Global warming in action....right before our eyes

Ms Pumpkin Row,

You seem to buy into the contention that an extremely large majority of over 10,000 degreed scientists have all formed a conspiracy to defraud the people of planet Earth. To do so, they have communicated sufficiently to maintain a coherent picture throughout thousands and thousands of peer reviewed studies. They find the same temperatures. They find the same trends. They find the same causes. On hundreds and hundreds of different parameters measured, they are in perfect agreement. They have managed to create a coherent, extremely detailed and fully rational simulacrum of a global process that, you claim, simply does not exist. Amazing work. And through all of that, not a single one of these thousands of scientists, from different nations with different governments, religions, science practices, funding practices... NOT ONE has ever confessed to the conspiracy. NOT ONE has ever slipped up and given it all away. These are some VERY smart and VERY disciplined people Ms Pumpkin Row.

PS: You don't get rich from research grants. Grants pay for the conduct of the research. They are not put in the researcher's pockets. They might help someone keep their job, but so would good work whereas the grand conspiracy would put every one of those thousands of scientists at immediate risk of losing their entire careers and likely facing prosecution.

Yeah... that all makes sense.

Don't take the stupid side in this argument. And the Grand Global Conspiracy is most definitely the stupid side.

“That is to me the central mystery of climate science. It is not a scientific mystery but a human mystery. How does it happen that a whole generation of scientific experts is blind to obvious facts?" ~ Freeman Dyson

No great "mystery" here. "A whole generation of scientific experts" ISN'T "blind to the obvious facts"....instead the once great mathematician and theoretical physicist, but now tragically semi-senile, 92 year old Freeman Dyson, with no education or experience in any part of climate science, IS the one "blind to the obvious facts"

As the rest of the world scientific community can plainly see.

The Danger of Cosmic Genius
 
Ms Pumpkin Row,

You seem to buy into the contention that an extremely large majority of over 10,000 degreed scientists have all formed a conspiracy to defraud the people of planet Earth. To do so, they have communicated sufficiently to maintain a coherent picture throughout thousands and thousands of peer reviewed studies. They find the same temperatures. They find the same trends. They find the same causes. On hundreds and hundreds of different parameters measured, they are in perfect agreement. They have managed to create a coherent, extremely detailed and fully rational simulacrum of a global process that, you claim, simply does not exist. Amazing work. And through all of that, not a single one of these thousands of scientists, from different nations with different governments, religions, science practices, funding practices... NOT ONE has ever confessed to the conspiracy. NOT ONE has ever slipped up and given it all away. These are some VERY smart and VERY disciplined people Ms Pumpkin Row.

PS: You don't get rich from research grants. Grants pay for the conduct of the research. They are not put in the researcher's pockets. They might help someone keep their job, but so would good work whereas the grand conspiracy would put every one of those thousands of scientists at immediate risk of losing their entire careers and likely facing prosecution.

Yeah... that all makes sense.

Don't take the stupid side in this argument. And the Grand Global Conspiracy is most definitely the stupid side.

“That is to me the central mystery of climate science. It is not a scientific mystery but a human mystery. How does it happen that a whole generation of scientific experts is blind to obvious facts?" ~ Freeman Dyson

No great "mystery" here. "A whole generation of scientific experts" ISN'T "blind to the obvious facts"....instead the once great mathematician and theoretical physicist, but now tragically semi-senile, 92 year old Freeman Dyson, with no education or experience in any part of climate science, IS the one "blind to the obvious facts"

As the rest of the world scientific community can plainly see.

The Danger of Cosmic Genius



But nobody is caring what the scientific community is saying.........top climate scientists are even saying it ( see THIS link >>> California Academy of Sciences Driector: "Explaining the science isnt working" )

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These dopes in here have been falling all over themselves explaining the science to us...........for years and years, and renewable energy is still a joke and voters don't give a rats ass about climate change as an election issue!!:oops-28:
 
Ms Pumpkin Row,

You seem to buy into the contention that an extremely large majority of over 10,000 degreed scientists have all formed a conspiracy to defraud the people of planet Earth. To do so, they have communicated sufficiently to maintain a coherent picture throughout thousands and thousands of peer reviewed studies. They find the same temperatures. They find the same trends. They find the same causes. On hundreds and hundreds of different parameters measured, they are in perfect agreement. They have managed to create a coherent, extremely detailed and fully rational simulacrum of a global process that, you claim, simply does not exist. Amazing work. And through all of that, not a single one of these thousands of scientists, from different nations with different governments, religions, science practices, funding practices... NOT ONE has ever confessed to the conspiracy. NOT ONE has ever slipped up and given it all away. These are some VERY smart and VERY disciplined people Ms Pumpkin Row.

PS: You don't get rich from research grants. Grants pay for the conduct of the research. They are not put in the researcher's pockets. They might help someone keep their job, but so would good work whereas the grand conspiracy would put every one of those thousands of scientists at immediate risk of losing their entire careers and likely facing prosecution.

Yeah... that all makes sense.

Don't take the stupid side in this argument. And the Grand Global Conspiracy is most definitely the stupid side.

“That is to me the central mystery of climate science. It is not a scientific mystery but a human mystery. How does it happen that a whole generation of scientific experts is blind to obvious facts?" ~ Freeman Dyson

No great "mystery" here. "A whole generation of scientific experts" ISN'T "blind to the obvious facts"....instead the once great mathematician and theoretical physicist, but now tragically semi-senile, 92 year old Freeman Dyson, with no education or experience in any part of climate science, IS the one "blind to the obvious facts"

As the rest of the world scientific community can plainly see.

The Danger of Cosmic Genius

“Environmentalism has replaced socialism as the leading secular religion,”
 
Not sure but starting to think Thunder is fond of getting smacked upside of the face.....but will give this panty waist credit for showing up all the time to get his clock cleaned.

s0n......you just got pwned again @www.selfknobbyintherear.com :2up:

And now Ms Pumpkin in here to dish out pwnage of her own.............10,000 scientists say hooey to the climate science fraternity bozo's!!:eusa_dance::eusa_dance::eusa_dance:
 
Ms Pumpkin Row,

You seem to buy into the contention that an extremely large majority of over 10,000 degreed scientists have all formed a conspiracy to defraud the people of planet Earth. To do so, they have communicated sufficiently to maintain a coherent picture throughout thousands and thousands of peer reviewed studies. They find the same temperatures. They find the same trends. They find the same causes. On hundreds and hundreds of different parameters measured, they are in perfect agreement. They have managed to create a coherent, extremely detailed and fully rational simulacrum of a global process that, you claim, simply does not exist. Amazing work. And through all of that, not a single one of these thousands of scientists, from different nations with different governments, religions, science practices, funding practices... NOT ONE has ever confessed to the conspiracy. NOT ONE has ever slipped up and given it all away. These are some VERY smart and VERY disciplined people Ms Pumpkin Row.

PS: You don't get rich from research grants. Grants pay for the conduct of the research. They are not put in the researcher's pockets. They might help someone keep their job, but so would good work whereas the grand conspiracy would put every one of those thousands of scientists at immediate risk of losing their entire careers and likely facing prosecution.

Yeah... that all makes sense.

Don't take the stupid side in this argument. And the Grand Global Conspiracy is most definitely the stupid side.

“That is to me the central mystery of climate science. It is not a scientific mystery but a human mystery. How does it happen that a whole generation of scientific experts is blind to obvious facts?" ~ Freeman Dyson

No great "mystery" here. "A whole generation of scientific experts" ISN'T "blind to the obvious facts"....instead the once great mathematician and theoretical physicist, but now tragically semi-senile, 92 year old Freeman Dyson, with no education or experience in any part of climate science, IS the one "blind to the obvious facts"

As the rest of the world scientific community can plainly see.

The Danger of Cosmic Genius


Lmao fruit cake, so you consider the people who study of worm fossils more credible on the climate ?
 
More 'global warning in action, right before our eyes'....

Alberta's unusually early and large fire is just the latest example of a hotter Earth with bigger fires

U.S. news and World Report
May 10, 2016
By SETH BORENSTEIN, AP Science Writer
(excerpts)
WASHINGTON (AP) Alberta's unusually early and large fire is just the latest of many gargantuan fires on an Earth that's grown hotter with more extreme weather. Earlier this year, large wildfires hit spots on opposite ends of the world Tasmania and Oklahoma-Kansas. Last year, Alaska and California pushed the U.S. to a record 10 million acres burned. Massive fires hit Siberia, Mongolia and China last year and Brazil's fire season has increased by a month over the past three decades. It got so bad that in 2009, Australia added a bright red "catastrophic" to its fire warning index.

"The warmer it is, the more fires we get," said Mike Flannigan, a professor of wildland fire at the University of Alberta. Flannigan said the area burned in Canada has doubled since the 1970s "and we think that's due to climate change." Last week, temperatures pushed past 90 degrees Fahrenheit (mid 30s Celsius) in Alberta, which is unusual for May in northern Canada. "The Alberta wildfires are an excellent example of what we're seeing more and more of: warming means snow melts earlier, soils and vegetation dries out earlier, and the fire season starts earlier. It's a train wreck," University of Arizona climate scientist Jonathan Overpeck wrote in an email.

Worldwide, the length of Earth's fire season increased nearly 19 percent from 1979 to 2013, according to a study by Mark Cochrane, a professor of fire ecology at South Dakota State University. Fires had steadily been increasing, but then in the late 1990s and early 2000s, "we've suddenly been hit with lots of these large fires we can't control," Cochrane said. In terms of acreage burned, the worldwide total may be dropping because of better firefighting, but in North America and Siberia "fires have grown quite a bit due to warming," Columbia University climate and ecology scientist Park Williams wrote in an email. "My estimate is that global warming has been responsible for about half of this increase." The U.S. National Academy of Sciences earlier this year in a study determined that "climate warming has resulted in longer fire seasons." For the entire U.S., the 10-year average number of acres burned in wildfires has more than doubled from about 3 million acres in the mid-1980s to 7 million acres now, according to an analysis of government data by The Associated Press. "Globally we are seeing more fires, bigger fires, more severe fires," said Kevin Ryan, a retired U.S. Forest Service scientist.

Flannigan said the area burned in Canada has doubled since the 1970s "and we think that's due to climate change."

That's some serious proof there...........

That is not proof of any kind... cyclical changes in the earth cause great dry areas and burns of massive areas. Not only that, but the behavior of putting out small fires which clear the under brush and dead wood, have not been stopped. This is poor land management practices. When fires do happen now they are quickly out of control due to the fuels which have built up..

One must evaluate the whole problem not just the preconceived blame CAGW meme...
 
FIRES = humans sucking too much fresh water from nature

Solution = massive desalination

Problem = Algore's FRAUD loves the FIRES and is squeezing out all other REAL ENVIRO causes to fund his FRAUD which does NOTHING to help the REAL ENVIRO
 
Indeed, this above birdbrain is actually arguing that human consumption of land based fresh water has nothing to do with fires...

LOL!!!

All this idiot does is cut, paste and parrot. If he cannot parrot it, it doesn't exist, or something like that...
 
Ms Pumpkin Row,

You seem to buy into the contention that an extremely large majority of over 10,000 degreed scientists have all formed a conspiracy to defraud the people of planet Earth. To do so, they have communicated sufficiently to maintain a coherent picture throughout thousands and thousands of peer reviewed studies. They find the same temperatures. They find the same trends. They find the same causes. On hundreds and hundreds of different parameters measured, they are in perfect agreement. They have managed to create a coherent, extremely detailed and fully rational simulacrum of a global process that, you claim, simply does not exist. Amazing work. And through all of that, not a single one of these thousands of scientists, from different nations with different governments, religions, science practices, funding practices... NOT ONE has ever confessed to the conspiracy. NOT ONE has ever slipped up and given it all away. These are some VERY smart and VERY disciplined people Ms Pumpkin Row.

PS: You don't get rich from research grants. Grants pay for the conduct of the research. They are not put in the researcher's pockets. They might help someone keep their job, but so would good work whereas the grand conspiracy would put every one of those thousands of scientists at immediate risk of losing their entire careers and likely facing prosecution.

Yeah... that all makes sense.

Don't take the stupid side in this argument. And the Grand Global Conspiracy is most definitely the stupid side.

“That is to me the central mystery of climate science. It is not a scientific mystery but a human mystery. How does it happen that a whole generation of scientific experts is blind to obvious facts?" ~ Freeman Dyson

No great "mystery" here. "A whole generation of scientific experts" ISN'T "blind to the obvious facts"....instead the once great mathematician and theoretical physicist, but now tragically semi-senile, 92 year old Freeman Dyson, with no education or experience in any part of climate science, IS the one "blind to the obvious facts"

As the rest of the world scientific community can plainly see.

The Danger of Cosmic Genius

Lmao fruit cake, so you consider the people who study of worm fossils more credible on the climate ?

I consider the thousands of climate scientists who accept AGW a better reason to form a conclusion than the crap you've all spewed here arguing to reject it.
 
Ms Pumpkin Row,

You seem to buy into the contention that an extremely large majority of over 10,000 degreed scientists have all formed a conspiracy to defraud the people of planet Earth. To do so, they have communicated sufficiently to maintain a coherent picture throughout thousands and thousands of peer reviewed studies. They find the same temperatures. They find the same trends. They find the same causes. On hundreds and hundreds of different parameters measured, they are in perfect agreement. They have managed to create a coherent, extremely detailed and fully rational simulacrum of a global process that, you claim, simply does not exist. Amazing work. And through all of that, not a single one of these thousands of scientists, from different nations with different governments, religions, science practices, funding practices... NOT ONE has ever confessed to the conspiracy. NOT ONE has ever slipped up and given it all away. These are some VERY smart and VERY disciplined people Ms Pumpkin Row.

PS: You don't get rich from research grants. Grants pay for the conduct of the research. They are not put in the researcher's pockets. They might help someone keep their job, but so would good work whereas the grand conspiracy would put every one of those thousands of scientists at immediate risk of losing their entire careers and likely facing prosecution.

Yeah... that all makes sense.

Don't take the stupid side in this argument. And the Grand Global Conspiracy is most definitely the stupid side.

“That is to me the central mystery of climate science. It is not a scientific mystery but a human mystery. How does it happen that a whole generation of scientific experts is blind to obvious facts?" ~ Freeman Dyson

No great "mystery" here. "A whole generation of scientific experts" ISN'T "blind to the obvious facts"....instead the once great mathematician and theoretical physicist, but now tragically semi-senile, 92 year old Freeman Dyson, with no education or experience in any part of climate science, IS the one "blind to the obvious facts"

As the rest of the world scientific community can plainly see.

The Danger of Cosmic Genius

Lmao fruit cake, so you consider the people who study of worm fossils more credible on the climate ?

I consider the thousands of climate scientists who accept AGW a better reason to form a conclusion than the crap you've all spewed here arguing to reject it.

What crap? The thousands of so called scientist you speak of read the same God damn report and just sign there name..

Oops I let out a little secret didn't I?
 
Ms Pumpkin Row,

You seem to buy into the contention that an extremely large majority of over 10,000 degreed scientists have all formed a conspiracy to defraud the people of planet Earth. To do so, they have communicated sufficiently to maintain a coherent picture throughout thousands and thousands of peer reviewed studies. They find the same temperatures. They find the same trends. They find the same causes. On hundreds and hundreds of different parameters measured, they are in perfect agreement. They have managed to create a coherent, extremely detailed and fully rational simulacrum of a global process that, you claim, simply does not exist. Amazing work. And through all of that, not a single one of these thousands of scientists, from different nations with different governments, religions, science practices, funding practices... NOT ONE has ever confessed to the conspiracy. NOT ONE has ever slipped up and given it all away. These are some VERY smart and VERY disciplined people Ms Pumpkin Row.

PS: You don't get rich from research grants. Grants pay for the conduct of the research. They are not put in the researcher's pockets. They might help someone keep their job, but so would good work whereas the grand conspiracy would put every one of those thousands of scientists at immediate risk of losing their entire careers and likely facing prosecution.

Yeah... that all makes sense.

Don't take the stupid side in this argument. And the Grand Global Conspiracy is most definitely the stupid side.

“That is to me the central mystery of climate science. It is not a scientific mystery but a human mystery. How does it happen that a whole generation of scientific experts is blind to obvious facts?" ~ Freeman Dyson

No great "mystery" here. "A whole generation of scientific experts" ISN'T "blind to the obvious facts"....instead the once great mathematician and theoretical physicist, but now tragically semi-senile, 92 year old Freeman Dyson, with no education or experience in any part of climate science, IS the one "blind to the obvious facts"

As the rest of the world scientific community can plainly see.

The Danger of Cosmic Genius

Lmao fruit cake, so you consider the people who study of worm fossils more credible on the climate ?

I consider the thousands of climate scientists who accept AGW a better reason to form a conclusion than the crap you've all spewed here arguing to reject it.
dude, again with the thousand's number. post up that link of the thousand climate scientists. Are there even that many in the world? I know there are geologists, physicists, engineers, mathematicians, cartoonists and what have you, but climate scientists? name them bubba, I've grown tired of your use of that figure without evidence. We gave you the 30,000 list that supports our side. Now post yours. It's now time.
 
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FIRES = humans sucking too much fresh water from nature

More reality-challenged bullshit from LaDumbshit.

In the real world....

Why Big, Intense Wildfires Are the New Normal
Climate change, untamed vegetation, and development have created a new wildfire landscape.
National Geographic
By Melody Kramer
PUBLISHED AUGUST 30, 2013
mismanaged forests are the reason for intense wildfires.

The mismanagement of the national forests

"This bibliographic record was created by the Tall Timbers Research Station Library and is provided without charge to promote research and education in Fire Ecology. The E.V. Komarek Fire Ecology Database and Thesaurus are the intellectual property of Tall Timbers Research Station, Inc. This record display is provided by FRAMES."

oops more bull stuff.

BTW, anyone from the progressive side wish to challenge this? There are more links concerning mismanaged national forests.
 
Ms Pumpkin Row,

You seem to buy into the contention that an extremely large majority of over 10,000 degreed scientists have all formed a conspiracy to defraud the people of planet Earth. To do so, they have communicated sufficiently to maintain a coherent picture throughout thousands and thousands of peer reviewed studies. They find the same temperatures. They find the same trends. They find the same causes. On hundreds and hundreds of different parameters measured, they are in perfect agreement. They have managed to create a coherent, extremely detailed and fully rational simulacrum of a global process that, you claim, simply does not exist. Amazing work. And through all of that, not a single one of these thousands of scientists, from different nations with different governments, religions, science practices, funding practices... NOT ONE has ever confessed to the conspiracy. NOT ONE has ever slipped up and given it all away. These are some VERY smart and VERY disciplined people Ms Pumpkin Row.

PS: You don't get rich from research grants. Grants pay for the conduct of the research. They are not put in the researcher's pockets. They might help someone keep their job, but so would good work whereas the grand conspiracy would put every one of those thousands of scientists at immediate risk of losing their entire careers and likely facing prosecution.

Yeah... that all makes sense.

Don't take the stupid side in this argument. And the Grand Global Conspiracy is most definitely the stupid side.

“That is to me the central mystery of climate science. It is not a scientific mystery but a human mystery. How does it happen that a whole generation of scientific experts is blind to obvious facts?" ~ Freeman Dyson

No great "mystery" here. "A whole generation of scientific experts" ISN'T "blind to the obvious facts"....instead the once great mathematician and theoretical physicist, but now tragically semi-senile, 92 year old Freeman Dyson, with no education or experience in any part of climate science, IS the one "blind to the obvious facts"

As the rest of the world scientific community can plainly see.

The Danger of Cosmic Genius

Lmao fruit cake, so you consider the people who study of worm fossils more credible on the climate ?

I consider the thousands of climate scientists who accept AGW a better reason to form a conclusion than the crap you've all spewed here arguing to reject it.
dude, again with the thousand's number. post up that link of the thousand climate scientists. Are there even that many in the world? I know there are geologists, physicists, engineers, mathematicians, cartoonists and what have you, but climate scientists? name them bubba, I've grown tired of your use of that figure without evidence. We gave you the 30,000 list that supports our side. Now post yours. It's now time.

Her scientists include the bass fishermen of california...

The basket weaver scientists of India

The worm scientist of America
 
I consider the thousands of climate scientists who accept AGW a better reason to form a conclusion than the crap you've all spewed here arguing to reject it.

What crap? The thousands of so called scientist you speak of read the same God damn report and just sign there name..

Oops I let out a little secret didn't I?

The thousands of scientists I'm speaking about do their own research, get it published in peer reviewed journals. An enormous majority of their results - very close to 100% - support the theory of AGW. They read the research of others. They read the IPCC's assessment report which is an assessment of all that research. Being trained, degreed scientists, they understand the research. Their conclusions, almost to a man, is that, yes indeed, the primary cause of global warming is human GHG emissions and deforestation.

I'm glad to hear you say "What crap". You couldn't find ANY research material to support your claims, could you.
 
I consider the thousands of climate scientists who accept AGW a better reason to form a conclusion than the crap you've all spewed here arguing to reject it.

What crap? The thousands of so called scientist you speak of read the same God damn report and just sign there name..

Oops I let out a little secret didn't I?

The thousands of scientists I'm speaking about do their own research, get it published in peer reviewed journals. An enormous majority of their results - very close to 100% - support the theory of AGW. They read the research of others. They read the IPCC's assessment report which is an assessment of all that research. Being trained, degreed scientists, they understand the research. Their conclusions, almost to a man, is that, yes indeed, the primary cause of global warming is human GHG emissions and deforestation.

I'm glad to hear you say "What crap". You couldn't find ANY research material to support your claims, could you.

Well this is your opportunitie to prove it. My hundred upon hundreds of scientists says you are wrong
 
I consider the thousands of climate scientists who accept AGW a better reason to form a conclusion than the crap you've all spewed here arguing to reject it.

What crap? The thousands of so called scientist you speak of read the same God damn report and just sign there name..

Oops I let out a little secret didn't I?

The thousands of scientists I'm speaking about do their own research, get it published in peer reviewed journals. An enormous majority of their results - very close to 100% - support the theory of AGW. They read the research of others. They read the IPCC's assessment report which is an assessment of all that research. Being trained, degreed scientists, they understand the research. Their conclusions, almost to a man, is that, yes indeed, the primary cause of global warming is human GHG emissions and deforestation.

I'm glad to hear you say "What crap". You couldn't find ANY research material to support your claims, could you.

Crick we all know were your sciencetist get their information from it's not a secrete ...
 
Secrete?

You know nothing about the work of scientists, but since we're talking about scientists of many sorts from almost every nation on the planet, there's not really a damned thing you can tell about them in the way of generalization. The Grand Global Conspiracy is as stupid and irrational as it ever was.

Where is your scientific data? Where is your evidence?
 
You know nothing about the work of scientists


They aren't scientists. They are fraudulent fudgebakers, liars, and taxpayer funded leeches who won't answer the first question of Earth climate change ...

Why does one Earth polar circle, the Antarctic, have 9 times the ice of the other?
 
Certainly, "warming" is not the cause of the fires, since there is none

Google

The warmest year on record is 1934 for the US.

Meanwhile, every incremental human life in Cali consumes 20-25 gallons of freshwater every day, stealing such water from rivers, streams, aquifers, lakes, all finite land based water supplies. When humans drain freshwater from nature, nature gets dry....

Solution - desalination of ocean water, leaving nature's water in nature

Problem with solution - Algore's FRAUD is consuming all the enviro funds and lying/misdiagnosing real enviro problems
Not at all.

NCDC Announces Warmest Year on Record for Contiguous U.S. | National Centers for Environmental Information (NCEI) formerly known as National Climatic Data Center (NCDC)

NCDC Announces Warmest Year on Record for Contiguous U.S.

US_Jan-Dec2012_tempanom_300.jpg



Difference from average annual temperature in 2012 compared to the 1981–2010 average. Map by NOAA climate.gov team. Large versions of annual and monthly maps are available for reuse.
According to NOAA scientists, the average temperature for the contiguous U.S. for 2012 was 55.3°F, which was 3.2°F above the 20th century average and 1.0°F above the previous record from 1998. The year consisted of the fourth warmest winter, a record warm spring, the second warmest summer, and a warmer-than-average autumn. Although the last four months of 2012 did not bring the same unusual warmth as the first 8 months of the year, the September through December temperatures were warm enough for 2012 to remain the record warmest year, by a wide margin.
 

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