Gun control laws don't work....these guys had a rocket propelled grenade, and an aresnal..

[rightwinger]

Because in the end, everything always ends up........HITLER

Would you like some more recent examples?

Please do.......also include their murder rate

I will..........dummy Harvard University would say youre a dick!!

And making shit up is ghey!!


MORE GUNS = LESS CRIMES


Harvard Study Gun Control Is Counterproductive The American Civil Rights Union

Entire study herein >> Harvard Study-Gun Bans Don t Work Gun News


From the authors:

"If the mantra “more guns equal more death and fewer guns equal less death” were true, broad cross-national comparisons should show that nations with higher gun ownership per capita consistently have more death. Nations with higher gun ownership rates, however, do not have higher murder or suicide rates than those with lower gun ownership. Indeed many high gun ownership nations have much lower murder rates."





s0n.......whats up with consistently pwning yourself publically???!!!

Nations with higher gun ownership rates, however, do not have higher murder or suicide rates than those with lower gun ownership. Indeed many high gun ownership nations have much lower murder rates."
What total bullshit that is totally unsupported by data

Name a nation with a high gun ownership rate that has a lower murder rate than ours

Name a country that has a segment of their society that kills each at such an alarming rate.

When in doubt, blame the.....negroes

 

[2aguy]

Would you like some more recent examples?

Please do.......also include their murder rate

I will..........dummy Harvard University would say youre a dick!!

And making shit up is ghey!!


MORE GUNS = LESS CRIMES


Harvard Study Gun Control Is Counterproductive The American Civil Rights Union

Entire study herein >> Harvard Study-Gun Bans Don t Work Gun News


From the authors:

"If the mantra “more guns equal more death and fewer guns equal less death” were true, broad cross-national comparisons should show that nations with higher gun ownership per capita consistently have more death. Nations with higher gun ownership rates, however, do not have higher murder or suicide rates than those with lower gun ownership. Indeed many high gun ownership nations have much lower murder rates."





s0n.......whats up with consistently pwning yourself publically???!!!

Nations with higher gun ownership rates, however, do not have higher murder or suicide rates than those with lower gun ownership. Indeed many high gun ownership nations have much lower murder rates."
What total bullshit that is totally unsupported by data

Name a nation with a high gun ownership rate that has a lower murder rate than ours

Name a country that has a segment of their society that kills each at such an alarming rate.

When in doubt, blame the.....negroes

For me...I blame the democrats.....that is the actual place to put the blame......

 

[rightwinger]

Because in the end, everything always ends up........HITLER

Would you like some more recent examples?

Please do.......also include their murder rate

I will..........dummy Harvard University would say youre a dick!!

And making shit up is ghey!!


MORE GUNS = LESS CRIMES


Harvard Study Gun Control Is Counterproductive The American Civil Rights Union

Entire study herein >> Harvard Study-Gun Bans Don t Work Gun News


From the authors:

"If the mantra “more guns equal more death and fewer guns equal less death” were true, broad cross-national comparisons should show that nations with higher gun ownership per capita consistently have more death. Nations with higher gun ownership rates, however, do not have higher murder or suicide rates than those with lower gun ownership. Indeed many high gun ownership nations have much lower murder rates."





s0n.......whats up with consistently pwning yourself publically???!!!

Nations with higher gun ownership rates, however, do not have higher murder or suicide rates than those with lower gun ownership. Indeed many high gun ownership nations have much lower murder rates."
What total bullshit that is totally unsupported by data

Name a nation with a high gun ownership rate that has a lower murder rate than ours

Bill Whittle is great and he explains the issue on this video....America is number 1 for gun ownership...but way down on the list for murder.....

That video is fucking offensive

Somehow, 8000+ gun murders are acceptable and we should be happy that we have a lower murder rate than Somalia and Nigeria

Why can't gun nuts compare us to England, France, Germany, Japan or Canada?

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Would you like some more recent examples?

Please do.......also include their murder rate

I will..........dummy Harvard University would say youre a dick!!

And making shit up is ghey!!


MORE GUNS = LESS CRIMES


Harvard Study Gun Control Is Counterproductive The American Civil Rights Union

Entire study herein >> Harvard Study-Gun Bans Don t Work Gun News


From the authors:

"If the mantra “more guns equal more death and fewer guns equal less death” were true, broad cross-national comparisons should show that nations with higher gun ownership per capita consistently have more death. Nations with higher gun ownership rates, however, do not have higher murder or suicide rates than those with lower gun ownership. Indeed many high gun ownership nations have much lower murder rates."





s0n.......whats up with consistently pwning yourself publically???!!!

Nations with higher gun ownership rates, however, do not have higher murder or suicide rates than those with lower gun ownership. Indeed many high gun ownership nations have much lower murder rates."
What total bullshit that is totally unsupported by data

Name a nation with a high gun ownership rate that has a lower murder rate than ours

Name a country that has a segment of their society that kills each at such an alarming rate.

When in doubt, blame the.....negroes

Oh there's no doubt.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Please do.......also include their murder rate

I will..........dummy Harvard University would say youre a dick!!

And making shit up is ghey!!


MORE GUNS = LESS CRIMES


Harvard Study Gun Control Is Counterproductive The American Civil Rights Union

Entire study herein >> Harvard Study-Gun Bans Don t Work Gun News


From the authors:

"If the mantra “more guns equal more death and fewer guns equal less death” were true, broad cross-national comparisons should show that nations with higher gun ownership per capita consistently have more death. Nations with higher gun ownership rates, however, do not have higher murder or suicide rates than those with lower gun ownership. Indeed many high gun ownership nations have much lower murder rates."





s0n.......whats up with consistently pwning yourself publically???!!!

Nations with higher gun ownership rates, however, do not have higher murder or suicide rates than those with lower gun ownership. Indeed many high gun ownership nations have much lower murder rates."
What total bullshit that is totally unsupported by data

Name a nation with a high gun ownership rate that has a lower murder rate than ours

Name a country that has a segment of their society that kills each at such an alarming rate.

When in doubt, blame the.....negroes

For me...I blame the democrats.....that is the actual place to put the blame......

True enough,they are responsible for the deplorable conditions of our inner cities.

 

[rightwinger]

Please do.......also include their murder rate

I will..........dummy Harvard University would say youre a dick!!

And making shit up is ghey!!


MORE GUNS = LESS CRIMES


Harvard Study Gun Control Is Counterproductive The American Civil Rights Union

Entire study herein >> Harvard Study-Gun Bans Don t Work Gun News


From the authors:

"If the mantra “more guns equal more death and fewer guns equal less death” were true, broad cross-national comparisons should show that nations with higher gun ownership per capita consistently have more death. Nations with higher gun ownership rates, however, do not have higher murder or suicide rates than those with lower gun ownership. Indeed many high gun ownership nations have much lower murder rates."





s0n.......whats up with consistently pwning yourself publically???!!!

Nations with higher gun ownership rates, however, do not have higher murder or suicide rates than those with lower gun ownership. Indeed many high gun ownership nations have much lower murder rates."
What total bullshit that is totally unsupported by data

Name a nation with a high gun ownership rate that has a lower murder rate than ours

Name a country that has a segment of their society that kills each at such an alarming rate.

When in doubt, blame the.....negroes

Oh there's no doubt.

Tell us more.....White gun owners are responsible....its them negroes

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

I will..........dummy Harvard University would say youre a dick!!

And making shit up is ghey!!


MORE GUNS = LESS CRIMES


Harvard Study Gun Control Is Counterproductive The American Civil Rights Union

Entire study herein >> Harvard Study-Gun Bans Don t Work Gun News


From the authors:

"If the mantra “more guns equal more death and fewer guns equal less death” were true, broad cross-national comparisons should show that nations with higher gun ownership per capita consistently have more death. Nations with higher gun ownership rates, however, do not have higher murder or suicide rates than those with lower gun ownership. Indeed many high gun ownership nations have much lower murder rates."





s0n.......whats up with consistently pwning yourself publically???!!!

Nations with higher gun ownership rates, however, do not have higher murder or suicide rates than those with lower gun ownership. Indeed many high gun ownership nations have much lower murder rates."
What total bullshit that is totally unsupported by data

Name a nation with a high gun ownership rate that has a lower murder rate than ours

Name a country that has a segment of their society that kills each at such an alarming rate.

When in doubt, blame the.....negroes

Oh there's no doubt.

Tell us more.....White gun owners are responsible....its them negroes

Are you blind? Look at our inner cities ya fucken idiot.

 

[OohPooPahDoo]

So....so much for background checks, gun registration, magazine limits, and licensing law abiding citizens...since they are the ones obeying gun laws it is pointless.....

However...these two thugs probably couldn't pass background checks, and aren't required to register guns because the supreme court says felons do not have to register illegal guns, and something tells me they would not obey magazine limit laws.....

Oh...and they had a rocket propelled grenade launcher.....and you know what....as probable felons....they can't have those either....

Rocket-launcher attack on Fla. police department thwarted - NY Daily News

Authorities say a plot to attack a central Florida police department with a rocket launcher has been foiled, just days before the onslaught was slated to go down.


Monday's planned attack on the Eustis Police Department was thwarted after the arrest of two men and discovery of more than 20 weapons, drugs and bullet proof vests in a shed, the Marion County Sheriff's Office said Monday.


Authorities credited Saturday's arrests to a tip about a rocket-propelled grenade launcher being stored inside a shed.


Capt. James Pogue said a search of that shed recovered 22 firearms, containers of black powder, more than a pound of marijuana, both powdered and crack cocaine, prescription pills, scales, two bulletproof vests and other drugs, the Orlando Sentinel reported.


Eustis Police Chief Fred Cobb was alerted to the plotted attack on Friday and described himself as "blindsided" by its news, MyNews13 reported.


The following day Christopher Conger, 32, and Jeremy Robertson, 29, were arrested and hit with a number of charges. Those include possession of cocaine with intent to sell, grand theft of a firearm, using or displaying a firearm during a felony and wearing a bulletproof vest during certain offenses.


So....no licensing required...these guys were caught with guns...lock them up....no background checks required, they were caught with illegal guns...lock them up....

See....the best gun control laws = lock up criminals who get caught with guns....

Then you don't have to bother law abiding citizens....but of course...that is who you actually want to bother isn't it......

How come all criminals don't use rocket propelled grenades? Seems like if gun control doesn't work, it shouldn't be hard at all for them to obtain one. Obviously they are impractical to carry around, but for the criminal who wants to protect his illegal business at home, seems like it would be standard issue if it were really easy to get.


BTW - did you know MURDER LAWS DO NOT WORK. People are murdered all the time. Seems like we should get rid of laws making murder a crime since the laws don't work.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Exactly, so you agree with me. The problem is that if a 'law abiding' person owns a gun, his/her way of breaking the law may be to shoot someone, either on purpose or to be so negligent that it is by accident. That makes it reasonable for the government to put lots of controls on who owns guns. It wouldn't be at all unreasonable to have the same restrictions on guns as we have on cars: a license to drive, the car is registered, if the car is sold, paperwork needs to be done and it needs to be registered with the government, etc.

Wow... that's a lot of nonsense packed into one small post.

You do know that I do not need a license to buy a car, own a car, keep it at my house, or drive it on private property, right?
You do know that i do not need to register a car to buy it, own it, keep it at my house or drive it on private property, right?

Of course you don't - you just want to treat all gun owners as if they are criminals.

 

[rightwinger]

Nations with higher gun ownership rates, however, do not have higher murder or suicide rates than those with lower gun ownership. Indeed many high gun ownership nations have much lower murder rates."
What total bullshit that is totally unsupported by data

Name a nation with a high gun ownership rate that has a lower murder rate than ours

Name a country that has a segment of their society that kills each at such an alarming rate.

When in doubt, blame the.....negroes

Oh there's no doubt.

Tell us more.....White gun owners are responsible....its them negroes

Are you blind? Look at our inner cities ya fucken idiot.

Or we could look at Waco last weekend or the massacres from white, middle class loners

 

[Brain357]

I know.......because registration ALWAYS leads to confiscation

well...Germany, Britain, Australia.....Canada.....see a trend.......? And it took Germany from the 1920s when registration was enacted to 1930s to ban weapons for Jews and other enemies of the nazi party....

How are their murder rates?

One fifth of ours?

Because their criminals choose not to use guns...but as we saw in France, Australia, Denmark, Belgium and Sweden, nothing stops them from getting guns when they want or need them and they have no gun stores for the general public and they have stricter gun control than we do.....

And if you include Government Murder...their murder rate is greater than ours...when their people were disarmed and helpless........

It is rare when one of their criminals use a gun

It is rare when one of ours does not

That is a matter of culture, not guns...as again, their criminals get guns easily when they want them......and our gun violence is mainly contained in small, multi block areas in cities...usually controlled by democrats....so our gun violence is not a national problem but a very local one for these inner city shooting galleries....

It is a matter of ownership. Criminals don't use guns if few victims have them.

 

[2aguy]

So....so much for background checks, gun registration, magazine limits, and licensing law abiding citizens...since they are the ones obeying gun laws it is pointless.....

However...these two thugs probably couldn't pass background checks, and aren't required to register guns because the supreme court says felons do not have to register illegal guns, and something tells me they would not obey magazine limit laws.....

Oh...and they had a rocket propelled grenade launcher.....and you know what....as probable felons....they can't have those either....

Rocket-launcher attack on Fla. police department thwarted - NY Daily News

Authorities say a plot to attack a central Florida police department with a rocket launcher has been foiled, just days before the onslaught was slated to go down.


Monday's planned attack on the Eustis Police Department was thwarted after the arrest of two men and discovery of more than 20 weapons, drugs and bullet proof vests in a shed, the Marion County Sheriff's Office said Monday.


Authorities credited Saturday's arrests to a tip about a rocket-propelled grenade launcher being stored inside a shed.


Capt. James Pogue said a search of that shed recovered 22 firearms, containers of black powder, more than a pound of marijuana, both powdered and crack cocaine, prescription pills, scales, two bulletproof vests and other drugs, the Orlando Sentinel reported.


Eustis Police Chief Fred Cobb was alerted to the plotted attack on Friday and described himself as "blindsided" by its news, MyNews13 reported.


The following day Christopher Conger, 32, and Jeremy Robertson, 29, were arrested and hit with a number of charges. Those include possession of cocaine with intent to sell, grand theft of a firearm, using or displaying a firearm during a felony and wearing a bulletproof vest during certain offenses.


So....no licensing required...these guys were caught with guns...lock them up....no background checks required, they were caught with illegal guns...lock them up....

See....the best gun control laws = lock up criminals who get caught with guns....

Then you don't have to bother law abiding citizens....but of course...that is who you actually want to bother isn't it......

How come all criminals don't use rocket propelled grenades? Seems like if gun control doesn't work, it shouldn't be hard at all for them to obtain one. Obviously they are impractical to carry around, but for the criminal who wants to protect his illegal business at home, seems like it would be standard issue if it were really easy to get.


BTW - did you know MURDER LAWS DO NOT WORK. People are murdered all the time. Seems like we should get rid of laws making murder a crime since the laws don't work.

Why are you anti gunners so dumb....murder laws are not there because they can prevent murder, they are there to deal with the people who actually commit murder...we catch them and lock them up..... So we aren't advocating for not having murder laws...moron.....

You guys want the laws to work like the "Pre Crime" laws from Minority Report......that Tom Cruise movie...where you create a stupid law and then it "prevents" murder, or illegal gun use, instead of just punishing people who break those laws....and it does not work....but you guys are to clueless...or too agenda driven to care....

Criminals use the guns they need or want....and rocket propelled grenages are hard to hide and hard to practice with when you can't let people know you are doing it....and they are unnecessary for most criminal business......

 

[2aguy]

well...Germany, Britain, Australia.....Canada.....see a trend.......? And it took Germany from the 1920s when registration was enacted to 1930s to ban weapons for Jews and other enemies of the nazi party....

How are their murder rates?

One fifth of ours?

Because their criminals choose not to use guns...but as we saw in France, Australia, Denmark, Belgium and Sweden, nothing stops them from getting guns when they want or need them and they have no gun stores for the general public and they have stricter gun control than we do.....

And if you include Government Murder...their murder rate is greater than ours...when their people were disarmed and helpless........

It is rare when one of their criminals use a gun

It is rare when one of ours does not

That is a matter of culture, not guns...as again, their criminals get guns easily when they want them......and our gun violence is mainly contained in small, multi block areas in cities...usually controlled by democrats....so our gun violence is not a national problem but a very local one for these inner city shooting galleries....

It is a matter of ownership. Criminals don't use guns if few victims have them.

And of course the victims just have to suffer...right....? They should just have to endure rape, beatings, stabbings, and killings with blades and blunt objects...because that way no one has to have a gun....except for police and military...and then you hope they aren't working with drug cartels like in Mexico......

And criminals still use guns...on each other....just like they do in France, a week after the attack on the cartoonists masked gunmen with fully automatic rifles shot up a Marseilles neighborhood over drugs, just hours before the prime minister was going to give a speech....

Dittos the shooting in Sweden.......

 

[2aguy]

Every citizen is law abiding until they break the law...

Exactly, so you agree with me. The problem is that if a 'law abiding' person owns a gun, his/her way of breaking the law may be to shoot someone, either on purpose or to be so negligent that it is by accident. That makes it reasonable for the government to put lots of controls on who owns guns. It wouldn't be at all unreasonable to have the same restrictions on guns as we have on cars: a license to drive, the car is registered, if the car is sold, paperwork needs to be done and it needs to be registered with the government, etc.

[/QUOTE]


Esmeralda....when the Berlin wall fell and the Stasi didn't need your services anymore....where did you find employment....with Putin....?

 

[Brain357]

How are their murder rates?

One fifth of ours?

Because their criminals choose not to use guns...but as we saw in France, Australia, Denmark, Belgium and Sweden, nothing stops them from getting guns when they want or need them and they have no gun stores for the general public and they have stricter gun control than we do.....

And if you include Government Murder...their murder rate is greater than ours...when their people were disarmed and helpless........

It is rare when one of their criminals use a gun

It is rare when one of ours does not

That is a matter of culture, not guns...as again, their criminals get guns easily when they want them......and our gun violence is mainly contained in small, multi block areas in cities...usually controlled by democrats....so our gun violence is not a national problem but a very local one for these inner city shooting galleries....

It is a matter of ownership. Criminals don't use guns if few victims have them.

And of course the victims just have to suffer...right....? They should just have to endure rape, beatings, stabbings, and killings with blades and blunt objects...because that way no one has to have a gun....except for police and military...and then you hope they aren't working with drug cartels like in Mexico......

And criminals still use guns...on each other....just like they do in France, a week after the attack on the cartoonists masked gunmen with fully automatic rifles shot up a Marseilles neighborhood over drugs, just hours before the prime minister was going to give a speech....

Dittos the shooting in Sweden.......

Well based on crime rates, having the most guns doesn't lower crime. We have by far the most guns, but far from the lowest crime rates.

 

[2aguy]

Because their criminals choose not to use guns...but as we saw in France, Australia, Denmark, Belgium and Sweden, nothing stops them from getting guns when they want or need them and they have no gun stores for the general public and they have stricter gun control than we do.....

And if you include Government Murder...their murder rate is greater than ours...when their people were disarmed and helpless........

It is rare when one of their criminals use a gun

It is rare when one of ours does not

That is a matter of culture, not guns...as again, their criminals get guns easily when they want them......and our gun violence is mainly contained in small, multi block areas in cities...usually controlled by democrats....so our gun violence is not a national problem but a very local one for these inner city shooting galleries....

It is a matter of ownership. Criminals don't use guns if few victims have them.

And of course the victims just have to suffer...right....? They should just have to endure rape, beatings, stabbings, and killings with blades and blunt objects...because that way no one has to have a gun....except for police and military...and then you hope they aren't working with drug cartels like in Mexico......

And criminals still use guns...on each other....just like they do in France, a week after the attack on the cartoonists masked gunmen with fully automatic rifles shot up a Marseilles neighborhood over drugs, just hours before the prime minister was going to give a speech....

Dittos the shooting in Sweden.......

Well based on crime rates, having the most guns doesn't lower crime. We have by far the most guns, but far from the lowest crime rates.

Actually, as you know our crime rates have gone down faster than Australias...and we didn't have to get rid of our guns......our crime rate is going down, not up, and our gun accident rate is going down, not up....so more guns in the hands of more law abiding Americans do not increase the crime rate, but may very well lower it...

 

[Brain357]

It is rare when one of their criminals use a gun

It is rare when one of ours does not

That is a matter of culture, not guns...as again, their criminals get guns easily when they want them......and our gun violence is mainly contained in small, multi block areas in cities...usually controlled by democrats....so our gun violence is not a national problem but a very local one for these inner city shooting galleries....

It is a matter of ownership. Criminals don't use guns if few victims have them.

And of course the victims just have to suffer...right....? They should just have to endure rape, beatings, stabbings, and killings with blades and blunt objects...because that way no one has to have a gun....except for police and military...and then you hope they aren't working with drug cartels like in Mexico......

And criminals still use guns...on each other....just like they do in France, a week after the attack on the cartoonists masked gunmen with fully automatic rifles shot up a Marseilles neighborhood over drugs, just hours before the prime minister was going to give a speech....

Dittos the shooting in Sweden.......

Well based on crime rates, having the most guns doesn't lower crime. We have by far the most guns, but far from the lowest crime rates.

Actually, as you know our crime rates have gone down faster than Australias...and we didn't have to get rid of our guns......our crime rate is going down, not up, and our gun accident rate is going down, not up....so more guns in the hands of more law abiding Americans do not increase the crime rate, but may very well lower it...

It doesn't effect crime rates.

Wi got concealed carry and violent crime went up, same with Chicago.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Actually, as you know our crime rates have gone down faster than Australias...and we didn't have to get rid of our guns......our crime rate is going down, not up, and our gun accident rate is going down, not up....so more guns in the hands of more law abiding Americans do not increase the crime rate, but may very well lower it...

Is Brain lying to you?
Color me shocked.

 

[2aguy]

That is a matter of culture, not guns...as again, their criminals get guns easily when they want them......and our gun violence is mainly contained in small, multi block areas in cities...usually controlled by democrats....so our gun violence is not a national problem but a very local one for these inner city shooting galleries....

It is a matter of ownership. Criminals don't use guns if few victims have them.

And of course the victims just have to suffer...right....? They should just have to endure rape, beatings, stabbings, and killings with blades and blunt objects...because that way no one has to have a gun....except for police and military...and then you hope they aren't working with drug cartels like in Mexico......

And criminals still use guns...on each other....just like they do in France, a week after the attack on the cartoonists masked gunmen with fully automatic rifles shot up a Marseilles neighborhood over drugs, just hours before the prime minister was going to give a speech....

Dittos the shooting in Sweden.......

Well based on crime rates, having the most guns doesn't lower crime. We have by far the most guns, but far from the lowest crime rates.

Actually, as you know our crime rates have gone down faster than Australias...and we didn't have to get rid of our guns......our crime rate is going down, not up, and our gun accident rate is going down, not up....so more guns in the hands of more law abiding Americans do not increase the crime rate, but may very well lower it...

It doesn't effect crime rates.

Wi got concealed carry and violent crime went up, same with Chicago.

Sorry...Chicago just got concealed carry and they are fighting it every step of the way........Wisconsin...dittos...and in both, the major gun murder places are the major cities, Milwaukee and Chicago.....and both refuse to hire more police and resist allowing people to carry guns for self defense....it takes about 5 years for the crime rate to go down....

 

[Brain357]

It is a matter of ownership. Criminals don't use guns if few victims have them.

And of course the victims just have to suffer...right....? They should just have to endure rape, beatings, stabbings, and killings with blades and blunt objects...because that way no one has to have a gun....except for police and military...and then you hope they aren't working with drug cartels like in Mexico......

And criminals still use guns...on each other....just like they do in France, a week after the attack on the cartoonists masked gunmen with fully automatic rifles shot up a Marseilles neighborhood over drugs, just hours before the prime minister was going to give a speech....

Dittos the shooting in Sweden.......

Well based on crime rates, having the most guns doesn't lower crime. We have by far the most guns, but far from the lowest crime rates.

Actually, as you know our crime rates have gone down faster than Australias...and we didn't have to get rid of our guns......our crime rate is going down, not up, and our gun accident rate is going down, not up....so more guns in the hands of more law abiding Americans do not increase the crime rate, but may very well lower it...

It doesn't effect crime rates.

Wi got concealed carry and violent crime went up, same with Chicago.

Sorry...Chicago just got concealed carry and they are fighting it every step of the way........Wisconsin...dittos...and in both, the major gun murder places are the major cities, Milwaukee and Chicago.....and both refuse to hire more police and resist allowing people to carry guns for self defense....it takes about 5 years for the crime rate to go down....

And both go against your false claim.