God must be truly great

[yiostheoy]

I still haven't figured that one out. Why did he have to be tortured and die? I thought God could make the rules. Why would he make such a dumb one? Is God mentally challenged?

Atonement is an English word (therefore Protestant/Anglican) which means in English "satisfaction or reparation for wrong".

noun
1.
satisfaction or reparation for a wrong or injury; amends.
2.
(sometimes initial capital letter) Theology. the doctrine concerning the reconciliation of God and humankind, especially as accomplished through the life, suffering, and death of Christ.
3.
Christian Science. the experience of humankind's unity with God exemplified by Jesus Christ.
4.
Archaic. reconciliation; agreement.

 

[froggy]

And this is assuming that this god isn't a trillion times greater if parallel universes exist.

If so no wonder he seems not to give a damn about little human beings.

He does care but he wants you to choose him above all other.

He cared enough about you to be tortured and die for you. What else do you require?
And yes He wants you to choose Him. He is the only one with the power, the glory, and the love for you to give you an eternal life as Royalty.

I still haven't figured that one out. Why did he have to be tortured and die? I thought God could make the rules. Why would he make such a dumb one? Is God mentally challenged?

He went through death and concurred it so you would not have to die.

 

[Asclepias]

And this is assuming that this god isn't a trillion times greater if parallel universes exist.

If so no wonder he seems not to give a damn about little human beings.

He does care but he wants you to choose him above all other.

He cared enough about you to be tortured and die for you. What else do you require?
And yes He wants you to choose Him. He is the only one with the power, the glory, and the love for you to give you an eternal life as Royalty.

I still haven't figured that one out. Why did he have to be tortured and die? I thought God could make the rules. Why would he make such a dumb one? Is God mentally challenged?

He went through death and concurred it so you would not have to die.

Why did he have to go through all that instead of god just snapping his fingers and making it so? Why would god put his son through torture?

 

[leftwinger]

And this is assuming that this god isn't a trillion times greater if parallel universes exist.

If so no wonder he seems not to give a damn about little human beings.

He does care but he wants you to choose him above all other.

He cared enough about you to be tortured and die for you. What else do you require?
And yes He wants you to choose Him. He is the only one with the power, the glory, and the love for you to give you an eternal life as Royalty.

I still haven't figured that one out. Why did he have to be tortured and die? I thought God could make the rules. Why would he make such a dumb one? Is God mentally challenged?

Jesus the Son of God was tortured and put in the tomb John 3:16 is famous verse. "......He gave his only begotten Son...." or so I learned? No keyboard on me now Ace....read the verse. I'm no expert.

 

[Asclepias]

And this is assuming that this god isn't a trillion times greater if parallel universes exist.

If so no wonder he seems not to give a damn about little human beings.

He does care but he wants you to choose him above all other.

He cared enough about you to be tortured and die for you. What else do you require?
And yes He wants you to choose Him. He is the only one with the power, the glory, and the love for you to give you an eternal life as Royalty.

I still haven't figured that one out. Why did he have to be tortured and die? I thought God could make the rules. Why would he make such a dumb one? Is God mentally challenged?

Jesus the son of God was tortured and put in the tkmb John 3:16 is famous verse. "......He gave his only begotten Son...." or so I learned?

Who forced god to give up his only son and why did he punk out like that?

 

[BULLDOG]

I still haven't figured that one out. Why did he have to be tortured and die? I thought God could make the rules. Why would he make such a dumb one? Is God mentally challenged?

Atonement is an English word (therefore Protestant/Anglican) which means in English "satisfaction or reparation for wrong".

noun
1.
satisfaction or reparation for a wrong or injury; amends.
2.
(sometimes initial capital letter) Theology. the doctrine concerning the reconciliation of God and humankind, especially as accomplished through the life, suffering, and death of Christ.
3.
Christian Science. the experience of humankind's unity with God exemplified by Jesus Christ.
4.
Archaic. reconciliation; agreement.

I know what the words mean, but If God is God, he is not bound by some arbitrary rule. If he wants to forgive us, he can. He does not have to have his son suffer to do that. Are you saying there are some things God just can't do? That would mean he's not the all powerful God that you claim he is.

 

[froggy]

He can make entire galaxies full of hundreds of billions of stars. Heck, hundreds of billions of Galaxies!
He can make Trillions of planets
He makes life with a mar thought...I am assuming on probably far more planets then Just earth! Probably hundreds of trillions of living creatures and probably billions of self thinking ones like you and me.

And yet his bible only talks about our planet and such a god cares enough about me to expect perfect behavior at all times. Which lets be frank is impossible for such creatures as us humans!

I'd expect such a god as above to understand what fun is and to not be so limited as to only talking about one planet.

^Let's rip that to shreds shall we?
Let's be frank. God is the opposite of what you describe. No where in the Bible does it say that God expects perfection from humans. That is utter bullshit. God knows there is not one human who hasn't sinned. NOT ONE. And yet, He loves us anyway, He covers our sins and forgives forgives and forgives. It is His nature. He became one of us to remove the condemnation for our sins, so that we are not punished for our behavior, and instead dances for joy over us. Then just like any good Father, he paved the way for us to be co-heirs of everything He has created. Which is everything.

We are still too stupid to understand His psychics, all of the dimensions that are described in the Bible, and yet you think more information is necessary.? There is nothing more that you need to know to make it to the next era of your life.
Your Father really is great. He still loves you, doesn't He?

You might want to double check that whole not worrying about us being perfect thing
Matthew 5:48King James Version (KJV)
48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.

That means. In context "you are to be perfect" means "you are to love as God loves: without partiality

 

[BULLDOG]

And this is assuming that this god isn't a trillion times greater if parallel universes exist.

If so no wonder he seems not to give a damn about little human beings.

He does care but he wants you to choose him above all other.

He cared enough about you to be tortured and die for you. What else do you require?
And yes He wants you to choose Him. He is the only one with the power, the glory, and the love for you to give you an eternal life as Royalty.

I still haven't figured that one out. Why did he have to be tortured and die? I thought God could make the rules. Why would he make such a dumb one? Is God mentally challenged?

He went through death and concurred it so you would not have to die.

Yes. We have all heard the story.I'm asking why? Why is God limited in the way he forgives?

 

[Asclepias]

I still haven't figured that one out. Why did he have to be tortured and die? I thought God could make the rules. Why would he make such a dumb one? Is God mentally challenged?

Atonement is an English word (therefore Protestant/Anglican) which means in English "satisfaction or reparation for wrong".

noun
1.
satisfaction or reparation for a wrong or injury; amends.
2.
(sometimes initial capital letter) Theology. the doctrine concerning the reconciliation of God and humankind, especially as accomplished through the life, suffering, and death of Christ.
3.
Christian Science. the experience of humankind's unity with God exemplified by Jesus Christ.
4.
Archaic. reconciliation; agreement.

I know what the words mean, but If God is God, he is not bound by some arbitrary rule. If he wants to forgive us, he can. He does not have to have his son suffer to do that. Are you saying there are some things God just can't do? That would mean he's not the all powerful God that you claim he is.

I've never gotten an answer to that one either. Every time I pointed this out they come with one of those sayings that basically means only god knows.

 

[BULLDOG]

And this is assuming that this god isn't a trillion times greater if parallel universes exist.

If so no wonder he seems not to give a damn about little human beings.

He does care but he wants you to choose him above all other.

He cared enough about you to be tortured and die for you. What else do you require?
And yes He wants you to choose Him. He is the only one with the power, the glory, and the love for you to give you an eternal life as Royalty.

I still haven't figured that one out. Why did he have to be tortured and die? I thought God could make the rules. Why would he make such a dumb one? Is God mentally challenged?

Jesus the Son of God was tortured and put in the tomb John 3:16 is famous verse. "......He gave his only begotten Son...." or so I learned? No keyboard on me now Ace....read the verse. I'm no expert.

Again, I know the verse. That's not what I;m asking.

 

[froggy]

And this is assuming that this god isn't a trillion times greater if parallel universes exist.

If so no wonder he seems not to give a damn about little human beings.

He does care but he wants you to choose him above all other.

He cared enough about you to be tortured and die for you. What else do you require?
And yes He wants you to choose Him. He is the only one with the power, the glory, and the love for you to give you an eternal life as Royalty.

I still haven't figured that one out. Why did he have to be tortured and die? I thought God could make the rules. Why would he make such a dumb one? Is God mentally challenged?

He went through death and concurred it so you would not have to die.

Yes. We have all heard the story.I'm asking why? Why is God limited in the way he forgives?

God has no limits

 

[BULLDOG]

He can make entire galaxies full of hundreds of billions of stars. Heck, hundreds of billions of Galaxies!
He can make Trillions of planets
He makes life with a mar thought...I am assuming on probably far more planets then Just earth! Probably hundreds of trillions of living creatures and probably billions of self thinking ones like you and me.

And yet his bible only talks about our planet and such a god cares enough about me to expect perfect behavior at all times. Which lets be frank is impossible for such creatures as us humans!

I'd expect such a god as above to understand what fun is and to not be so limited as to only talking about one planet.

^Let's rip that to shreds shall we?
Let's be frank. God is the opposite of what you describe. No where in the Bible does it say that God expects perfection from humans. That is utter bullshit. God knows there is not one human who hasn't sinned. NOT ONE. And yet, He loves us anyway, He covers our sins and forgives forgives and forgives. It is His nature. He became one of us to remove the condemnation for our sins, so that we are not punished for our behavior, and instead dances for joy over us. Then just like any good Father, he paved the way for us to be co-heirs of everything He has created. Which is everything.

We are still too stupid to understand His psychics, all of the dimensions that are described in the Bible, and yet you think more information is necessary.? There is nothing more that you need to know to make it to the next era of your life.
Your Father really is great. He still loves you, doesn't He?

You might want to double check that whole not worrying about us being perfect thing
Matthew 5:48King James Version (KJV)
48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.

That means. In context "you are to be perfect" means "you are to love as God loves: without partiality

It means be perfect. He didn't add all that other crap you just added.

 

[Asclepias]

He does care but he wants you to choose him above all other.

He cared enough about you to be tortured and die for you. What else do you require?
And yes He wants you to choose Him. He is the only one with the power, the glory, and the love for you to give you an eternal life as Royalty.

I still haven't figured that one out. Why did he have to be tortured and die? I thought God could make the rules. Why would he make such a dumb one? Is God mentally challenged?

He went through death and concurred it so you would not have to die.

Yes. We have all heard the story.I'm asking why? Why is God limited in the way he forgives?

God has no limits

How do you know this? He must have some limits if he had to give his own son up in order to save everyone else. Do you know who forced him to give up his son?

 

[froggy]

He can make entire galaxies full of hundreds of billions of stars. Heck, hundreds of billions of Galaxies!
He can make Trillions of planets
He makes life with a mar thought...I am assuming on probably far more planets then Just earth! Probably hundreds of trillions of living creatures and probably billions of self thinking ones like you and me.

And yet his bible only talks about our planet and such a god cares enough about me to expect perfect behavior at all times. Which lets be frank is impossible for such creatures as us humans!

I'd expect such a god as above to understand what fun is and to not be so limited as to only talking about one planet.

^Let's rip that to shreds shall we?
Let's be frank. God is the opposite of what you describe. No where in the Bible does it say that God expects perfection from humans. That is utter bullshit. God knows there is not one human who hasn't sinned. NOT ONE. And yet, He loves us anyway, He covers our sins and forgives forgives and forgives. It is His nature. He became one of us to remove the condemnation for our sins, so that we are not punished for our behavior, and instead dances for joy over us. Then just like any good Father, he paved the way for us to be co-heirs of everything He has created. Which is everything.

We are still too stupid to understand His psychics, all of the dimensions that are described in the Bible, and yet you think more information is necessary.? There is nothing more that you need to know to make it to the next era of your life.
Your Father really is great. He still loves you, doesn't He?

How do you know a person that has never spoken to you or you have never seen loves you?

With faith God will open all to you.

 

[yiostheoy]

He cared enough about you to be tortured and die for you. What else do you require?
And yes He wants you to choose Him. He is the only one with the power, the glory, and the love for you to give you an eternal life as Royalty.

I still haven't figured that one out. Why did he have to be tortured and die? I thought God could make the rules. Why would he make such a dumb one? Is God mentally challenged?

He went through death and concurred it so you would not have to die.

Yes. We have all heard the story.I'm asking why? Why is God limited in the way he forgives?

God has no limits

How do you know this? He must have some limits if he had to give his own son up in order to save everyone else. Do you know who forced him to give up his son?

Do you know of any African gods (presumably with bones through their noses) that has any such international teachings ??

 

[yiostheoy]

God has no limits

That would be a philosophical dilemma.

 

[froggy]

He can make entire galaxies full of hundreds of billions of stars. Heck, hundreds of billions of Galaxies!
He can make Trillions of planets
He makes life with a mar thought...I am assuming on probably far more planets then Just earth! Probably hundreds of trillions of living creatures and probably billions of self thinking ones like you and me.

And yet his bible only talks about our planet and such a god cares enough about me to expect perfect behavior at all times. Which lets be frank is impossible for such creatures as us humans!

I'd expect such a god as above to understand what fun is and to not be so limited as to only talking about one planet.

^Let's rip that to shreds shall we?
Let's be frank. God is the opposite of what you describe. No where in the Bible does it say that God expects perfection from humans. That is utter bullshit. God knows there is not one human who hasn't sinned. NOT ONE. And yet, He loves us anyway, He covers our sins and forgives forgives and forgives. It is His nature. He became one of us to remove the condemnation for our sins, so that we are not punished for our behavior, and instead dances for joy over us. Then just like any good Father, he paved the way for us to be co-heirs of everything He has created. Which is everything.

We are still too stupid to understand His psychics, all of the dimensions that are described in the Bible, and yet you think more information is necessary.? There is nothing more that you need to know to make it to the next era of your life.
Your Father really is great. He still loves you, doesn't He?

You might want to double check that whole not worrying about us being perfect thing
Matthew 5:48King James Version (KJV)
48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.

That means. In context "you are to be perfect" means "you are to love as God loves: without partiality

It means be perfect. He didn't add all that other crap you just added.

Wrong.

 

[BULLDOG]

He does care but he wants you to choose him above all other.

He cared enough about you to be tortured and die for you. What else do you require?
And yes He wants you to choose Him. He is the only one with the power, the glory, and the love for you to give you an eternal life as Royalty.

I still haven't figured that one out. Why did he have to be tortured and die? I thought God could make the rules. Why would he make such a dumb one? Is God mentally challenged?

He went through death and concurred it so you would not have to die.

Yes. We have all heard the story.I'm asking why? Why is God limited in the way he forgives?

God has no limits

Then why did he have to have his son die to forgive us? He wasn't able to forgive us without that?

 

[yiostheoy]

I know what the words mean, but If God is God, he is not bound by some arbitrary rule. If he wants to forgive us, he can. He does not have to have his son suffer to do that. Are you saying there are some things God just can't do? That would mean he's not the all powerful God that you claim he is.

That would be a philosophical dilemma if "God was not limited".

God has placed limitations on all things. Even upon himself/herself/itself.

 

[BULLDOG]

He can make entire galaxies full of hundreds of billions of stars. Heck, hundreds of billions of Galaxies!
He can make Trillions of planets
He makes life with a mar thought...I am assuming on probably far more planets then Just earth! Probably hundreds of trillions of living creatures and probably billions of self thinking ones like you and me.

And yet his bible only talks about our planet and such a god cares enough about me to expect perfect behavior at all times. Which lets be frank is impossible for such creatures as us humans!

I'd expect such a god as above to understand what fun is and to not be so limited as to only talking about one planet.

^Let's rip that to shreds shall we?
Let's be frank. God is the opposite of what you describe. No where in the Bible does it say that God expects perfection from humans. That is utter bullshit. God knows there is not one human who hasn't sinned. NOT ONE. And yet, He loves us anyway, He covers our sins and forgives forgives and forgives. It is His nature. He became one of us to remove the condemnation for our sins, so that we are not punished for our behavior, and instead dances for joy over us. Then just like any good Father, he paved the way for us to be co-heirs of everything He has created. Which is everything.

We are still too stupid to understand His psychics, all of the dimensions that are described in the Bible, and yet you think more information is necessary.? There is nothing more that you need to know to make it to the next era of your life.
Your Father really is great. He still loves you, doesn't He?

You might want to double check that whole not worrying about us being perfect thing
Matthew 5:48King James Version (KJV)
48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.

That means. In context "you are to be perfect" means "you are to love as God loves: without partiality

It means be perfect. He didn't add all that other crap you just added.

Wrong.

Then explain why I;m wrong.