Federal Prosecutor On Recently Obtained Wiretaps. Trumps Son Should Be Concerned

[Skylar]

Why would it be a "plot" to meet with a high-ranking official of Russia’s Central Bank?

Is that illegal or something?

EVERYTHING about meeting Russians is now ILLEGAL, EVERYTHING Russian is now ILLEGAL, so if you see ANYONE drinking a Black Russian or drinking Vodka then you MUST contact the FBI because those Traitor POS need airdropping into Gitmo or whatEVAH

Torshin, the man that Jr apparently met with was just named as the Russian handler of Mariia Butina, a woman indicted 2 days ago for conspiring against the US as a secret agent.

So not just any contact. But a meeting with the alleged handler of a Russian secret agent trying to infiltrate Washington politics.

And Mueller apparently has tapes of Jr and Torshin’s conversations leading up to the meeting.

What is interesting is the russians are trying to infiltrate the right wing of the USA. Which tells me they already control the left wing. How about you?

Apparently so. They've always had the leftists doing their bidding and want to take it to a new level by compromising the right.

It sure seems that way.

It really doesn’t. There’s a reason why Putin so clearly opposed Hillary and supported Trump. And it’s bit because the left was doing Russia’s bidding.

 

[westwall]

EVERYTHING about meeting Russians is now ILLEGAL, EVERYTHING Russian is now ILLEGAL, so if you see ANYONE drinking a Black Russian or drinking Vodka then you MUST contact the FBI because those Traitor POS need airdropping into Gitmo or whatEVAH

Torshin, the man that Jr apparently met with was just named as the Russian handler of Mariia Butina, a woman indicted 2 days ago for conspiring against the US as a secret agent.

So not just any contact. But a meeting with the alleged handler of a Russian secret agent trying to infiltrate Washington politics.

And Mueller apparently has tapes of Jr and Torshin’s conversations leading up to the meeting.

What is interesting is the russians are trying to infiltrate the right wing of the USA. Which tells me they already control the left wing. How about you?

Apparently so. They've always had the leftists doing their bidding and want to take it to a new level by compromising the right.

It sure seems that way.

It really doesn’t. There’s a reason why Putin so clearly opposed Hillary and supported Trump. And it’s bit because the left was doing Russia’s bidding.

How did he oppose the shrilary? Be specific.

 

[Skylar]

Why would it be a "plot" to meet with a high-ranking official of Russia’s Central Bank?

Is that illegal or something?

EVERYTHING about meeting Russians is now ILLEGAL, EVERYTHING Russian is now ILLEGAL, so if you see ANYONE drinking a Black Russian or drinking Vodka then you MUST contact the FBI because those Traitor POS need airdropping into Gitmo or whatEVAH

Torshin, the man that Jr apparently met with was just named as the Russian handler of Mariia Butina, a woman indicted 2 days ago for conspiring against the US as a secret agent.

So not just any contact. But a meeting with the alleged handler of a Russian secret agent trying to infiltrate Washington politics.

And Mueller apparently has tapes of Jr and Torshin’s conversations leading up to the meeting.

What is interesting is the russians are trying to infiltrate the right wing of the USA. Which tells me they already control the left wing. How about you?

Or.....that the right wing is fertile ground for the propaganda and conspiracy theories that the Russians are shucking.

Given that our president seems partial to increasingly disjointed conspiracies himself, it’s hardly a stretch

Oh, I think we know the real reason why...don't you? pootin already controlled the WH. They were sure that the shrilary was going to win, so they only needed to compromise the right wing.

Then Putin enacted US sanctions on Russia for the annexation of Crimea on himself?

That’s your working theory? That doesn’t make any sense

 

[JGalt]

Oh goody! reddit is sooooooo credible.

This was reported on Yahoo News in May. It’s gaining traction again now because the man that Trump Jr. met with was named as in the indictment as the Russian agents handler in the Butina NRA infiltration case two days ago.

The meeting between Trump Jr. and Torshin was apparently also at an NRA event. Which only underscores the problematic nature of the meeting.

Which just got exponentially more problematic for Jr. when she was ordered held until her trial without bail.

I'm sure Mr. Muellers prosecution team will be spending some quality time with her over the next few weeks.

There isn’t any reported contact between her and Jr.. But she was reportedly well embedded in the NRA and the Washington GOP.

This isn’t good news, to be sure.

Jr. apparently skipped Butina and went directly to Butina’s handler for the Russian government. And met Torshin at an NRA event. Just to emphasize the degree of Russian infiltration of the NRA.

This doesn’t look good.

So it's a crime to advocate for the Second Amendment in a foreign country?

Honestly, my head is starting to hurt from trying to keep up with all of the daily BS coming from the left. No crime has been committed here. Helping a Russian national learn to advocate for more freedom in her own country is not tantamount to spying.

 

[Skylar]

Torshin, the man that Jr apparently met with was just named as the Russian handler of Mariia Butina, a woman indicted 2 days ago for conspiring against the US as a secret agent.

So not just any contact. But a meeting with the alleged handler of a Russian secret agent trying to infiltrate Washington politics.

And Mueller apparently has tapes of Jr and Torshin’s conversations leading up to the meeting.

What is interesting is the russians are trying to infiltrate the right wing of the USA. Which tells me they already control the left wing. How about you?

Apparently so. They've always had the leftists doing their bidding and want to take it to a new level by compromising the right.

It sure seems that way.

It really doesn’t. There’s a reason why Putin so clearly opposed Hillary and supported Trump. And it’s bit because the left was doing Russia’s bidding.

How did he oppose the shrilary? Be specific.

By ordering an influence operation on the 2016 to benefit Trump and having the DNC servers hacked and data released. Read the Senate intel committees finding on the matter.

It was a republican led panel.

 

[Skylar]

Oh goody! reddit is sooooooo credible.

This was reported on Yahoo News in May. It’s gaining traction again now because the man that Trump Jr. met with was named as in the indictment as the Russian agents handler in the Butina NRA infiltration case two days ago.

The meeting between Trump Jr. and Torshin was apparently also at an NRA event. Which only underscores the problematic nature of the meeting.

Which just got exponentially more problematic for Jr. when she was ordered held until her trial without bail.

I'm sure Mr. Muellers prosecution team will be spending some quality time with her over the next few weeks.

There isn’t any reported contact between her and Jr.. But she was reportedly well embedded in the NRA and the Washington GOP.

This isn’t good news, to be sure.

Jr. apparently skipped Butina and went directly to Butina’s handler for the Russian government. And met Torshin at an NRA event. Just to emphasize the degree of Russian infiltration of the NRA.

This doesn’t look good.

So it's a crime to advocate for the Second Amendment in a foreign country?

Honestly, my head is starting to hurt from trying to keep up with all of the daily BS coming from the left. No crime has been committed here. Helping a Russian national learn to advocate for more freedom in her own country is not tantamount to spying.

It’s a crime to secretly operate as a Russian agent in the US.

As the indictment demonstrates elegantly.

 

[westwall]

EVERYTHING about meeting Russians is now ILLEGAL, EVERYTHING Russian is now ILLEGAL, so if you see ANYONE drinking a Black Russian or drinking Vodka then you MUST contact the FBI because those Traitor POS need airdropping into Gitmo or whatEVAH

Torshin, the man that Jr apparently met with was just named as the Russian handler of Mariia Butina, a woman indicted 2 days ago for conspiring against the US as a secret agent.

So not just any contact. But a meeting with the alleged handler of a Russian secret agent trying to infiltrate Washington politics.

And Mueller apparently has tapes of Jr and Torshin’s conversations leading up to the meeting.

What is interesting is the russians are trying to infiltrate the right wing of the USA. Which tells me they already control the left wing. How about you?

Or.....that the right wing is fertile ground for the propaganda and conspiracy theories that the Russians are shucking.

Given that our president seems partial to increasingly disjointed conspiracies himself, it’s hardly a stretch

Oh, I think we know the real reason why...don't you? pootin already controlled the WH. They were sure that the shrilary was going to win, so they only needed to compromise the right wing.

Then Putin enacted US sanctions on Russia for the annexation of Crimea on himself?

That’s your working theory? That doesn’t make any sense

Sanctions that harmed who exactly? Russia is a dictatorship. obummer was allowing the oligarchs to come and go as they pleased. Now, i will grant you he didn't treat them nearly as well as he treated his friends the mullahs in iran, where he gave them access to our banking systems that NO OTHER COUNTRY FOLLOWED, but how did those sanctions harm anyone except for the slowly growing middle class in russia?

 

[Skylar]

Torshin, the man that Jr apparently met with was just named as the Russian handler of Mariia Butina, a woman indicted 2 days ago for conspiring against the US as a secret agent.

So not just any contact. But a meeting with the alleged handler of a Russian secret agent trying to infiltrate Washington politics.

And Mueller apparently has tapes of Jr and Torshin’s conversations leading up to the meeting.

What is interesting is the russians are trying to infiltrate the right wing of the USA. Which tells me they already control the left wing. How about you?

Or.....that the right wing is fertile ground for the propaganda and conspiracy theories that the Russians are shucking.

Given that our president seems partial to increasingly disjointed conspiracies himself, it’s hardly a stretch

Oh, I think we know the real reason why...don't you? pootin already controlled the WH. They were sure that the shrilary was going to win, so they only needed to compromise the right wing.

Then Putin enacted US sanctions on Russia for the annexation of Crimea on himself?

That’s your working theory? That doesn’t make any sense

Sanctions that harmed who exactly? Russia is a dictatorship. obummer was allowing the oligarchs to come and go as they pleased. Now, i will grant you he didn't treat them nearly as well as he treated his friends the mullahs in iran, where he gave them access to our banking systems that NO OTHER COUNTRY FOLLOWED, but how did those sanctions harm anyone except for the slowly growing middle class in russia?

Sanctions that harmed Russia. The russsian economy tanked after US sanctions. It’s still languishing today.

Per your “Putin already controlled the White House” conspiracy, it was Purin that ordered the sanctions against his own country, Putin that intentionally yanked his own economy.

Um.....that doesn’t make any sense.

 

[JGalt]

EVERYTHING about meeting Russians is now ILLEGAL, EVERYTHING Russian is now ILLEGAL, so if you see ANYONE drinking a Black Russian or drinking Vodka then you MUST contact the FBI because those Traitor POS need airdropping into Gitmo or whatEVAH

Torshin, the man that Jr apparently met with was just named as the Russian handler of Mariia Butina, a woman indicted 2 days ago for conspiring against the US as a secret agent.

So not just any contact. But a meeting with the alleged handler of a Russian secret agent trying to infiltrate Washington politics.

And Mueller apparently has tapes of Jr and Torshin’s conversations leading up to the meeting.

What is interesting is the russians are trying to infiltrate the right wing of the USA. Which tells me they already control the left wing. How about you?

Apparently so. They've always had the leftists doing their bidding and want to take it to a new level by compromising the right.

It sure seems that way.

It really doesn’t. There’s a reason why Putin so clearly opposed Hillary and supported Trump. And it’s bit because the left was doing Russia’s bidding.

Putin never "supported" Donald Trump. He as did the entire Democrat population of this country and the media, were 110% sure that Hillary would win the election. Therefore the Russians did everything they could do to discredit her.

But she did not win, Trump won. And now they are doing everything they can to discredit Trump. And the media and the left-wing is playing right into Putin's grasp by going along with it.

It's not that hard to figure out. You people need to start using your heads for something other than a hat rack.

 

[EvilEyeFleegle]

Oh goody! reddit is sooooooo credible.

This was reported on Yahoo News in May. It’s gaining traction again now because the man that Trump Jr. met with was named as in the indictment as the Russian agents handler in the Butina NRA infiltration case two days ago.

The meeting between Trump Jr. and Torshin was apparently also at an NRA event. Which only underscores the problematic nature of the meeting.

Which just got exponentially more problematic for Jr. when she was ordered held until her trial without bail.

I'm sure Mr. Muellers prosecution team will be spending some quality time with her over the next few weeks.

There isn’t any reported contact between her and Jr.. But she was reportedly well embedded in the NRA and the Washington GOP.

This isn’t good news, to be sure.

Jr. apparently skipped Butina and went directly to Butina’s handler for the Russian government. And met Torshin at an NRA event. Just to emphasize the degree of Russian infiltration of the NRA.

This doesn’t look good.

So it's a crime to advocate for the Second Amendment in a foreign country?

Honestly, my head is starting to hurt from trying to keep up with all of the daily BS coming from the left. No crime has been committed here. Helping a Russian national learn to advocate for more freedom in her own country is not tantamount to spying.

LoL...she would be a lucky woman to have you on the jury. Believe it..there will be a jury....if not the one she faces in her case...then the grand jury that hears her statement..either one will work.

BTW, I see the NRA as the unwitting victim here...the Russian agitprop operation target both sides, with the goal of fueling the fires of our culture wars.

 

[westwall]

What is interesting is the russians are trying to infiltrate the right wing of the USA. Which tells me they already control the left wing. How about you?

Apparently so. They've always had the leftists doing their bidding and want to take it to a new level by compromising the right.

It sure seems that way.

It really doesn’t. There’s a reason why Putin so clearly opposed Hillary and supported Trump. And it’s bit because the left was doing Russia’s bidding.

How did he oppose the shrilary? Be specific.

By ordering an influence operation on the 2016 to benefit Trump and having the DNC servers hacked and data released. Read the Senate intel committees finding on the matter.

It was a republican led panel.

To date there is no credible evidence that the "hack" of the dnc was anything more than an inside job. I guess you missed the part where pootins troops actually played both sides of every issue?

"For some lawmakers, they raised questions about whether Russia was successful in swaying public opinion, in Trump’s favor or otherwise. For Facebook, the ads deepen the reckoning over the company’s responsibility in society, and especially in elections.



The 3,519 ads, released Thursday by Democrats on the House Intelligence Committee, were posted between 2015 and 2017. They were designed to draw clicks from people who had liked Facebook groups on both sides of emotional issues involving gun regulations, Muslims, gay rights, immigration, African-Americans -- and various candidates.



Representative Adam Schiff of California, the Intelligence panel’s ranking Democrat, said Facebook Inc. cooperated with the committee to make those ads public to help prevent similar abuse in the future.

“The only way we can begin to inoculate ourselves against a future attack is to see first-hand the types of messages, themes and imagery the Russians used to divide us,” Schiff said in a statement."

Terms of Service Violation

 

[Skylar]

Apparently so. They've always had the leftists doing their bidding and want to take it to a new level by compromising the right.

It sure seems that way.

It really doesn’t. There’s a reason why Putin so clearly opposed Hillary and supported Trump. And it’s bit because the left was doing Russia’s bidding.

How did he oppose the shrilary? Be specific.

By ordering an influence operation on the 2016 to benefit Trump and having the DNC servers hacked and data released. Read the Senate intel committees finding on the matter.

It was a republican led panel.

To date there is no credible evidence that the "hack" of the dnc was anything more than an inside job. I guess you missed the part where pootins troops actually played both sides of every issue?

"For some lawmakers, they raised questions about whether Russia was successful in swaying public opinion, in Trump’s favor or otherwise. For Facebook, the ads deepen the reckoning over the company’s responsibility in society, and especially in elections.



The 3,519 ads, released Thursday by Democrats on the House Intelligence Committee, were posted between 2015 and 2017. They were designed to draw clicks from people who had liked Facebook groups on both sides of emotional issues involving gun regulations, Muslims, gay rights, immigration, African-Americans -- and various candidates.



Representative Adam Schiff of California, the Intelligence panel’s ranking Democrat, said Facebook Inc. cooperated with the committee to make those ads public to help prevent similar abuse in the future.

“The only way we can begin to inoculate ourselves against a future attack is to see first-hand the types of messages, themes and imagery the Russians used to divide us,” Schiff said in a statement."

Terms of Service Violation

The US intelligence agencies and the Senate Intel report say differenty. The Mueller indictments say differently.

Given US intel, the Senate Report and 12 indictments on one hand.....and you in the other, I’m going with US intel, the Senate Report and the 12 indictments.

I would argue any rational person would.

 

[Skylar]

Senate intelligence leaders: Russians schemed to help Trump


Do you dispute the senate intel committee findings? If so, why?

 

[Skylar]

Torshin, the man that Jr apparently met with was just named as the Russian handler of Mariia Butina, a woman indicted 2 days ago for conspiring against the US as a secret agent.

So not just any contact. But a meeting with the alleged handler of a Russian secret agent trying to infiltrate Washington politics.

And Mueller apparently has tapes of Jr and Torshin’s conversations leading up to the meeting.

What is interesting is the russians are trying to infiltrate the right wing of the USA. Which tells me they already control the left wing. How about you?

Apparently so. They've always had the leftists doing their bidding and want to take it to a new level by compromising the right.

It sure seems that way.

It really doesn’t. There’s a reason why Putin so clearly opposed Hillary and supported Trump. And it’s bit because the left was doing Russia’s bidding.

Putin never "supported" Donald Trump. He as did the entire Democrat population of this country and the media, were 110% sure that Hillary would win the election. Therefore the Russians did everything they could do to discredit her.

But she did not win, Trump won. And now they are doing everything they can to discredit Trump. And the media and the left-wing is playing right into Putin's grasp by going along with it.

It's not that hard to figure out. You people need to start using your heads for something other than a hat rack.

You say that Putin never supported Donald Trump. The US Intel leadership said this:

“The assessment, which U.S. intelligence leaders issued weeks before Trump’s inauguration in January 2017, concluded that Russian President Vladimir Putin had ordered an “influence campaign intended to undermine public faith in the US democratic process, denigrate Secretary Clinton, and harm her electability and potential presidency.” It added that the Russians eventually developed “a clear preference” for Trump, and in time “aspired to help President-elect Trump’s election chances when possible by discrediting Secretary Clinton and publicly contrasting her unfavorably to him.”

Senate intelligence leaders: Russians schemed to help Trump

Why would I ignore them and believe you?

 

[Skylar]

also, west wall.......if Putin controlled the White House, why did Putin enact sanctions against Russia?

Your conspiracy simply makes no sense.

 

[westwall]

also, west wall.......if Putin controlled the White House, why did Putin enact sanctions against Russia?

Your conspiracy simply makes no sense.

I think you meant to say obummer, but regardless, you still havn't shown us how those sanctions harmed any of pootins biddies. Sanctions are supposed to DO something to your target. obummers sanctions were lip service only. Troops under obummer went out of their way to not interfere with anything that pootins troops were doing. Troops under the trump admin have KILLED hundreds of them.

You folks pay all sorts of attention to pretty words. Words that mean, and do nothing. I care about the actions that our presidents take, and obummer did nothing, and trumps admin have killed them. obummer refused to sell arms to the countries that russia is targeting for invasion, trump has allowed it. So, in every measure that we have, obummer did pootins bidding, and trump hasn't.

 

[JGalt]

What is interesting is the russians are trying to infiltrate the right wing of the USA. Which tells me they already control the left wing. How about you?

Apparently so. They've always had the leftists doing their bidding and want to take it to a new level by compromising the right.

It sure seems that way.

It really doesn’t. There’s a reason why Putin so clearly opposed Hillary and supported Trump. And it’s bit because the left was doing Russia’s bidding.

Putin never "supported" Donald Trump. He as did the entire Democrat population of this country and the media, were 110% sure that Hillary would win the election. Therefore the Russians did everything they could do to discredit her.

But she did not win, Trump won. And now they are doing everything they can to discredit Trump. And the media and the left-wing is playing right into Putin's grasp by going along with it.

It's not that hard to figure out. You people need to start using your heads for something other than a hat rack.

You say that Putin never supported Donald Trump. The US Intel leadership said this:

“The assessment, which U.S. intelligence leaders issued weeks before Trump’s inauguration in January 2017, concluded that Russian President Vladimir Putin had ordered an “influence campaign intended to undermine public faith in the US democratic process, denigrate Secretary Clinton, and harm her electability and potential presidency.” It added that the Russians eventually developed “a clear preference” for Trump, and in time “aspired to help President-elect Trump’s election chances when possible by discrediting Secretary Clinton and publicly contrasting her unfavorably to him.”

Senate intelligence leaders: Russians schemed to help Trump

Why would I ignore them and believe you?

Any Russian intent to "help" Donald Trump far outshadows what they did to hurt Hillary's campaign. You can bet that even the Russians were 110% sure that she would be the next President. I seriously doubt that Donald Trump himself even believed that he would win, but he did.

Is this a great country or what?

 

[Skylar]

also, west wall.......if Putin controlled the White House, why did Putin enact sanctions against Russia?

Your conspiracy simply makes no sense.

I think you meant to say obummer, but regardless, you still havn't shown us how those sanctions harmed any of pootins biddies. Sanctions are supposed to DO something to your target. obummers sanctions were lip service only. Troops under obummer went out of their way to not interfere with anything that pootins troops were doing. Troops under the trump admin have KILLED hundreds of them.

You folks pay all sorts of attention to pretty words. Words that mean, and do nothing. I care about the actions that our presidents take, and obummer did nothing, and trumps admin have killed them. obummer refused to sell arms to the countries that russia is targeting for invasion, trump has allowed it. So, in every measure that we have, obummer did pootins bidding, and trump hasn't.

I’ve shown that they did and were Intended to inflict economic harm to Russia. I’ve even shown you exactly how it happened and was intended to happen, directly from NATO.

“Furthermore, the combined effect of these sanctions and of the fall in oil prices caused significant downward pressure on the value of the Rouble and increased capital flight.

At the same time, the sanctions on access to financing forced the Russian state to use part of its foreign exchange reserves to shore up the sanctioned entities.

These developments forced the hand of the Central Bank of Russia, which abruptly ceased to defend the value of the Rouble and hike interest rates in December 2014.”

Sanctions after Crimea: Have they worked?

Interest rate hikes, the ruble in free fall, flight of capital out of Russia, depletion of their foreign exchange reserves. And per your conspiracy......Putin did this to Russia.

Why? Why would PUtin enact crippling sanctions that knocked a full half a percent off their GDP......per year?

Your conspiracy makes no sense.

 

[deanrd]

The Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) has received wiretaps obtained by Spanish police which implicate Donald Trump Jr. in a plot to meet with Alexander Torshin, a high-ranking official of Russia’s Central Bank, according to a federal prosecutor in Spain on Friday. And, the prosecutor notes, those wiretaps don’t bode well for the president’s son.

r/politics - Federal Prosecutor on Recently Obtained Wiretaps: ‘Trump’s Son Should be Concerned’

You shouldn't us reddit as a "source". Let me fix that for you:

Prosecutor Said ‘Trump’s Son Should be Concerned’ About Wiretaps of Butina’s Alleged Handler

May 3-6, 2016: Trump Jr. Meets with Kremlin-Linked Banker at NRA Convention

The FBI has obtained wiretaps of a Putin ally tied to the NRA who met with Trump Jr. during the campaign

 

[cnm]

It's capable of shooting 3" groups at 100 yards with iron sights.

Aperture sights will shoot as good groups as optical sights.