Great Job Republicans! So much winning!

[Lewdog]

The problem is that the gop just wants to pass somthing just so they can say they passed somthing !

Improving healthcare is not their goal.

I am so glad that McConnell has to put his corrupt head back in his turtle shell... can't stand that guy. But I was seriously thinking that he would gut the whole thing..

If the Republicans could--they would. To rescind an entire law would take a 60 Senate vote because of the monstrosity of the bill.

No... they have been quoted as saying they just need the 50 and Pence's vote. In fact they are going to push THEIR bill through the House too without allowing the House to debate it or change it. They are somehow able to skip the reconciliation phase.

They only need 51 Senate votes on fiscal matters. Everything else needs 60.

You should be more up to date on your news if you are going to come to a message board and talk about it. They only need 50 votes in the Senate to pass it...

 

[Lewdog]

The problem is that the Republican party and its supporters think that everyone with an (R) after their name supports the exact same things and will ALL vote the same... this bill proves that's bupkiss. The Republican party is full of varying degrees of Conservatives, with some that support helping their constituents, to some that are very strict and do not want the federal government involved in health care whatsoever, and because of that, they can't come up with a bill that will satisfy them all to get their support to pass the bill, even with the nuclear option and the VP making the deciding vote.

Question: How many Senators did it take to pass Commie Care??

And you don't get it. At least the Republicans had a say in what went into Obamacare. Not a single Democrat has been a part of the process of creating Trumpcare. NONE. No hearings, and ZERO amendments proposed by Democrats. Obamacare had ONE HUNDRED HEARINGS and 161 Republican AMENDMENTS to it.

Do you understand the difference?

Do you understand that the Republicans wanted nothing to do with Commie Care? As for the measures they changed, they knew the disaster was likely going to pass, so they watered it down as much as they could. That doesn't mean they approved of it. It's why not one Republican voted for it.

They at least had a chance to take part in creating it... their votes were only a ceremonial thing. You just don't get it...

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

The problem is that the Republican party and its supporters think that everyone with an (R) after their name supports the exact same things and will ALL vote the same... this bill proves that's bupkiss. The Republican party is full of varying degrees of Conservatives, with some that support helping their constituents, to some that are very strict and do not want the federal government involved in health care whatsoever, and because of that, they can't come up with a bill that will satisfy them all to get their support to pass the bill, even with the nuclear option and the VP making the deciding vote.

Isn't it hilarious the GOP voted 60 times for repeal when they knew a repeal would never make it past the President's desk?

Remember that?

Now they have a President who promised to repeal ObamaCare literally on day one!

On day one!

So where's the repeal?

The rubes STILL have not caught on they have been massively hoaxed. Tremendously hoaxed. Sad.

Two things: First is they can't rescind the bill without 60 Senate votes. They can kill some of it, but not most. Secondly is that we have a slight leadership in the Senate, a strong leadership in Congress, and the White House. That does not mean we won the MSM. So their defense to the Republican bill is to lie about it saying it would remove everybody from Commie Care and they would totally be without insurance. The MSM and Democrats would promote that, so some Republicans (especially those up for reelection) would be hesitant to rescind it even if they could.

If the Democrats were smart (and they are not) they would challenge the Republicans to make them look bad. Get 10 Democrat Senators to say they would vote to totally get rid of Commie Care. When the Republicans back away, they would be able to make a hay day out of it and truthfully call Republicans liars.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

The problem is that the Republican party and its supporters think that everyone with an (R) after their name supports the exact same things and will ALL vote the same... this bill proves that's bupkiss. The Republican party is full of varying degrees of Conservatives, with some that support helping their constituents, to some that are very strict and do not want the federal government involved in health care whatsoever, and because of that, they can't come up with a bill that will satisfy them all to get their support to pass the bill, even with the nuclear option and the VP making the deciding vote.

Question: How many Senators did it take to pass Commie Care??

And you don't get it. At least the Republicans had a say in what went into Obamacare. Not a single Democrat has been a part of the process of creating Trumpcare. NONE. No hearings, and ZERO amendments proposed by Democrats. Obamacare had ONE HUNDRED HEARINGS and 161 Republican AMENDMENTS to it.

Do you understand the difference?

Do you understand that the Republicans wanted nothing to do with Commie Care? As for the measures they changed, they knew the disaster was likely going to pass, so they watered it down as much as they could. That doesn't mean they approved of it. It's why not one Republican voted for it.

They at least had a chance to take part in creating it... their votes were only a ceremonial thing. You just don't get it...

Oh, I get it just fine. The lie is that Republicans wanted to participate in creating the disaster. They didn't. Like I said, they only wanted to make it less damaging than what the libs proposed.

 

[Timmy]

The problem is that the Republican party and its supporters think that everyone with an (R) after their name supports the exact same things and will ALL vote the same... this bill proves that's bupkiss. The Republican party is full of varying degrees of Conservatives, with some that support helping their constituents, to some that are very strict and do not want the federal government involved in health care whatsoever, and because of that, they can't come up with a bill that will satisfy them all to get their support to pass the bill, even with the nuclear option and the VP making the deciding vote.

Question: How many Senators did it take to pass Commie Care??

And you don't get it. At least the Republicans had a say in what went into Obamacare. Not a single Democrat has been a part of the process of creating Trumpcare. NONE. No hearings, and ZERO amendments proposed by Democrats. Obamacare had ONE HUNDRED HEARINGS and 161 Republican AMENDMENTS to it.

Do you understand the difference?

Do you understand that the Republicans wanted nothing to do with Commie Care? As for the measures they changed, they knew the disaster was likely going to pass, so they watered it down as much as they could. That doesn't mean they approved of it. It's why not one Republican voted for it.

Yeah nothing to do! Then repeal!

 

[radical right]

Is it a victory for lefties when the GOP majority fails to pass much in six months due to democrat obstructionists while democrats lost almost every important election in the last eight years including 4 special elections after Trump was elected? Strange rationale.

Republicans know how to run for election, they know how to win elections, but where they fail is in actually governing. You're like an allstar team that can't play as a team.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

The problem is that the gop just wants to pass somthing just so they can say they passed somthing !

Improving healthcare is not their goal.

I am so glad that McConnell has to put his corrupt head back in his turtle shell... can't stand that guy. But I was seriously thinking that he would gut the whole thing..

If the Republicans could--they would. To rescind an entire law would take a 60 Senate vote because of the monstrosity of the bill.

No... they have been quoted as saying they just need the 50 and Pence's vote. In fact they are going to push THEIR bill through the House too without allowing the House to debate it or change it. They are somehow able to skip the reconciliation phase.

They only need 51 Senate votes on fiscal matters. Everything else needs 60.

You should be more up to date on your news if you are going to come to a message board and talk about it. They only need 50 votes in the Senate to pass it...

I'm talking about totally removing Commie Care.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

The problem is that the Republican party and its supporters think that everyone with an (R) after their name supports the exact same things and will ALL vote the same... this bill proves that's bupkiss. The Republican party is full of varying degrees of Conservatives, with some that support helping their constituents, to some that are very strict and do not want the federal government involved in health care whatsoever, and because of that, they can't come up with a bill that will satisfy them all to get their support to pass the bill, even with the nuclear option and the VP making the deciding vote.

Question: How many Senators did it take to pass Commie Care??

And you don't get it. At least the Republicans had a say in what went into Obamacare. Not a single Democrat has been a part of the process of creating Trumpcare. NONE. No hearings, and ZERO amendments proposed by Democrats. Obamacare had ONE HUNDRED HEARINGS and 161 Republican AMENDMENTS to it.

Do you understand the difference?

Do you understand that the Republicans wanted nothing to do with Commie Care? As for the measures they changed, they knew the disaster was likely going to pass, so they watered it down as much as they could. That doesn't mean they approved of it. It's why not one Republican voted for it.

Yeah nothing to do! Then repeal!

Repeal what?

 

[g5000]

The problem is that the Republican party and its supporters think that everyone with an (R) after their name supports the exact same things and will ALL vote the same... this bill proves that's bupkiss. The Republican party is full of varying degrees of Conservatives, with some that support helping their constituents, to some that are very strict and do not want the federal government involved in health care whatsoever, and because of that, they can't come up with a bill that will satisfy them all to get their support to pass the bill, even with the nuclear option and the VP making the deciding vote.

Isn't it hilarious the GOP voted 60 times for repeal when they knew a repeal would never make it past the President's desk?

Remember that?

Now they have a President who promised to repeal ObamaCare literally on day one!

On day one!

So where's the repeal?

The rubes STILL have not caught on they have been massively hoaxed. Tremendously hoaxed. Sad.

Two things: First is they can't rescind the bill without 60 Senate votes. They can kill some of it, but not most. Secondly is that we have a slight leadership in the Senate, a strong leadership in Congress, and the White House. That does not mean we won the MSM. So their defense to the Republican bill is to lie about it saying it would remove everybody from Commie Care and they would totally be without insurance. The MSM and Democrats would promote that, so some Republicans (especially those up for reelection) would be hesitant to rescind it even if they could.

If the Democrats were smart (and they are not) they would challenge the Republicans to make them look bad. Get 10 Democrat Senators to say they would vote to totally get rid of Commie Care. When the Republicans back away, they would be able to make a hay day out of it and truthfully call Republicans liars.

The 60 repeals were theater for the rubes.

And Trump has already lied about the House bill: Link

“Make no mistake,” the president said at one point, “this is a repeal and a replace of Obamacare, make no mistake about it. Make no mistake.”

The actual fact is that neither the House nor Senate bills repeal ObamaCare.

 

[IsaacNewton]

Republicans continue their win streak by once again failing to pass anything. They are on a roll!

Total control...7 years of saying we can do better and nothing. A big fat nothing. Not even Republicans will support it.

And now that they've not allowed any dems in the discussion and it failed miserably to pass the Republican controlled...everything. now they'll go back to what they always do...blame someone else for the failure AND say that the bill was super awesome...too awesome to vote for!!

Here's what you bought...a big ZONK!

They're certainly whistling past the graveyard as the light on the neon sign flickers 2018.....2018....

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

The problem is that the Republican party and its supporters think that everyone with an (R) after their name supports the exact same things and will ALL vote the same... this bill proves that's bupkiss. The Republican party is full of varying degrees of Conservatives, with some that support helping their constituents, to some that are very strict and do not want the federal government involved in health care whatsoever, and because of that, they can't come up with a bill that will satisfy them all to get their support to pass the bill, even with the nuclear option and the VP making the deciding vote.

Isn't it hilarious the GOP voted 60 times for repeal when they knew a repeal would never make it past the President's desk?

Remember that?

Now they have a President who promised to repeal ObamaCare literally on day one!

On day one!

So where's the repeal?

The rubes STILL have not caught on they have been massively hoaxed. Tremendously hoaxed. Sad.

Two things: First is they can't rescind the bill without 60 Senate votes. They can kill some of it, but not most. Secondly is that we have a slight leadership in the Senate, a strong leadership in Congress, and the White House. That does not mean we won the MSM. So their defense to the Republican bill is to lie about it saying it would remove everybody from Commie Care and they would totally be without insurance. The MSM and Democrats would promote that, so some Republicans (especially those up for reelection) would be hesitant to rescind it even if they could.

If the Democrats were smart (and they are not) they would challenge the Republicans to make them look bad. Get 10 Democrat Senators to say they would vote to totally get rid of Commie Care. When the Republicans back away, they would be able to make a hay day out of it and truthfully call Republicans liars.

The 60 repeals were theater for the rubes.

And Trump has already lied about the House bill: Link

“Make no mistake,” the president said at one point, “this is a repeal and a replace of Obamacare, make no mistake about it. Make no mistake.”

The actual fact is that neither the House nor Senate bills repeal ObamaCare.

Correct, because they can't. They can only vote on fiscal matters with a 51 Senate vote.

 

[Lewdog]

The problem is that the Republican party and its supporters think that everyone with an (R) after their name supports the exact same things and will ALL vote the same... this bill proves that's bupkiss. The Republican party is full of varying degrees of Conservatives, with some that support helping their constituents, to some that are very strict and do not want the federal government involved in health care whatsoever, and because of that, they can't come up with a bill that will satisfy them all to get their support to pass the bill, even with the nuclear option and the VP making the deciding vote.

Isn't it hilarious the GOP voted 60 times for repeal when they knew a repeal would never make it past the President's desk?

Remember that?

Now they have a President who promised to repeal ObamaCare literally on day one!

On day one!

So where's the repeal?

The rubes STILL have not caught on they have been massively hoaxed. Tremendously hoaxed. Sad.

Two things: First is they can't rescind the bill without 60 Senate votes. They can kill some of it, but not most. Secondly is that we have a slight leadership in the Senate, a strong leadership in Congress, and the White House. That does not mean we won the MSM. So their defense to the Republican bill is to lie about it saying it would remove everybody from Commie Care and they would totally be without insurance. The MSM and Democrats would promote that, so some Republicans (especially those up for reelection) would be hesitant to rescind it even if they could.

If the Democrats were smart (and they are not) they would challenge the Republicans to make them look bad. Get 10 Democrat Senators to say they would vote to totally get rid of Commie Care. When the Republicans back away, they would be able to make a hay day out of it and truthfully call Republicans liars.

The 60 repeals were theater for the rubes.

And Trump has already lied about the House bill: Link

“Make no mistake,” the president said at one point, “this is a repeal and a replace of Obamacare, make no mistake about it. Make no mistake.”

The actual fact is that neither the House nor Senate bills repeal ObamaCare.

Correct, because they can't. They can only vote on fiscal matters with a 51 Senate vote.

You are not paying attention to the news. Go read some more news then come back.

 

[Lewdog]

The problem is that the Republican party and its supporters think that everyone with an (R) after their name supports the exact same things and will ALL vote the same... this bill proves that's bupkiss. The Republican party is full of varying degrees of Conservatives, with some that support helping their constituents, to some that are very strict and do not want the federal government involved in health care whatsoever, and because of that, they can't come up with a bill that will satisfy them all to get their support to pass the bill, even with the nuclear option and the VP making the deciding vote.

Isn't it hilarious the GOP voted 60 times for repeal when they knew a repeal would never make it past the President's desk?

Remember that?

Now they have a President who promised to repeal ObamaCare literally on day one!

On day one!

So where's the repeal?

The rubes STILL have not caught on they have been massively hoaxed. Tremendously hoaxed. Sad.

Two things: First is they can't rescind the bill without 60 Senate votes. They can kill some of it, but not most. Secondly is that we have a slight leadership in the Senate, a strong leadership in Congress, and the White House. That does not mean we won the MSM. So their defense to the Republican bill is to lie about it saying it would remove everybody from Commie Care and they would totally be without insurance. The MSM and Democrats would promote that, so some Republicans (especially those up for reelection) would be hesitant to rescind it even if they could.

If the Democrats were smart (and they are not) they would challenge the Republicans to make them look bad. Get 10 Democrat Senators to say they would vote to totally get rid of Commie Care. When the Republicans back away, they would be able to make a hay day out of it and truthfully call Republicans liars.

The 60 repeals were theater for the rubes.

And Trump has already lied about the House bill: Link

“Make no mistake,” the president said at one point, “this is a repeal and a replace of Obamacare, make no mistake about it. Make no mistake.”

The actual fact is that neither the House nor Senate bills repeal ObamaCare.

Correct, because they can't. They can only vote on fiscal matters with a 51 Senate vote.

Here is a video just for Ray. A video where a Congressman finds out on live tv that he is going to be forced to vote on the Senate's new healtcare bill without having a say in it.

GOP Rep. Finds Out He'll Have to Vote On Senate Bill

 

[Lewdog]

Ray From Cleveland

"McConnell, whose party has a razor-thin majority in the 100-member Senate, told reporters that Republican leaders would work through the week to win over the 50 senators needed to pass the bill, with a vote planned in the weeks following the recess. Vice President Mike Pence could provide the crucial vote needed to break a tie."

Facing revolt on healthcare bill, U.S. Senate Republicans delay vote


You were saying about those 60 votes?

 

[Luddly Neddite]

Incredible is that every damn week, LyinRyan would be on camera again, telling the same lie - that they have something SO much better.

Eight years, and they fell flat on their collective faces.


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[Luddly Neddite]

I'm on record in other thread. Go Govt payer. Finish it. There is no easy answer. Again, as long as left-wing wacko judges demand heart transplants, sex-changes, Free E-room for poor- criminals- illegals?

How do you pay for that? What sane country demands life-saving surgery for death row inmates? Lets Mexico send over the sickest in a taxicab to ER? the demoncrats, thats' who. 30 years of it. Want a bigger dick? No money? No problem. Wait till they add free dental.....oh they already did.

Old Yeller

I know this doesn't matter to you but most of your post is BS.

And my bet is you have no clue about what's true or how it got that way.

Sorry but you're wrong that Democrats passed any legislation to treat undocumented, criminal, etc. Ronnie RayGun started EMTALA. It's not free and it's NOT treatment in the way you apparently believe it is. But yes, all can get emergent treatment but are then told to see their regular doctor.

Mexico does not "send" people here for treatment. However, many Americans go to Mexico for medical treatment. Used to be, elderly Americans would car pool to the pharmacy on Calle Obregon in Nogales, Mexico (go ahead, look it up. It's a really nice, modern pharmacy) to have their scrips filled.

Yes, I know it's fact because I used to go there to buy the drug Nizerole (ketoconazole) to treat dogs with Valley fever. It's prescribed by weight and,mor a large dog, it can run hundreds PER DAY.

Big Pharma and the GOP ended that and many elderly and poor had no choice but to stop medications and many died. Now, the fucking GOP wants to kill even more elderly as well as babies, children, vets,handicapped and RWNJs are thrilled about it.

ObamaCares does not allow undocumented to purchase insurance but they can still get emergent care because of Reagan's Socialist EMTALA. Poor RWNJ cupcakes aren't nearly so thrilled about that.

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[Chuz Life]

We've had a big zonk for the last 17 years. Where have you been hiding out?

Aww, look at you trying the old crab in a barrel technique. "Uhh, this is a zonk?...well, Everything is!! Woe is life"

Good job on at least admitting Republicans sold you a bag of shit and told you it was chocolate pudding!

I have no problem admitting the R's are worthless.

I know, with the caveat that if they are worthless then so is EVERYONE AND EVERYTHING. Classy stuff

Well, no. Both parties really are worthless. Look at the endless wars, horrible policies, lies by both parties since 2000. Im not assigning degrees of relevance to either.

Add to that their joint spending and 20 plus TRILLION dollar debt.

 

[ClosedCaption]

Is it a victory for lefties when the GOP majority fails to pass much in six months due to democrat obstructionists while democrats lost almost every important election in the last eight years including 4 special elections after Trump was elected? Strange rationale.

What did I tell you? Yes, the dems who have no power to stop anything is stopping everything! And the Repubs are so weak they can't overcome the powerless!

Great message!

 

[Vandalshandle]

How many lies has trump told about health care?

Health care promises made by candidate Trump - CNN Video

 

[ClosedCaption]

Republicans continue their win streak by once again failing to pass anything. They are on a roll!

Total control...7 years of saying we can do better and nothing. A big fat nothing. Not even Republicans will support it.

And now that they've not allowed any dems in the discussion and it failed miserably to pass the Republican controlled...everything. now they'll go back to what they always do...blame someone else for the failure AND say that the bill was super awesome...too awesome to vote for!!

Here's what you bought...a big ZONK!

Many times it's better when the government does exactly that: nothing.

Look at what happened the eight years before Trump. Record debt--double since DumBama took over, millions more government dependents, household income barely up from the eight years before, and it took eight years to accomplish that.

And the sun causes cancer! Flowers cause allergies. Puppies pee on things and Rainbows don't have gold. Everything sucks! Waah waah!