Finally, a Democrat asked a Republican THE Question

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This morning on “Morning Joe”, there was a young Republican from some conservative publication going on about how if you want to improve the economy, you need to cut taxes for corporations and deregulate. In fact, you should stop making corporations pay any taxes because they only pass them on to the consumers. He said that taxing the wealthy was “wealth redistribution” and the ONLY way to grow the economy is put money into the hands of the wealthy.

When Republicans make this argument, Democrats, for some strange and unknown reason, rarely challenge them. Only this time, some old guy, I don’t know who he was, left the Republican gasping like a fish out of water.

I’m paraphrasing here, “You have to stop the ideological rhetoric. You know that doesn’t work. If it did, after a 2.4 trillion dollar tax cut with the top 1% getting MORE than 52% on top of the FACT that we are paying the lowest taxes in 50 years, AND all the Wall Street deregulation, our economy should be booming. If Republican ideology worked, our economy should be booming. Instead, we are on the brink of economic disaster. Explain how it worked. Just once. Tell us what went wrong”.

It was so revealing. The Republican couldn’t answer. He was so confident giving his lecture on “economics” and was completely dismantled.

This is what Democrats have to run on.

Gene Robinson came on and said Americans are like children having a “temper tantrum”. They are angry at Democrats for not fixing the Republican economic mess fast enough. They will probably vote Republican, even though they know Republicans created this economic mess, they want to “teach” Democrats a “lesson”, like children stomping their feet. It’s almost like “cutting off your nose to spite your face”.

In a way, it might be good. Can you just imagine what these radical right wingers will do once in office? They want to trash SS and Medicare and Medicaid. This will be the most ideology and ignorance driven congress ever. That will give Americans two more years to see exactly what the right is about. Two LONG years.

You think there will be a landslide now? Wait till then. I think electing right wing crazies will finally produce the “political awakening” that is long, long overdue.
 
The economy started to tank the day Democrats took control of Congress

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But then they will allow the corporations to BUY OUT our election system completely.


I hope you are right and IF they win the American public finnally learns its lesson.
 
The economy started to tank the day Democrats took control of Congress

docpage-recoverystats1.jpg

You can't really do anything without both houses. Democrats "CONTROLLED" the Senate 49 to 49.

Of course, none of the previous 6 years of Republican control had any impact. No, the economy tanked the very DAY Democrats took control 49 to 49.

Frank, crawl back under your rock.
This isn't "Ground Hog's Day".
Even you can't possibly believe your own nonsense.
 
The economy started to tank the day Democrats took control of Congress

docpage-recoverystats1.jpg

You can't really do anything without both houses. Democrats "CONTROLLED" the Senate 49 to 49.

Of course, none of the previous 6 years of Republican control had any impact. No, the economy tanked the very DAY Democrats took control 49 to 49.

Frank, crawl back under your rock.
This isn't "Ground Hog's Day".
Even you can't possibly believe your own nonsense.

The 6 years the Republicans controlled Congress we had a healthy economy and around 5-6% unemployment.

Obama and the Dems doubled unemployment and added record debt and deficits in the process.

Adios Nancy!
 
Somehow there is a group of people who think Wall Street makes something. They trade paper which represents REAL labor and production. Wall Street is much like the government in my mind. They produce nothing, but take a cut, which does not help the economy.

Wall Street and the government are doing well right now, yet unemployment grew last month. Deregulation of REAL businesses and investment in REAL businesses will move the economy forward.
 
The economy started to tank the day Democrats took control of Congress

docpage-recoverystats1.jpg

and began to recover as soon as Obama took office.

Thanks, Frank!

It's technically a recovery the same way a gnat can technically hump an elephant.

You're the one who posted a chart demonstrating a steep reversal in the jobs pictures beginning right about the day Obama took office.

Remember what the jobs chart looked like right after Bush took office?
 
We need massive corporate reform, and the days of CEOs and management believing they are over 500 times "better" than mid-level employees needs to be reigned in. 500 times is low balling it. I don't know what they are teaching in these universities for business ethics, but it's failing.

We need massive taxation on colleges and universities, clearly are big business.

Every American should pay into Social Security, millions of government workers currently don't. Then reform it.

Massive government reform, massive pay reviews and restructuring.

Salaries at so called "non-profit" organizations need to be taxed at an accelerated rate if over 100K a year. Many millionaires in the "non-profit" world. That needs to end.

Government union cash to Democrats, or to any Party needs to be outlawed. Using YOUR cash to make sure your government will NEVER be reformed.
 
The economy started to tank the day Democrats took control of Congress

docpage-recoverystats1.jpg

You can't really do anything without both houses. Democrats "CONTROLLED" the Senate 49 to 49.

Of course, none of the previous 6 years of Republican control had any impact. No, the economy tanked the very DAY Democrats took control 49 to 49.

Frank, crawl back under your rock.
This isn't "Ground Hog's Day".
Even you can't possibly believe your own nonsense.

The 6 years the Republicans controlled Congress we had a healthy economy and around 5-6% unemployment.

Obama and the Dems doubled unemployment and added record debt and deficits in the process.

Adios Nancy!

A healthy economy?

This was back in 2008:

U.S. unemployment rates under President Bush have reached a 14-year high. According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, unemployment climbed to 6.5 percent in October, as the country shed 240,000 jobs. U.S. unemployment rates under President Bush have certainly increased--for example, the unemployment rate for October 2007 was 4.7 percent. So far this year, the country has lost 1.2 million jobs, and over half of the decrease took place in just the last three months. Some suggest the situation could grow more bleak: Goldman Sachs projects the unemployment rate will reach 8.5 percent by the end of 2009. Another source I spoke with recently believes it could soar as high as 10 percent in the near future.

U.S. Unemployment Rates Under President Bush Continue to Climb - The Salary Reporter

Come on Frank, by the time Bush left office, the country was losing jobs at the rate of 750,000 a MONTH.

PLUS

It was about that time that factories in China and India really got going. Jobs that moved there DURING the Bush Administration.

And the Democrats controlled the Senate with a 49 to 49 majority?

Come on Frank, be honest. You can't possibly believe your own "spew".
 
Let's get back to the original premise which is that tired old "1% got a big break". Sounds like somebody's attempting to make the argument that 1% of the population is footing the bill.

It's worn out Marxist class envy bullshit. We have a tax system that is out of whack with 40+% paying no income taxes combined with politicians (pick a side, I don't care) spending money we don't have. The notion that we are going to tax our way out of this is retarded.
 
The majority of people whether they be Democrats or Republicans realize you can't spend money you don't have. Until we start putting adults in DC who won't treat the American taxpayer as a money tree that can be shaken at their very whim, we'll be in this boat. At the same time we have to stop demanding free breakfast, lunch and dinner and start having some higher expectations of ourselves and our fellow citizens.
 

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