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the manager of the Mall began his job TWO YEARS after the watch list on Roy Moore was put out and the Manager said he had no records from before he started.Women making unproven claims is not evidence in court. As far as her telling others in her family about it, same holds there. She could have easily told them to say that she told them about it years ago. No evidence.
Speaking in the context of court, Oral Testimony is evidence.
"Oral testimony is the oldest kind of evidence. The oral testimony of witnesses can exclude or supplement documentary evidence. Under the U.S. law almost anyone can be a witness. The parties to the case, experts, even children, and convicted felons can testify."
And they told others that just "family". Then there are other instances of mall employees coming forward and police that had to watch Moore around cheerleaders at games. All of this oral testimony will all come in as evidence and will be weighed as part of determining the credibility of the acursors claims.
Oral Testimony Law and Legal Definition | USLegal, Inc.
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Which would easily be dismissed because the manager of the mall stated he was unaware of any ban on Moore. So how could these police officers testify that they had to watch Moore without the management knowing about it?
Age of consent is 16. What's the problem> Just because you don't like it means jack shit.
Bill Maher was maybe correct when he quipped that in Alabama, a HS senior is regarded as a MILF.
And to prove Malice with the press, you have to prove that the paper intentionally printed an article that was not true.... and that will not be proved, because the legitimate press has to have all kinds of back up and sources for their articles before their articles go to print....
Well thanks, but this ruling was about the media and freedom of press protections. Also, it didn't totally exclude lawsuits against the press, only that "malice" had to be proven in false reporting.
It's a pretty hghi hurdle that is rarely won if at all by a famous or political figure.... from what I have read on it....
If he doesn't, it's an admission that it's all true.YEP, I don't blame him one bit. Time to take legal action against these gold digger political feminists and put them where they belong, in the kennel or jail.
Judge Roy Moore Weighs Legal Action Against Accusers As Allegations Fall Apart
And to prove Malice with the press, you have to prove that the paper intentionally printed an article that was not true.... and that will not be proved, because the legitimate press has to have all kinds of back up and sources for their articles before their articles go to print....
Well thanks, but this ruling was about the media and freedom of press protections. Also, it didn't totally exclude lawsuits against the press, only that "malice" had to be proven in false reporting.
It's a pretty hghi hurdle that is rarely won if at all by a famous or political figure.... from what I have read on it....
the manager of the Mall began his job TWO YEARS after the watch list on Roy Moore was put out and the Manager said he had no records from before he started.Women making unproven claims is not evidence in court. As far as her telling others in her family about it, same holds there. She could have easily told them to say that she told them about it years ago. No evidence.
Speaking in the context of court, Oral Testimony is evidence.
"Oral testimony is the oldest kind of evidence. The oral testimony of witnesses can exclude or supplement documentary evidence. Under the U.S. law almost anyone can be a witness. The parties to the case, experts, even children, and convicted felons can testify."
And they told others that just "family". Then there are other instances of mall employees coming forward and police that had to watch Moore around cheerleaders at games. All of this oral testimony will all come in as evidence and will be weighed as part of determining the credibility of the acursors claims.
Oral Testimony Law and Legal Definition | USLegal, Inc.
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Which would easily be dismissed because the manager of the mall stated he was unaware of any ban on Moore. So how could these police officers testify that they had to watch Moore without the management knowing about it?
the Mall Manager that was there before this Mall Manager is who would need to be found and questioned on it....if he is alive....?
And to prove Malice with the press, you have to prove that the paper intentionally printed an article that was not true.... and that will not be proved, because the legitimate press has to have all kinds of back up and sources for their articles before their articles go to print....
Well thanks, but this ruling was about the media and freedom of press protections. Also, it didn't totally exclude lawsuits against the press, only that "malice" had to be proven in false reporting.
It's a pretty hghi hurdle that is rarely won if at all by a famous or political figure.... from what I have read on it....
From what I read the so-called officers said they did not want their names revealed. I find it hard to believe that if a court case took place, they would be willing to come forward.
If he doesn't, it's an admission that it's all true.YEP, I don't blame him one bit. Time to take legal action against these gold digger political feminists and put them where they belong, in the kennel or jail.
Judge Roy Moore Weighs Legal Action Against Accusers As Allegations Fall Apart
I don't know why, but that is what the manager said...he didn't have the records from that time...the manager of the Mall began his job TWO YEARS after the watch list on Roy Moore was put out and the Manager said he had no records from before he started.Women making unproven claims is not evidence in court. As far as her telling others in her family about it, same holds there. She could have easily told them to say that she told them about it years ago. No evidence.
Speaking in the context of court, Oral Testimony is evidence.
"Oral testimony is the oldest kind of evidence. The oral testimony of witnesses can exclude or supplement documentary evidence. Under the U.S. law almost anyone can be a witness. The parties to the case, experts, even children, and convicted felons can testify."
And they told others that just "family". Then there are other instances of mall employees coming forward and police that had to watch Moore around cheerleaders at games. All of this oral testimony will all come in as evidence and will be weighed as part of determining the credibility of the acursors claims.
Oral Testimony Law and Legal Definition | USLegal, Inc.
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Which would easily be dismissed because the manager of the mall stated he was unaware of any ban on Moore. So how could these police officers testify that they had to watch Moore without the management knowing about it?
the Mall Manager that was there before this Mall Manager is who would need to be found and questioned on it....if he is alive....?
How could a new manager not have records before he started? Of course he had access to all records; especially if those records had bans in them.
I don't know why, but that is what the manager said...he didn't have the records from that time...the manager of the Mall began his job TWO YEARS after the watch list on Roy Moore was put out and the Manager said he had no records from before he started.Women making unproven claims is not evidence in court. As far as her telling others in her family about it, same holds there. She could have easily told them to say that she told them about it years ago. No evidence.
Speaking in the context of court, Oral Testimony is evidence.
"Oral testimony is the oldest kind of evidence. The oral testimony of witnesses can exclude or supplement documentary evidence. Under the U.S. law almost anyone can be a witness. The parties to the case, experts, even children, and convicted felons can testify."
And they told others that just "family". Then there are other instances of mall employees coming forward and police that had to watch Moore around cheerleaders at games. All of this oral testimony will all come in as evidence and will be weighed as part of determining the credibility of the acursors claims.
Oral Testimony Law and Legal Definition | USLegal, Inc.
>>>>
Which would easily be dismissed because the manager of the mall stated he was unaware of any ban on Moore. So how could these police officers testify that they had to watch Moore without the management knowing about it?
the Mall Manager that was there before this Mall Manager is who would need to be found and questioned on it....if he is alive....?
How could a new manager not have records before he started? Of course he had access to all records; especially if those records had bans in them.
uhm, yeaIf he doesn't, it's an admission that it's all true.YEP, I don't blame him one bit. Time to take legal action against these gold digger political feminists and put them where they belong, in the kennel or jail.
Judge Roy Moore Weighs Legal Action Against Accusers As Allegations Fall Apart
Wrong.
uhm, yeaIf he doesn't, it's an admission that it's all true.YEP, I don't blame him one bit. Time to take legal action against these gold digger political feminists and put them where they belong, in the kennel or jail.
Judge Roy Moore Weighs Legal Action Against Accusers As Allegations Fall Apart
Wrong.
If he won't, it's only b/c he did it and a lose in court would prove it.
Yea, he must make a prime example out of them. If he doesn't, that they will keep on walking all over him throughout his whole terms in office. But Clinton's news network will try to push out there narrative, that it is okay for a sitting Senator to sue someone. Trying to stop Senator Moore from suing his accusers. If Rand Paul doesn't sue his attacker, that means that he is a shill for the lefties.YEP, I don't blame him one bit. Time to take legal action against these gold digger political feminists and put them where they belong, in the kennel or jail.
Judge Roy Moore Weighs Legal Action Against Accusers As Allegations Fall Apart
YEP, I don't blame him one bit. Time to take legal action against these gold digger political feminists and put them where they belong, in the kennel or jail.
Judge Roy Moore Weighs Legal Action Against Accusers As Allegations Fall Apart
ok, so I googled it to see what I could find out...I don't know why, but that is what the manager said...he didn't have the records from that time...the manager of the Mall began his job TWO YEARS after the watch list on Roy Moore was put out and the Manager said he had no records from before he started.Speaking in the context of court, Oral Testimony is evidence.
"Oral testimony is the oldest kind of evidence. The oral testimony of witnesses can exclude or supplement documentary evidence. Under the U.S. law almost anyone can be a witness. The parties to the case, experts, even children, and convicted felons can testify."
And they told others that just "family". Then there are other instances of mall employees coming forward and police that had to watch Moore around cheerleaders at games. All of this oral testimony will all come in as evidence and will be weighed as part of determining the credibility of the acursors claims.
Oral Testimony Law and Legal Definition | USLegal, Inc.
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Which would easily be dismissed because the manager of the mall stated he was unaware of any ban on Moore. So how could these police officers testify that they had to watch Moore without the management knowing about it?
the Mall Manager that was there before this Mall Manager is who would need to be found and questioned on it....if he is alive....?
How could a new manager not have records before he started? Of course he had access to all records; especially if those records had bans in them.
I believe he meant he didn't have any records showing that Moore was banned. He did say however that he had some memos, but didn't elaborate on what they were.
ok, so I googled it to see what I could find out...I don't know why, but that is what the manager said...he didn't have the records from that time...the manager of the Mall began his job TWO YEARS after the watch list on Roy Moore was put out and the Manager said he had no records from before he started.Which would easily be dismissed because the manager of the mall stated he was unaware of any ban on Moore. So how could these police officers testify that they had to watch Moore without the management knowing about it?
the Mall Manager that was there before this Mall Manager is who would need to be found and questioned on it....if he is alive....?
How could a new manager not have records before he started? Of course he had access to all records; especially if those records had bans in them.
I believe he meant he didn't have any records showing that Moore was banned. He did say however that he had some memos, but didn't elaborate on what they were.
Was Roy Moore Banned from a Shopping Mall for Harassing Teen Girls?
Mall representatives say they don't have records from the time frame in question.
On 13 November 2017, The New Yorker reported, based on interviews with multiple local sources, that Alabama Senate candidate and twice-removed state Supreme Court judge Roy Moore had been banned from the mall in Gadsden, Alabama because of his predatory behavior toward young girls.
The report, however, is based on sources recalling a rumor, in some cases. Those rumors have been corroborated by news reports of accusations leveled at Moore by at least nine women who were in their teens and twenties at the time.
Mall officials told us they are not in possession of records that would identify who was banned in the late 1970s and 1980s. A Gadsden Mall spokeswoman told us:
We don’t have any records that date back that far.
When we called mall security, the worker who answered the phone told us the same thing.
The mall, which opened in 1974, has come under the management of CBL Properties in recent years. In the 1980s, it had been the popular spot for youngsters, according to the New Yorker. Teens would often meet and socialize there without their parents. Per New Yorker reporter Charles Bethea:
This past weekend, I spoke or messaged with more than a dozen people—including a major political figure in the state—who told me that they had heard, over the years, that Moore had been banned from the mall because he repeatedly badgered teen-age girls. Some say that they heard this at the time, others in the years since. These people include five members of the local legal community, two cops who worked in the town, several people who hung out at the mall in the early eighties, and a number of former mall employees. (A request for comment from the Moore campaign was not answered.) Several of them asked that I leave their names out of this piece. The stories that they say they’ve heard for years have been swirling online in the days since the Post published its report. “Sources tell me Moore was actually banned from the Gadsden Mall and the YMCA for his inappropriate behavior of soliciting sex from young girls,” the independent Alabama journalist Glynn Wilson wrote on his Web site on Sunday, declining to divulge sources
Teresa Jones, a deputy district attorney for Etowah County in the early eighties, told CNN last week that “it was common knowledge that Roy dated high-school girls.” Jones told me that she couldn’t confirm the alleged mall banning, but said, “It’s a rumor I’ve heard for years.”
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[Former mall worker Greg] Legat says that he saw Moore there a few times, even though his understanding then was that he had already been banned. “It started around 1979, I think,” Legat said. “I know the ban was still in place when I got there.” Legat recalled a Gadsden police officer named J. D. Thomas, now retired, who worked security at the mall. “J. D. was a fixture there, when I was working at the store,” Legat said. “He really looked after the kids there. He was a good guy. J. D. told me, ‘If you see Roy, let me know. He’s banned from the mall.’ ” Legat recalled Thomas telling him, “If you see Moore here, tell me. I’ll take care of him.’ ”
Moore has denied the allegations against him and his supporters have been quick to try and discredit them. On 16 November 2017, Breitbart.com, a right-wing media outlet that sent two writers to Alabama in a rather anti-climactic attempt to find holes in the accusers’ allegations, regurgitated a local news story that reported now-86-year-old Barnes Boyle, the mall’s manager in the 1980s, denied Moore was banned. But a former mall worker, Becky Gray, told ABC News she believes she got Moore banned by complaining to her manager about his “creepy” advances toward her.
The story in The New Yorker seems to track with the accounts of women quoted in the 9 November 2017 Washington Post report, which originally broke the story. Two of the women, Wendy Miller and Gloria Thacker Deason, aged 14 and 18 respectively at the time, said they originally met Moore at the mall — Miller when she was working there as a Santa’s helper, and Deason when she worked at a jewelry counter there.
Per the Post, the mall was a place where Moore was often seen alone:
According to colleagues and others who knew him at the time, Moore was rarely seen socializing outside work. He spent one season coaching the Gallant Girls, a softball team that his teenage sister had joined, said several women who played on the team. He spent time working out at the Gadsden YMCA, according to people who encountered him there. And he often walked, usually alone, around the newly opened Gadsden Mall — 6 feet tall and well-dressed in slacks and a button-down shirt, say several women who worked there at the time.
Was Roy Moore Banned from a Shopping Mall for Harassing Teen Girls?
