Fisa documents released. Nunes memo thoroughly discredited.

[bripat9643]

...and they had intercepted their communications which included them talking about how Carter Page was getting whatever information they asked for and saying how Page was an idiot.

I see, so the FBI actually had communications of Russian spies talking about Page.... and that didn't come out of the Steele dossier?

I hope you don't find it offensive but do you have some evidence of that?

and yet the primary source used to get the FISA warrants was the hilary clinton, steele dossier.......

No, it was not. It was basically a foot note.

The previous monitoring of Page and the investigations into the Russian spies was the primary source.

I'm done arguing with you. You fucking think some blog from some oddball site is a fact.

I have only one question for you. If the FBI had Page under surveillance since 2013 why did they still need to have him under investigation in 2016 useing the Steele joke and why has he not been charged?

Is the Mueller investigation over? Maybe Page has made a deal to cooperate with the investigation in return for immunity?

Yeah, and if pigs had wings they could fly.

 

[OKTexas]

As we all knew, when the truth came out, the Nunes memo was total bullshit.




FBI releases Carter Page surveillance warrant documents - CNNPolitics

So when can we expect a Page indictment?


.

 

[2aguy]

IF these documents didn't show damage to the lie that the FBI was legitmately investigating Trump, they would have released them before Saturday Night.....normally, the clinton rule to hiding document releases is you do it on Friday, the well named "Friday Document Dump," created during the clinton scandals....

This time, they went even farther and dumped the incriminating document on Saturday night...

Andrew McCarthy has been quoted that

On the Carter Page FISA warrant

Quotable quote: “I’m really embarrassed because I told people for months that this could never, ever happen. What I told people is that you’re not even going to hear about the [Steele] dossier when we finally learn what’s in the FISA warrants….When you read this thing, it’s astonishing.

It’s as if they took the dossier and slapped the district court caption on it and gave it to the judge — which is exactly what I told people would never happen.”

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

So when can we expect a Page indictment?

Nobody here knows. Maybe never.

 

[Crepitus]

As we all knew, when the truth came out, the Nunes memo was total bullshit.




FBI releases Carter Page surveillance warrant documents - CNNPolitics

So when can we expect a Page indictment?


.

Why do you kids expect that to be public knowledge?

 

[OKTexas]

As we all knew, when the truth came out, the Nunes memo was total bullshit.




FBI releases Carter Page surveillance warrant documents - CNNPolitics

So when can we expect a Page indictment?


.

Why do you kids expect that to be public knowledge?

Apparently you freaks think you're privy to tons of things no one else seems to know, when Page is going to be indicted should be an easy lift, especially for people that claim they know what occurred in a private presidential meeting.


.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

As we all knew, when the truth came out, the Nunes memo was total bullshit.




FBI releases Carter Page surveillance warrant documents - CNNPolitics

So when can we expect a Page indictment?


.

Why do you kids expect that to be public knowledge?

Apparently you freaks think you're privy to tons of things no one else seems to know, when Page is going to be indicted should be an easy lift, especially for people that claim they know what occurred in a private presidential meeting.


.

Go it. Let's summarize:

You are acting foolish, because you are forced to do so, because someone else did.

That's special.

 

[Crepitus]

As we all knew, when the truth came out, the Nunes memo was total bullshit.




FBI releases Carter Page surveillance warrant documents - CNNPolitics

So when can we expect a Page indictment?


.

Why do you kids expect that to be public knowledge?

Apparently you freaks think you're privy to tons of things no one else seems to know, when Page is going to be indicted should be an easy lift, especially for people that claim they know what occurred in a private presidential meeting.


.

I've never claimed more knowledge of the case, only the ability to apply more common sense to it.

 

[OKTexas]

As we all knew, when the truth came out, the Nunes memo was total bullshit.




FBI releases Carter Page surveillance warrant documents - CNNPolitics

So when can we expect a Page indictment?


.

Why do you kids expect that to be public knowledge?

Apparently you freaks think you're privy to tons of things no one else seems to know, when Page is going to be indicted should be an easy lift, especially for people that claim they know what occurred in a private presidential meeting.


.

Go it. Let's summarize:

You are acting foolish, because you are forced to do so, because someone else did.

That's special.

And, here you are, that's really really special. LMAO Sooooooooo nice to see I could force you to post such ignorant crap.


.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

As we all knew, when the truth came out, the Nunes memo was total bullshit.




FBI releases Carter Page surveillance warrant documents - CNNPolitics

So when can we expect a Page indictment?


.

Why do you kids expect that to be public knowledge?

Apparently you freaks think you're privy to tons of things no one else seems to know, when Page is going to be indicted should be an easy lift, especially for people that claim they know what occurred in a private presidential meeting.


.

Go it. Let's summarize:

You are acting foolish, because you are forced to do so, because someone else did.

That's special.

And, here you are, that's really really special. LMAO Sooooooooo nice to see I could force you to post such ignorant crap.


.

So,let's review:

You act like a fool, but it forces people to mock you, which means you are victorious.

That's special.

Now that we have that out of the way....why are you asking strangers on a message board when page will be indicted? That seems like odd behavior.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Funny....the US IG report already cited FBI abused the FISA Courts...

Liar.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

As we all knew, when the truth came out, the Nunes memo was total bullshit.




FBI releases Carter Page surveillance warrant documents - CNNPolitics

Note:
This is a heavily redacted version.
I guess they needed to redact the fuck out of it to remove any evidence of abuse.

It's classified, dope.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

FBI releases Carter Page surveillance warrant documents - CNNPolitics

This is nice

"The FBI believes that Page has been collaborating and conspiring with the Russian government," the application states, adding that "there is probable cause that such activities involve or are about to involve violations of the criminal statutes of the United States."

Not, "we have evidence that shows" or even "we have reason to think that" but "we believe...."????

Freedom of religion is a good thing but to apply that to Orwellian spy practices....

Is that language unusual for a warrant application that requires probable cause?

 

[Hutch Starskey]

FBI releases Carter Page surveillance warrant documents - CNNPolitics

This is nice

"The FBI believes that Page has been collaborating and conspiring with the Russian government," the application states, adding that "there is probable cause that such activities involve or are about to involve violations of the criminal statutes of the United States."

Not, "we have evidence that shows" or even "we have reason to think that" but "we believe...."????

Freedom of religion is a good thing but to apply that to Orwellian spy practices....

They used the Steele dossier payed for and created by hilary to get those FISA warrants..... comey and sally yates signed off on the applications... they need to be arrested for lying to several federal judges.... this goes to the White House....and it is the biggest political scandal in our history..... a sitting President and his people used fake information to get FISA warrants, by lying to federal judges so they could spy on the opposition campaign....nothing the Plumbers did comes close to this, and the Plumbers weren't the leadership of the FBI, and the Department of Justice...and since the emails from Strzoke and Page state that the White House wanted to be kept informed, it goes to the President as well.....

Massive scandal....

The left can play the game.... but this is a massive scandal.......

They used the Steele dossier payed for and created by hilary to get those FISA warrants.....

Sure, fool.

On all of the 450 pages.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

This thread is about an FBI FISA warrant on Carter Page and how it shows Nunes was trying to protect Trump through lies.

Within less than a page in this thread however, it's already been directed to being about Hillary Clinton using psychotropic drugs in children's vaccinations that causes them to have seizures when looking into the sky when secret military planes are spreading chem trails meant to spread alien DNA into the human gene pool.

Your reading comprehension really sucks...


First Thoughts On the Carter Page FISA Application

But Page has never been charged with anything. Accordingly, the least we can say is that Obama’s FBI and DOJ were wrong.

Second, the application’s description of Christopher Steele and the provenance of his dossier was misleading at best:

he “identified U.S. person” is Glenn Simpson, the head of Fusion GPS. Source #1 is Christopher Steele. The DOJ’s statement that “the FBI speculates that the identified U.S person [Simpson] was likely looking for information that could be used to discredit Candidate #1’s [Trump’s] campaign” could only have been an intentional effort to deceive the FISA judge.

The FBI was perfectly well aware that the Hillary Clinton campaign and the DNC hired Simpson through their lawyers, and the purpose of doing so was to attack candidate Donald Trump.

References to “speculation” about “likely” motives are entirely dishonest.

Third, the application relies to an astonishing degree on anti-Trump news stories published in the Democratic Party press. Does the FBI really get surveillance warrants on the basis of partisan press accounts? Apparently so. For example:
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Amazingly, the FISA application relies on “speculation in U.S. media” for the proposition that Russia was behind the phishing of DNC emails:
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Fourth, we still don’t know who at the FBI assembled the FISA application, since that person’s signature is redacted. But we do know who approved it–hyper-partisans James Comey and Sally Yates:

That probably tells us all we need to know about the veracity of the FISA application. Perhaps one day we will learn that Peter Strzok was the Democratic Party activist who prepared the application.

What I really want to know is the identity of the judge who signed off on the surveillance of Carter Page, based on such flimsy grounds. Some are speculating that he must be from Hawaii.

No, the only thing that sucks...

Is the fact that you guys can not even remotely discuss the topic. I mean you guys get so far off topic, so quickly, it's fucking amazing.

Let me repeat a very simple thing that anyone that still thinks this is a joke needs to pay attention to.

The FBI was investigating the actions of some Russian spies who were trying to groom American assets. The FBI TOLD CARTER PAGE who they were and what they were trying to do. Carter Page fucking ignored the FBI's warning and kept cooperating with the Russian spies and even ramped up his game.

So how in the wide wide world do you think the FBI was not justified in getting a FISA warrant on Page? THEY WARNED HIM OF EXACTLY WHO AND WHAT THE GUYS WERE. Page still did his thing.

You desperately need to ignore the fact that the FISA warrants were obtained illegally against American citizens.....with the okay of the leadership of the FBI and the Department of Justice, likely with the approval of the White House since an operation against the opposition party is so far outside legitimate activity that it makes the Plumbers and Watergate a nothing burger in comparison.....

You desperately need to ignore the fact that the FISA warrants were obtained illegally against American citizens

In what way(s) was the warrant obtained illegally, liar?

 

[OKTexas]

As we all knew, when the truth came out, the Nunes memo was total bullshit.




FBI releases Carter Page surveillance warrant documents - CNNPolitics

So when can we expect a Page indictment?


.

Why do you kids expect that to be public knowledge?

Apparently you freaks think you're privy to tons of things no one else seems to know, when Page is going to be indicted should be an easy lift, especially for people that claim they know what occurred in a private presidential meeting.


.

I've never claimed more knowledge of the case, only the ability to apply more common sense to it.

Oh, so you're special too, my God how many really special people, with all this ability will I get to meet in just this one thread? Tell everyone where you gained this magic ability to apply more common sense to a topic than anyone else in this whole wide world? I'll be waiting with all the anticipation I can possibly muster.



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[mudwhistle]

As we all knew, when the truth came out, the Nunes memo was total bullshit.




FBI releases Carter Page surveillance warrant documents - CNNPolitics

Note:
This is a heavily redacted version.
I guess they needed to redact the fuck out of it to remove any evidence of abuse.

It's classified, dope.

So they say.
And they're using it as an excuse.
Guess Trump is letting them have all the rope they need to hang themselves......then he'll declassify everything.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

As we all knew, when the truth came out, the Nunes memo was total bullshit.




FBI releases Carter Page surveillance warrant documents - CNNPolitics

Note:
This is a heavily redacted version.
I guess they needed to redact the fuck out of it to remove any evidence of abuse.

It's classified, dope.

So they say.
And they're using it as an excuse.
Guess Trump is letting them have all the rope they need to hang themselves......then he'll declassify everything.

Excuse? It details the activities of russian spies, dope.

 

[OKTexas]

So when can we expect a Page indictment?


.

Why do you kids expect that to be public knowledge?

Apparently you freaks think you're privy to tons of things no one else seems to know, when Page is going to be indicted should be an easy lift, especially for people that claim they know what occurred in a private presidential meeting.


.

Go it. Let's summarize:

You are acting foolish, because you are forced to do so, because someone else did.

That's special.

And, here you are, that's really really special. LMAO Sooooooooo nice to see I could force you to post such ignorant crap.


.

So,let's review:

You act like a fool, but it forces people to mock you, which means you are victorious.

That's special.

Now that we have that out of the way....why are you asking strangers on a message board when page will be indicted? That seems like odd behavior.

Are you still here? The best way to prove the Page warrant wasn't bullshit, is Page being indicted. It's a perfectly logical question.


.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

The best way to prove the Page warrant wasn't bullshit, is Page being indicted.

Not so. In fact, that makes no sense, as an illegal warrant could still be followed by an indictment.