Ghouta: (Bandar) Bush Did It (again)!

[LordBrownTrout]

"Ghouta, Syria — As the machinery for a U.S.-led military intervention in Syria gathers pace following last week’s chemical weapons attack, the U.S. and its allies may be targeting the wrong culprit.

"Interviews with people in Damascus and Ghouta, a suburb of the Syrian capital, where the humanitarian agency Doctors Without Borders said at least 355 people had died last week from what it believed to be a neurotoxic agent, appear to indicate as much..."

According to this account partially provided by Dale Gavlak, an AP correspondent based in Jordan for ten years, it was Syrian rebels handling weapons they were completely unfamiliar with that produced an accidental explosion in Ghouta last week:

"The U.S. and others are not interested in examining any contrary evidence, with U.S Secretary of State John Kerry saying Monday that Assad’s guilt was 'a judgment … already clear to the world.'

"However, from numerous interviews with doctors, Ghouta residents, rebel fighters and their families, a different picture emerges. Many believe that certain rebels received chemical weapons via the Saudi intelligence chief, Prince Bandar bin Sultan, and were responsible for carrying out the dealing gas attack.

"'My son came to me two weeks ago asking what I thought the weapons were that he had been asked to carry,' said Abu Abdel-Moneim, the father of a rebel fighting to unseat Assad, who lives in Ghouta.

"Abdel-Moneim said his son and 12 other rebels were killed inside of a tunnel used to store weapons provided by a Saudi militant, known as Abu Ayesha, who was leading a fighting battalion. The father described the weapons as having a 'tube-like structure' while others were like a 'huge gas bottle.'

"Ghouta townspeople said the rebels were using mosques and private houses to sleep while storing their weapons in tunnels."

Bandar Bush strikes again?

EXCLUSIVE: Syrians In Ghouta Claim Saudi-Supplied Rebels Behind Chemical Attack

No. This one is all O. It must be tearing you apart inside. Lol.

I never voted for Bush or Obama, AND I'm completely over "Mission Accomplished"
How about you?

I thought we should have used hussein as a hedge against iran.

 

[dilloduck]

No. This one is all O. It must be tearing you apart inside. Lol.

I never voted for Bush or Obama, AND I'm completely over "Mission Accomplished"
How about you?

I thought we should have used hussein as a hedge against iran.

Wasn't he too much of a threat to the Saudi's to pull that off ?

 

[georgephillip]

"Ghouta, Syria — As the machinery for a U.S.-led military intervention in Syria gathers pace following last week’s chemical weapons attack, the U.S. and its allies may be targeting the wrong culprit.

"Interviews with people in Damascus and Ghouta, a suburb of the Syrian capital, where the humanitarian agency Doctors Without Borders said at least 355 people had died last week from what it believed to be a neurotoxic agent, appear to indicate as much..."

According to this account partially provided by Dale Gavlak, an AP correspondent based in Jordan for ten years, it was Syrian rebels handling weapons they were completely unfamiliar with that produced an accidental explosion in Ghouta last week:

"The U.S. and others are not interested in examining any contrary evidence, with U.S Secretary of State John Kerry saying Monday that Assad’s guilt was 'a judgment … already clear to the world.'

"However, from numerous interviews with doctors, Ghouta residents, rebel fighters and their families, a different picture emerges. Many believe that certain rebels received chemical weapons via the Saudi intelligence chief, Prince Bandar bin Sultan, and were responsible for carrying out the dealing gas attack.

"'My son came to me two weeks ago asking what I thought the weapons were that he had been asked to carry,' said Abu Abdel-Moneim, the father of a rebel fighting to unseat Assad, who lives in Ghouta.

"Abdel-Moneim said his son and 12 other rebels were killed inside of a tunnel used to store weapons provided by a Saudi militant, known as Abu Ayesha, who was leading a fighting battalion. The father described the weapons as having a 'tube-like structure' while others were like a 'huge gas bottle.'

"Ghouta townspeople said the rebels were using mosques and private houses to sleep while storing their weapons in tunnels."

Bandar Bush strikes again?

EXCLUSIVE: Syrians In Ghouta Claim Saudi-Supplied Rebels Behind Chemical Attack

No. This one is all O.

Even O needs a cover for going in. You can't just say " It's all about oil, gas and pipelines".

Can we say it's about petrodollars?

"The phrase petrodollar warfare refers to a hypothesis that one of the driving forces of United States foreign policy has been the status of the United States dollar as the world's dominant reserve currency and as the currency in which oil is priced. The term was coined by William R. Clark, who has written a book with the same title. The phrase oil currency war is sometimes used with the same meaning."

Petrodollar warfare - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Both Saddam and Gaddafi made their last mistake when they attempted to sell their oil without using our dollars; Iran has threatened to sell its oil for gold.

If the US dollar loses its status a the world's global reserve currency, what comes next?

 

[LordBrownTrout]

No. This one is all O.

Even O needs a cover for going in. You can't just say " It's all about oil, gas and pipelines".

Can we say it's about petrodollars?

"The phrase petrodollar warfare refers to a hypothesis that one of the driving forces of United States foreign policy has been the status of the United States dollar as the world's dominant reserve currency and as the currency in which oil is priced. The term was coined by William R. Clark, who has written a book with the same title. The phrase oil currency war is sometimes used with the same meaning."

Petrodollar warfare - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Both Saddam and Gaddafi made their last mistake when they attempted to sell their oil without using our dollars; Iran has threatened to sell its oil for gold.

If the US dollar loses its status a the world's global reserve currency, what comes next?

In seven years the us will overtake the saudi oil fields. We have that much oil and nat gas in proven reserves now. Imagine having a president that had half a brain to capitalize on this. Literally, we can make the ME drown in their oil if we choose.

 

[dilloduck]

No. This one is all O.

Even O needs a cover for going in. You can't just say " It's all about oil, gas and pipelines".

Can we say it's about petrodollars?

"The phrase petrodollar warfare refers to a hypothesis that one of the driving forces of United States foreign policy has been the status of the United States dollar as the world's dominant reserve currency and as the currency in which oil is priced. The term was coined by William R. Clark, who has written a book with the same title. The phrase oil currency war is sometimes used with the same meaning."

Petrodollar warfare - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Both Saddam and Gaddafi made their last mistake when they attempted to sell their oil without using our dollars; Iran has threatened to sell its oil for gold.

If the US dollar loses its status a the world's global reserve currency, what comes next?

Disaster.

Iranian oil bourse - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[dilloduck]

Even O needs a cover for going in. You can't just say " It's all about oil, gas and pipelines".

Can we say it's about petrodollars?

"The phrase petrodollar warfare refers to a hypothesis that one of the driving forces of United States foreign policy has been the status of the United States dollar as the world's dominant reserve currency and as the currency in which oil is priced. The term was coined by William R. Clark, who has written a book with the same title. The phrase oil currency war is sometimes used with the same meaning."

Petrodollar warfare - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Both Saddam and Gaddafi made their last mistake when they attempted to sell their oil without using our dollars; Iran has threatened to sell its oil for gold.

If the US dollar loses its status a the world's global reserve currency, what comes next?

In seven years the us will overtake the saudi oil fields. We have that much oil and nat gas in proven reserves now. Imagine having a president that had half a brain to capitalize on this. Literally, we can make the ME drown in their oil if we choose.

It may all be in the timing. In the mean time we better keep our asses covered and just exert our influence wherever we can, huh? We could get another president with half a brain.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

I never voted for Bush or Obama, AND I'm completely over "Mission Accomplished"
How about you?

I thought we should have used hussein as a hedge against iran.

Wasn't he too much of a threat to the Saudi's to pull that off ?

He was but that could have been used for our advantage because we could have kept him in check.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Can we say it's about petrodollars?

"The phrase petrodollar warfare refers to a hypothesis that one of the driving forces of United States foreign policy has been the status of the United States dollar as the world's dominant reserve currency and as the currency in which oil is priced. The term was coined by William R. Clark, who has written a book with the same title. The phrase oil currency war is sometimes used with the same meaning."

Petrodollar warfare - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Both Saddam and Gaddafi made their last mistake when they attempted to sell their oil without using our dollars; Iran has threatened to sell its oil for gold.

If the US dollar loses its status a the world's global reserve currency, what comes next?

In seven years the us will overtake the saudi oil fields. We have that much oil and nat gas in proven reserves now. Imagine having a president that had half a brain to capitalize on this. Literally, we can make the ME drown in their oil if we choose.

It may all be in the timing. In the mean time we better keep our asses covered and just exert our influence wherever we can, huh? We could get another president with half a brain.

Possibly, but with these last two presidents, I'm not holding my breath.

 

[The2ndAmendment]

You mean you don't' want to send Peace Missiles at the Muslims to show them Libtard tolerance and Love?

you racist

 

[The2ndAmendment]

Can we say it's about petrodollars?[/B]

"The phrase petrodollar warfare refers to a hypothesis that one of the driving forces of United States foreign policy has been the status of the United States dollar as the world's dominant reserve currency and as the currency in which oil is priced. The term was coined by William R. Clark, who has written a book with the same title. The phrase oil currency war is sometimes used with the same meaning."

Petrodollar warfare - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Both Saddam and Gaddafi made their last mistake when they attempted to sell their oil without using our dollars; Iran has threatened to sell its oil for gold.

If the US dollar loses its status a the world's global reserve currency, what comes next?

This is about as true as it gets, however, the Rabbit Hole goes far deeper.

 

[georgephillip]

on the other hand if we don't fight the "long war" our economy crumbles. We're screwed.

If we are killing to prop up the petrodollar and ensure our currency remains the world's reserve currency, our choice would seem to lie between eternal war, another Great Depression, or an entirely new political economy which maintains a wall of separation between private wealth and government. Maybe such an economy could tax war into extinction while providing a guaranteed annual wage to all adults regardless of how many hours of work they choose to engage in?

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Seems like a much better plan to me but I know a few people who might be a little pissed off. It might be to honest for a lot of folks.

No doubt.
There are a few people who won't tolerate a discussion about the purpose of the US economy:

"Douglas claimed there were three possible policy alternatives with respect to the economic system:

"1. The first of these is that it is a disguised Government, of which the primary, though admittedly not the only, object is to impose upon the world a system of thought and action.

"2. The second alternative has a certain similarity to the first, but is simpler. It assumes that the primary objective of the industrial system is the provision of employment.

"3. And the third, which is essentially simpler still, in fact, so simple that it appears entirely unintelligible to the majority, is that the object of the industrial system is merely to provide goods and services.[12]"

Social credit - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Weaning the US economy off eternal war might be the first step to restoring meaningful democracy in this country. Somehow, peace has to become more profitable than war, but that would seem to require a massive redistribution of wealth.

 

[tinydancer]

Bush wanted to bring Western style democracy to the Middle East. Silly man.

BUT Obama on the other hand by removing Mubarak gave Egypt to the Muslim Brotherhood by creating a vacuum.

And in continuing his love affair with radical Islamists, now he wants to give Syria to Al Qaeda's branch al Nusra on a silver platter.

He is really showing his love and adoration of radicals.

 

[georgephillip]

Even O needs a cover for going in. You can't just say " It's all about oil, gas and pipelines".

Can we say it's about petrodollars?

"The phrase petrodollar warfare refers to a hypothesis that one of the driving forces of United States foreign policy has been the status of the United States dollar as the world's dominant reserve currency and as the currency in which oil is priced. The term was coined by William R. Clark, who has written a book with the same title. The phrase oil currency war is sometimes used with the same meaning."

Petrodollar warfare - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Both Saddam and Gaddafi made their last mistake when they attempted to sell their oil without using our dollars; Iran has threatened to sell its oil for gold.

If the US dollar loses its status a the world's global reserve currency, what comes next?

In seven years the us will overtake the saudi oil fields. We have that much oil and nat gas in proven reserves now. Imagine having a president that had half a brain to capitalize on this. Literally, we can make the ME drown in their oil if we choose.

Oil and gas are global commodities; their advantage is measured by control as much as by production. If you believe the current western assault on Syria is directed ultimately at Iran's decision to by-pass the US petrodollar, it seems unlikely any US president would be allowed to risk the dollars reserve currency status regardless of how much oil and gas domestic fraking would produce. IMHO, we're better off putting oil and gas behind us as energy sources.

 

[georgephillip]

Can we say it's about petrodollars?[/B]

"The phrase petrodollar warfare refers to a hypothesis that one of the driving forces of United States foreign policy has been the status of the United States dollar as the world's dominant reserve currency and as the currency in which oil is priced. The term was coined by William R. Clark, who has written a book with the same title. The phrase oil currency war is sometimes used with the same meaning."

Petrodollar warfare - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Both Saddam and Gaddafi made their last mistake when they attempted to sell their oil without using our dollars; Iran has threatened to sell its oil for gold.

If the US dollar loses its status a the world's global reserve currency, what comes next?

This is about as true as it gets, however, the Rabbit Hole goes far deeper.

"In 1973, a deal was struck between Saudi Arabia and the United States in which every barrel of oil purchased from the Saudis would be denominated in U.S. dollars.

"Under this new arrangement, any country that sought to purchase oil from Saudi Arabia would be required to first exchange their own national currency for U.S. dollars.

"In exchange for Saudi Arabia's willingness to denominate their oil sales exclusively in U.S. dollars, the United States offered weapons and protection of their oil fields from neighboring nations, including Israel.<

Preparing for the Collapse of the Petrodollar System | FTMdaily.com

 

[percysunshine]

"In 1973, a deal was struck between Saudi Arabia and the United States in which every barrel of oil purchased from the Saudis would be denominated in U.S. dollars.

"Under this new arrangement, any country that sought to purchase oil from Saudi Arabia would be required to first exchange their own national currency for U.S. dollars.

"In exchange for Saudi Arabia's willingness to denominate their oil sales exclusively in U.S. dollars, the United States offered weapons and protection of their oil fields from neighboring nations, including Israel.<

Preparing for the Collapse of the Petrodollar System | FTMdaily.com

Oil is denominated in US Dollars because we are the largest consumer and importer in the world. Denominating it in dollars makes for the lowest overall transaction cost. If China surpasses us, it will be denominated in Yaun.

 

[georgephillip]

"In 1973, a deal was struck between Saudi Arabia and the United States in which every barrel of oil purchased from the Saudis would be denominated in U.S. dollars.

"Under this new arrangement, any country that sought to purchase oil from Saudi Arabia would be required to first exchange their own national currency for U.S. dollars.

"In exchange for Saudi Arabia's willingness to denominate their oil sales exclusively in U.S. dollars, the United States offered weapons and protection of their oil fields from neighboring nations, including Israel.<

Preparing for the Collapse of the Petrodollar System | FTMdaily.com

Oil is denominated in US Dollars because we are the largest consumer and importer in the world. Denominating it in dollars makes for the lowest overall transaction cost. If China surpasses us, it will be denominated in Yaun.

Should that happen, how would it affect the US inflation rate?

 

[dilloduck]

"In 1973, a deal was struck between Saudi Arabia and the United States in which every barrel of oil purchased from the Saudis would be denominated in U.S. dollars.

"Under this new arrangement, any country that sought to purchase oil from Saudi Arabia would be required to first exchange their own national currency for U.S. dollars.

"In exchange for Saudi Arabia's willingness to denominate their oil sales exclusively in U.S. dollars, the United States offered weapons and protection of their oil fields from neighboring nations, including Israel.<

Preparing for the Collapse of the Petrodollar System | FTMdaily.com

Oil is denominated in US Dollars because we are the largest consumer and importer in the world. Denominating it in dollars makes for the lowest overall transaction cost. If China surpasses us, it will be denominated in Yaun.

Are you saying that OPEC's deal with America that ties oil sales to the dollar is only because America uses more and not because of any deal struck with the Saudis?

 

[percysunshine]

"In 1973, a deal was struck between Saudi Arabia and the United States in which every barrel of oil purchased from the Saudis would be denominated in U.S. dollars.

"Under this new arrangement, any country that sought to purchase oil from Saudi Arabia would be required to first exchange their own national currency for U.S. dollars.

"In exchange for Saudi Arabia's willingness to denominate their oil sales exclusively in U.S. dollars, the United States offered weapons and protection of their oil fields from neighboring nations, including Israel.<

Preparing for the Collapse of the Petrodollar System | FTMdaily.com

Oil is denominated in US Dollars because we are the largest consumer and importer in the world. Denominating it in dollars makes for the lowest overall transaction cost. If China surpasses us, it will be denominated in Yaun.

Should that happen, how would it affect the US inflation rate?

Absent other things changing, I guess the laws of supply and demand would go to work. There would be less demand for dollars and lots of supply, so their value would go down..ie inflation vs. underlying commodities. The reality is probably not that simple.

 

[percysunshine]

"In 1973, a deal was struck between Saudi Arabia and the United States in which every barrel of oil purchased from the Saudis would be denominated in U.S. dollars.

"Under this new arrangement, any country that sought to purchase oil from Saudi Arabia would be required to first exchange their own national currency for U.S. dollars.

"In exchange for Saudi Arabia's willingness to denominate their oil sales exclusively in U.S. dollars, the United States offered weapons and protection of their oil fields from neighboring nations, including Israel.<

Preparing for the Collapse of the Petrodollar System | FTMdaily.com

Oil is denominated in US Dollars because we are the largest consumer and importer in the world. Denominating it in dollars makes for the lowest overall transaction cost. If China surpasses us, it will be denominated in Yaun.

Are you saying that OPEC's deal with America that ties oil sales to the dollar is only because America uses more and not because of any deal struck with the Saudis?

I have no idea what deals may or may not have been struck. I am only saying it is natural for a commodity to be denominated in the currency of the largest consumer of the commodity. It minimizes transactions costs.

 

[Two Thumbs]

attacking syria is treason

whoever votes to go or if obama does go, they help aq.

aq is our enemy, killing off their enemy is aide and comfort