GOP lawmaker: Virtually impossible to get AIDS through heterosexual sex

[Charles_Main]

Easy to be confused on this issue, but not far from the truth:

AIDS Rate 50 Times Higher in Homosexual Men: Center for Disease Control

http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/archive/ldn/2009/aug/09082609

I am sure Libs will tell you that is Right wing Junk Science.

 

[Charles_Main]

Most Aids victims are homosexual, but to say that it's virtually impossible for a heterosexual is a lie.

WTF is wrong with these people?

To say that most AIDS victims are gay is a lie.


Getting it Straight: HIV as a Gay Disease Is a Myth That Refuses to Die

I guess the CDC is full of shit and your source is Golden.

 

[bripat9643]

Most Aids victims are homosexual, but to say that it's virtually impossible for a heterosexual is a lie.

WTF is wrong with these people?

To say that most AIDS victims are gay is a lie.


Getting it Straight: HIV as a Gay Disease Is a Myth That Refuses to Die

New cases fall into two categories, almost exclusively: Gay men and IV drug users. There are also a few tertiary cases of women who are the partners of these primary cases. But in no case are there tertiary cases of men who are the partners of women with HIV. hemophiliacs used to get it before they developed genetically engineered bacteria to produce the clotting factor.

 

[SniperFire]

Most Aids victims are homosexual, but to say that it's virtually impossible for a heterosexual is a lie.

WTF is wrong with these people?

To say that most AIDS victims are gay is a lie.


Getting it Straight: HIV as a Gay Disease Is a Myth That Refuses to Die

Give it up.

'Gay-Activist Group: ‘AIDS is a Gay Disease’

Ad campaign runs counter to usual messaging.

In a surprising reversal to the usual gay-activist messaging, the L.A. Gay & Lesbian Center has launched a campaign proclaiming “AIDS is a gay disease. Own it. End it.”

 

[Avatar4321]

Most Aids victims are homosexual, but to say that it's virtually impossible for a heterosexual is a lie.

WTF is wrong with these people?

To say that most AIDS victims are gay is a lie.


Getting it Straight: HIV as a Gay Disease Is a Myth That Refuses to Die

I guess the CDC is full of shit and your source is Golden.

The CDC? What do they know about disease?

 

[Avatar4321]

Most Aids victims are homosexual, but to say that it's virtually impossible for a heterosexual is a lie.

WTF is wrong with these people?

To say that most AIDS victims are gay is a lie.


Getting it Straight: HIV as a Gay Disease Is a Myth That Refuses to Die

Give it up.

'Gay-Activist Group: ‘AIDS is a Gay Disease’

Ad campaign runs counter to usual messaging.

In a surprising reversal to the usual gay-activist messaging, the L.A. Gay & Lesbian Center has launched a campaign proclaiming “AIDS is a gay disease. Own it. End it.”

That would require being honest with oneself. That's difficult in our current society.

 

[Old Rocks]

Most Aids victims are homosexual, but to say that it's virtually impossible for a heterosexual is a lie.

WTF is wrong with these people?

Nope, it's not a lie. The odds of getting hit by a meteorite are greater than for a man to contract HIV through normal heterosexual sex.

Pattycake, you are one fucked up liar.

Heterosexuals and HIV

How HIV is Increasing Among Heterosexuals
It is a myth that AIDS is a gay disease. The fact is, 32% of Americans who were diagnosed with HIV/AIDS in 2007 were heterosexual. (See chart.)

HIV does not discriminate. Anyone can get it if he or she is not careful. You have probably heard many times about the importance of using condoms and practicing safe sex. Here is another reminder, and some tips about communicating openly with your sex partners.

 

[Conservative]

Most Aids victims are homosexual, but to say that it's virtually impossible for a heterosexual is a lie.

WTF is wrong with these people?

To say that most AIDS victims are gay is a lie.


Getting it Straight: HIV as a Gay Disease Is a Myth That Refuses to Die

Homosexuality and AIDS - Conservapedia

"Gay, bisexual, and other men who have sex with men (MSM) represent approximately 2% of the US population, yet are the population most severely affected by HIV and are the only risk group in which new HIV infections have been increasing steadily since the early 1990s. In 2006, MSM accounted for more than half (53%) of all new HIV infections in the United States..."[2] In August of 2009, LifeSiteNews reported: "An official with the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) announced the CDC's estimate Monday that in the United States AIDS is fifty times more prevalent among men who have sex with men ('MSM') than the rest of the population."[3] Of newly diagnosed HIV infections in the United States during the year 2003, the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) estimated that about 63% were among men who were infected through sexual contact with other men.[4]

reference citations are on the linked page

Oh, and your source is dated 1999.

 

[SniperFire]

Most Aids victims are homosexual, but to say that it's virtually impossible for a heterosexual is a lie.

WTF is wrong with these people?

Nope, it's not a lie. The odds of getting hit by a meteorite are greater than for a man to contract HIV through normal heterosexual sex.

Pattycake, you are one fucked up liar.

Heterosexuals and HIV

How HIV is Increasing Among Heterosexuals
It is a myth that AIDS is a gay disease. The fact is, 32% of Americans who were diagnosed with HIV/AIDS in 2007 were heterosexual. (See chart.)

HIV does not discriminate. Anyone can get it if he or she is not careful. You have probably heard many times about the importance of using condoms and practicing safe sex. Here is another reminder, and some tips about communicating openly with your sex partners.

You are telling us that a tiny percent of the population - the Rump Rangers - are the vast majority of the AIDS infections.

As was said, AIDS is indeed a Gay Disease. Thanks for supporting the facts!

 

[Conservative]

Most Aids victims are homosexual, but to say that it's virtually impossible for a heterosexual is a lie.

WTF is wrong with these people?

Nope, it's not a lie. The odds of getting hit by a meteorite are greater than for a man to contract HIV through normal heterosexual sex.

Pattycake, you are one fucked up liar.

Heterosexuals and HIV

How HIV is Increasing Among Heterosexuals
It is a myth that AIDS is a gay disease. The fact is, 32% of Americans who were diagnosed with HIV/AIDS in 2007 were heterosexual. (See chart.)

HIV does not discriminate. Anyone can get it if he or she is not careful. You have probably heard many times about the importance of using condoms and practicing safe sex. Here is another reminder, and some tips about communicating openly with your sex partners.

that means 68% were NOT heterosexual males.

 

[Annie]

Bump. Short time, but lots of 'mines bigger than yours' posts

George Bush knew better. Check out both what he gave for AIDS and Elton John's tribute:

Elton John: George W. Bush taught me a lesson | Power Players - Yahoo! News

Spinners and Winners

Rock 'n Roll Hall of Famer Elton John once called President George W. Bush "the worst thing that ever happened to America." But in an interview with ABC News/Yahoo! Power Players series, Sir Elton offers a different description of Bush: The U.S. President who has done most to fight AIDS.

Asked directly what President has done more than any other to combat AIDS, John answered without hesitation: "George Bush."

Elton John, who has been a leading activist on AIDS issues since the 1980s, gives President Bush credit for launching the President's Emergency Plan for AIDS Relief (PEPFAR) a $15 billion program Bush signed into law in 2004 to provide treatment and prevention for millions of HIV-infected people in Africa.

Prior to that, John had been among President Bush's harshest and most acerbic critics.

"I wasn't a big fan of his policies," John said. "I was very against the Iraq war. So, you know, his policies didn't sit well with mine."

But not long after Bush launched his anti-AIDS effort, Elton John had a chance to meet him in person. The occasion was the 2004 Kennedy Center Honors.

"At the Kennedy Center concert we spent some time in the intermission with the President, George Bush, and he was an amazingly informed about AIDS," John recounted. "He treated us with such kindness. I had so much respect for him, especially when the PEPFAR thing was announced when he gave 15 billion dollars to AIDS. He knew what he was talking about."

Politics aside, personal interaction caused John to change his view of Bush.

"One of the old adages in life is never judge someone until you meet them," John said. "I didn't like his policies but I have to say when I met him, I found him charming, I found him well informed and I found him determined to do something about the AIDS situation so I changed my opinion of him. And his wife was astonishingly kind to us well. So it was -- I learned a lesson."

Less surprisingly, Elton John gives President Obama high marks too and says he's doing "a great job."

"I have never met President Obama, but he revoked the law that you couldn't get into America if you were HIV positive," John said. "Don't Ask, Don't Tell- out the window. Gay marriage, in favor of- endorsed it. He's breaking down the barriers so much and people like Jay-Z came out and endorsed gay marriage and decriminalization. He's a huge hero in the African-American culture."

Sir Elton John has made fighting AIDS -- the disease, the stigmatization of it, finding a cure for it -- one of his most passionate endeavors. But it wasn't always a driving force in his life, which he readily admits in a new book: Love Is the Cure. Everything changed in the late 1980s, when he met Ryan White, the teenage boy who became a symbol of the struggle against AIDS when he was expelled from his middle school after contracting AIDS from a blood transfusion.

"He was a friend, he was an inspiration," said John, "It's because of him, his mother Jeanie who's here today, and Andrea his sister, that I changed. They changed the way I thought about my life, and it was their influence on me that got me to change the way I lived, to look at my life and look at how awful I was, how selfish I was."

The singer and activist was in Washington, D.C. Monday for the AIDS conference, and to view for the first time ever the AIDS Memorial Quilt project.

ABC News' Sarah Burke contributed to this report.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGfsQjD1wqg]Elton John: George W. Bush Taught Me A Lesson - YouTube[/ame]

 

[Misty]

We have teachers feeding their sperm to kids on cookies

We have way bigger problems in the PS system.

 

[AmyNation]

I think, suggesting aids is a "gay thing" or even a druggie thing, is dangerous. A heterosexual can contract aids just as easily, and in other parts of the world they do.

I'm wondering if we have become lax with this issue, and is that a factor as to why Aids is on the rise here again?

 

[bripat9643]

Most Aids victims are homosexual, but to say that it's virtually impossible for a heterosexual is a lie.

WTF is wrong with these people?

Nope, it's not a lie. The odds of getting hit by a meteorite are greater than for a man to contract HIV through normal heterosexual sex.

Pattycake, you are one fucked up liar.

Heterosexuals and HIV

How HIV is Increasing Among Heterosexuals
It is a myth that AIDS is a gay disease. The fact is, 32% of Americans who were diagnosed with HIV/AIDS in 2007 were heterosexual. (See chart.)

HIV does not discriminate. Anyone can get it if he or she is not careful. You have probably heard many times about the importance of using condoms and practicing safe sex. Here is another reminder, and some tips about communicating openly with your sex partners.

Spare us your gay propaganda. Here are the facts:

Michael Fumento: The Myth of Heterosexual AIDS - A Nine-Year Retrospective of Fear and (Mostly) Loathing

The major exception was New York, where officials knew this was indeed the most crucial question regarding how far the epidemic would spread. As a result, they made it a policy to carefully interview all men who claimed to have been infected by a woman. They found that practically nobody fell into this category. Indeed, one of the few men they were convinced truly had no risk factors other than vaginal intercourse proved to have been a minor actor in gay pornography!

Thus while other health departments were reporting female-to-male transmissions left and right (and do so to this day) simply because whenever a man said he got HIV from sex with a woman they took his word for it, New York was screening these people out with careful interviews. Later it scaled back and then essentially ceased the interviewing process, inevitably leading to New York male "heterosexual transmission" cases going through the roof.

"I was appalled," said Sonnabend, who had worked for the Department of Health in the 1970s. "A number that was about 18 suddenly became 400 or 500, just because they stopped interviewing."

Still, if you looked at the handful of female-to-male transmission cases in New York while interviewing was still going on, and knew that New York had more AIDS cases than any other city in the country, it was clear that if such transmission were so rare there it would be rare everywhere. Case closed. You didn’t even need to know how efficiently men infected women. The lack of infection going back the other way essentially constituted a disease "firebreak."

 

[Avatar4321]

We have teachers feeding their sperm to kids on cookies

We have way bigger problems in the PS system.

We do?

 

[Annie]

One doesn't have to be pro-LBGT to be anti-AIDS. Personally I don't care about anyone's private life, don't think the state should have input either. Get the state out of marriage business and the whole brouhaha goes away. Not so with AIDS. Any fool who thinks heteros are immune, read up.

I may be conservative, but I'm not a fool. BTW, rape victims can be impregnated. Which is why if the police bring a rape victim to a Catholic Hospital, a D & C will be performed with the victim's consent. Yes, the Catholic hospitals, will perform a D & C for rape and/or incest. Pregnancies that endanger the life of the mother? Always have been left up to the mother, in Catholic teaching. A pregnancy that threatens life of the mother, may mean that other children would be 'motherless' if life not spared. Thus, choice left to mother.

I was taught the same back in the 70's.

 

[bripat9643]

I think, suggesting aids is a "gay thing" or even a druggie thing, is dangerous. A heterosexual can contract aids just as easily, and in other parts of the world they do.

I'm wondering if we have become lax with this issue, and is that a factor as to why Aids is on the rise here again?

Bullshit.

 

[bripat9643]

One doesn't have to be pro-LBGT to be anti-AIDS. Personally I don't care about anyone's private life, don't think the state should have input either. Get the state out of marriage business and the whole brouhaha goes away. Not so with AIDS. Any fool who thinks heteros are immune, read up.

I may be conservative, but I'm not a fool. BTW, rape victims can be impregnated. Which is why if the police bring a rape victim to a Catholic Hospital, a D & C will be performed with the victim's consent. Yes, the Catholic hospitals, will perform a D & C for rape and/or incest. Pregnancies that endanger the life of the mother? Always have been left up to the mother, in Catholic teaching. A pregnancy that threatens life of the mother, may mean that other children would be 'motherless' if life not spared. Thus, choice left to mother.

I was taught the same back in the 70's.

I have "read up." AIDS is a disease of homosexuals, IV drug users and their partners. If you're a normal heterosexual, your chances of getting HIV is virtually zero.

 

[Annie]

One doesn't have to be pro-LBGT to be anti-AIDS. Personally I don't care about anyone's private life, don't think the state should have input either. Get the state out of marriage business and the whole brouhaha goes away. Not so with AIDS. Any fool who thinks heteros are immune, read up.

I may be conservative, but I'm not a fool. BTW, rape victims can be impregnated. Which is why if the police bring a rape victim to a Catholic Hospital, a D & C will be performed with the victim's consent. Yes, the Catholic hospitals, will perform a D & C for rape and/or incest. Pregnancies that endanger the life of the mother? Always have been left up to the mother, in Catholic teaching. A pregnancy that threatens life of the mother, may mean that other children would be 'motherless' if life not spared. Thus, choice left to mother.

I was taught the same back in the 70's.

I have "read up." AIDS is a disease of homosexuals, IV drug users and their partners. If you're a normal heterosexual, your chances of getting HIV is virtually zero.

Is that what you would teach your children? I wouldn't and didn't.

 

[Avatar4321]

Is that what you would teach your children? I wouldn't and didn't.

No. I wouldn't. I would simply point out that keeping the commandments of God makes the chances of you getting it very slim.