God... Is Time.

[TyroneSlothrop]

The OSOTU is God...Operating System of the Universe....

 

[PostmodernProph]

There's no such thing as revised atheist version of the bibles. Christians have quite enough versions already.

must be......our version doesn't have what you pretend it does......

 

[PostmodernProph]

???....well....I asked the question on the previous page.......you have not posted an answer since I asked the question......therefore, your claim to have answered the question is a bit problematic........perhaps you should try again.....because you apparently forgot to click the "Post Reply" button when you finished.......

You'd have better success if you paid attention. Read the thread. One of the problems you're having is that with a predefined conclusion that you will arbitrarily accept some portions of genesis and arbitrarily reject others, you have difficulty making connections with what people have written out vs. what you're able to comprehend.

don't be a chicken, Hollie....if you think you have an answer to the question just blurt it out......we won't make fun of you......much.......

You're welcome to read what I posted in the thread. Laziness on your part is not my problem.

refusing to answer is your problem.....

Not when I've already written out the explanation in this thread.

you haven't written out the answer to MY question.....

 

[PostmodernProph]

Your gawds creating evil is a function of the genesis fable.

explain how the "genesis fable" functions to show God creating a thing called "evil"......

Isaiah 45:7King James Version (KJV)
I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things.

lol....get a more accurate translation.....
I form the light and create darkness
I bring prosperity and create disaster;
I, the Lord, do all these things.
Isaiah 45 NIV - This is what the LORD says to his - Bible Gateway

 

[edthecynic]

Your gawds creating evil is a function of the genesis fable.

explain how the "genesis fable" functions to show God creating a thing called "evil"......

Isaiah 45:7King James Version (KJV)
I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things.

lol....get a more accurate translation.....
I form the light and create darkness
I bring prosperity and create disaster;
I, the Lord, do all these things.
Isaiah 45 NIV - This is what the LORD says to his - Bible Gateway

So you can change the words to whatever you want. My translation has been the official version for 400 years, what week was yours fabricated?

 

[Hollie]

You'd have better success if you paid attention. Read the thread. One of the problems you're having is that with a predefined conclusion that you will arbitrarily accept some portions of genesis and arbitrarily reject others, you have difficulty making connections with what people have written out vs. what you're able to comprehend.

don't be a chicken, Hollie....if you think you have an answer to the question just blurt it out......we won't make fun of you......much.......

You're welcome to read what I posted in the thread. Laziness on your part is not my problem.

refusing to answer is your problem.....

Not when I've already written out the explanation in this thread.

you haven't written out the answer to MY question.....

It's in this thread. You were told more than once.

 

[Hollie]

Your gawds creating evil is a function of the genesis fable.

explain how the "genesis fable" functions to show God creating a thing called "evil"......

Isaiah 45:7King James Version (KJV)
I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things.

lol....get a more accurate translation.....
I form the light and create darkness
I bring prosperity and create disaster;
I, the Lord, do all these things.
Isaiah 45 NIV - This is what the LORD says to his - Bible Gateway

How interesting that a pick and choose religionist has pick and choose bibles.

 

[BreezeWood]

Your gawds creating evil is a function of the genesis fable.

explain how the "genesis fable" functions to show God creating a thing called "evil"......

Isaiah 45:7King James Version (KJV)
I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things.

.

I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things.

the "honest" words of the present ruler of the Everlasting ... all hail the Almighty. .

.

 

[RandomVariable]

Your gawds creating evil is a function of the genesis fable.

explain how the "genesis fable" functions to show God creating a thing called "evil"......

Isaiah 45:7King James Version (KJV)
I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things.

.

I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things.

the "honest" words of the present ruler of the Everlasting ... all hail the Almighty. .

.

This is where one poster will Google a term and find a single verse and claim they have understanding. Sorry to inform you of this but you have none. What makes you think you do when understanding to you is as sunlight is to a cave dweller. I will now give an explanation to which Hollie will do her thing, 'it's in the thread somewhere', Breezy will do thing, can't quite decipher that one, and eddie will do his thing, Google.

God is a terrible God. He says so. Is God a terrible God? Depends on who you are. God does evil. He says so. Does God do evil? Depends on who you are. If you have knowledge of good and evil you will know evil when you see it. If you have understanding of evil you will know who you are.

 

[Hollie]

Your gawds creating evil is a function of the genesis fable.

explain how the "genesis fable" functions to show God creating a thing called "evil"......

Isaiah 45:7King James Version (KJV)
I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things.

.

I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things.

the "honest" words of the present ruler of the Everlasting ... all hail the Almighty. .

.

This is where one poster will Google a term and find a single verse and claim they have understanding. Sorry to inform you of this but you have none. What makes you think you do when understanding to you is as sunlight is to a cave dweller. I will now give an explanation to which Hollie will do her thing, 'it's in the thread somewhere', Breezy will do thing, can't quite decipher that one, and eddie will do his thing, Google.

God is a terrible God. He says so. Is God a terrible God? Depends on who you are. God does evil. He says so. Does God do evil? Depends on who you are. If you have knowledge of good and evil you will know evil when you see it. If you have understanding of evil you will know who you are.

I gave you a detailed examination of the errors, inconsistencies and fraud that litters the Genesis fable. You very nearly suffered a meltdown.

Because you're not emotionally or intellectually prepared to confront the issues presented to you, you should consider avoiding these threads.

 

[Hollie]

Items 1 through 3 I've addressed and you're now reduced to juvenile attempts at insult.

God has told me he never spoke to you regarding he being the fundamental principle of nature.

Admit defeat and repent.

The gawds have told me you misrepresented them.

There will be holy hell to pay.

All kidding aside there are places you should not play. You are in one of them.

I have an entitlement, from the gawds.

I will repeat this once for you, Hollie, don't do it. As I have said if I had not seen physical evidence after physical evidence that God approved I would not be doing what I am doing. When I first started I prayed a lot for God to tell me if I was wrong. Even after that I still worried for my very soul. I am more sure of it now but even so I was talking to God less than an hour ago and praying that if I should wander to rein me in.

God is real and you do not have entitlement. Some things can not be undone.

3.5 out of 10 for silly melodrama.

 

[RandomVariable]

Your gawds creating evil is a function of the genesis fable.

explain how the "genesis fable" functions to show God creating a thing called "evil"......

Isaiah 45:7King James Version (KJV)
I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things.

.

I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things.

the "honest" words of the present ruler of the Everlasting ... all hail the Almighty. .

.

This is where one poster will Google a term and find a single verse and claim they have understanding. Sorry to inform you of this but you have none. What makes you think you do when understanding to you is as sunlight is to a cave dweller. I will now give an explanation to which Hollie will do her thing, 'it's in the thread somewhere', Breezy will do thing, can't quite decipher that one, and eddie will do his thing, Google.

God is a terrible God. He says so. Is God a terrible God? Depends on who you are. God does evil. He says so. Does God do evil? Depends on who you are. If you have knowledge of good and evil you will know evil when you see it. If you have understanding of evil you will know who you are.

I gave you a detailed examination of the errors, inconsistencies and fraud that litters the Genesis fable. You very nearly suffered a meltdown.

Because you're not emotionally or intellectually prepared to confront the issues presented to you, you should consider avoiding these threads.

Job 24:8 They are wet with the showers of the mountains, and embrace the rock for want of a shelter.

 

[RandomVariable]

Admit defeat and repent.

The gawds have told me you misrepresented them.

There will be holy hell to pay.

All kidding aside there are places you should not play. You are in one of them.

I have an entitlement, from the gawds.

I will repeat this once for you, Hollie, don't do it. As I have said if I had not seen physical evidence after physical evidence that God approved I would not be doing what I am doing. When I first started I prayed a lot for God to tell me if I was wrong. Even after that I still worried for my very soul. I am more sure of it now but even so I was talking to God less than an hour ago and praying that if I should wander to rein me in.

God is real and you do not have entitlement. Some things can not be undone.

3.5 out of 10 for silly melodrama.

You walk in a fog of your own vanity and arrogance. The light of others you try to dim so other can share your darkness.

 

[Hollie]

explain how the "genesis fable" functions to show God creating a thing called "evil"......

Isaiah 45:7King James Version (KJV)
I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things.

.

I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things.

the "honest" words of the present ruler of the Everlasting ... all hail the Almighty. .

.

This is where one poster will Google a term and find a single verse and claim they have understanding. Sorry to inform you of this but you have none. What makes you think you do when understanding to you is as sunlight is to a cave dweller. I will now give an explanation to which Hollie will do her thing, 'it's in the thread somewhere', Breezy will do thing, can't quite decipher that one, and eddie will do his thing, Google.

God is a terrible God. He says so. Is God a terrible God? Depends on who you are. God does evil. He says so. Does God do evil? Depends on who you are. If you have knowledge of good and evil you will know evil when you see it. If you have understanding of evil you will know who you are.

I gave you a detailed examination of the errors, inconsistencies and fraud that litters the Genesis fable. You very nearly suffered a meltdown.

Because you're not emotionally or intellectually prepared to confront the issues presented to you, you should consider avoiding these threads.

Job 24:8 They are wet with the showers of the mountains, and embrace the rock for want of a shelter.

Job 24:8.1 thou drink'eth the Kool-Aid and embrace'eth the horror for want'eth of religious fundamentalism'eth.

 

[Hollie]

The gawds have told me you misrepresented them.

There will be holy hell to pay.

All kidding aside there are places you should not play. You are in one of them.

I have an entitlement, from the gawds.

I will repeat this once for you, Hollie, don't do it. As I have said if I had not seen physical evidence after physical evidence that God approved I would not be doing what I am doing. When I first started I prayed a lot for God to tell me if I was wrong. Even after that I still worried for my very soul. I am more sure of it now but even so I was talking to God less than an hour ago and praying that if I should wander to rein me in.

God is real and you do not have entitlement. Some things can not be undone.

3.5 out of 10 for silly melodrama.

You walk in a fog of your own vanity and arrogance. The light of others you try to dim so other can share your darkness.

Thomas Jefferson

"I have examined all the known superstitions of the world, and I do not find in our particular superstition of Christianity one redeeming feature. They are all alike founded on fables and mythology. Millions of innocent men, women and children, since the introduction of Christianity, have been burnt, tortured, fined and imprisoned. What has been the effect of this coercion? To make one half the world fools and the other half hypocrites; to support roguery and error all over the earth."

SIX HISTORIC AMERICANS,
by John E. Remsburg, letter to William Short


Regarding Government Meddling With Religion

"I consider the government of the United States as interdicted by the Constitution from intermeddling with religious institutions, their doctrines, discipline, or exercises. This results not only from the provision that no law shall be made respecting the establishment or free exercise of religion, but from that also which reserves to the states the powers not delegated to the United States. Certainly, no power to prescribe any religious exercise or to assume authority in religious discipline has been delegated to the General Government. It must then rest with the states, as far as it can be in any human authority."
--Thomas Jefferson to Samuel Miller, 1808. ME 11:428

"In matters of religion, I have considered that its free exercise is placed by the Constitution independent of the powers of the general government. I have therefore undertaken on no occasion to prescribe the religious exercises suited to it; but have left them as the Constitution found them, under the direction and discipline of State or Church authorities acknowledged by the several religious societies."
--Thomas Jefferson: 2nd Inaugural Address, 1805. ME 3:378

"To suffer the civil magistrate to intrude his powers into the field of opinion and to restrain the profession or propagation of principles on supposition of their ill tendency is a dangerous fallacy which at once destroys all religious liberty, because he being of course judge of that tendency will make his opinions the rule of judgment and approve or condemn the sentiments of others only as they shall square with or differ from his own." --Thomas Jefferson: Statute for Religious Freedom, 1779. ME 2:302, Papers 2: 546
"It is proposed that I should recommend, not prescribe, a day of fasting and prayer. That is, that I should indirectly assume to the United States an authority over religious exercises which the Constitution has directly precluded them from. It must be meant, too, that this recommendation is to carry some authority and to be sanctioned by some penalty on those who disregard it; not indeed of fine and imprisonment, but of some degree of proscription, perhaps in public opinion. And does the change in the nature of the penalty make the recommendation less a law of conduct for those to whom it is directed?... Civil powers alone have been given to the President of the United States, and no authority to direct the religious exercises of his constituents."
--Thomas Jefferson to Samuel Miller, 1808. ME 11:428

"No man shall be compelled to frequent or support any religious worship, place, or ministry whatsoever, nor shall be enforced, restrained, molested, or burthened in his body or goods, nor... otherwise suffer on account of his religious opinions or belief... All men shall be free to profess and by argument to maintain their opinions in matters of religion, and... the same shall in no wise diminish, enlarge, or affect their civil capacities."
--Thomas Jefferson: Statute for Religious Freedom, 1779. ME 2:302, Papers 2:546

Regarding Religion Meddling with Government

"Whenever... preachers, instead of a lesson in religion, put [their congregation] off with a discourse on the Copernican system, on chemical affinities, on the construction of government, or the characters or conduct of those administering it, it is a breach of contract, depriving their audience of the kind of service for which they are salaried, and giving them, instead of it, what they did not want, or, if wanted, would rather seek from better sources in that particular art of science."
--Thomas Jefferson to P. H. Wendover, 1815. ME 14:281

"I do not know that it is a duty to disturb by missionaries the religion and peace of other countries, who may think themselves bound to extinguish by fire and fagot the heresies to which we give the name of conversions, and quote our own example for it. Were the Pope, or his holy allies, to send in mission to us some thousands of Jesuit priests to convert us to their orthodoxy, I suspect that we should deem and treat it as a national aggression on our peace and faith."
--Thomas Jefferson to Michael Megear, 1823. ME 15:434
"The clergy, by getting themselves established by law and ingrafted into the machine of government, have been a very formidable engine against the civil and religious rights of man."
--Thomas Jefferson to Jeremiah Moor, 1800.
"I am for freedom of religion, and against all maneuvers to bring about a legal ascendency of one sect over another."
--Thomas Jefferson to Elbridge Gerry, 1799. ME 10:78
"The clergy...believe that any portion of power confided to me [as President] will be exerted in opposition to their schemes. And they believe rightly: for I have sworn upon the altar of God, eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man. But this is all they have to fear from me: and enough, too, in their opinion."
--Thomas Jefferson to Benjamin Rush, 1800. ME 10:173
"Believing... that religion is a matter which lies solely between man and his God, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legitimate powers of government reach actions only, and not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their Legislature should 'make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,' thus building a wall of separation between Church and State."
--Thomas Jefferson to Danbury Baptists, 1802. ME 16:281

"History, I believe, furnishes no example of a priest-ridden people maintaining a free civil government. This marks the lowest grade of ignorance of which their civil as well as religious leaders will always avail themselves for their own purposes."
--Thomas Jefferson to Alexander von Humboldt, 1813. ME 14:21


Regarding Criminal Acts

"The declaration that religious faith shall be unpunished does not give immunity to criminal acts dictated by religious error."
--Thomas Jefferson to James Madison, 1788. ME 7:98

"If anything pass in a religious meeting seditiously and contrary to the public peace, let it be punished in the same manner and no otherwise than as if it had happened in a fair or market."
--Thomas Jefferson: Notes on Religion, 1776. Papers 1:548

"It is time enough for the rightful purposes of civil government, for its officers to interfere [in the propagation of religious teachings] when principles break out into overt acts against peace and good order."
--Thomas Jefferson: Statute for Religious Freedom, 1779. ME 2:302, Papers 2:546

"Whatsoever is lawful in the Commonwealth or permitted to the subject in the ordinary way cannot be forbidden to him for religious uses; and whatsoever is prejudicial to the Commonwealth in their ordinary uses and, therefore, prohibited by the laws, ought not to be permitted to churches in their sacred rites. For instance, it is unlawful in the ordinary course of things or in a private house to murder a child; it should not be permitted any sect then to sacrifice children. It is ordinarily lawful (or temporarily lawful) to kill calves or lambs; they may, therefore, be religiously sacrificed. But if the good of the State required a temporary suspension of killing lambs, as during a siege, sacrifices of them may then be rightfully suspended also. This is the true extent of toleration."
--Thomas Jefferson: Notes on Religion, 1776. Papers 1:547
Primary Source of Quotations


James Madison

"During almost fifteen centuries has the legal establishment of Christianity been on trial. What has been its fruits? More or less, in all places, pride and indolence in the clergy; ignorance and servility in the laity; in both, superstition, bigotry and persecution."
--James Madison, A Memorial and Remonstrance


Regarding State Meddling with Church

"And I have no doubt that every new example will succeed, as every past one has done, in showing that religion and Government will both exist in greater purity, the less they are mixed together."
--James Madison in a letter to Edward Livingston in 1822
"It may not be easy, in every possible case, to trace the line of separation between the rights of religion and the Civil authority with such distinctness as to avoid collisions and doubts on unessential points. The tendency to unsurpastion on one side or the other, or to a corrupting coalition or alliance between them, will best be guarded against by an entire abstinence of the Government from interference in any way whatsoever, beyond the necessity of preserving public order, and protecting each sect against trespasses on its legal rights by others."--James Madison, "James Madison on Religious Liberty"

"To the Baptist Churches on Neal's Greek on Black Creek, North Carolina I have received, fellow-citizens, your address, approving my objection to the Bill containing a grant of public land to the Baptist Church at Salem Meeting House, Mississippi Territory. Having always regarded the practical distinction between Religion and Civil Government as essential to the purity of both, and as guaranteed by the Constitution of the United States, I could not have otherwise discharged my duty on the occasion which presented itself."
--James Madison, Letter to Baptist Churches in North Carolina, June 3, 1811

"Congress should not establish a religion and enforce the legal observation of it by law, nor compel men to worship God in any manner contary to their conscience, or that one sect might obtain a pre-eminence, or two combined together, and establish a religion to which they would compel others to conform."
--James Madison, Annals of Congress, Sat Aug 15th, 1789 pages 730 - 731.


Regarding Church Meddling with State

"The Civil Government, though bereft of everything like an associated hierarchy, possesses the requisite stability and performs its functions with complete success, whilst the number, the industry, and the morality of the priesthood, and the devotion of the people have been manifestly increased by the total separation of the church from the state."
--James Madison

"Strongly guarded as is the separation between religion and & Gov't in the Constitution of the United States the danger of encroachment by Ecclesiastical Bodies, may be illustrated by precedents already furnished in their short history."
--James Madison, 1820

"What influence, in fact, have ecclesiastical establishments had on society? In some instances they have been seen to erect a spiritual tyranny on the ruins of the civil authority; on many instances they have been seen upholding the thrones of political tyranny; in no instance have they been the guardians of the liberties of the people. Rulers who wish to subvert the public liberty may have found an established clergy convenient auxiliaries. A just government, instituted to secure and perpetuate it, needs them not."
--James Madison

"The number, the industry, and the morality of the priesthood, and the devotion of the people have been manifestly increased by the total separation of the church from the state."
--James Madison, 1819

"The purpose of separation of church and state is to keep forever from these shores the ceaseless strife that has soaked the soil of Europe in blood for centuries."
--James Madison, 1803
Sources
http://earlyamerica.com/review/summer97/secular.html
http://candst.tripod.com/tnppage/qmadison.htm
http://atheism.about.com/library/quo...q_JMadison.htm


Thomas Paine

"I do not believe in the creed professed by the Jewish Church, by the Roman Church, by the Greek Church, by the Turkish Church, by the Protestant Church, nor by any church that I know of. My own mind is my own church." (Richard Emery Roberts, ed. "Excerpts from The Age of Reason". Selected Writings of Thomas Paine.

Regarding State Meddling with Church

"As to religion, I hold it to be the indispensable duty of all government, to protect all conscientious professors thereof, and I know of no other business which government hath to do therewith. . . ."
---Thomas Paine, "Common Sense", 1776


Regarding Church Meddling with State

"Persecution is not an original feature in any religion; but it is always the strongly marked feature of all law-religions, or religions established by law."
--Thomas Paine, The Rights of Man, 1791

"Soon after I had published the pamphlet COMMON SENSE, in America, I saw the exceeding probability that a revolution in the system of government would be followed by a revolution in the system of religion. The adulterous connection of church and state, wherever it had taken place, whether Jewish, Christian, or Turkish, had so effectually prohibited, by pains and penalties, every discussion upon established creeds, and upon first principles of religion, that until the system of government should be changed, those subjects could not be brought fairly and openly before the world; but that whenever this should be done, a revolution in the system of religion would follow. Human inventions and priest-craft would be detected; and man would return to the pure, unmixed, and unadulterated belief of one God, and no more."
--Thomas Paine, The Age of Reason, 1794

"EVERY national church or religion has established itself by pretending some special mission from God, communicated to certain individuals. The Jews have their Moses; the Christians their Jesus Christ, their apostles and saints; and the Turks their Mahomet; as if the way to God was not open to every man alike.

"Each of those churches shows certain books, which they call revelation, or the Word of God. The Jews say that their Word of God was given by God to Moses face to face; the Christians say, that their Word of God came by divine inspiration; and the Turks say, that their Word of God (the Koran) was brought by an angel from heaven. Each of those churches accuses the other of unbelief; and, for my own part, I disbelieve them all."
--Thomas Paine, The Age of Reason, 1794

"The Church was resolved to have a New Testament, and as, after the lapse of more than three hundred years, no handwriting could be proved or disproved, the Church, which like former impostors had then gotten possession of the State, had everything its own way. It invented creeds, such as that called the Apostle's Creed, the Nicean Creed, the Athanasian Creed, and out of the loads of rubbish that were presented it voted four to be Gospels, and others to be Epistles, as we now find them arranged."
--Thomas Paine

But Hey, Don't Hold Back.

"The age of ignorance commenced with the Christian system."--Thomas Paine, 2000 Years of Disbelief

"I do not believe in the creed professed by the Jewish Church, by the Roman Church, by the Greek Church, by the Turkish Church, by the Protestant Church, not by any Church that I know of. My own mind is my own Church."
--Thomas Paine, Excerpts from The Age of Reason: Selected Writings of Thomas Paine, edited by Richard Emery Robers, NY Everybody's Vacation Publishing Co, 1945, p.342

"All national institutions of churches, whether Jewish, Christian, or Turkish, appear to me no other than human inventions, set up to terrify and enslave mankind, and monopolize power and profit."
--Thomas Paine, The Age of Reason

"People in general do not know what wickedness there is in this pretended word of God. Brought up in habits of superstition, they take it for granted that the Bible is true, and that it is good; they permit themselves not to doubt of it, and they carry the ideas they form of the benevolence of the Almighty to the book which they have been taught to believe was written by his authority. Good heavens! it is quite another thing; it is a book of lies, wickedness, and blasphemy; for what can be greater blasphemy than to ascribe the wickedness of man to the orders of the Almighty?"
---Thomas Paine, The Age of Reason

"There is scarcely any part of science, or anything in nature, which those imposters and blasphemers of science, called priests, as well Christians as Jews, have not, at some time or other, perverted, or sought to pervert to the purpose of superstition and falsehood."
-- Thomas Paine


"Yet this is trash that the Church imposes upon the world as the Word of God; this is the collection of lies and contradictions called the Holy Bible! this is the rubbish called Revealed Religion!"
-- Thomas Paine



Sources

http://www.thomaspaine.org/Archives/AOR1.html
http://www.atheism.org/~godlessheathen/Founders.html
http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Thomas_Paine
http://www.thomaspaine.org/contents.html
http://paganinfo.50g.com/quotes.htm

 

[PostmodernProph]

Your gawds creating evil is a function of the genesis fable.

explain how the "genesis fable" functions to show God creating a thing called "evil"......

Isaiah 45:7King James Version (KJV)
I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things.

lol....get a more accurate translation.....
I form the light and create darkness
I bring prosperity and create disaster;
I, the Lord, do all these things.
Isaiah 45 NIV - This is what the LORD says to his - Bible Gateway

So you can change the words to whatever you want. My translation has been the official version for 400 years, what week was yours fabricated?

your translation contains hundreds of thousands of recognized translation errors which were corrected in the revised KJV translations....almost all of the corrections are minor.....until some weakminded atheist comes along and tries to build an entire argument on one of them......then they are minor AND amusing.....

NKJV
I form the light and create darkness,
I make peace and create calamity;
I, the Lord, do all these things.’

RSV
I form light and create darkness,
I make weal and create woe,
I am the Lord, who do all these things.

 

[PostmodernProph]

don't be a chicken, Hollie....if you think you have an answer to the question just blurt it out......we won't make fun of you......much.......

You're welcome to read what I posted in the thread. Laziness on your part is not my problem.

refusing to answer is your problem.....

Not when I've already written out the explanation in this thread.

you haven't written out the answer to MY question.....

It's in this thread. You were told more than once.

what a fucking joke......

 

[PostmodernProph]

Your gawds creating evil is a function of the genesis fable.

explain how the "genesis fable" functions to show God creating a thing called "evil"......

Isaiah 45:7King James Version (KJV)
I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things.

lol....get a more accurate translation.....
I form the light and create darkness
I bring prosperity and create disaster;
I, the Lord, do all these things.
Isaiah 45 NIV - This is what the LORD says to his - Bible Gateway

How interesting that a pick and choose religionist has pick and choose bibles.

its even more interesting that you claim the Bible says something but won't point out where it says it......

and that atheists cling to quotes that everyone else acknowledge as translation errors......

 

[PostmodernProph]

Isaiah 45:7King James Version (KJV)
I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things.

.

I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things.

the "honest" words of the present ruler of the Everlasting ... all hail the Almighty. .

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This is where one poster will Google a term and find a single verse and claim they have understanding. Sorry to inform you of this but you have none. What makes you think you do when understanding to you is as sunlight is to a cave dweller. I will now give an explanation to which Hollie will do her thing, 'it's in the thread somewhere', Breezy will do thing, can't quite decipher that one, and eddie will do his thing, Google.

God is a terrible God. He says so. Is God a terrible God? Depends on who you are. God does evil. He says so. Does God do evil? Depends on who you are. If you have knowledge of good and evil you will know evil when you see it. If you have understanding of evil you will know who you are.

I gave you a detailed examination of the errors, inconsistencies and fraud that litters the Genesis fable. You very nearly suffered a meltdown.

Because you're not emotionally or intellectually prepared to confront the issues presented to you, you should consider avoiding these threads.

Job 24:8 They are wet with the showers of the mountains, and embrace the rock for want of a shelter.

Job 24:8.1 thou drink'eth the Kool-Aid and embrace'eth the horror for want'eth of religious fundamentalism'eth.

typical atheist bible translation......

 

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You're welcome to read what I posted in the thread. Laziness on your part is not my problem.

refusing to answer is your problem.....

Not when I've already written out the explanation in this thread.

you haven't written out the answer to MY question.....

It's in this thread. You were told more than once.

what a fucking joke......

Quick! Someone find out who has high-jacked Postmodern's account!!!