Follow along with the video below to see how to install our site as a web app on your home screen.
Note: This feature currently requires accessing the site using the built-in Safari browser.
Desert Tortoises don't need to look for shade on hot summer days. They spend most of their lives underground in estivation, only waking up every one or two years when it rains.
I really wish the media would publicize the opinions of desert ecologists instead of the opinions of politicians.
There's PLENTY of dessert out there.
Why must these things be put on CONSERVATION land?
Or are you all just choosing to ignore the one truly germane part of this story because it is inconvenient for your Republican whiny assed points of view?
Um ... actually I am not Republican and I don't think it's a good idea to use desert any more than forest for this. The desert has an ecosystem that is just as easily harmed by such things. This is why "green" freaks are so ignorant, they see that only areas with green in them as being natural and pure. Hate to break it to you but deserts have just as much life in them and are just as important to the environment as any forest.
There's PLENTY of dessert out there.
Why must these things be put on CONSERVATION land?
Or are you all just choosing to ignore the one truly germane part of this story because it is inconvenient for your Republican whiny assed points of view?
Um ... actually I am not Republican and I don't think it's a good idea to use desert any more than forest for this. The desert has an ecosystem that is just as easily harmed by such things. This is why "green" freaks are so ignorant, they see that only areas with green in them as being natural and pure. Hate to break it to you but deserts have just as much life in them and are just as important to the environment as any forest.
hate to break it to you ... solar cells do not pollute nor does wind generators nor do they destroy habitat
Shogun ... proof you don't know much, glaring at us right there. The desert is an important part of the ecosystem of he world, just because you think it's ugly doesn't mean it's worthless. Look into what it does for the world and how much of an impact it would have to absorb all the energy that the sands reflect, all the life you would destroy, and all the other benefits the desert offers us as a species.
Shogun ... proof you don't know much, glaring at us right there. The desert is an important part of the ecosystem of he world, just because you think it's ugly doesn't mean it's worthless. Look into what it does for the world and how much of an impact it would have to absorb all the energy that the sands reflect, all the life you would destroy, and all the other benefits the desert offers us as a species.
heres a big surprise solar panels doesn't effect the ecosystem nor does wind generators ...
Or we can live in reality where our CURRENT President is against Nuclear energy, and the democrats in Congress are against nuclear. A President that plans to bankrupt the coal fired power plants and gas fired plants as well as natural gas. Is against Nuclear and insists GREEN is the wave of the future.
And then we get his own party ensuring no green gets built in any meaningful manner anywhere at all.
Great attempt at deflections though.
Pondering pointing out your huge and very visible mistake or letting someone else do it just for laughs ....
Aah hell, I never liked the pop star of a president, never will, never voted for him, and don't agree with anything he has offered yet ...
... clear enough fo you?
I'll be laughing at this idiotic post of RGS' for a loooong time now.
And yet your previous post was nothing more than a blatant attempt to run interference for this administration. Once again you stupid shit, OBAMA and the Democrats are opposed to Nuclear, and you and your couple friends do not change that. He has STATED he is against Nuclear as has the leadership of the Congress. He has STATED in plans to bankrupt Coal plants and that he intends to rape gas and natural gas plants as well.
And what do we get? We get HIS party, you know, the DEMOCRATS, opposing all efforts to create GREEN energy. No wind and no solar.
And we have you claiming otherwise.
WASHINGTON -- California's Mojave Desert may seem ideally suited for solar energy production, but concern over what several proposed projects might do to the aesthetics of the region and its tortoise population is setting up a potential clash between conservationists and companies seeking to develop renewable energy.
Nineteen companies have submitted applications to build solar or wind facilities on a parcel of 500,000 desert acres, but Sen. Dianne Feinstein said Friday such development would violate the spirit of what conservationists had intended when they donated much of the land to the public.
Feinstein said Friday she intends to push legislation that would turn the land into a national monument, which would allow for existing uses to continue while preventing future development.
Feinstein: Don't Spoil Our Desert With Solar Panels - Presidential Politics | Political News - FOXNews.com
Oh! how sweet,, no gas, no coal, no nuclear, kennedy don't want no windmills in his back yard and now feinstein don't want no damn solar panels either. you DUmb Democrats gonna freeze yer azzes off? How stupid can you get doyathink?
WASHINGTON -- California's Mojave Desert may seem ideally suited for solar energy production, but concern over what several proposed projects might do to the aesthetics of the region and its tortoise population is setting up a potential clash between conservationists and companies seeking to develop renewable energy.
Nineteen companies have submitted applications to build solar or wind facilities on a parcel of 500,000 desert acres, but Sen. Dianne Feinstein said Friday such development would violate the spirit of what conservationists had intended when they donated much of the land to the public.
Feinstein said Friday she intends to push legislation that would turn the land into a national monument, which would allow for existing uses to continue while preventing future development
Feinstein: Don't Spoil Our Desert With Solar Panels - Presidential Politics | Political News - FOXNews.com
Oh! how sweet,, no gas, no coal, no nuclear, kennedy don't want no windmills in his back yard and now feinstein don't want no damn solar panels either. you DUmb Democrats gonna freeze yer azzes off? How stupid can you get doyathink?
That's what happens when you involve envrionmentalists into the discussion. They whine and whine about how it'll endanger a species of bug or something even though it could stop global warming, which they also whine about.
Three Mile Island was a fluke, unlike Chernoble which was poorly maintained ancient technology (the fault of their government at the time). Our current nuke plants are excellent, and have less than a 10% of meltdown, even if they did have a meltdown their precautions for such an event would prevent any serious damage. Unlike coal, which has a 30% chance of explosion and no way to contain the damage to the environment, no matter how advanced the technology gets. As for solar, wind, etc. (not geothermal, which is actually a decent alternative just rare), they cause more harm than most people are willing to acknowledge, even in the desert which has a delicate ecosytem like any other location. They are still far behind and would require way too much space (the primary impact on the ecosystems). Not only above ground but also below, which in the desert causes a bigger impact than the above ground portions since the desert life requires large areas under the soil/sand/rock to survive. This is why I hate econuts, they just don't really know much about the ecosystems they so violently defend.
GeothermalKittenkoder, if I could ad something on Geothermal. Currently the most expensive power is geothermal. Its also unregulated and extremely polluting. Fortunately its all toxic heavy metals and radioactive materials so the pollution does not become airborne. Take a look at the dozen or so Geothermal plants on the Salton Sea. Each plant need a well, the wells are drilled 10,000 feet deep, to a pool of water sitting a bed of lave on the San Andreas fault. The wells are located up to three miles away from the plant, requireing a mile to three miles of 48" concrete lined steel pipes. Inside the pipes is the brine from the wells. One gallon of Brine weighs about 10 lbs compared to around 8 lbs for water. The extra 2 llbs is the toxic metals, cobalt 60, cesium, strontium, and a shitload of arsenic. The pipes travel along the Imperial valley farmland and the Pacific flyway for waterfowl. These pipes burst all the time, spewing the contents onto the farmland. The well is a violent well, it shakes and bounce three or four feet into the air, that shaking is transmitted up and down the pipeline all the way to the plant, tremendous stress, much damage, more maintenance required than any other source of power. The well are constantly moved as the pressure drops so they are constantly replacing the pipes.
Maintenance of the plant requires opening of the systems allowing the toxins out. I know, I was there, I even suffered arsenic burns, arsenic on the skin only penetrates the first few layers of skin so I was not poisoned. I worked all night, a pool of contaminated water below the system we were inspecting, crickets walking across the tiny pool, they die before they get across. The ones not in the pool are kind of fine, they just get the poison on thier legs. This plant is on the Pacific flyway for birds, millions, they eat the crickets, how much contamination I do not know, I have seen a grid of farmland on the wall of Cal Energy (I believe cal energy sold thier interest) that showed which farmland was bought due to accidents.
I have seen people dressed in more protective gear than I wear inside nuclear power plants.
Geothermal is a toxic witches brew.
WASHINGTON -- California's Mojave Desert may seem ideally suited for solar energy production, but concern over what several proposed projects might do to the aesthetics of the region and its tortoise population is setting up a potential clash between conservationists and companies seeking to develop renewable energy.
Nineteen companies have submitted applications to build solar or wind facilities on a parcel of 500,000 desert acres, but Sen. Dianne Feinstein said Friday such development would violate the spirit of what conservationists had intended when they donated much of the land to the public.
Feinstein said Friday she intends to push legislation that would turn the land into a national monument, which would allow for existing uses to continue while preventing future development.
Feinstein: Don't Spoil Our Desert With Solar Panels - Presidential Politics | Political News - FOXNews.com
Oh! how sweet,, no gas, no coal, no nuclear, kennedy don't want no windmills in his back yard and now feinstein don't want no damn solar panels either. you DUmb Democrats gonna freeze yer azzes off? How stupid can you get doyathink?
Seems she doesn't want to actually address the issue now, does it?The recent spike in gas prices is one more illustration of why our nation needs to end its addiction to oil, Senator Feinstein said. We need hybrids on the road, alternative fuels, new technologies, and real leadership. Its not time for more of the same. Its time for a fresh approach -- one that will lead to higher fuel economy, less reliance on foreign oil, and a major reduction in greenhouse gases. This is the major challenge of this century. How we address this issue will shape our nations future.
Sad fact is that we wont need any power, we wont produce anything, we wont have jobs.
We will pay more, be taxed more, give more to the entire world.
http://geoheat.oit.edu/bulletin/bull21-2/art1.pdfKittenkoder, if I could ad something on Geothermal. Currently the most expensive power is geothermal. Its also unregulated and extremely polluting. Fortunately its all toxic heavy metals and radioactive materials so the pollution does not become airborne. Take a look at the dozen or so Geothermal plants on the Salton Sea. Each plant need a well, the wells are drilled 10,000 feet deep, to a pool of water sitting a bed of lave on the San Andreas fault. The wells are located up to three miles away from the plant, requireing a mile to three miles of 48" concrete lined steel pipes. Inside the pipes is the brine from the wells. One gallon of Brine weighs about 10 lbs compared to around 8 lbs for water. The extra 2 llbs is the toxic metals, cobalt 60, cesium, strontium, and a shitload of arsenic. The pipes travel along the Imperial valley farmland and the Pacific flyway for waterfowl. These pipes burst all the time, spewing the contents onto the farmland. The well is a violent well, it shakes and bounce three or four feet into the air, that shaking is transmitted up and down the pipeline all the way to the plant, tremendous stress, much damage, more maintenance required than any other source of power. The well are constantly moved as the pressure drops so they are constantly replacing the pipes.
Maintenance of the plant requires opening of the systems allowing the toxins out. I know, I was there, I even suffered arsenic burns, arsenic on the skin only penetrates the first few layers of skin so I was not poisoned. I worked all night, a pool of contaminated water below the system we were inspecting, crickets walking across the tiny pool, they die before they get across. The ones not in the pool are kind of fine, they just get the poison on thier legs. This plant is on the Pacific flyway for birds, millions, they eat the crickets, how much contamination I do not know, I have seen a grid of farmland on the wall of Cal Energy (I believe cal energy sold thier interest) that showed which farmland was bought due to accidents.
I have seen people dressed in more protective gear than I wear inside nuclear power plants.
Geothermal is a toxic witches brew.
