"Global warming"?? We don't have no stinking global warming!.. We have Ice age coming

[healthmyths]

Scientist predicts earth is heading for another Ice Age
Incredibly, British Summer Time officially starts tomorrow but millions of brassed off Brits pining for warmth will have to endure freezing temperatures and biting winds until May.

The misery will continue with daytime temperatures struggling to reach a bracing 5C (41F). The only ray of sunshine, forecasters said, is that it will stay dry.

As if the outlook wasn’t bleak enough already, meteorologists believe the shivering start to 2013 has been the coldest in more than 200 years.

More worryingly, the combination of sub-zero temperatures and heavy snow experienced across much of the country recently could be the prelude to a new Ice Age that will begin next year and last for 200 years.

Russian scientist Dr Habibullo Abdussamatov, of the St Petersburg Pulkovo Astronomical Observatory, painted the Doomsday scenario saying the recent inclement weather simply proved we were heading towards a frozen planet.

Dr Abdussamatov believes Earth was on an “unavoidable advance towards a deep temperature drop”. The last big freeze, known as the Little Ice Age, was between 1650 and 1850.
Scientist predicts earth is heading for another Ice Age | Science & Tech | News | Daily Express

 

[healthmyths]

Just in case some of you that suffer from LOAFB (Lack of a Funny Bone).. here is the reason for the topic title:

BRAND: And in 1974, Mel Brooks used a shorter version of the line in "Blazing Saddles."

(Soundbite of movie, "Blazing Saddles")

Unidentified Man (Actor): (As Bandit) Badges? We don't need no stinking badges.

SMITH: And that's the form that became pop culture gold. On TV, all you have to do is place the word stinking in front of a noun and it brings the funny. John Belushi used it on "Saturday Night Live" as a trick-or-treating bee.

(Soundbite of show, "Saturday Night Live")

Unidentified Man (Actor): (As character) Here's some candy and who has the Unicef box?

Mr. BELUSHI: (As Gigantic Bee) We don't have no stinking Unicef. We are the killer bees!
Correction: 'Stinking Badges' and Movies : NPR

 

[Mr. H.]

Maybe yes, maybe no.

I miss the days when weather was weather at the moment.

Hey look- it's raining. Lawd almighty it be hot. Snow!

I'm so sick and fucking tired of multi-decades forecasting. And I'm sure as hell tired of someone blaming my mere existence on this planet for doing anything that might harm so much as a nematode.

Maybe we all should eat some decent acid and get back to the basics in life.

 

[edthecynic]

Texas climatologist: Global temperatures ?likely? to set a new record this year | SciGuy | a Chron.com blog

The Texas state climatologist — the top climate official in one of the most conservative states in the country — has predicted that this year probably will be the warmest on record.

In his periodic report on Texas weather and crops released this week, Texas A&M University atmospheric scientist John Nielsen-Gammon said:

“Global temperatures have been relatively flat for the past several years. Some people use that information to try to imply that global warming has stopped. But it turns out that the factors causing global warming are still there, it’s just that the El Niño-La Niña cycle has temporarily trended cooler and has partially masked the warming. In the tropical Pacific, there’s actually fairly cold water just below the surface. With a La Niña event, that cold water is drawn all the way up to the surface, and interacts with the atmosphere and causes it to be cooler. If you leave the refrigerator door open, the room will be a little cooler. If my forecast is correct, and there’s no La Niña to hide the underlying warming trend, global surface temperatures are likely to increase and set a new record this year.”

He may well be right.

A quick check of the 10 warmest years on record, based upon data going back to 1880, shows that 2010 was the warmest year on record, followed by 2005. Last year was the 10th warmest.

The last two years, as shown in the chart below, were La Nina years so we would expect them to be a bit cooler. The most recent El Nino year, 2010, was the warmest overall year on record.

The significance of this prediction is that it’s coming from Nielsen-Gammon, who was appointed by George W. Bush back in 2000 when he was still the governor. He has continued to serve under Gov. Rick Perry for the last 12 years.

 

[buckeye45_73]

I love the mocking of global warming.....but people cant predict next week....stop this bullshit....this is the same crap we here about govt programs costing $1 billion in 10 years and end up at $1 trillion.......stay within 5 years....

 

[Lakhota]

Cons are whistling past the graveyard...

James Hansen: The One Thing We Should Be Doing to Prevent Catastrophic Climate Change

 

[healthmyths]

Cons are whistling past the graveyard...

James Hansen: The One Thing We Should Be Doing to Prevent Catastrophic Climate Change

I found this comment from the above source by Hansen very interesting for several reasons.
"So you can just have a carbon fee which we suggest, for example, should be 10 dollars a ton to start with and increase year-by-year.
The money that's collected should be distributed 100 percent back to the public, to all legal residents, in equal amount.
That way people would have the resources needed to make changes over coming years. "

A) Who pays the $10 tax.. the generators of CO2.
B) Who pays the generators of CO2. The public
C) Who collects the $10.00 tax. The government.
D) 100% returned to who? The public.

Sounds like a circle jerk!
SO...Hansen the naive ignorant out of touch idiot how does all this $10/ton circle jerking get done?
I mean are there people that will track CO2 emissions and do it without a salary? Who pays their meals,living expenses?
Or how about the people that collect the $10? They doing it for free?

OH... that's right it's the "Government" that will manage it.. for FREE!

The other point is Hansen either is ignorant or doesn't want to share
"The U.S. landscape acts as a net carbon sink—it sequesters more carbon than it emits.
Two types of analyses confirm this:
1) atmospheric, or top-down, methods that look at changes in CO2 concentrations; and
2) land-based, or bottom-up, methods that incorporate on-the-ground inventories or plot measurements.
Net sequestration (i.e., the difference between carbon gains and losses) in U.S. forests, urban trees and agricultural soils totaled almost 840 teragrams (Tg) of CO2 equivalent (or about 230 Tg or million metric tons of carbon equivalent) in 2001 (Inventory of U.S. Greenhouse Gas Emissions and Sinks).
This offsets approximately 15% of total U.S. CO2 emissions from the energy, transportation and other sectors. Net carbon sequestration in the forest sector in 2005 offset 10% of U.S. CO2 emissions. In the near future, we project that U.S. forests will continue to sequester carbon at a rate similar to that in recent years. Based on a comparison of our estimates to a compilation of land-based estimates of non-forest carbon
sinks from the literature, we estimate that the conterminous U.S. annually sequesters 149–330 Tg C year1. Forests, urban trees, and wood
products are responsible for 65–91% of this sink.

http://www.ncrs.fs.fed.us/pubs/jrnl/2007/nrs_2007_woodbury_001.pdf

In other words the USA has enough CO2 absorbing capacity to convert ALL the USA emissions Plus 15% more!
Shouldn't the USA get a CREDIT????

 

[Freewill]

Scientist predicts earth is heading for another Ice Age
Incredibly, British Summer Time officially starts tomorrow but millions of brassed off Brits pining for warmth will have to endure freezing temperatures and biting winds until May.

The misery will continue with daytime temperatures struggling to reach a bracing 5C (41F). The only ray of sunshine, forecasters said, is that it will stay dry.

As if the outlook wasn’t bleak enough already, meteorologists believe the shivering start to 2013 has been the coldest in more than 200 years.

More worryingly, the combination of sub-zero temperatures and heavy snow experienced across much of the country recently could be the prelude to a new Ice Age that will begin next year and last for 200 years.

Russian scientist Dr Habibullo Abdussamatov, of the St Petersburg Pulkovo Astronomical Observatory, painted the Doomsday scenario saying the recent inclement weather simply proved we were heading towards a frozen planet.

Dr Abdussamatov believes Earth was on an “unavoidable advance towards a deep temperature drop”. The last big freeze, known as the Little Ice Age, was between 1650 and 1850.
Scientist predicts earth is heading for another Ice Age | Science & Tech | News | Daily Express

Has the Gulf stream cooled?

 

[Freewill]

Just in case some of you that suffer from LOAFB (Lack of a Funny Bone).. here is the reason for the topic title:

BRAND: And in 1974, Mel Brooks used a shorter version of the line in "Blazing Saddles."

(Soundbite of movie, "Blazing Saddles")

Unidentified Man (Actor): (As Bandit) Badges? We don't need no stinking badges.

SMITH: And that's the form that became pop culture gold. On TV, all you have to do is place the word stinking in front of a noun and it brings the funny. John Belushi used it on "Saturday Night Live" as a trick-or-treating bee.

(Soundbite of show, "Saturday Night Live")

Unidentified Man (Actor): (As character) Here's some candy and who has the Unicef box?

Mr. BELUSHI: (As Gigantic Bee) We don't have no stinking Unicef. We are the killer bees!
Correction: 'Stinking Badges' and Movies : NPR

Here is where the sound bite orginated, Treasure of the Sierra Madre:

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VqomZQMZQCQ]We don't need no stinking badges! - YouTube[/ame]

 

[Old Rocks]

Dr. James Hansen. BA in mathematics and physics. MA in astronomy. Phd in physics.

Considered to be the foremost atmospheric physicist in the world. In 1981, he published this article.

Climate Impact of Increasing Atmospheric Carbon Dioxide

The global temperature rose by 0.2°C between the middle 1960's and 1980, yielding a warming of 0.4°C in the past century. This temperature increase is consistent with the calculated greenhouse effect due to measured increases of atmospheric carbon dioxide. Variations of volcanic aerosols and possibly solar luminosity appear to be primary causes of observed fluctuations about the mean trend of increasing temperature. It is shown that the anthropogenic carbon dioxide warming should emerge from the noise level of natural climate variability by the end of the century, and there is a high probability of warming in the 1980's. Potential effects on climate in the 21st century include the creation of drought-prone regions in North America and central Asia as part of a shifting of climatic zones, erosion of the West Antarctic ice sheet with a consequent worldwide rise in sea level, and opening of the fabled Northwest Passage.

Now in that article, there were some graphs and predictions that many considered alarmist at the time. His estimates then were actually about 30% lower than what actually has happened.

RealClimate: Evaluating a 1981 temperature projection

To conclude, a projection from 1981 for rising temperatures in a major science journal, at a time that the temperature rise was not yet obvious in the observations, has been found to agree well with the observations since then, underestimating the observed trend by about 30%, and easily beating naive predictions of no-change or a linear continuation of trends. It is also a nice example of a statement based on theory that could be falsified and up to now has withstood the test. The “global warming hypothesis” has been developed according to the principles of sound science.

 

[Old Rocks]

Cons are whistling past the graveyard...

James Hansen: The One Thing We Should Be Doing to Prevent Catastrophic Climate Change

I found this comment from the above source by Hansen very interesting for several reasons.
"So you can just have a carbon fee which we suggest, for example, should be 10 dollars a ton to start with and increase year-by-year.
The money that's collected should be distributed 100 percent back to the public, to all legal residents, in equal amount.
That way people would have the resources needed to make changes over coming years. "

A) Who pays the $10 tax.. the generators of CO2.
B) Who pays the generators of CO2. The public
C) Who collects the $10.00 tax. The government.
D) 100% returned to who? The public.

Sounds like a circle jerk!
SO...Hansen the naive ignorant out of touch idiot how does all this $10/ton circle jerking get done?
I mean are there people that will track CO2 emissions and do it without a salary? Who pays their meals,living expenses?
Or how about the people that collect the $10? They doing it for free?

OH... that's right it's the "Government" that will manage it.. for FREE!

The other point is Hansen either is ignorant or doesn't want to share
"The U.S. landscape acts as a net carbon sink—it sequesters more carbon than it emits.
Two types of analyses confirm this:
1) atmospheric, or top-down, methods that look at changes in CO2 concentrations; and
2) land-based, or bottom-up, methods that incorporate on-the-ground inventories or plot measurements.
Net sequestration (i.e., the difference between carbon gains and losses) in U.S. forests, urban trees and agricultural soils totaled almost 840 teragrams (Tg) of CO2 equivalent (or about 230 Tg or million metric tons of carbon equivalent) in 2001 (Inventory of U.S. Greenhouse Gas Emissions and Sinks).
This offsets approximately 15% of total U.S. CO2 emissions from the energy, transportation and other sectors. Net carbon sequestration in the forest sector in 2005 offset 10% of U.S. CO2 emissions. In the near future, we project that U.S. forests will continue to sequester carbon at a rate similar to that in recent years. Based on a comparison of our estimates to a compilation of land-based estimates of non-forest carbon
sinks from the literature, we estimate that the conterminous U.S. annually sequesters 149–330 Tg C year1. Forests, urban trees, and wood
products are responsible for 65–91% of this sink.

http://www.ncrs.fs.fed.us/pubs/jrnl/2007/nrs_2007_woodbury_001.pdf

In other words the USA has enough CO2 absorbing capacity to convert ALL the USA emissions Plus 15% more!
Shouldn't the USA get a CREDIT????

You are totally full of shit. That is for the natural landscape, not the fossil fuel emissions. Learn to read.

 

[Freewill]

Texas climatologist: Global temperatures ?likely? to set a new record this year | SciGuy | a Chron.com blog

The Texas state climatologist — the top climate official in one of the most conservative states in the country — has predicted that this year probably will be the warmest on record.

In his periodic report on Texas weather and crops released this week, Texas A&M University atmospheric scientist John Nielsen-Gammon said:

“Global temperatures have been relatively flat for the past several years. Some people use that information to try to imply that global warming has stopped. But it turns out that the factors causing global warming are still there, it’s just that the El Niño-La Niña cycle has temporarily trended cooler and has partially masked the warming. In the tropical Pacific, there’s actually fairly cold water just below the surface. With a La Niña event, that cold water is drawn all the way up to the surface, and interacts with the atmosphere and causes it to be cooler. If you leave the refrigerator door open, the room will be a little cooler. If my forecast is correct, and there’s no La Niña to hide the underlying warming trend, global surface temperatures are likely to increase and set a new record this year.”

He may well be right.

A quick check of the 10 warmest years on record, based upon data going back to 1880, shows that 2010 was the warmest year on record, followed by 2005. Last year was the 10th warmest.

The last two years, as shown in the chart below, were La Nina years so we would expect them to be a bit cooler. The most recent El Nino year, 2010, was the warmest overall year on record.

The significance of this prediction is that it’s coming from Nielsen-Gammon, who was appointed by George W. Bush back in 2000 when he was still the governor. He has continued to serve under Gov. Rick Perry for the last 12 years.

What measure is used for the normal temperature since this is a chart not of temperature but of abnormality. What temperature are they using that says it is the correct temperature and why is it selected as the correct temperature. There is much more to the whole discussion then just posting a chart that one thinks proves their point.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Cons are whistling past the graveyard...

James Hansen: The One Thing We Should Be Doing to Prevent Catastrophic Climate Change

Notice how it morphed from "Global Warming" to "Climate Change"

That's not science

 

[Freewill]

More information found here: Sea Ice News: Volume 4 #1 ? Arctic Ice gain sets a new record | Watts Up With That?

 

[Katzndogz]

What James Hansen has to say would be much more important if he wasn't a large investor in Al Gore's carbon credit trading scheme. George Soros also pays Hansen directly to peddle the global warming snake oil.

James Hansen: Global Warming Scientist for Hire | The Right Counterpoints

In 2000 world scientists were convinced that British children would never again see snow.

Snowfalls are now just a thing of the past - Environment - The Independent

12 years later, Britian faced the coldest winter in 100 years.

UK weather forecast: Britain faces coldest winter for 100 years as Big Freeze follows flood | Mail Online

Global warming is a hoax, it was a hoax then it is a hoax now.

 

[Katzndogz]

What James Hansen has to say would be much more important if he wasn't a large investor in Al Gore's carbon credit trading scheme. George Soros also pays Hansen directly to peddle the global warming snake oil.

James Hansen: Global Warming Scientist for Hire | The Right Counterpoints

In 2000 world scientists were convinced that British children would never again see snow.

Snowfalls are now just a thing of the past - Environment - The Independent

12 years later, Britian faced the coldest winter in 100 years.

UK weather forecast: Britain faces coldest winter for 100 years as Big Freeze follows flood | Mail Online

Global warming is a hoax, it was a hoax then it is a hoax now.

 

[jon_berzerk]

Cons are whistling past the graveyard...

James Hansen: The One Thing We Should Be Doing to Prevent Catastrophic Climate Change

Notice how it morphed from "Global Warming" to "Climate Change"

That's not science

two words

"Junk science"

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Cons are whistling past the graveyard...

James Hansen: The One Thing We Should Be Doing to Prevent Catastrophic Climate Change

Notice how it morphed from "Global Warming" to "Climate Change"

That's not science

two words

"Junk science"

Altered data fed through into computer models programmed to solve every set of circumstances with "ZOMG!!! Global Climate Warming Change!!!" is not science

 

[CrusaderFrank]

What James Hansen has to say would be much more important if he wasn't a large investor in Al Gore's carbon credit trading scheme. George Soros also pays Hansen directly to peddle the global warming snake oil.

James Hansen: Global Warming Scientist for Hire | The Right Counterpoints

In 2000 world scientists were convinced that British children would never again see snow.

Snowfalls are now just a thing of the past - Environment - The Independent

12 years later, Britian faced the coldest winter in 100 years.

UK weather forecast: Britain faces coldest winter for 100 years as Big Freeze follows flood | Mail Online

Global warming is a hoax, it was a hoax then it is a hoax now.

2008 Explanation: Its snowing because of Global Warming

2013 Explanation: Its snowing because of Climate Change

 

[healthmyths]

Just in case some of you that suffer from LOAFB (Lack of a Funny Bone).. here is the reason for the topic title:

BRAND: And in 1974, Mel Brooks used a shorter version of the line in "Blazing Saddles."

(Soundbite of movie, "Blazing Saddles")

Unidentified Man (Actor): (As Bandit) Badges? We don't need no stinking badges.

SMITH: And that's the form that became pop culture gold. On TV, all you have to do is place the word stinking in front of a noun and it brings the funny. John Belushi used it on "Saturday Night Live" as a trick-or-treating bee.

(Soundbite of show, "Saturday Night Live")

Unidentified Man (Actor): (As character) Here's some candy and who has the Unicef box?

Mr. BELUSHI: (As Gigantic Bee) We don't have no stinking Unicef. We are the killer bees!
Correction: 'Stinking Badges' and Movies : NPR

Here is where the sound bite orginated, Treasure of the Sierra Madre:

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VqomZQMZQCQ]We don't need no stinking badges! - YouTube[/ame]

Hey thanks... I thought of using that but didn't know if many of readers understand Bogart!