"GOP, the elite's Party"

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    "It's the Stupidity, Stupid!" by Solomon Hakim

    "The elite, the most powerful, influential, and wealthy individuals among us, have essentially succeeded in creating the most important element in sustaining their perpetual control: eternally loyal, anti-thinking, slave-followers, fundamentally hostile to any kind of meaningful thought, perhaps as much as eighty percent of the world's population. For the purposes of keeping this article short enough for publication, my comments here are limited to Americans.

    That half of you Americans are considering voting for a ticket whose VP candidate supports creationism, in this 2008, who opposes abortions even in the case of rape or incest, and who has literally boasted of her foreign experience primarily because Russia shares a border with her state, simply boggles the mind. Yes, let's forget Reason, forget common sense, forget science, forget critical thought which without progression, technology, modern civilization, wouldn't exist, and let's vote for a creationist! And a female one to boot! Your cant is beyond frightening. If Hockey Mom's values are that precious to your hearts, or if it's her gender that blows your whistle that much, why do you even bother, for example, going to the doctor when your kid is sick? Just go to church or a feminist group meeting instead! You stupid seventy million plus neurologically diseased Baptist Americans! Even God Himself would struggle to make you see! Didn't Jesus profess that truth is better than untruth? How is it that you care so little about wisdom, about truth, about humaneness, about the most meaningful values there can be in this life? Is it because you are simply awaiting, as your Holy Bible describes, the next one? Do us agnostics a favor and take the trip already!"

    It's the Stupidity, Stupid! | CommonDreams.org
     
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    An article written by someone who wreaks of elitism complaining about elitists.....interesting to say the least.
     
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    It cracks me up that now the word elite has become an insult.

    You people are fucking sheep.
     
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    It cracks me up that people on the left have become so intellectually dishonest that they will pretend a word like elitism is being used to discuss elite individuals...when anyone with half a functioning brain understands the difference.

    I assume you have half a functioning brain, editec and midcan...so therefore I have to assume that you are acting as partisan hacks in this particular incident.

    Everyone understands that being elite in something is a good thing. We all want, as your talking points have been saying ad nauseum...an elite surgeon, an elite mechanic, an elite politician.

    What we do not want...is someone who is NOT elite...but who pretends that they are and pretends that because they possess some intangible qualities that the rest of us do not---that they are better than us...and therefore know better than we do, how to make decisions for this nation.
    THAT is elitist.

    No one wants a so-so mechanic who claims to be the best. Thats even WORSE than a so-so mechanic who is up front about not being the best. The ELITIST mechanic will charge you just as much as an ELITE mechanic...but will only deliver so-so service.

    That is the way that word is being used. No one is claming that Obama is an elite politician and that that is somehow a bad thing. What they ARE claiming is that Barak Obama THINKS he is better than the rest of us, and feels that he knows better than anyone else how to make important decisions regarding our nation based on some intangible qualities that he alone posesses.

    Now...you can agree or disagree with whether or not Obama is elitist...that actually isn't the issue.

    But PLEASE, grow up and stop using bullshit talking points about people being "afraid of the elite." That isn't what people are saying...that isn't the way the term "elitism" is being used....and you just look like a parrot for the left when you come in here screeching about it in such a juvenille manor.
     
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    I've made that argument a hundred times. Now I just scream YOU FUCKING IDIOT THE ELITES AND ELITISTS ARE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS.

    Dictionary.com
    "Elitism".

    But apparently they never bother to look it up.
    Because ultimately, they don't care that they're spewing idiotic crap that doesn't even make sense.
     
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    The problem is...it would be one thing if it were a genuine misunderstanding...if those on the left genuinely believed that what people were complaining about was truly that they did not want to be led by "the elite."

    But everyone knows that this isn't what is being discussed...and those on the left, like Bill Maher and so many like him (even those on this board) are simply parroting a ridiculous talking point because its kinda funny and makes them feel good about themselves because they are basically calling their opposition stupid...which they love to do. It isn't that people can have a difference in opinion about what might be the best way to run this nation...its that those who disagree are bitter, gun-hugging, god-fearing idiots who don't want a member of the "elite" in the White House.

    Its so dishonest...and so ridiculously harmful to intelligent discourse that it would be scary if it wasn't so sad.
     
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    elite is a very good adjective if it is used to describe something useful. Putting such a good word as "elite" in front of "politician" is a horrible use of such a wonderful adjective.
     
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    Its not the left that is conflating them when going to Harvard Law School is suddenly a "sign of elitism". Going to HLS is a sign that your pretty fucking smart, not of "elitism".

    Except that when people call Obama elite, thats not the evidence they give.

    Except the "evidence" for these things is the evidence one would give that someone is actually elite. That is, very successful, went to extremely difficult schools, etc, etc.

    Actually, it IS what people are saying, unfortunately. That they are saying it is fucking ridiculous, as you point out, but thats the statement.
     

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