Guide To The Liberal Mind

[mudwhistle]

Speaking of which:

Democrats support unions and unions kick back donations to Democrats. Without unions Democrats couldn't compete with Republicans for campaign funds. Unions chase businesses put of states and even chase em out of the country. So Democrats not only attack businesses with taxes and massive regulations, but they also back the groups primarily responsible for job loss in America.

Why did unions push companies out of the USA?

In 1998 Ford had record profits and employees got record level profit sharing.

You righties like to blame unions for things the GOP and Corporations did to themselves on purpose. They were able to go bankrupt and renig on pensions, move jobs overseas, cut wages and benefits, lower wages, get tax breaks passed that normally we wouldn't give but we were in a "recession" and they said it would help job creation.

And now you guys want to blame Obama because wages are down. If Romney would Prez you'd be bragging about this recovery. Fuck you guys.

I know some guys that worked in Detroit. Making $45/hr to do something a Japanese company will only pay $20/hr to do to make a much better product.

Not much surprise when American companies discovered they couldn't compete.

Well here we see the one area of capitalism where a person can make too much money.

If you're in business you have to be able to produce something people not only want to buy but can afford.

 

[Boss]

Oooo scary, you got all serious and shit. No one wants to bring it down Mr. Big Bossman they just want to take the Psychopaths out of the equation. Do you think capitalism can work without undue exploitation or fraud? If it's that awesome then a return of some lost faith is nothing but a good thing. A lot of people have lost faith in capitalism because they did everything right and still failed. Shouting at people and calling them commies and infidels for noticing the warts and blemishes of your awesome economic religion is never going to restore anyone's faith.

I'm not calling anyone anything, just stating the facts with regard to the type of government you are advocating. We have very stringent laws against fraud and undue exploitation. Where you have no control over these things is in a Communist style government where things are centrally run by a ruling class. In that system, fraud and exploitation happens behind the curtain, you never see it.

A lot of people have lost faith in capitalism because they did everything right and still failed.

People often fail when practicing free market capitalism. Almost to a fault, every super-successful capitalist you can name, had some monumental failure along the way. The thing is, they kept on believing and didn't give up. They didn't allow failure to define them. Hey, if it were easy to be successful, every idiot would be a multi-billionaire capitalist. It's difficult, but it's possible in a free market, free enterprise capitalist system. It's impossible in a Communist Marxist Socialist system.

 

[Derideo_Te]

Utter nonsense since the FF did not espouse libertarian principles or set up the constitution to support them.

LMAO... Sure they did. What part of "secure the blessings of liberty" are you having trouble with?

That expression does not have a libertarian trademark. But thanks for admitting that the FF were not libertarians.

That expression is very much a libertarian trademark, how is it not? I didn't admit the FF were not libertarian. Many of their views are very much in line with libertarian philosophy. As I said, the closest thing today to what the majority of FF were is the libertarian wing of the Tea Party movement.

What the FF weren't is Communist Socialists and Marxists.

The FF were not libertarians because the term itself didn't even come into use until after the constitution was written. Your own perverted brand of "right-libertarianism" wasn't spawned up until the middle of the 20th century so it is utter hogwash at allege that the FF's were libertarians.

Originally liberatarians were socialists who became communists.

As usual you just throw you own ignorant feces around hoping that some of it will stick.

 

[occupied]

Oooo scary, you got all serious and shit. No one wants to bring it down Mr. Big Bossman they just want to take the Psychopaths out of the equation. Do you think capitalism can work without undue exploitation or fraud? If it's that awesome then a return of some lost faith is nothing but a good thing. A lot of people have lost faith in capitalism because they did everything right and still failed. Shouting at people and calling them commies and infidels for noticing the warts and blemishes of your awesome economic religion is never going to restore anyone's faith.

America never put a guarantee to succeed in the bill of rights. Communism sure doesn't.

Oooo scary, you got all serious and shit. No one wants to bring it down Mr. Big Bossman they just want to take the Psychopaths out of the equation. Do you think capitalism can work without undue exploitation or fraud? If it's that awesome then a return of some lost faith is nothing but a good thing. A lot of people have lost faith in capitalism because they did everything right and still failed. Shouting at people and calling them commies and infidels for noticing the warts and blemishes of your awesome economic religion is never going to restore anyone's faith.

I'm not calling anyone anything, just stating the facts with regard to the type of government you are advocating. We have very stringent laws against fraud and undue exploitation. Where you have no control over these things is in a Communist style government where things are centrally run by a ruling class. In that system, fraud and exploitation happens behind the curtain, you never see it.

A lot of people have lost faith in capitalism because they did everything right and still failed.

People often fail when practicing free market capitalism. Almost to a fault, every super-successful capitalist you can name, had some monumental failure along the way. The thing is, they kept on believing and didn't give up. They didn't allow failure to define them. Hey, if it were easy to be successful, every idiot would be a multi-billionaire capitalist. It's difficult, but it's possible in a free market, free enterprise capitalist system. It's impossible in a Communist Marxist Socialist system.

OK first, there is no one suggesting communism here unless wanting to vigorously punish white-collar crime therefore restoring some faith that the system will work as advertized is now considered communism too.

Second there are even more people who failed and never got back up and this glorious system has no use for them and will blindly grind them underfoot.

Last I would like to remind one and all that capitalism is not a system of government any more than socialism is and treating either as the only solution invites disaster. We need to just do what works and abandon this retarded dogmatic approach to economic matters because if capitalism works the way so many say then there would never be the need for any socialism.

 

[mudwhistle]

Oooo scary, you got all serious and shit. No one wants to bring it down Mr. Big Bossman they just want to take the Psychopaths out of the equation. Do you think capitalism can work without undue exploitation or fraud? If it's that awesome then a return of some lost faith is nothing but a good thing. A lot of people have lost faith in capitalism because they did everything right and still failed. Shouting at people and calling them commies and infidels for noticing the warts and blemishes of your awesome economic religion is never going to restore anyone's faith.

America never put a guarantee to succeed in the bill of rights. Communism sure doesn't.

Oooo scary, you got all serious and shit. No one wants to bring it down Mr. Big Bossman they just want to take the Psychopaths out of the equation. Do you think capitalism can work without undue exploitation or fraud? If it's that awesome then a return of some lost faith is nothing but a good thing. A lot of people have lost faith in capitalism because they did everything right and still failed. Shouting at people and calling them commies and infidels for noticing the warts and blemishes of your awesome economic religion is never going to restore anyone's faith.

I'm not calling anyone anything, just stating the facts with regard to the type of government you are advocating. We have very stringent laws against fraud and undue exploitation. Where you have no control over these things is in a Communist style government where things are centrally run by a ruling class. In that system, fraud and exploitation happens behind the curtain, you never see it.

A lot of people have lost faith in capitalism because they did everything right and still failed.

People often fail when practicing free market capitalism. Almost to a fault, every super-successful capitalist you can name, had some monumental failure along the way. The thing is, they kept on believing and didn't give up. They didn't allow failure to define them. Hey, if it were easy to be successful, every idiot would be a multi-billionaire capitalist. It's difficult, but it's possible in a free market, free enterprise capitalist system. It's impossible in a Communist Marxist Socialist system.

OK first, there is no one suggesting communism here unless wanting to vigorously punish white-collar crime therefore restoring some faith that the system will work as advertized is now considered communism too.

Second there are even more people who failed and never got back up and this glorious system has no use for them and will blindly grind them underfoot.

Last I would like to remind one and all that capitalism is not a system of government any more than socialism is and treating either as the only solution invites disaster. We need to just do what works and abandon this retarded dogmatic approach to economic matters because if capitalism works the way so many say then there would never be the need for any socialism.

Socialism is fine as long as it's limited. Problem is, the left always goes too far with it. I think what worked in the past has been sabotaged by Democrats. We'll never have the kind of social change in this country they promised. It'll never be like Germany for example. Too many criminals involved in the process.

 

[sealybobo]

Democrats support unions and unions kick back donations to Democrats. Without unions Democrats couldn't compete with Republicans for campaign funds. Unions chase businesses put of states and even chase em out of the country. So Democrats not only attack businesses with taxes and massive regulations, but they also back the groups primarily responsible for job loss in America.

The group most responsible for job loss is the heartless bunch known only as "the stockholders". Isn't capitalism great? You can demand a factory move to China and never even have to see the faces of the newly unemployed or feel your greed hurt someone.

That goes back to this penchant by liberals for attacking job creation at it's core. Profit is evil. Businesses are here only to provide jobs. Both of which are totally fallacious arguments by the left.

I don't get you? In 2008 Ford had record profits that year. Everyone was happy including the employees who all got record profit sharing.

It is you who hates it when the employees get their fair share.

You want to cry about what is fair. In the past the CEO made 50 times the average employee. Today he makes 350 times. At what point do we speak up and ask what about our share? Walmart has record profits and what do the employees get?

 

[rightwinger]

More concepts out of a Liberal Mind

1. Abolition of slavery
2. Womens rights
3. Civil rights
4. Environmental protection
5. Gay rights
6. Worker protection
7. Domestic violence laws
8. Universal Healthcare
9. Social Security

Liberals were against freeing slaves and granting equal rights to minorities. Their environmental protection is the excuse behind wealth redistribution. Social security likely won't be there for future generations. Obamacare sucks. The left believes they are the only ones who care about worker safety, women's rights and domestic violence. It's almost laughable. Liberal judges tend to be softer on crime.

More concepts out of a Liberal Mind

1. Abolition of slavery
2. Womens rights
3. Civil rights
4. Environmental protection
5. Gay rights
6. Worker protection
7. Domestic violence laws
8. Universal Healthcare
9. Social Security

Liberals were against freeing slaves and granting equal rights to minorities. Their environmental protection is the excuse behind wealth redistribution. Social security likely won't be there for future generations. Obamacare sucks. The left believes they are the only ones who care about worker safety, women's rights and domestic violence. It's almost laughable. Liberal judges tend to be softer on crime.

Somehow I suspect you are unable to differentiate between a liberal and a 19th century. Democrat

Let me guess? Home schooled?

Liberals today are nothing like during the founding of our country. The commies control libtards today. Rightwingtit, keep up the lies liar.

Who exactly is like an 18th century American?

 

[sealybobo]

Oooo scary, you got all serious and shit. No one wants to bring it down Mr. Big Bossman they just want to take the Psychopaths out of the equation. Do you think capitalism can work without undue exploitation or fraud? If it's that awesome then a return of some lost faith is nothing but a good thing. A lot of people have lost faith in capitalism because they did everything right and still failed. Shouting at people and calling them commies and infidels for noticing the warts and blemishes of your awesome economic religion is never going to restore anyone's faith.

America never put a guarantee to succeed in the bill of rights. Communism sure doesn't.

Your side rigged the rules. Its our government's job to undo what the mega rich have done through Bush and the GOP and the Supreme Court.

No wonder the GOP needed to steal 2000. They already planned on invading Iraq that's we know for sure and they wanted to appoint Alito and Roberts so they could pass Citizens United.

 

[AmericanFirst]

The framers of the Constitution created a government with tremendous powers compared to the governments they were replacing. The framers were of different political persuasions but they were intent on creating a stronger national government at the expense of the state governments. The framers template for government at that time was from the Age of Enlightenment, even as Jefferson had written it in the Declaration of Independence. Pure and simple liberalism.

You are patently incorrect. There were two main factions at the time of our founding. The Federalists and the Anti-federalists. We were governed by the Articles of Confederation which essentially wrested all power in state governments. Federalists argued there was a way to establish a Federal government with LIMITED powers they would specifically enumerate, enabling a stronger unity between the states... a "united" states. Anti-federalists were afraid of this, they believed any such configuration would eventually devolve into an all-powerful federal government rendering states powerless. The Federalists argued this was nonsense because you could enumerate powers and establish limitations through a constitution and Bill of Rights. The Federalists prevailed.

The idea of self-governing through a constitution which limited the power of federal government and endowed inalienable rights and freedoms to the people and states, was a liberal idea of the time. Not to be confused with modern liberalism, which is essentially repackaged Marxism.

I find it funny how libtards believe, falsely, that liberals founded this country. Most libtards today support socialism more than the American way of life.

 

[BluesLegend]

Oooo scary, you got all serious and shit. No one wants to bring it down Mr. Big Bossman they just want to take the Psychopaths out of the equation. Do you think capitalism can work without undue exploitation or fraud? If it's that awesome then a return of some lost faith is nothing but a good thing. A lot of people have lost faith in capitalism because they did everything right and still failed. Shouting at people and calling them commies and infidels for noticing the warts and blemishes of your awesome economic religion is never going to restore anyone's faith.

America never put a guarantee to succeed in the bill of rights. Communism sure doesn't.

Oooo scary, you got all serious and shit. No one wants to bring it down Mr. Big Bossman they just want to take the Psychopaths out of the equation. Do you think capitalism can work without undue exploitation or fraud? If it's that awesome then a return of some lost faith is nothing but a good thing. A lot of people have lost faith in capitalism because they did everything right and still failed. Shouting at people and calling them commies and infidels for noticing the warts and blemishes of your awesome economic religion is never going to restore anyone's faith.

I'm not calling anyone anything, just stating the facts with regard to the type of government you are advocating. We have very stringent laws against fraud and undue exploitation. Where you have no control over these things is in a Communist style government where things are centrally run by a ruling class. In that system, fraud and exploitation happens behind the curtain, you never see it.

A lot of people have lost faith in capitalism because they did everything right and still failed.

People often fail when practicing free market capitalism. Almost to a fault, every super-successful capitalist you can name, had some monumental failure along the way. The thing is, they kept on believing and didn't give up. They didn't allow failure to define them. Hey, if it were easy to be successful, every idiot would be a multi-billionaire capitalist. It's difficult, but it's possible in a free market, free enterprise capitalist system. It's impossible in a Communist Marxist Socialist system.

OK first, there is no one suggesting communism here unless wanting to vigorously punish white-collar crime therefore restoring some faith that the system will work as advertized is now considered communism too.

Second there are even more people who failed and never got back up and this glorious system has no use for them and will blindly grind them underfoot.

Last I would like to remind one and all that capitalism is not a system of government any more than socialism is and treating either as the only solution invites disaster. We need to just do what works and abandon this retarded dogmatic approach to economic matters because if capitalism works the way so many say then there would never be the need for any socialism.

Socialism is fine as long as it's limited. Problem is, the left always goes too far with it. I think what worked in the past has been sabotaged by Democrats. We'll never have the kind of social change in this country they promised. It'll never be like Germany for example. Too many criminals involved in the process.

The left LIES and until that changes there will be no compromise with the left, none. You cannot negotiate with the left because they have every intention of breaking whatever compromise is reached. Their strategy is death by a thousand cuts, they just keep coming back for more it never ends.

 

[rightwinger]

Liberals founded this nation

What were they thinking?

Oh yeah, then why didn't they make provisions for homosexuals to marry, for special programs to advantage blacks, for welfare for single mothers, for "liberals" to dig up dead people and allow them to vote, etc, all key liberal beliefs?

Liberals have to take things one thing at a time

At the time, Conservatives were having a hard enough time with that "All men are created equal" concept

 

[AmericanFirst]

Oooo scary, you got all serious and shit. No one wants to bring it down Mr. Big Bossman they just want to take the Psychopaths out of the equation. Do you think capitalism can work without undue exploitation or fraud? If it's that awesome then a return of some lost faith is nothing but a good thing. A lot of people have lost faith in capitalism because they did everything right and still failed. Shouting at people and calling them commies and infidels for noticing the warts and blemishes of your awesome economic religion is never going to restore anyone's faith.

America never put a guarantee to succeed in the bill of rights. Communism sure doesn't.

Your side rigged the rules. Its our government's job to undo what the mega rich have done through Bush and the GOP and the Supreme Court.

No wonder the GOP needed to steal 2000. They already planned on invading Iraq that's we know for sure and they wanted to appoint Alito and Roberts so they could pass Citizens United.

You are so wrong. Gore tried to steal the election in 2000 and failed, thank goodness. Libtarded logic at its best fails.

 

[sealybobo]

Speaking of which:

Democrats support unions and unions kick back donations to Democrats. Without unions Democrats couldn't compete with Republicans for campaign funds. Unions chase businesses put of states and even chase em out of the country. So Democrats not only attack businesses with taxes and massive regulations, but they also back the groups primarily responsible for job loss in America.

Why did unions push companies out of the USA?

In 1998 Ford had record profits and employees got record level profit sharing.

You righties like to blame unions for things the GOP and Corporations did to themselves on purpose. They were able to go bankrupt and renig on pensions, move jobs overseas, cut wages and benefits, lower wages, get tax breaks passed that normally we wouldn't give but we were in a "recession" and they said it would help job creation.

And now you guys want to blame Obama because wages are down. If Romney would Prez you'd be bragging about this recovery. Fuck you guys.

I know some guys that worked in Detroit. Making $45/hr to do something a Japanese company will only pay $20/hr to do to make a much better product.

Not much surprise when American companies discovered they couldn't compete.

Well here we see the one area of capitalism where a person can make too much money.

If you're in business you have to be able to produce something people not only want to buy but can afford.

How much cheaper are Mazda's and Toyota's compared to Ford & GM? Not much.

In fact, my dad and I save way more at Kroger & Meijers than we do at Walmart. Walmart is a rip off! Anyone who shops there is a god damn fool unless that's the only store near them of course. Like up north we shop at Walmart because they don't have Meijers or Krogers.

So buying from China hasn't helped the consumer at all. It has only helped the CEO and Shareholders.

Neither are the shitty wages they pay. You think their products would be real cheap considering how cheap they are.

 

[Boss]

The argument from the left is that big business has no moral compass and no sense of patriotism or duty to any country or market and the republicans gladly and without embarrassment let corporate people like that run our country for their own selfish ends.

Big business (capitalists) do not exist to exemplify patriotism, promote social values, or devote themselves to moral causes dreamed up by liberals. They exist to do one thing, make a profit. Now sometimes it helps in the effort to make profits to be patriotic or devote themselves to causes, and when this is the case, they often do so. But primarily, their mission is to make as much profit as possible.

You view this as "greed" but it isn't. It's just what capitalists do. What is "greed" is sitting on your liberal ass and expecting your government to confiscate wealth you didn't earn and give it to you.

 

[AmericanFirst]

Liberals founded this nation

What were they thinking?

Oh yeah, then why didn't they make provisions for homosexuals to marry, for special programs to advantage blacks, for welfare for single mothers, for "liberals" to dig up dead people and allow them to vote, etc, all key liberal beliefs?

Liberals have to take things one thing at a time

At the time, Conservatives were having a hard enough time with that "All men are created equal" concept

LIAR!!!!!

 

[sealybobo]

Oooo scary, you got all serious and shit. No one wants to bring it down Mr. Big Bossman they just want to take the Psychopaths out of the equation. Do you think capitalism can work without undue exploitation or fraud? If it's that awesome then a return of some lost faith is nothing but a good thing. A lot of people have lost faith in capitalism because they did everything right and still failed. Shouting at people and calling them commies and infidels for noticing the warts and blemishes of your awesome economic religion is never going to restore anyone's faith.

America never put a guarantee to succeed in the bill of rights. Communism sure doesn't.

Your side rigged the rules. Its our government's job to undo what the mega rich have done through Bush and the GOP and the Supreme Court.

No wonder the GOP needed to steal 2000. They already planned on invading Iraq that's we know for sure and they wanted to appoint Alito and Roberts so they could pass Citizens United.

You are so wrong. Gore tried to steal the election in 2000 and failed, thank goodness. Libtarded logic at its best fails.

And I bet global warming isn't man made, right?

 

[rightwinger]

More concepts coming out of the Liberal Mind..
1. The 40-hour work week.
2. Weekends
3. Vacations
4. Women’s Voting Rights
5. The Civil Rights Act of 1964
6. The right of people of all colors to use schools and facilities.
7. Public schools.
8. Child-labor laws.
9. The right to unionize
10. Health care benefits
11. National Parks
12. National Forests
13. Interstate Highway System
14. GI Bill
15. Labor Laws/Worker’s Rights
16. Marshall Plan
17. FDA
18. Direct election of Senators by the people.
19. Occupational Safety and Health Administration, Workplace safety laws
20. Social Security




8211 150 Achievements Of Liberalism That Conservatives Seek To Destroy

Oh please......Modern liberals could not even begin to conceptualize ANY of these things.
Your side gets ZERO credit for any item on this list....And do not insist. Because you'd be wrong

Conservatives STILL have a problem supporting these concepts

 

[rightwinger]

Liberals founded this nation

What were they thinking?

Oh yeah, then why didn't they make provisions for homosexuals to marry, for special programs to advantage blacks, for welfare for single mothers, for "liberals" to dig up dead people and allow them to vote, etc, all key liberal beliefs?

Liberals have to take things one thing at a time

At the time, Conservatives were having a hard enough time with that "All men are created equal" concept

LIAR!!!!!

Can you believe that conservatives actually fought against the concept of all men are created equal?

Liberals had to tar and feather them

 

[Boss]

How much cheaper are Mazda's and Toyota's compared to Ford & GM? Not much.

In fact, my dad and I save way more at Kroger & Meijers than we do at Walmart. Walmart is a rip off! Anyone who shops there is a god damn fool unless that's the only store near them of course. Like up north we shop at Walmart because they don't have Meijers or Krogers.

So buying from China hasn't helped the consumer at all. It has only helped the CEO and Shareholders.

Neither are the shitty wages they pay. You think their products would be real cheap considering how cheap they are.

I see you are as illiterate on trade as you are on science and history. Cheap products imported into the US all have trade tariffs applied. Those fees are paid to the government, so they are who gets all this windfall, not the CEO and shareholders.

They pay shitty wages in China because they have the form of government you want here.

 

[sealybobo]

How much cheaper are Mazda's and Toyota's compared to Ford & GM? Not much.

In fact, my dad and I save way more at Kroger & Meijers than we do at Walmart. Walmart is a rip off! Anyone who shops there is a god damn fool unless that's the only store near them of course. Like up north we shop at Walmart because they don't have Meijers or Krogers.

So buying from China hasn't helped the consumer at all. It has only helped the CEO and Shareholders.

Neither are the shitty wages they pay. You think their products would be real cheap considering how cheap they are.

I see you are as illiterate on trade as you are on science and history. Cheap products imported into the US all have trade tariffs applied. Those fees are paid to the government, so they are who gets all this windfall, not the CEO and shareholders.

They pay shitty wages in China because they have the form of government you want here.

But then again you believe in invisible men who talk to you.