Gays blaming blacks for gay marriage ban in California

[sealybobo]

TMI-big time

Totally kidding.

But, the idea that the guy who's getting banged is more or less gay than the guy giving.

Actually, imo, the guy receiving has got to be gayer. I can see why the giver is giving, but why is the receiver receiving?

 

[WhiteLion]

Sodomites blaming blacks, can't these sore loser accept that they've lost the right to live is sodomosexual matrimony in California? This backs up Mr Bass' assertions of blacks being the least gay of all people:


Criticism mounts among gays over Calif. ban - Yahoo! News


Exit polls in California showed that the gay marriage ban received a majority from black voters, which has prompted some gay leaders to complain that they were abandoned by a minority group that should understand discrimination.

Kathryn Kolbert, a black lesbian who is president of People for the American Way, a Washington-based group that monitors the religious right, was so worried about a backlash that she wrote a memo to colleagues, warning it is wrong and self-defeating to blame black voters for the outcome.

"It's always easy to scapegoat when you are feeling bitter about a loss," Kolbert said. "What we do in America when we are frustrated is blame the people we always blame."



Its no surprise, gay so called "rights" and the black Civil Rights are *NOT* the same so sodomites shouldn't be surprise to see this from blacks.

Gays try to equate the 1960's negro civil rights movement to their agenda, when the fact of the matter they have all the rights anyone else has collectively, to grant them same sex marriage would place them above the law... same sex marriage and homosexuality is pawned off in an effort to destroy societal identity by redifining the traditional heterosexual family foundation hands down...

 

[sealybobo]

Gays try to equate the 1960's negro civil rights movement to their agenda, when the fact of the matter they have all the rights anyone else has collectively, to grant them same sex marriage would place them above the law... same sex marriage and homosexuality is pawned off in an effort to destroy societal identity by redifining the traditional heterosexual family foundation hands down...

What? That's mumbo jumbo.

And why are you siding with the black now mr WHITE lion?

The sad thing about human nature is that the black man will join you in this fight to discriminate against gays or muslims or illegals or jews because he's just glad the focus is off him.

The only time the constitution was ammended to take away rights was prohibition. And we see how well that turned out.

You don't put discrimination into the constitution!

If a straight couple can get a tax write off, you gotta give the gay couple that same benefit. At least in America you do.

Again, your Jewish/baptist/catholic/muslim church married you, right? But where do you go to get a divorce? Court. The Judge. So keep your catholic weddings. But gay people need to be allowed to be married. And get the benefits that go with it.

Why is this so hard for you to understand?

 

[WhiteLion]

What? That's mumbo jumbo.

And why are you siding with the black now mr WHITE lion?

The sad thing about human nature is that the black man will join you in this fight to discriminate against gays or muslims or illegals or jews because he's just glad the focus is off him.

The only time the constitution was ammended to take away rights was prohibition. And we see how well that turned out.

You don't put discrimination into the constitution!

If a straight couple can get a tax write off, you gotta give the gay couple that same benefit. At least in America you do.

Again, your Jewish/baptist/catholic/muslim church married you, right? But where do you go to get a divorce? Court. The Judge. So keep your catholic weddings. But gay people need to be allowed to be married. And get the benefits that go with it.

Why is this so hard for you to understand?

Understand?? lol like i said in my earlier post, same sex marriage and homosexuality is pawned off in an multiculturalist effort to destroy societal identity by redifining the traditional heterosexual family foundation hands down

 

[sealybobo]

Understand?? lol like i said in my earlier post, same sex marriage and homosexuality is pawned off in an multiculturalist effort to destroy societal identity by redifining the traditional heterosexual family foundation hands down

I believe racists said the same thing about blacks marrying whites. I also believe that back during the civil rights movement, racists were able to use the bible to show why and where god does not approve of interacial marriage.

All that doesn't matter in America. As long as they aren't hurting anyone, they should be able to do it. As long as straight couples get the benefits, gay couples should too. And of course as long as it's not against the law. Is it? Is it illegal to be gay?

What you said is your opinion. So start arguing with facts. Or prove your claim. Because I think hetero couples are doing fine on their own ruining the sactity of marriage.

 

[Coloradomtnman]

Understand?? lol like i said in my earlier post, same sex marriage and homosexuality is pawned off in an multiculturalist effort to destroy societal identity by redifining the traditional heterosexual family foundation hands down

There's no reasoning with this person. This person believes that if gay people can get married to eachother then they are somehow above the law. What law? What the hell is this person talking about? Is there something wrong with being a multiculturalist? Or would you rather live in a white, Protestant Christian, middle-class, everyone looks/talks/acts the same cultural abyss? And social identity won't be affected by same sex marriage. How would it? A same sex couple gets married and that does what to society? Give me a break! Your dogma clouds your vision so much that you can't see past the Bible in front of your face. Go back to Church and never come out again and leave the world to the rest of us who better understand the reality of human beings and the nature of the world.

 

[sealybobo]

Did you guys hear Mark Foley's interview yesterday? What a scumbag. He says he isn't technically a pedophile because pedophilia is technically between a man and a pre pubesent child.

DUDE, they were in highschool you freakin perv!!!!

 

[Mr. President]

This is a touchy subject because marriage in its origin is a biblical term used to define a lifetime commitment of a man and a woman. This is why your church can marry you. However, the courts handle the divorce because the seperation of church and state would not allow for the church to decide the placement of children and financial responsibilities of each of the adults. One would argue that the same sepration of church and state that grants the divorce should allow homosexuals to marry; however, because it was a biblically originated premise there are no provisions for homosexuality in them.

 

[sealybobo]

There's no reasoning with this person. This person believes that if gay people can get married to eachother then they are somehow above the law. What law? What the hell is this person talking about? Is there something wrong with being a multiculturalist? Or would you rather live in a white, Protestant Christian, middle-class, everyone looks/talks/acts the same cultural abyss? And social identity won't be affected by same sex marriage. How would it? A same sex couple gets married and that does what to society? Give me a break! Your dogma clouds your vision so much that you can't see past the Bible in front of your face. Go back to Church and never come out again and leave the world to the rest of us who better understand the reality of human beings and the nature of the world.

Nice post. I'm not gay, but if we didn't live in a society where males weren't supposed to show affection for each other, I'd kiss you square on the lips.

 

[sealybobo]

This is a touchy subject because marriage in its origin is a biblical term used to define a lifetime commitment of a man and a woman. This is why your church can marry you. However, the courts handle the divorce because the seperation of church and state would not allow for the church to decide the placement of children and financial responsibilities of each of the adults. One would argue that the same sepration of church and state that grants the divorce should allow homosexuals to marry; however, because it was a biblically originated premise there are no provisions for homosexuality in them.

I agree. I said some of those same things earlier, only not as elequently. LOL.

My dad is a good person, but right now he defends banning gay marriage. He uses all the old arguments. He even gets a bit emotional about it.

And he's a liberal. This is going to be a tough one to convince people that it's not right to discriminate on gays, but it is totally an argument we will win.

Years ago I remember the arguments were totally different than they are now. They are down to their last argument, that it's not ok with god. BFD if you are an athiest. And not all Americans are christians or religious. So get religion out of the argument.

 

[glockmail]

Sodomites blaming blacks, can't these sore loser accept that they've lost the right to live is sodomosexual matrimony in California? This backs up Mr Bass' assertions of blacks being the least gay of all people:


Criticism mounts among gays over Calif. ban - Yahoo! News


Exit polls in California showed that the gay marriage ban received a majority from black voters, which has prompted some gay leaders to complain that they were abandoned by a minority group that should understand discrimination.

Kathryn Kolbert, a black lesbian who is president of People for the American Way, a Washington-based group that monitors the religious right, was so worried about a backlash that she wrote a memo to colleagues, warning it is wrong and self-defeating to blame black voters for the outcome.

"It's always easy to scapegoat when you are feeling bitter about a loss," Kolbert said. "What we do in America when we are frustrated is blame the people we always blame."



Its no surprise, gay so called "rights" and the black Civil Rights are *NOT* the same so sodomites shouldn't be surprise to see this from blacks.

I've yet to see the sodomites protesting the black churches like they have the white ones. Must not be PeeCee.

 

[WhiteLion]

There's no reasoning with this person. This person believes that if gay people can get married to eachother then they are somehow above the law. What law? What the hell is this person talking about? Is there something wrong with being a multiculturalist? Or would you rather live in a white, Protestant Christian, middle-class, everyone looks/talks/acts the same cultural abyss? And social identity won't be affected by same sex marriage. How would it? A same sex couple gets married and that does what to society? Give me a break! Your dogma clouds your vision so much that you can't see past the Bible in front of your face. Go back to Church and never come out again and leave the world to the rest of us who better understand the reality of human beings and the nature of the world.

Jesus Christ came to abolish dogma, same sex marriage and homosexuality is pawned off as a multiculturalist effort to destroy societal identity by redifining the traditional heterosexual family foundation,family foundation,family foundation........................

 

[sealybobo]

I've yet to see the sodomites protesting the black churches like they have the white ones. Must not be PeeCee.

Then you haven't read my comments, because I expect more from blacks than I do from whites.

Blacks are proving they are just like white people. Give them the power and they'll descriminate too. Shame.

 

[sealybobo]

same sex marriage and homosexuality is pawned off in an multiculturalist effort to destroy societal identity by redifining the traditional heterosexual QUOTE]

Can you prove this or show this to be true? Or show that this is happening?

 

[Mr. President]

I agree. I said some of those same things earlier, only not as elequently. LOL.

My dad is a good person, but right now he defends banning gay marriage. He uses all the old arguments. He even gets a bit emotional about it.

And he's a liberal. This is going to be a tough one to convince people that it's not right to discriminate on gays, but it is totally an argument we will win.

Years ago I remember the arguments were totally different than they are now. They are down to their last argument, that it's not ok with god. BFD if you are an athiest. And not all Americans are christians or religious. So get religion out of the argument.

See Im not for gay marriage im against it. However, Gay Partnership or whatever else you want to name it thats not marriage is ok with me. The way I see it is if an EQUAL alternative is created we can protect the sanctity of marriage and allow the economic advantages to homosexual couples that are granted to heterosexual couples. You know kind of like NBA WNBA.

 

[AllieBaba]

By the way, back in the 50's and 60's, whites used the bible to argue why blacks and whites should not marry.

They talked about this on Air America the other day. Denying these people equal rights is wrong no matter how you justify it. Either stop giving married people who do not have children tax breaks and stop letting them share insurance, or give it to gay people.

They were talking about Sodom & Gamora. I guess that town was punished by God for all their sins? But the funny thing is, they did a lot more than sodomize. So I find it funny that the bible thumpers chose to focus on the sodomy but ignore all the other shit they were doing that made god mad.

And we all sin. You sin, I sin. And if being gay is a sin, so what? Are you going to hell you sinner? NO? Well then neither are they. Unless of course they haven't accepted Jesus Christ as their savior.

The only way to redemption is to ask for forgiveness for your sins and REPENT. That means work at avoiding the sin.

Gays who have the attitude of "being homosexual is a sin but we all sin so it doesn't matter and I don't have to worry about it" sadly are missing the point of forgiveness. God will forgive you, but you have to admit you're doing something wrong, and try to rectify it.

Hehe...rectify.

 

[AllieBaba]

"Multiculturist".

My cup overfloweth with crap.

 

[WhiteLion]

There's no reasoning with this person. This person believes that if gay people can get married to eachother then they are somehow above the law. What law? What the hell is this person talking about? Is there something wrong with being a multiculturalist? Or would you rather live in a white, Protestant Christian, middle-class, everyone looks/talks/acts the same cultural abyss? And social identity won't be affected by same sex marriage. How would it? A same sex couple gets married and that does what to society? Give me a break! Your dogma clouds your vision so much that you can't see past the Bible in front of your face. Go back to Church and never come out again and leave the world to the rest of us who better understand the reality of human beings and the nature of the world.

Jesus Christ came to abolish dogma dummy, same sex marriage and homosexuality is pawned off as a multiculturalist effort to destroy societal identity by redifining the traditional heterosexual family foundation,family foundation,family foundation........................family foundation....

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Winston Churchill
Misery looooooooves company....

 

[Ravi]

See Im not for gay marriage im against it. However, Gay Partnership or whatever else you want to name it thats not marriage is ok with me. The way I see it is if an EQUAL alternative is created we can protect the sanctity of marriage and allow the economic advantages to homosexual couples that are granted to heterosexual couples. You know kind of like NBA WNBA.

That all sounds nice and fair but it would mean the government would be telling a church that they could not call something they perform a marriage. Because you know there are churches that are going to have no problem performing ceremonies for gays.

So, how correct is it to allow the government to tell a church what words they may utter or print? Or anyone, for that matter...why has the government involved itself in defining a word in this manner?

 

[Mr. President]

That all sounds nice and fair but it would mean the government would be telling a church that they could not call something they perform a marriage. Because you know there are churches that are going to have no problem performing ceremonies for gays.

So, how correct is it to allow the government to tell a church what words they may utter or print? Or anyone, for that matter...why has the government involved itself in defining a word in this manner?

Call it what you want in service or at home but instead of a marriage certificate it would be a partnership certificate the government role would begin and end there.