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[Lucy Hamilton]

Would you guys PLEASE chill, and calm down? Can anything ever be discussed without the attacking??

OMG! I miss ALL the excitement, what happened?

 

[Lucy Hamilton]

You really don't have any idea what you're complaining about, of what is happening. I've already explained it, why are you not listening?

"Non-secure" warnings occur when navigation is attempted to a https connection (i.e. an encryption secured connection) but the browser is unable to identify an SSL certificate located where it ought to be on the website's servers. An SSL certificate provides secure https connections. When that certificate is absent (or expired) the https connection fails and only a plain http connection is possible. In essence, your broswer is saying "Hey stop! I'm being told to locate an SSL certificate but I can't find it!"

Secured https connections are valuable when you are transmitting sensitive data that you wouldn't want intercepted. For example, if you order a pizza online you have to transmit your credit card information. You wouldn't want that to be intercepted by a third party. In fact, secure https connections are required by US law for online payments. It can even be useful when you are transmitting other quasi-sensitive data. If you were planning a wedding and using photographers' websites to request information on pricing, you might be including things like your email and telephone number, which you might want to avoid having intercepted by spammers who will then call you 20 times a day to offer you medical knee braces. However, when you're simply viewing websites, or posting comments on publicly available messageboards, you aren't transmitting sensitive information. So an https connection offers nothing to you in such circumstances.

So, the only question right now is why you are attempting to access this site through an https connection. Chances are, it's simple user error associated with the settings on your browser. Sometimes a browser is set to automatically attempt https connections by default. So if you type "usmessageboard.com" into the address bar it automatically reaches out to "https://www.usemessageboard.com" to find the website you're looking for. These browser settings may be the default setting, or they may have been turned on by you. A recent update might override the user's previous settings to a new default mode.

Whatever the case, the solution to what you are experiencing can only be made on your end. You can manually change the url from https to http, or you can change your browser settings, or you can "create an exception" for the website in question. If none of that works easily for you, you can use a different browser that has controls and settings that you find easier to manage. Or, you could simply choose to stop using websites that don't provide https connections.

Maybe you should actually read the thread before wandering in the woods. I've made clear that I am *NOT* "trying to access the site via a secure connection". I've never done that. What I did, same thing as Oosie did, same thing that others having the same issue did, was to simply navigate to a site (in my case already open in a tab) that suddenly, on a specific date, tells all of us that something "expired" on the USMB end, on a specific date. That ain't got nothing to do with me/us. I'm not buying that elves ran amok through the night changing people's computers from here to Austria.

And my URL does not say "https". It never has. I posted that yesterday too.

In other words, I (we) changed nothing. USMB changed something, or it looks like, let something expire. And before you dig further, we already tried to dig into my settings for SSLs, SSTs, DMTs, LSDs, whatever else, and could not find it.

But no, I'm not about to change MY shit just because USMB fucks up. That ain't gonna happen. I won't be railroaded because of some outside entitiy's negligence.

Alright, then explain why you are able to be on and posting now? Use a different device? Different browser? You had to do something, obviously.

And while you're at it, why don't you go ahead and post a screenshot of exactly what you're seeing.

I cut-and-pasted the message yesterday, as did others (Oosie did I believe, with her Chrome, early in the thread), but yes I can do that if I let some time go by to recreate it. The way it works is, if I go immediately from one post to another it's normal. If I let the page sit and come back to it later, it puts up the error message which I have to override, and then I'm in.

Same thing happens (or was happening yesterday) when either of us tried to post a video. Refresh the page and override the error message, and you can continue. For me I was unable to post ANY link. Haven't posted a video today but did post a link, and it worked normally.

The poster who reported the same thing in Firefox got a very similar message, saying a certificate had expired on Apirl 28 2019 and that he should check his computer clock. Lucy on Chrome and I on Brave were told the same thing.


EDIT - OK here we go. Just now when I tried to edit this in I got the screen below. Clicked "Advanced" to open it up, then took the option at the lower left.

View attachment 258492​

Congratulations, you've proven that you have been wrong all along. That message indicates a missing SSL certificate. The browser is looking for an SSL certificate for a secure connection, and is not finding one. The certificate is "missing." By the way, Chrome and Brave are both Chromium browsers. They're basically the same thing, just tweaked a bit differently for aesthetics and a few minor operational variations.

How exactly am I "wrong" when the screenshot shows exactly what I said it did? I already noted the expired certificate, and I proved it. Also mentioned in my first post here that Brave is based on Chrome. The fact remains --- I made no changes; LucyHamilton made no changes; the Firefox user we quoted made no changes. This just popped up at the same time for everybody. I assure you we did not all conspire on Saturday night and decide "hey let's tweak our SSL thingies and blame USMB". That never happened. K?

This:

 

[Likkmee]

Maybe you should actually read the thread before wandering in the woods. I've made clear that I am *NOT* "trying to access the site via a secure connection". I've never done that. What I did, same thing as Oosie did, same thing that others having the same issue did, was to simply navigate to a site (in my case already open in a tab) that suddenly, on a specific date, tells all of us that something "expired" on the USMB end, on a specific date. That ain't got nothing to do with me/us. I'm not buying that elves ran amok through the night changing people's computers from here to Austria.

And my URL does not say "https". It never has. I posted that yesterday too.

In other words, I (we) changed nothing. USMB changed something, or it looks like, let something expire. And before you dig further, we already tried to dig into my settings for SSLs, SSTs, DMTs, LSDs, whatever else, and could not find it.

But no, I'm not about to change MY shit just because USMB fucks up. That ain't gonna happen. I won't be railroaded because of some outside entitiy's negligence.

Alright, then explain why you are able to be on and posting now? Use a different device? Different browser? You had to do something, obviously.

And while you're at it, why don't you go ahead and post a screenshot of exactly what you're seeing.

I cut-and-pasted the message yesterday, as did others (Oosie did I believe, with her Chrome, early in the thread), but yes I can do that if I let some time go by to recreate it. The way it works is, if I go immediately from one post to another it's normal. If I let the page sit and come back to it later, it puts up the error message which I have to override, and then I'm in.

Same thing happens (or was happening yesterday) when either of us tried to post a video. Refresh the page and override the error message, and you can continue. For me I was unable to post ANY link. Haven't posted a video today but did post a link, and it worked normally.

The poster who reported the same thing in Firefox got a very similar message, saying a certificate had expired on Apirl 28 2019 and that he should check his computer clock. Lucy on Chrome and I on Brave were told the same thing.


EDIT - OK here we go. Just now when I tried to edit this in I got the screen below. Clicked "Advanced" to open it up, then took the option at the lower left.

View attachment 258492​

Congratulations, you've proven that you have been wrong all along. That message indicates a missing SSL certificate. The browser is looking for an SSL certificate for a secure connection, and is not finding one. The certificate is "missing." By the way, Chrome and Brave are both Chromium browsers. They're basically the same thing, just tweaked a bit differently for aesthetics and a few minor operational variations.

How exactly am I "wrong" when the screenshot shows exactly what I said it did? I already noted the expired certificate, and I proved it. Also mentioned in my first post here that Brave is based on Chrome. The fact remains --- I made no changes; LucyHamilton made no changes; the Firefox user we quoted made no changes. This just popped up at the same time for everybody. I assure you we did not all conspire on Saturday night and decide "hey let's tweak our SSL thingies and blame USMB". That never happened. K?

This:

 

[Pogo]

Would you guys PLEASE chill, and calm down? Can anything ever be discussed without the attacking??

OMG! I miss ALL the excitement, what happened?

Dunno, sump'm musta got deleted. I miss all the good stuff.

 

[Pogo]

Came across an administrator's name that maybe should be alterted to whatever this is: elchorizo

Please also see this thread, seemingly related.

 

[Lucy Hamilton]

Came across an administrator's name that maybe should be alterted to whatever this is: elchorizo

Please also see this thread, seemingly related.

ogo that is my previous thread and yes when I was given Links I got that Error Message and now I am using Opera and when I clicked on that link again now I got the SAME Error Message as before was getting in Google Chrome only difference it tells me the forums Valid Certificate expired two days ago. I attempt to do a Screen Shoot in Opera of the message and it would not allow me to. I then return to the forum by clicking Back To Safety and check the Screen Shoot thing and it now allow me to Screen Shoot but not in that other link I Screen Shoot this to illustrate I am okay for Screen Shoot again now Back To Safety:

 

[Stormy Daniels]

Came across an administrator's name that maybe should be alterted to whatever this is: elchorizo

Please also see this thread, seemingly related.

Great example of the problem. See your link? You copy/paste the url? Your link specifies https, which will cause the same error messages you received before. That copy is something your browser did.

 

[Lucy Hamilton]

Came across an administrator's name that maybe should be alterted to whatever this is: elchorizo

Please also see this thread, seemingly related.

Great example of the problem. See your link? You copy/paste the url? Your link specifies https, which will cause the same error messages you received before. That copy is something your browser did.

So what should the url be then? IF to do a link to this forum you would type in WHAT?

 

[Indeependent]

Came across an administrator's name that maybe should be alterted to whatever this is: elchorizo

Please also see this thread, seemingly related.

Great example of the problem. See your link? You copy/paste the url? Your link specifies https, which will cause the same error messages you received before. That copy is something your browser did.

So what should the url be then? IF to do a link to this forum you would type in WHAT?

LiberalsAreInsane.com

 

[Pogo]

Came across an administrator's name that maybe should be alterted to whatever this is: elchorizo

Please also see this thread, seemingly related.

Great example of the problem. See your link? You copy/paste the url? Your link specifies https, which will cause the same error messages you received before. That copy is something your browser did.

Once AGAIN --- there is *NO* "https" in anything I type, NOR was it in anything I copied there, nor is it on my screen right now Perhaps YOUR browser is doing that but it's not on my screen at all, anywhere.

ALSO once again, NONE of us changed anything on our various browsers. We now have Chrome, Brave, Firefox, by Oosie's report Opera, and I think Safari was mentioned earlier, all returning similar error messages on users NONE of whom made any changes from the day before USMB's certificate supposedly expired. Everybody was simply navigating as usual, when suddenly Sunday these errors came popping up.

 

[Pogo]

Came across an administrator's name that maybe should be alterted to whatever this is: elchorizo

Please also see this thread, seemingly related.

ogo that is my previous thread and yes when I was given Links I got that Error Message and now I am using Opera and when I clicked on that link again now I got the SAME Error Message as before was getting in Google Chrome only difference it tells me the forums Valid Certificate expired two days ago. I attempt to do a Screen Shoot in Opera of the message and it would not allow me to. I then return to the forum by clicking Back To Safety and check the Screen Shoot thing and it now allow me to Screen Shoot but not in that other link I Screen Shoot this to illustrate I am okay for Screen Shoot again now Back To Safety:

View attachment 258575

That's very interesting Oosie. So Opera is now doing the same thing, yet wasn't doing it yesterday?

Next time you get the error see if you can at least copy and paste the text.

What I do for screenshots is, punch the "print screen" button (which puts whatever is on the screen into the clipboard), then paste that image into a text document, then right-click the image and select "save graphics" and save it as a JPEG, which I can then crop with a photo editor to snip out any personal info on the screen. Just FYI

 

[Lucy Hamilton]

Came across an administrator's name that maybe should be alterted to whatever this is: elchorizo

Please also see this thread, seemingly related.

ogo that is my previous thread and yes when I was given Links I got that Error Message and now I am using Opera and when I clicked on that link again now I got the SAME Error Message as before was getting in Google Chrome only difference it tells me the forums Valid Certificate expired two days ago. I attempt to do a Screen Shoot in Opera of the message and it would not allow me to. I then return to the forum by clicking Back To Safety and check the Screen Shoot thing and it now allow me to Screen Shoot but not in that other link I Screen Shoot this to illustrate I am okay for Screen Shoot again now Back To Safety:

View attachment 258575

That's very interesting Oosie. So Opera is now doing the same thing, yet wasn't doing it yesterday?

Next time you get the error see if you can at least copy and paste the text.

What I do for screenshots is, punch the "print screen" button (which puts whatever is on the screen into the clipboard), then paste that image into a text document, then right-click the image and select "save graphics" and save it as a JPEG, which I can then crop with a photo editor to snip out any personal info on the screen. Just FYI

It will not let me copy and paste it OR do a Screen Shoot, the Error Message in Google Chrome did at least let me copy and paste it.

 

[Pogo]

Came across an administrator's name that maybe should be alterted to whatever this is: elchorizo

Please also see this thread, seemingly related.

ogo that is my previous thread and yes when I was given Links I got that Error Message and now I am using Opera and when I clicked on that link again now I got the SAME Error Message as before was getting in Google Chrome only difference it tells me the forums Valid Certificate expired two days ago. I attempt to do a Screen Shoot in Opera of the message and it would not allow me to. I then return to the forum by clicking Back To Safety and check the Screen Shoot thing and it now allow me to Screen Shoot but not in that other link I Screen Shoot this to illustrate I am okay for Screen Shoot again now Back To Safety:

View attachment 258575

That's very interesting Oosie. So Opera is now doing the same thing, yet wasn't doing it yesterday?

Next time you get the error see if you can at least copy and paste the text.

What I do for screenshots is, punch the "print screen" button (which puts whatever is on the screen into the clipboard), then paste that image into a text document, then right-click the image and select "save graphics" and save it as a JPEG, which I can then crop with a photo editor to snip out any personal info on the screen. Just FYI

It will not let me copy and paste it OR do a Screen Shoot, the Error Message in Google Chrome did at least let me copy and paste it.

That's OK Oosie, I believe you.

You know that's what I always liked about you. You're honest.

 

[Stormy Daniels]

Came across an administrator's name that maybe should be alterted to whatever this is: elchorizo

Please also see this thread, seemingly related.

Great example of the problem. See your link? You copy/paste the url? Your link specifies https, which will cause the same error messages you received before. That copy is something your browser did.

So what should the url be then? IF to do a link to this forum you would type in WHAT?

The thread link Pogo posted begins with "https://" which attempts to find the url by using an SSL secured connection. Instead, the url should simply be made to begin with "http://" so that the browser disregards SSL considerations.

 

[Pogo]

Lately I've also been getting occasional "your connection was interrupted" messages, usually while active on this site (and therefore not needing the error workaround), which then leads to getting the error again. As if it was operating without the error, then decided to throw it in while I was clicking something.

STILL no word from the site....

 

[danielpalos]

Hello

I now get from approx 20 minutes ago an error message using Google Chrome to not allow access to US Messageboard as now Not Secure situation and that US Messageboard valid certificate expire now and that Google Chrome now not allow access because of stealing informations on personal things and credit cards etc

So I am posting this OP using different Browser and you can notice it allow me to access this forum. I have not AdBloc on this Browser but now go and do because WTF the ads on this forum are crazy x 1000

Mods and/or Admin and also other forum members if using Google Chrome you have the same problem as I explain above or not having?

It tell me Not Secure Connection and then this below the valid certificate for this forum expire 28 Apr 2019:

NET::ERR_CERT_DATE_INVALID
Subject: usmessageboard.com

Issuer: Let's Encrypt Authority X3

Expires on: 28 Apr 2019

Current date: 28 Apr 2019

This occur to only Google Chrome I think at this forum other Browser I am using not having this situation. Also I add on Google Chrome Browser ONLY this forum give the above error message all everything else okay.

The issue appear to be the HTTP thing I think and it not appear eg:

US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum

The above Secure as it should be.

This forum not have the above this forum is:

www.usmessageboard.com

The Let's Encrypt Authority X3 thing above I Google and this is what I have the below I add is for ONLY the Domain owner and NOT for users of whatever Domain and so the below is for Admin:

Renewing a Let’s Encrypt SSL Certificate
There are a few important things you should note about renewing an SSL certificatebefore continuing with this document.

All Let’s Encrypt SSL certificates, including renewals, are valid for no more than 90 days from their issue date. Thirty days before the certificate expires you will begin receiving renewal notices. If you have not selected the auto-renewal option, these are the steps to manually renew your Let’s Encrypt certificate:

To renew a certificate

1. Log into DNSimple with your user credentials.
2. If you have more than one account, select the relevant one.
3. On the header click the Domains tab, locate the relevant domain and click on the name to access the domain page.
4. Scroll down to the SSL certificates section and find the active SSL certificate. Click Renew to start the renewal.

https://support.dnsimple.com/articles/renewing-lets-encrypt-ssl-certificate/

you may need to reinstall it.

 

[Pogo]

Hello

I now get from approx 20 minutes ago an error message using Google Chrome to not allow access to US Messageboard as now Not Secure situation and that US Messageboard valid certificate expire now and that Google Chrome now not allow access because of stealing informations on personal things and credit cards etc

So I am posting this OP using different Browser and you can notice it allow me to access this forum. I have not AdBloc on this Browser but now go and do because WTF the ads on this forum are crazy x 1000

Mods and/or Admin and also other forum members if using Google Chrome you have the same problem as I explain above or not having?

It tell me Not Secure Connection and then this below the valid certificate for this forum expire 28 Apr 2019:

NET::ERR_CERT_DATE_INVALID
Subject: usmessageboard.com

Issuer: Let's Encrypt Authority X3

Expires on: 28 Apr 2019

Current date: 28 Apr 2019

This occur to only Google Chrome I think at this forum other Browser I am using not having this situation. Also I add on Google Chrome Browser ONLY this forum give the above error message all everything else okay.

The issue appear to be the HTTP thing I think and it not appear eg:

US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum

The above Secure as it should be.

This forum not have the above this forum is:

www.usmessageboard.com

The Let's Encrypt Authority X3 thing above I Google and this is what I have the below I add is for ONLY the Domain owner and NOT for users of whatever Domain and so the below is for Admin:

Renewing a Let’s Encrypt SSL Certificate
There are a few important things you should note about renewing an SSL certificatebefore continuing with this document.

All Let’s Encrypt SSL certificates, including renewals, are valid for no more than 90 days from their issue date. Thirty days before the certificate expires you will begin receiving renewal notices. If you have not selected the auto-renewal option, these are the steps to manually renew your Let’s Encrypt certificate:

To renew a certificate

1. Log into DNSimple with your user credentials.
2. If you have more than one account, select the relevant one.
3. On the header click the Domains tab, locate the relevant domain and click on the name to access the domain page.
4. Scroll down to the SSL certificates section and find the active SSL certificate. Click Renew to start the renewal.

https://support.dnsimple.com/articles/renewing-lets-encrypt-ssl-certificate/

you may need to reinstall it.

As it says in the post ---- that procedure is for the site, not for us on the user end.

 

[Lucy Hamilton]

Came across an administrator's name that maybe should be alterted to whatever this is: elchorizo

Please also see this thread, seemingly related.

ogo that is my previous thread and yes when I was given Links I got that Error Message and now I am using Opera and when I clicked on that link again now I got the SAME Error Message as before was getting in Google Chrome only difference it tells me the forums Valid Certificate expired two days ago. I attempt to do a Screen Shoot in Opera of the message and it would not allow me to. I then return to the forum by clicking Back To Safety and check the Screen Shoot thing and it now allow me to Screen Shoot but not in that other link I Screen Shoot this to illustrate I am okay for Screen Shoot again now Back To Safety:

View attachment 258575

That's very interesting Oosie. So Opera is now doing the same thing, yet wasn't doing it yesterday?

Next time you get the error see if you can at least copy and paste the text.

What I do for screenshots is, punch the "print screen" button (which puts whatever is on the screen into the clipboard), then paste that image into a text document, then right-click the image and select "save graphics" and save it as a JPEG, which I can then crop with a photo editor to snip out any personal info on the screen. Just FYI

It will not let me copy and paste it OR do a Screen Shoot, the Error Message in Google Chrome did at least let me copy and paste it.

That's OK Oosie, I believe you.

You know that's what I always liked about you. You're honest.

For you ogo also

 

[Pogo]

Came across an administrator's name that maybe should be alterted to whatever this is: elchorizo

Please also see this thread, seemingly related.

ogo that is my previous thread and yes when I was given Links I got that Error Message and now I am using Opera and when I clicked on that link again now I got the SAME Error Message as before was getting in Google Chrome only difference it tells me the forums Valid Certificate expired two days ago. I attempt to do a Screen Shoot in Opera of the message and it would not allow me to. I then return to the forum by clicking Back To Safety and check the Screen Shoot thing and it now allow me to Screen Shoot but not in that other link I Screen Shoot this to illustrate I am okay for Screen Shoot again now Back To Safety:

View attachment 258575

That's very interesting Oosie. So Opera is now doing the same thing, yet wasn't doing it yesterday?

Next time you get the error see if you can at least copy and paste the text.

What I do for screenshots is, punch the "print screen" button (which puts whatever is on the screen into the clipboard), then paste that image into a text document, then right-click the image and select "save graphics" and save it as a JPEG, which I can then crop with a photo editor to snip out any personal info on the screen. Just FYI

It will not let me copy and paste it OR do a Screen Shoot, the Error Message in Google Chrome did at least let me copy and paste it.

That's OK Oosie, I believe you.

You know that's what I always liked about you. You're honest.

For you ogo also

Well, we still have no resolution, forced to navigate through error message workarounds. It would appear USMB has abandoned their own site. They have enough moderation to come in and scrub troll posts so they're aware of the thread but apparently nobody cares.

 

[Lucy Hamilton]

ogo that is my previous thread and yes when I was given Links I got that Error Message and now I am using Opera and when I clicked on that link again now I got the SAME Error Message as before was getting in Google Chrome only difference it tells me the forums Valid Certificate expired two days ago. I attempt to do a Screen Shoot in Opera of the message and it would not allow me to. I then return to the forum by clicking Back To Safety and check the Screen Shoot thing and it now allow me to Screen Shoot but not in that other link I Screen Shoot this to illustrate I am okay for Screen Shoot again now Back To Safety:

View attachment 258575

That's very interesting Oosie. So Opera is now doing the same thing, yet wasn't doing it yesterday?

Next time you get the error see if you can at least copy and paste the text.

What I do for screenshots is, punch the "print screen" button (which puts whatever is on the screen into the clipboard), then paste that image into a text document, then right-click the image and select "save graphics" and save it as a JPEG, which I can then crop with a photo editor to snip out any personal info on the screen. Just FYI

It will not let me copy and paste it OR do a Screen Shoot, the Error Message in Google Chrome did at least let me copy and paste it.

That's OK Oosie, I believe you.

You know that's what I always liked about you. You're honest.

For you ogo also

Well, we still have no resolution, forced to navigate through error message workarounds. It would appear USMB has abandoned their own site. They have enough moderation to come in and scrub troll posts so they're aware of the thread but apparently nobody cares.

What are we to do then?