Gays blaming blacks for gay marriage ban in California

[WhiteLion]

The only way to redemption is to ask for forgiveness for your sins and REPENT. That means work at avoiding the sin.

Gays who have the attitude of "being homosexual is a sin but we all sin so it doesn't matter and I don't have to worry about it" sadly are missing the point of forgiveness. God will forgive you, but you have to admit you're doing something wrong, and try to rectify it.

Hehe...rectify.

lol

 

[007]

Is Homosexuality a Mental Illness or Emotional Problem?

No. Psychologists, psychiatrists, and other mental health professionals agree that homosexuality is not an illness, a mental disorder, or an emotional problem. More than 35 years of objective, well-designed scientific research has shown that homosexuality, in and itself, is not associated with mental disorders or emotional or social problems. Homosexuality was once thought to be a mental illness because mental health professionals and society had biased information.

BULLSHIT. It was, is, and always will be a mental disorder.

Homosexual Activists Intimidate American Psychiatric Association into Removing Homosexuality from List of Disorders

BY RYAN SORBA

“It was never a medical decision—and that’s why I think the action came so fast…It was a political move.”

“That’s how far we’ve come in ten years. Now we even have the American Psychiatric Association running scared.”
-Barbara Gittings, Same-gender sex activist

Let us, for a moment, rewind to the year1970. In this year, same-gender sex activists began a program of intimidation aimed at the American Psychiatric Association (APA). Activist Frank Kameny states the movement’s objective clearly, “I feel that the entire homophile movement…is going to stand or fall upon the question of whether or not homosexuality is a sickness, and upon our taking a firm stand on it…” (The Gay Crusaders, by Kay Tobin and Randy Wicker, p. 98)

In 1970, psychiatrists generally considered sexual desires toward members of one’s own gender to be disordered. Karoly Maria Kertbeny’s term, “homosexual” was the official descriptor for those inflicted by this mental-physical disassociative disorder. Psychiatry’s authoritative voice influenced public opinion, which at the time was negative toward same-gender sex. Of course, public sexual activity in parks and public restrooms contributed to societies negative views about the types of people that did such things, but “scientific opinion” was crucial in the public attitude.

Led by radicals like Frank Kameny, same-gender sex activists attacked many psychiatrists publicly, as Newsweek describes, “But even more than the government, it is the psychiatrists who have experienced the full rage of the homosexual activists. Over the past two years, gay-lib organizations have repeatedly disrupted medical meetings, and three months ago—in the movements most aggressive demonstration so far—a group of 30 militants broke into a meeting of the American Psychiatric Association in Washington, where they turned the staid proceedings into near chaos for twenty minutes. ‘We are here to denounce your authority to call us sick or mentally disordered,’ shouted the group’s leader, Dr. Franklin Kameny, while the 2,000 shocked psychiatrists looked on in disbelief. ‘For us, as homosexuals, your profession is the enemy incarnate. We demand that psychiatrists treat us as human beings, not as patients to be cured!’” (Newsweek, 8-23-71, p.47)

Ironically, at the very moment Franklin Kameny was claiming that same-gender sex was healthy, safe, and natural, a deadly virus was silently passing through communities of men all over the nation as a result of the promiscuous, unhealthy nature of the sex they were having. Only a decade later, thousands of men would be dead or dying, of AIDS.

On June 7, of the following year, 1971, Franklin Kameny wrote a letter to the Psychiatric News threatening the APA with not only more, but worse, disruptions. In this letter he states, “Our presence there was only the beginning of an increasingly intensive campaign by homosexuals to change the approach of psychiatry toward homosexuality or, failing that, to discredit psychiatry.” (The Gay Crusaders p. 130-131)

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[WhiteLion]

That all sounds nice and fair but it would mean the government would be telling a church that they could not call something they perform a marriage. Because you know there are churches that are going to have no problem performing ceremonies for gays.

So, how correct is it to allow the government to tell a church what words they may utter or print? Or anyone, for that matter...why has the government involved itself in defining a word in this manner?

I bet you my church wont!!! Oh but that would make us fuuuuuuuundamentalist

 

[mattskramer]

BULLSHIT. It was, is, and always will be a mental disorder.

Homosexual Activists Intimidate American Psychiatric Association into Removing Homosexuality from List of Disorders

BY RYAN SORBA

“It was never a medical decision—and that’s why I think the action came so fast…It was a political move.”

“That’s how far we’ve come in ten years. Now we even have the American Psychiatric Association running scared.”
-Barbara Gittings, Same-gender sex activist

Let us, for a moment, rewind to the year1970. In this year, same-gender sex activists began a program of intimidation aimed at the American Psychiatric Association (APA). Activist Frank Kameny states the movement’s objective clearly, “I feel that the entire homophile movement…is going to stand or fall upon the question of whether or not homosexuality is a sickness, and upon our taking a firm stand on it…” (The Gay Crusaders, by Kay Tobin and Randy Wicker, p. 98)

In 1970, psychiatrists generally considered sexual desires toward members of one’s own gender to be disordered. Karoly Maria Kertbeny’s term, “homosexual” was the official descriptor for those inflicted by this mental-physical disassociative disorder. Psychiatry’s authoritative voice influenced public opinion, which at the time was negative toward same-gender sex. Of course, public sexual activity in parks and public restrooms contributed to societies negative views about the types of people that did such things, but “scientific opinion” was crucial in the public attitude.

Led by radicals like Frank Kameny, same-gender sex activists attacked many psychiatrists publicly, as Newsweek describes, “But even more than the government, it is the psychiatrists who have experienced the full rage of the homosexual activists. Over the past two years, gay-lib organizations have repeatedly disrupted medical meetings, and three months ago—in the movements most aggressive demonstration so far—a group of 30 militants broke into a meeting of the American Psychiatric Association in Washington, where they turned the staid proceedings into near chaos for twenty minutes. ‘We are here to denounce your authority to call us sick or mentally disordered,’ shouted the group’s leader, Dr. Franklin Kameny, while the 2,000 shocked psychiatrists looked on in disbelief. ‘For us, as homosexuals, your profession is the enemy incarnate. We demand that psychiatrists treat us as human beings, not as patients to be cured!’” (Newsweek, 8-23-71, p.47)

Ironically, at the very moment Franklin Kameny was claiming that same-gender sex was healthy, safe, and natural, a deadly virus was silently passing through communities of men all over the nation as a result of the promiscuous, unhealthy nature of the sex they were having. Only a decade later, thousands of men would be dead or dying, of AIDS.

On June 7, of the following year, 1971, Franklin Kameny wrote a letter to the Psychiatric News threatening the APA with not only more, but worse, disruptions. In this letter he states, “Our presence there was only the beginning of an increasingly intensive campaign by homosexuals to change the approach of psychiatry toward homosexuality or, failing that, to discredit psychiatry.” (The Gay Crusaders p. 130-131)

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Silly right-winger spin.

 

[Coloradomtnman]

Jesus Christ came to abolish dogma, same sex marriage and homosexuality is pawned off as a multiculturalist effort to destroy societal identity by redifining the traditional heterosexual family foundation,family foundation,family foundation........................

If Jesus Christ came to abolish dogma and you're a Christian, then why are you so dogmatic in your beliefs? Do you know what dogma means?

 

[bornright]

Homosexuals have the same rights now as heterosexuals. Homosexuals have the right to marry the same as heterosexuals. They can marry someone of the opposite sex now. Maybe homosexuals are asking for more rights than heterosexuals.

 

[glockmail]

Then you haven't read my comments, because I expect more from blacks than I do from whites. ...

Yeah, from the safety and anonymity of your keyboard. Give me a fucking break.

 

[WhiteLion]

Yeah, from the safety and anonymity of your keyboard. Give me a fucking break.

lol true glock

 

[Coloradomtnman]

Jesus Christ came to abolish dogma dummy, same sex marriage and homosexuality is pawned off as a multiculturalist effort to destroy societal identity by redifining the traditional heterosexual family foundation,family foundation,family foundation........................family foundation....

Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.
Winston Churchill
Misery looooooooves company....

What's the family foundation, WhiteLion? Husband, wife, children? Who defined that? Oh, don't tell me, God did and you read it in the Bible. Blah blah blah. That's dogma.

In the Himilayas there are women married to two men, typically brothers, and it works because one man spends 6 months tending the herd while the other stays home helping with the family. Then the switch. Its been that way for centuries if not millenia. Does God hate them?

What about bedouins who've practiced polygamy in the desert for millenia and it worked for them? And to say it hasn't worked is ignorant because, guess what, those people still exist!

And what about Mormons? They're Christians and yet many practice polygamy!

Have you ever spoken to a woman who was a wife in a polygamist marriage. Many will tell you they like it, some because of indoctrination but some because of real practical reasons and why it works for them as an individual.

But none of this would ever get through to you because you so blindly believe your religion and need your religion so badly that you would never consider that your religion isn't perfect or that the Bible could be anything but the absolute truth. Or, in other words, dogma.

 

[Coloradomtnman]

I bet you my church wont!!! Oh but that would make us fuuuuuuuundamentalist

Yes, it does.

 

[Coloradomtnman]

Homosexuals have the same rights now as heterosexuals. Homosexuals have the right to marry the same as heterosexuals. They can marry someone of the opposite sex now. Maybe homosexuals are asking for more rights than heterosexuals.

Heterosexual couples can marry for love (they don't always, but they can). Homosexuals can't. Therefore they do not enjoy the same rights. Simple logic.

 

[sealybobo]

See Im not for gay marriage im against it. However, Gay Partnership or whatever else you want to name it thats not marriage is ok with me. The way I see it is if an EQUAL alternative is created we can protect the sanctity of marriage and allow the economic advantages to homosexual couples that are granted to heterosexual couples. You know kind of like NBA WNBA.

I'm ok with that.

People who are against what you just said usually fear that seperate but equal is never equal, but I believe this will be equal.

It's not like we'll make them get inferior healthcare as gay couples. They'll still get the same crappy healthcare you and I get.

And the one with more money will get fucked just like in straight marriages. I wonder if Elton John wants gay marriage? I wouldn't. Then that dude could get half his shit.

PS. Did you hear Simon Cowell gave his ex girlfriend something like $5 million and a home? Even though they weren't married????

God, what dirt does she have on him.

 

[007]

Silly right-winger spin.

Spin my ass, it's sons a bichin' truth, and you can't dispute it. So your sorry little retort is actually what I expect from you, a guy that sat around and had a circle jerk with his queer buddies, and a guy thinks it's OK for daddy to fuck his little daughter.

You're just as sick in the head as all the rest of the homos matts, I don't expect you to believe the truth.

 

[WhiteLion]

What's the family foundation, WhiteLion? Husband, wife, children? Who defined that? Oh, don't tell me, God did and you read it in the Bible. Blah blah blah. That's dogma.

In the Himilayas there are women married to two men, typically brothers, and it works because one man spends 6 months tending the herd while the other stays home helping with the family. Then the switch. Its been that way for centuries if not millenia. Does God hate them?

What about bedouins who've practiced polygamy in the desert for millenia and it worked for them? And to say it hasn't worked is ignorant because, guess what, those people still exist!

And what about Mormons? They're Christians and yet many practice polygamy!

Have you ever spoken to a woman who was a wife in a polygamist marriage. Many will tell you they like it, some because of indoctrination but some because of real practical reasons and why it works for them as an individual.

But none of this would ever get through to you because you so blindly believe your religion and need your religion so badly that you would never consider that your religion isn't perfect or that the Bible could be anything but the absolute truth. Or, in other words, dogma.

Jesus the Christ came to abolish DOGMA sorry but your opinion is just that, yours read it an weep it baby...Our BIBLE is our guide and the world and its failing polices are yours...
World built the Titanic the Christains built the ARK blub, blub, blub EVEN GOD CANT SINK THE TITANIC??? BAM!!!!!!!

And dont make me start quoting scriptures you atheistc agnostic ill have you pissing fire and running cover you unholy turd...

 

[sealybobo]

Yeah, from the safety and anonymity of your keyboard. Give me a fucking break.

What?

I said/meant I expect black people not to descriminate against gays because blacks themselves get descriminated against and they should know better.

Why would I have to say that from the "safety and anonymity" of my keyboard? Who am I supposed to be afraid of? Blacks or whites? Why would a black person be offended or want to hit me for saying that?

If a bunch of blondes pick on a brunette and then that brunette goes and picks on a red head, that brunette should be ashamed of themselves.

Should I be afraid of brunettes now?

I would never say anything to offend black people. Not on purpose anyways. Now white people? They deserve it.

 

[WhiteLion]

What?

I said/meant I expect black people not to descriminate against gays because blacks themselves get descriminated against and they should know better.

Why would I have to say that from the "safety and anonymity" of my keyboard? Who am I supposed to be afraid of? Blacks or whites? Why would a black person be offended or want to hit me for saying that?

If a bunch of blondes pick on a brunette and then that brunette goes and picks on a red head, that brunette should be ashamed of themselves.

Should I be afraid of brunettes now?

I would never say anything to offend black people. Not on purpose anyways. Now white people? They deserve it.

Only because we let you, unlike our negro counter parts we gave over our power or more or less was taken by multiculturalist carpet baggers or sellouts... I do credit the negro at least they stuck together...

 

[52ndStreet]

This Homosexuality appears to be a White Thing. It is illegal in many Black countries through out the World.

 

[Mr. President]

This Homosexuality appears to be a White Thing. It is illegal in many Black countries through out the World.

How hard is it to make a decision to not apply any logic to your thoughts or comments and just speak all the time.

 

[sealybobo]

Only because we let you, unlike our negro counter parts we gave over our power or more or less was taken by multiculturalist carpet baggers or sellouts... I do credit the negro at least they stuck together...

We'll be a lot better off when you realize it isn't about black & white, gay/straight, man/woman or jew/muslim or christian/athiest.

It's rich vs poor. And you are poor. So basically to George Bush, you are the negro my brother.

And I stick together with my poor/middle class brothers and sisters. I don't care if they are gay, women, muslims, jews, black.

I know that we share the same concerns. Health care costs, wages, unemployment, inflation, worker rights.

And George Bush would much rather live next to a rich black guy than he would your broke ass.

He only panders to your ignorance so he can get your sorry ass vote. Why else are they selling America to foreign interests? George Bush has more in common with a millionaire from India than he does you. Why else would they sell a port to Dubai? It's all about $ to them. They don't give a fuck about you.

Just remember, and I hope this scares you. White man white woman, white baby, but white man or woman with black man or black woman, and you always get a black baby. It's coming!!! Do you have kids? Oh no!!!

I hope we all melt together into one breed. Then there won't be people like you anymore.

I take that back. Then the light skinned people will make fun of the darker shades. People are people.

 

[sealybobo]

This Homosexuality appears to be a White Thing. It is illegal in many Black countries through out the World.

Is it just me or are black people less angry since the election? I'm sensing pride and confidence.

Maybe they don't feel like white people are looking down on them anymore. Maybe they don't feel like second class citizens anymore.

Maybe they realize the man is keeping all of us broke asses down. Not just them.