First mass public shooting in U.S. done with an 8 round capacity, semi-automatic pistol....13 killed, more than by the AR-15 in Nashville

[2aguy]

Found this through Bearing Arms.com, and Amy Swearer.......

an American mass murderer[note 1] who shot and killed thirteen people during a twelve-minute walk through his neighborhood in Camden, New Jersey, on September 6, 1949[5]

Why focusing on AR-15s for mass shootings is dumb

bearingarms.com

Howard Unruh - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

8 round magazine.......semi-auto pistol....killed more than the shooter in Nashville with an AR-15 rifle 6 killed.....more than the Louiseville shooter with an AR-15...6 killed


Again....it isnt the gun that matters....

What matters is how much free time the killer has in the gun free zone before someone with a gun forces them to stop murdering unarmed, defenseless victims......

And again.....in both Nashville and Louisville...what did the people on the 911 call beg the operator to do?

Send us a whole bunch of guys with guns to save us from this killer.......

 

[2aguy]

Amy Swearer also point out another mass public shooting....

1903......8 killed....with a sawn off shotgun.....double barreled....that means 2 shots...not a rifle, not a magazine.


In 1903, in Winfield, KS, a man opened fire on a weekly outdoor music concert attended by thousands of people. He killed 8 and wounded 25 more before either taking his own life or being killed by the night watchman. He used a double-barrel shotgun.
https://t.co/D10Dt8QuIS

Why focusing on AR-15s for mass shootings is dumb

bearingarms.com

With a 2 shot shotgun, he killed more people than the Nashville shooter and the Louisville shooter.........who both had AR-15 rifles...

 

[Thunk]

Funny how most of the mass shootings vanished when TRUMP was president.

Tons of shootings during obama and biden...very few under Trump.

It's as if the democrats are orchestrating the shootings for some "unknown" reason

 

[Moonglow]

November 2, 1853 Louisville, Kentucky A student, Matthew Ward, bought a self-cocking pistol in the morning, went to school and killed Schoolmaster Mr. Butler for excessively punishing his brother the day before. Even though he shot the Schoolmaster point blank in front of his classmates, he was acquitted.

History of School Shootings in the United States | K12 Academics

1700s The earliest known United States shooting to happen on school property was the Pontiac's Rebellion school massacre on July 26, 1764, where four Lenape American Indian entered the schoolhouse near present-day Greencastle, Pennsylvania, shot and killed schoolmaster Enoch Brown, and killed...

www.k12academics.com

 

[Moonglow]

Funny how most of the mass shootings vanished when TRUMP was president.

Tons of shootings during obama and biden...very few under Trump.

It's as if the democrats are orchestrating the shootings for some "unknown" reason

you have such a bad memory I wouldn't rely on it for facts...

 

[Moonglow]

 

[Moonglow]

Amy Swearer also point out another mass public shooting....

1903......8 killed....with a sawn off shotgun.....double barreled....that means 2 shots...not a rifle, not a magazine.


In 1903, in Winfield, KS, a man opened fire on a weekly outdoor music concert attended by thousands of people. He killed 8 and wounded 25 more before either taking his own life or being killed by the night watchman. He used a double-barrel shotgun.
The Winfield Massacre

Why focusing on AR-15s for mass shootings is dumb

bearingarms.com

With a 2 shot shotgun, he killed more people than the Nashville shooter and the Louisville shooter.........who both had AR-15 rifles...

As I said before, any firearm can be an assault weapon.

 

[2aguy]

Another mass public shooting.....

This time with a lever action rifle......killed 11 people....

More people killed with the lever action rifle...9, 8 or 7 bullet tube magazine.....and he killed more people than the Nashville shooter and the Louisville shooter who had AR-15 rifles.....

was a Chinese mass murderer who, at the age of 29, killed 11 people on a farm near Fairfield, California on August 22, 1928, before escaping the scene.
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Weapons	Hatchet .25-35 Winchester 1894lever-action rifle[1]

Leung Ying - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[2aguy]

Yeah....that is a lie....

Here is the truth...in full detail...

US mass shootings, 1982–2023: Data from Mother Jones’ investigation

Dating back to at least 2005, the FBI and leading criminologists essentially defined a mass shooting as a single attack in a public place in which four or more victims were killed. We adopted that baseline for fatalities when we gathered data in 2012 on three decades worth of cases.
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• Here is a description of the criteria we use:
  
  • The perpetrator took the lives of at least four people. A 2008 FBI report identifies an individual as a mass murderer—versus a spree killer or a serial killer—if he kills four or more people in a single incident (not including himself), typically in a single location. (*In 2013, the US government’s fatality baseline was revised down to three; our database reflects this change beginning from Jan. 2013, as detailed above.)
  • The killings were carried out by a lone shooter. (Except in the case of the Columbine massacre and the Westside Middle School killings, which involved two shooters.)
  • The shootings occurred in a public place. (Except in the case of a party on private property in Crandon, Wisconsin, and another in Seattle, where crowds of strangers had gathered, essentially constituting a public crowd.) Crimes primarily related to gang activity or armed robbery are not included, nor are mass killings that took place in private homes (often stemming from domestic violence).
  • Perpetrators who died or were wounded during the attack are not included in the victim tallies.
  • We included a handful of cases also known as “spree killings“—cases in which the killings occurred in more than one location, but still over a short period of time, that otherwise fit the above criteria.
  ----------------------

Our research focused on indiscriminate rampages in public places resulting in four or more victims killed by the attacker. We exclude shootings stemming from more conventionally motivated crimes such as armed robbery or gang violence. (Or in which the perpetrators have not been identified.) Other news outlets and researchers have since published larger tallies that include a wide range of gun crimes in which four or more people have been either wounded or killed. While those larger datasets of multiple-victim shootings are useful for studying the broader problem of gun violence, our investigation provides an in-depth look at a distinct phenomenon—from the firearms used and mental health factors to the growing copycat problem. Tracking mass shootings is complex; we believe ours is the most useful approach for studying this specific phenomenon.



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The actual number of mass shootings from Mother Jones......

Here you go...the number of mass public shootings according to Mother Jones...rabid, anti gun, left wing news source.....not the NRA...

The list below comes from the old definition of 4 killed to make a shooting a mass shooting...if you now go to the link there are more than listed below...but that is because Mother Jones changed the list from the time I first posted it...and changed to obama's new standard of only 3 dead to make a mass shooting...



US Mass Shootings, 1982-2015: Data From Mother Jones' Investigation


2022...12

2021...6

2020....2

2019....10

2018... 12

2017: 11 ( 5 according to the old standard)

2016....6

2015....4 ( obama's new standard....7)

2014....2 (4)

2013....5

2012....7

2011....3

2010....1

2009....4

2008....3

2007....4

2006....3

2005...2

2004....1

2003...1

2002 not listed so more than likely 0

2001....1

2000....1

1999....5

1998...3

1997....2

1996....1

1995...1

1994...1

1993...4

1992...2

1991...3

1990...1

1989...2

1988....1

1987...1

1986...1

1985... not listed so probably 0

1984...2

1983...not listed so probably 0

1982...1


US Mass Shootings, 1982-2015: Data From Mother Jones' Investigation

US Mass Shootings, 1982-2015: Data From Mother Jones' Investigation


Deer kill 200 people a year.....

Lawn mowers between 90-100 people a year....

Ladders 300 people a year....

bathtubs 350 people a year...

Cars killed over 39,000 people in 2019...



Total number of people killed in mass public shootings by year...


2022....74
2021...43
2020....5
2019....73
2018.....93
2017........117
2016......71
2015......37
2014..... 9
2013..... 36
2012..... 72
2011..... 19
2010....9
2009...39
2008...18
2007...54
2006...21
2005...17
2004...5
2003...7
2002...not listed by mother jones
2001...5
2000...7
1999...42
1998...14
1997...9
1996...6
1995...6
1994....5
1993...23
1992...9
1991...35
1990...10
1989...15
1988...7
1987...6
1986...15
1985...(none listed)
1984...28
1983 (none listed)
1982...8

 

[Moonglow]

Yeah....that is a lie....

Here is the truth...in full detail...

US mass shootings, 1982–2023: Data from Mother Jones’ investigation

Dating back to at least 2005, the FBI and leading criminologists essentially defined a mass shooting as a single attack in a public place in which four or more victims were killed. We adopted that baseline for fatalities when we gathered data in 2012 on three decades worth of cases.
-------

• Here is a description of the criteria we use:
  • The perpetrator took the lives of at least four people. A 2008 FBI report identifies an individual as a mass murderer—versus a spree killer or a serial killer—if he kills four or more people in a single incident (not including himself), typically in a single location. (*In 2013, the US government’s fatality baseline was revised down to three; our database reflects this change beginning from Jan. 2013, as detailed above.)
  • The killings were carried out by a lone shooter. (Except in the case of the Columbine massacre and the Westside Middle School killings, which involved two shooters.)
  • The shootings occurred in a public place. (Except in the case of a party on private property in Crandon, Wisconsin, and another in Seattle, where crowds of strangers had gathered, essentially constituting a public crowd.) Crimes primarily related to gang activity or armed robbery are not included, nor are mass killings that took place in private homes (often stemming from domestic violence).
  • Perpetrators who died or were wounded during the attack are not included in the victim tallies.
  • We included a handful of cases also known as “spree killings“—cases in which the killings occurred in more than one location, but still over a short period of time, that otherwise fit the above criteria.
  ----------------------

Our research focused on indiscriminate rampages in public places resulting in four or more victims killed by the attacker. We exclude shootings stemming from more conventionally motivated crimes such as armed robbery or gang violence. (Or in which the perpetrators have not been identified.) Other news outlets and researchers have since published larger tallies that include a wide range of gun crimes in which four or more people have been either wounded or killed. While those larger datasets of multiple-victim shootings are useful for studying the broader problem of gun violence, our investigation provides an in-depth look at a distinct phenomenon—from the firearms used and mental health factors to the growing copycat problem. Tracking mass shootings is complex; we believe ours is the most useful approach for studying this specific phenomenon.



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The actual number of mass shootings from Mother Jones......

Here you go...the number of mass public shootings according to Mother Jones...rabid, anti gun, left wing news source.....not the NRA...

The list below comes from the old definition of 4 killed to make a shooting a mass shooting...if you now go to the link there are more than listed below...but that is because Mother Jones changed the list from the time I first posted it...and changed to obama's new standard of only 3 dead to make a mass shooting...



US Mass Shootings, 1982-2015: Data From Mother Jones' Investigation


2022...12

2021...6

2020....2

2019....10

2018... 12

2017: 11 ( 5 according to the old standard)

2016....6

2015....4 ( obama's new standard....7)

2014....2 (4)

2013....5

2012....7

2011....3

2010....1

2009....4

2008....3

2007....4

2006....3

2005...2

2004....1

2003...1

2002 not listed so more than likely 0

2001....1

2000....1

1999....5

1998...3

1997....2

1996....1

1995...1

1994...1

1993...4

1992...2

1991...3

1990...1

1989...2

1988....1

1987...1

1986...1

1985... not listed so probably 0

1984...2

1983...not listed so probably 0

1982...1


US Mass Shootings, 1982-2015: Data From Mother Jones' Investigation

US Mass Shootings, 1982-2015: Data From Mother Jones' Investigation


Deer kill 200 people a year.....

Lawn mowers between 90-100 people a year....

Ladders 300 people a year....

bathtubs 350 people a year...

Cars killed over 39,000 people in 2019...



Total number of people killed in mass public shootings by year...


2022....74
2021...43
2020....5
2019....73
2018.....93
2017........117
2016......71
2015......37
2014..... 9
2013..... 36
2012..... 72
2011..... 19
2010....9
2009...39
2008...18
2007...54
2006...21
2005...17
2004...5
2003...7
2002...not listed by mother jones
2001...5
2000...7
1999...42
1998...14
1997...9
1996...6
1995...6
1994....5
1993...23
1992...9
1991...35
1990...10
1989...15
1988...7
1987...6
1986...15
1985...(none listed)
1984...28
1983 (none listed)
1982...8

What I posted was from during Trump's time dopey, I was responding to a post made by someone who claimed they disappeared which they had not...You posted nothing to prove they did not happen during Trump, so get the fuck outta here.

 

[bodecea]

Found this through Bearing Arms.com, and Amy Swearer.......

an American mass murderer[note 1] who shot and killed thirteen people during a twelve-minute walk through his neighborhood in Camden, New Jersey, on September 6, 1949[5]

Why focusing on AR-15s for mass shootings is dumb

bearingarms.com

Howard Unruh - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

8 round magazine.......semi-auto pistol....killed more than the shooter in Nashville with an AR-15 rifle 6 killed.....more than the Louiseville shooter with an AR-15...6 killed


Again....it isnt the gun that matters....

What matters is how much free time the killer has in the gun free zone before someone with a gun forces them to stop murdering unarmed, defenseless victims......

And again.....in both Nashville and Louisville...what did the people on the 911 call beg the operator to do?

Send us a whole bunch of guys with guns to save us from this killer.......

And....?

 

[Moonglow]

And....?

If everyone is armed no one will die is his motto.

 

[Leweman]

If everyone is armed no one will die is his motto.

Less would. If democrats didn't continue to advocate for a society of the mentally ill less would die as well. But not no one.

 

[bodecea]

If everyone is armed no one will die is his motto.

More GUNS! More GUNS!!!

 

[2aguy]

More GUNS! More GUNS!!!

More guns in the hands of normal people........more criminals kept locked up instead of being released by democrat party judges, prosecutors and politicians...the actual cause of gun murder and crime....

 

[M14 Shooter]

Liberals see mass shootings - and the people killed in them - as a means to further their objective to place as many unnecessary and ineffective restrictions on the exercise of the right to kep and bear arms by the law abiding as they can.

Full stop.

 

[Bell Huey]

If everyone is armed no one will die is his motto.

When was the last time you heard of a mass shooting at a gun show Or shooting competition?

 

[M14 Shooter]

When was the last time you heard of a mass shooting at a gun show Or shooting competition?

Funny thing, that.
I was once on a firing line with maybe 500 other guys, all with 'assault weapons'.
Over a hundred thousand rounds expended.
Not one mass shooting. Not one accident.

 

[d0gbreath]

Funny how most of the mass shootings vanished when TRUMP was president.

Tons of shootings during obama and biden...very few under Trump.

It's as if the democrats are orchestrating the shootings for some "unknown" reason

In October 2017, a gunman shot and killed nearly 60 people at a music festival in Las Vegas.
In November 2017, 26 people were killed at a church in Sutherland Springs, Texas.
In February 2018, 17 people were killed at a high school in Parkland, Florida.
In May 2018, 10 people were killed at a high school in Santa Fe, Texas.
In October 2018, 11 people were killed at a synagogue in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania.
In November 2018, 12 people were killed at a restaurant in Thousand Oaks, California.
In May 2019, 12 people were shot and killed at an office building in Virginia Beach, Virginia.
In August 2019, 22 people were killed at a Walmart in El Paso, Texas.

That's a lot of deaths from vanished mass shootings.

 

[M14 Shooter]

In October 2017, a gunman shot and killed nearly 60 people at a music festival in Las Vegas.
In November 2017, 26 people were killed at a church in Sutherland Springs, Texas.
In February 2018, 17 people were killed at a high school in Parkland, Florida.
In May 2018, 10 people were killed at a high school in Santa Fe, Texas.
In October 2018, 11 people were killed at a synagogue in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania.
In November 2018, 12 people were killed at a restaurant in Thousand Oaks, California.
In May 2019, 12 people were shot and killed at an office building in Virginia Beach, Virginia.
In August 2019, 22 people were killed at a Walmart in El Paso, Texas.

That's a lot of deaths from vanished mass shootings.

That's 170 mass-shooting murders over 3 years, compared to about 42,000 total murder over the same time.
"A lot" is not the term that comes to mind.