.

And every time there's another shooting, knee jerk servants to the NRA and the gun makers obey their orders and blame President Obama.


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That does not mean that every jerk in the country need to carry loaded guns everywhere they go.

1300 children are killed by guns in this country every year because stupid, ignorant asshole gun owners can't seem to handle them properly.

Heck, some of them post videos of 8 year olds shooting guns.

The truth is that children's brains can not calculate risk very well & should not handle guns until much older.



They don't care. The OP doesn't care. They even lie about kids that are shot to death.

These bloodthirsty idiots care only about putting more and more guns on the streets. The more people shooting at each other, the better.

Mentally ill? Known and suspected terrorists? Criminals? As long as they've got any and all the guns they want, it's all good.

And every time there's another shooting, knee jerk servants to the NRA and the gun makers obey their orders and blame President Obama.


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And you are wrong....

The United States...

We went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400 million guns in private hands and over 15.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2017...guess what happened...
-- gun murder down 49%
--gun crime down 75%
--violent crime down 72%

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.

United Kingdom.....banned guns for law abiding citizens....as we increased our gun ownership, they banned and confiscated theirs....

Gun crime in London increases by 42% - BBC News

Gun crime offences in London surged by 42% in the last year, according to official statistics.
The Met Police's figures showed there were 2,544 gun crime offences from April 2016 to April 2017 compared to 1,793 offences from 2015 until 2016.
Knife crime also increased by 24% with 12,074 recorded offences from 2016 to 2017.
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Gun and knife crime soaring in London, official figures show

More worryingly, there was also a rise in the number of guns being fired on London’s streets, up from 239 cases in 2015/16 to 306 cases in the last financial year.

There was also a 20 per cent increase in the rate of knife attacks involving injuries to victims, up from 3,663 to 4,415 in 2016/17.

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“We are concerned about the rise of gun crime and rise of knife crime offences committed by young people and the changing nature of the offenders. “

He said there was evidence that more young people are carrying knives for a variety of reasons including status, criminality and self-protection but said only around a quarter are affiliated with gangs.

He said police were focusing on reducing stabbings by taking weapons and dangerous offenders off the streets and trying to prevent and divert people from crime.
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“With double-digit growth in gun and knife crime - and a youth homicide almost every fortnight - the crime challenge for London is real and serious and has serious impacts for London’s most disadvantaged communities.”
He added: “With 600 victims of serious youth violence each month, the Met needs a new plan to tackle the violence on our capital’s streets if they are to help impoverished communities.
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Violent crime on the rise in every corner of the country, figures suggest

But analysis of the figures force by force, showed the full extent of the problem, with only one constabulary, Nottinghamshire, recording a reduction in violent offences.

The vast majority of police forces actually witnessed double digit rises in violent crime, with Northumbria posting a 95 per cent increase year on year.

Of the other forces, Durham Police recorded a 73 per cent rise; West Yorkshire was up 48 per cent; Avon and Somerset 45 per cent; Dorset 39 per cent and Warwickshire 37 per cent.

Elsewhere Humberside, South Yorkshire, Staffordshire, Essex, Hertfordshire, Kent, Wiltshire and Dyfed Powys all saw violence rise by more than a quarter year on year.

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That does not mean that every jerk in the country need to carry loaded guns everywhere they go.

1300 children are killed by guns in this country every year because stupid, ignorant asshole gun owners can't seem to handle them properly.

Heck, some of them post videos of 8 year olds shooting guns.

The truth is that children's brains can not calculate risk very well & should not handle guns until much older.


Hey....that number has been exposed over and over in multiple threads.....14,15,16,17 year old, stone cold killers shooting each other are not the same as normal children having accidents with guns....the real number of kids 14 and under dying from actual, accidental gun deaths in 2015.....48.

Here are the actual numbers for 2015....for both gun murder.....and non gun murder of children...and accidental gun deaths...notice the difference in numbers?

https://www.cdc.gov/injury/wisqars/leading_causes_death.html
Kids murdered by guns....

under 1: 12
age 1-4: 39

age 5-14: 142

total gun murder of children.....193



Kids murdered by other means...

under 1: 270
age 1-4: 298
age 5-14: 135



murder of children by other means.....703
Now, if even if you include gun accidents into the total.....

you are still wrong....

Accidental death by gun for children....

under 1: 3
age 1-4: 27
age 5-14: 39

Total accidental gun death for kids 2013....69
Total accidental gun death for kids in 2014...50
2015...48

2014...50
2013...69
2012...58
2011...74
2010...62
2009...48
2008...62
2007...65
2006...54
2005...75
2004...63
2003...56
2002...60
2001...72
2000...86
1999...88



Oh brother.

Right on cue.

So, EXACTLY how many dead kids would get you to care enough to pretend to care?

Or should their deaths be measured by how tall the pile of dead bodies is?




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That does not mean that every jerk in the country need to carry loaded guns everywhere they go.

1300 children are killed by guns in this country every year because stupid, ignorant asshole gun owners can't seem to handle them properly.

Heck, some of them post videos of 8 year olds shooting guns.

The truth is that children's brains can not calculate risk very well & should not handle guns until much older.


Hey....that number has been exposed over and over in multiple threads.....14,15,16,17 year old, stone cold killers shooting each other are not the same as normal children having accidents with guns....the real number of kids 14 and under dying from actual, accidental gun deaths in 2015.....48.

Here are the actual numbers for 2015....for both gun murder.....and non gun murder of children...and accidental gun deaths...notice the difference in numbers?

https://www.cdc.gov/injury/wisqars/leading_causes_death.html
Kids murdered by guns....

under 1: 12
age 1-4: 39

age 5-14: 142

total gun murder of children.....193



Kids murdered by other means...

under 1: 270
age 1-4: 298
age 5-14: 135



murder of children by other means.....703
Now, if even if you include gun accidents into the total.....

you are still wrong....

Accidental death by gun for children....

under 1: 3
age 1-4: 27
age 5-14: 39

Total accidental gun death for kids 2013....69
Total accidental gun death for kids in 2014...50
2015...48

2014...50
2013...69
2012...58
2011...74
2010...62
2009...48
2008...62
2007...65
2006...54
2005...75
2004...63
2003...56
2002...60
2001...72
2000...86
1999...88



Oh brother.

Right on cue.

So, EXACTLY how many dead kids would get you to care enough to pretend to care?

Or should their deaths be measured by how tall the pile of dead bodies I'd?




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The anti-gunners like you...you prevent gun safety education in schools.....the same kind of education that saves children from fires...you guys prevent it...so don't tell us you care about dead kids.

Democrats, and anti-gunners in California are lowering the prison time for violent gun offenders...you know, the ones shooting these children in democrat controlled neighborhoods...letting out repeat, violent gun criminals even as Republicans and the NRA are fighting to keep them in prison...and trying to keep them from killing other innocent people...

The only ones trying to save lives here are 2nd Amendment supporters....you guys keep putting killers back on the streets....
 

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