FBI Unable To Do The Job

[PoliticalChic]

Just today [4/21/13] Representative Peter King, interviewed on Fox News Sunday, described five examples where the FBI interviewed potential threats, found them benign, or didn't act quickly enough.... and they went on to commit terrorist attacks.


1. Tamerlan Tsarnaev " The FBI was alerted by Russia's security services to serious new concerns about one of the Boston bomb suspects as recently as last November,... the agency was accused of "dropping the ball" over the case, NBC News reported that Tamerlan Tsarnaev had been seen making six visits to a known Islamic militant in a mosque in the Russian republic of Dagestan." Boston bomber: FBI 'dropped the ball' over Tamerlan Tsarnaev - Telegraph



2. Army Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan
a. "The emails attracted the attention of FBI and anti-terrorism task force agents in December 2008, and eventually prompted them to dig up Hasan's personnel records and evaluation reports. But gaps in the bureau's systems, poor training, antiquated technologies and an underlying fear that approaching Hasan would reveal the ongoing investigation into Awlaki prevented the FBI from pursuing the matter much further." Fort Hood Shooting: FBI Ignored Evidence Against Nidal Hasan For Political Correctness, Report Says



3. The 2009 Little Rock recruiting office shooting took place on June 1, 2009, when the American Abdulhakim Mujahid Muhammad, born Carlos Leon Bledsoe, opened fire
with a rifle in a drive-by shooting on soldiers in front of a United States military recruiting office in Little Rock, Arkansas. 2009 Little Rock recruiting office shooting - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

a. "... was under investigation by the FBI's Joint Terrorist Task Force since his return from Yemen." Abdulhakim Mujahid Muhammad, Recruiter Shooting Suspect, Under FBI Investigation - ABC News



4. David Coleman Headley (born Daood Sayed Gilani; 30 June 1960) is a Pakistani-American from Chicago who conspired with the Lashkar-e-Taiba group[1][2][3] and, he claims, Pakistani military officers[3][4][5] in the numerous 2008 Mumbai attacks and other terrorist activity. David Headley - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

a. " U.S. officials say Headley simply slipped through the cracks. If that is true, his story is a trail of bureaucratic dysfunction." The American Behind India?s 9/11?And How U.S. Botched Chances to Stop Him - ProPublica



5. Anwar al-Awlaki... was an American[7] and Yemeni imam.[8][9] U.S. government officials said that he was a senior talent recruiter and motivator who was involved in planning terrorist operations for the Islamist militant groupal-Qaeda Anwar al-Awlaki - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

a. March 2000: FBI closes its investigation, stating “the imam … does not meet the criterion for [further] investigation.” (Congressional Joint Inquiry on 9/11) The Anwar al-Awlaki Timeline







"The FBI is facing scrutiny over how it decided a Boston Marathonbombing suspect had no terrorist links after agents questioned him less than two years ago.
Tamerlan Tsarnaev, 26, killed early Friday in a shootout with police, was interviewed by bureau agents in summer 2011 at the request of a foreign government, identified by a federal law enforcement source as Russia. The FBI found no links to terrorism and released him.

King noted that on two occasions the FBI interviewed or investigated people who went on to commit terror acts on U.S. soil in 2009:Abdulhakim Mujahid Muhammad, who is serving a life sentence for killing an Army private at a Little Rock, Ark., recruiting station, and Army Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan, charged with killing 13 people at Fort Hood, Texas."
Rep. Peter King questions FBI's 2011 investigation of Tamerlan Tsarnaev


" WASHINGTON -- Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) said the FBI had dropped the ball in investigating Boston bombing suspect Tamerlan Tsarnaev in 2011, after the Russian government had raised concerns to U.S. authorities that Tsarnaev was a follower of radical Islam.
"Once you're brought to attention by a foreign government, I think you should have a red flag put then, to be taken off later," Graham said on CNN's "State of the Union" Sunday. "The ball was dropped in one of two ways -- the FBI missed a lot of things, [or] there's one potential answer [that] our laws do not allow to follow up in a sound solid way. There was a lot to be learned from this guy. He was on websites talking about killing Americans. He went overseas ... he was clearly talking about radical ideas. He was visiting radical areas."
Lindsey Graham: FBI 'Dropped The Ball' With Boston Bombing Suspect Tamerlan Tsarnaev

 

[Mad Scientist]

5. Anwar al-Awlaki... was an American[7] and Yemeni imam.[8][9] U.S. government officials said that he was a senior talent recruiter and motivator who was involved in planning terrorist operations for the Islamist militant groupal-Qaeda Anwar al-Awlaki - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

a. March 2000: FBI closes its investigation, stating “the imam … does not meet the criterion for [further] investigation.” (Congressional Joint Inquiry on 9/11) The Anwar al-Awlaki Timeline

Al Awlaki? You mean the guy the FBI was "running as an Agent"?

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPyQmyWjxfE]CIA Chief: Anwar al-Awlaki was US asset - YouTube[/ame]

 

[t_polkow]

Just today [4/21/13] Representative Peter King, interviewed on Fox News Sunday, described five examples where the FBI interviewed potential threats, found them benign, or didn't act quickly enough.... and they went on to commit terrorist attacks.


1. Tamerlan Tsarnaev " The FBI was alerted by Russia's security services to serious new concerns about one of the Boston bomb suspects as recently as last November,... the agency was accused of "dropping the ball" over the case, NBC News reported that Tamerlan Tsarnaev had been seen making six visits to a known Islamic militant in a mosque in the Russian republic of Dagestan." Boston bomber: FBI 'dropped the ball' over Tamerlan Tsarnaev - Telegraph



2. Army Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan
a. "The emails attracted the attention of FBI and anti-terrorism task force agents in December 2008, and eventually prompted them to dig up Hasan's personnel records and evaluation reports. But gaps in the bureau's systems, poor training, antiquated technologies and an underlying fear that approaching Hasan would reveal the ongoing investigation into Awlaki prevented the FBI from pursuing the matter much further." Fort Hood Shooting: FBI Ignored Evidence Against Nidal Hasan For Political Correctness, Report Says



3. The 2009 Little Rock recruiting office shooting took place on June 1, 2009, when the American Abdulhakim Mujahid Muhammad, born Carlos Leon Bledsoe, opened fire
with a rifle in a drive-by shooting on soldiers in front of a United States military recruiting office in Little Rock, Arkansas. 2009 Little Rock recruiting office shooting - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

a. "... was under investigation by the FBI's Joint Terrorist Task Force since his return from Yemen." Abdulhakim Mujahid Muhammad, Recruiter Shooting Suspect, Under FBI Investigation - ABC News



4. David Coleman Headley (born Daood Sayed Gilani; 30 June 1960) is a Pakistani-American from Chicago who conspired with the Lashkar-e-Taiba group[1][2][3] and, he claims, Pakistani military officers[3][4][5] in the numerous 2008 Mumbai attacks and other terrorist activity. David Headley - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

a. " U.S. officials say Headley simply slipped through the cracks. If that is true, his story is a trail of bureaucratic dysfunction." The American Behind India?s 9/11?And How U.S. Botched Chances to Stop Him - ProPublica



5. Anwar al-Awlaki... was an American[7] and Yemeni imam.[8][9] U.S. government officials said that he was a senior talent recruiter and motivator who was involved in planning terrorist operations for the Islamist militant groupal-Qaeda Anwar al-Awlaki - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

a. March 2000: FBI closes its investigation, stating “the imam … does not meet the criterion for [further] investigation.” (Congressional Joint Inquiry on 9/11) The Anwar al-Awlaki Timeline







"The FBI is facing scrutiny over how it decided a Boston Marathonbombing suspect had no terrorist links after agents questioned him less than two years ago.
Tamerlan Tsarnaev, 26, killed early Friday in a shootout with police, was interviewed by bureau agents in summer 2011 at the request of a foreign government, identified by a federal law enforcement source as Russia. The FBI found no links to terrorism and released him.

King noted that on two occasions the FBI interviewed or investigated people who went on to commit terror acts on U.S. soil in 2009:Abdulhakim Mujahid Muhammad, who is serving a life sentence for killing an Army private at a Little Rock, Ark., recruiting station, and Army Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan, charged with killing 13 people at Fort Hood, Texas."
Rep. Peter King questions FBI's 2011 investigation of Tamerlan Tsarnaev


" WASHINGTON -- Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) said the FBI had dropped the ball in investigating Boston bombing suspect Tamerlan Tsarnaev in 2011, after the Russian government had raised concerns to U.S. authorities that Tsarnaev was a follower of radical Islam.
"Once you're brought to attention by a foreign government, I think you should have a red flag put then, to be taken off later," Graham said on CNN's "State of the Union" Sunday. "The ball was dropped in one of two ways -- the FBI missed a lot of things, [or] there's one potential answer [that] our laws do not allow to follow up in a sound solid way. There was a lot to be learned from this guy. He was on websites talking about killing Americans. He went overseas ... he was clearly talking about radical ideas. He was visiting radical areas."
Lindsey Graham: FBI 'Dropped The Ball' With Boston Bombing Suspect Tamerlan Tsarnaev

The FBI should take a look at ALL that were let into this country in the past 25 years and those who were given citizenship.

 

[Truthmatters]

not very freedom loving of you OP

 

[boedicca]

It's too bad we have a White House that is rather disinterested in the terrorist threat.

 

[Truthmatters]

your proof of that is??????

 

[boedicca]

Benghazi.

Fort Hood.

To name two "Proofs".

 

[Oddball]

Department of Fatherland Security failed to do the job.

USAPATRIOT Act failed to do the job.

Janet Incompetano failed to do the job.

The FBI, BATF and Federal Marshals failed to do the job.

"If you see something, say something" failed to do the job.

The Boston Police (they let a wounded suspect escape, ferchrissakes!) failed to do the job.

The media failed to do the job.

But let's all join hands, sing "God Bless America" and make it all better.

 

[boedicca]

Wait a miniute! Didn't the Obamanoids launch ATTACKWATCH.com????

Oh. Nevermind. Wrong type of ATTACKS.

 

[edthecynic]

Rep. Peter King Calls on FBI to put him under Close Surveillance and Profile Redheads | Informed Comment

“Back in the 1980s, I admitted to being a supporter of the Irish Republican Army. By that time, it had assassinated Lord Mountbatten, killed Airey Neve by car bomb outside Westminster, killed 18 British soldiers at the Warrenpoint ambush, bombed the Wimpy Bar on Oxford Street, killing Kenneth Howorth, committed he Hyde Park and Regents Park bombings in London, killing eleven British troops; bombed Harrods Department store, killing 6 people, including one American and wounding 90 (including another American) during Christmas shopping. Just a year later, the IRA, which I supported, tried to kill British Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher, killing 5 others and injuring more. I once said, “If civilians are killed in an attack on a military installation, it is certainly regrettable, but I will not morally blame the IRA for it.”

“In 1983 I complained bitterly about suspected IRA terrorists being held for 7 days with no contact with lawyers, about them having no bail set and having to wait as much as 2 years to be tried, and about the use of informers to convict them:”

“The New York Times, November 20, 1983, Sunday, Late City Final Edition, KING PRESSES CASE ON IRISH ISSUE, BYLINE: By FRANK LYNN, SECTION: Section 11LI; Page 16, Column 5; Long Island Weekly Desk

Nassau County’s Comptroller, Peter T. King, a 39-year-old Republican, has been deeply concerned about the Northern Ireland controversy and, at the moment, is probably the most active New York politician on an issue that even most Irish or American politicians tend to steer clear of . . . Indeed, Mr. King is one of several Irish-Americans being considered for grand marshal of the St. Patrick’s Day parade next year, the post that became controversial last March with the designation of Michael Flannery, an Irish Republican Army supporter, to lead the parade. Mr. King is also a supporter of the I.R.A., but he says he sees the most immediate issue in Northern Ireland today as a question of civil rights for Northern Irish Catholics and human rights for I.R.A. prisoners and defendants and their families. Mr. King, a grandson of Irish immigrants, said that he had been interested in the Northern Ireland question for many years but that he became more active since being elected Comptroller. ”I felt,” he said, ”I’d be in a position to do something as a public official; it carries more weight.” Mr. King said he has been told that Nassau Republican polls indicated that his popularity has been somewhat diminished by his outspoken position.. .

Popular or not, he recently returned from still another visit to strife-torn Northern Ireland – this time to monitor two trials at which I.R.A. informers were acting as witnesses against their former colleagues. Mr. King, a lawyer, has written a report of what he contends are unjust trials that ”would never be tolerated in the United States or England.”

The Comptroller said that defendants were being convicted on the uncorroborated testimony of informers;

that there were no jury trials for accused I.R.A. members;

that defendants, even in noncapital cases, were denied bail and waited trial for as long as two years;

that I.R.A. suspects could be held and questioned for up to seven days without being able to contact lawyers or family;

that trial spectators were not allowed to take notes and were required to give their names and addresses, a practice that Mr. King said was ”inherently intimidating,”

and that defendants could not request changes of venue or changes of judges on the ground of prejudice.

Mr. King said that beyond the trials, relatives visiting I.R.A. prisoners had to wait outside the prison for up to an hour where, he said, ”they are subjected to public ridicule.”

 

[PoliticalChic]

not very freedom loving of you OP

How so?

 

[PoliticalChic]

Just today [4/21/13] Representative Peter King, interviewed on Fox News Sunday, described five examples where the FBI interviewed potential threats, found them benign, or didn't act quickly enough.... and they went on to commit terrorist attacks.


1. Tamerlan Tsarnaev " The FBI was alerted by Russia's security services to serious new concerns about one of the Boston bomb suspects as recently as last November,... the agency was accused of "dropping the ball" over the case, NBC News reported that Tamerlan Tsarnaev had been seen making six visits to a known Islamic militant in a mosque in the Russian republic of Dagestan." Boston bomber: FBI 'dropped the ball' over Tamerlan Tsarnaev - Telegraph



2. Army Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan
a. "The emails attracted the attention of FBI and anti-terrorism task force agents in December 2008, and eventually prompted them to dig up Hasan's personnel records and evaluation reports. But gaps in the bureau's systems, poor training, antiquated technologies and an underlying fear that approaching Hasan would reveal the ongoing investigation into Awlaki prevented the FBI from pursuing the matter much further." Fort Hood Shooting: FBI Ignored Evidence Against Nidal Hasan For Political Correctness, Report Says



3. The 2009 Little Rock recruiting office shooting took place on June 1, 2009, when the American Abdulhakim Mujahid Muhammad, born Carlos Leon Bledsoe, opened fire
with a rifle in a drive-by shooting on soldiers in front of a United States military recruiting office in Little Rock, Arkansas. 2009 Little Rock recruiting office shooting - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

a. "... was under investigation by the FBI's Joint Terrorist Task Force since his return from Yemen." Abdulhakim Mujahid Muhammad, Recruiter Shooting Suspect, Under FBI Investigation - ABC News



4. David Coleman Headley (born Daood Sayed Gilani; 30 June 1960) is a Pakistani-American from Chicago who conspired with the Lashkar-e-Taiba group[1][2][3] and, he claims, Pakistani military officers[3][4][5] in the numerous 2008 Mumbai attacks and other terrorist activity. David Headley - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

a. " U.S. officials say Headley simply slipped through the cracks. If that is true, his story is a trail of bureaucratic dysfunction." The American Behind India?s 9/11?And How U.S. Botched Chances to Stop Him - ProPublica



5. Anwar al-Awlaki... was an American[7] and Yemeni imam.[8][9] U.S. government officials said that he was a senior talent recruiter and motivator who was involved in planning terrorist operations for the Islamist militant groupal-Qaeda Anwar al-Awlaki - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

a. March 2000: FBI closes its investigation, stating “the imam … does not meet the criterion for [further] investigation.” (Congressional Joint Inquiry on 9/11) The Anwar al-Awlaki Timeline







"The FBI is facing scrutiny over how it decided a Boston Marathonbombing suspect had no terrorist links after agents questioned him less than two years ago.
Tamerlan Tsarnaev, 26, killed early Friday in a shootout with police, was interviewed by bureau agents in summer 2011 at the request of a foreign government, identified by a federal law enforcement source as Russia. The FBI found no links to terrorism and released him.

King noted that on two occasions the FBI interviewed or investigated people who went on to commit terror acts on U.S. soil in 2009:Abdulhakim Mujahid Muhammad, who is serving a life sentence for killing an Army private at a Little Rock, Ark., recruiting station, and Army Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan, charged with killing 13 people at Fort Hood, Texas."
Rep. Peter King questions FBI's 2011 investigation of Tamerlan Tsarnaev


" WASHINGTON -- Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) said the FBI had dropped the ball in investigating Boston bombing suspect Tamerlan Tsarnaev in 2011, after the Russian government had raised concerns to U.S. authorities that Tsarnaev was a follower of radical Islam.
"Once you're brought to attention by a foreign government, I think you should have a red flag put then, to be taken off later," Graham said on CNN's "State of the Union" Sunday. "The ball was dropped in one of two ways -- the FBI missed a lot of things, [or] there's one potential answer [that] our laws do not allow to follow up in a sound solid way. There was a lot to be learned from this guy. He was on websites talking about killing Americans. He went overseas ... he was clearly talking about radical ideas. He was visiting radical areas."
Lindsey Graham: FBI 'Dropped The Ball' With Boston Bombing Suspect Tamerlan Tsarnaev

The FBI should take a look at ALL that were let into this country in the past 25 years and those who were given citizenship.

Nutty as you are, Porky, I'd still let ya' in!

 

[PoliticalChic]

Department of Fatherland Security failed to do the job.

USAPATRIOT Act failed to do the job.

Janet Incompetano failed to do the job.

The FBI, BATF and Federal Marshals failed to do the job.

"If you see something, say something" failed to do the job.

The Boston Police (they let a wounded suspect escape, ferchrissakes!) failed to do the job.

The media failed to do the job.

But let's all join hands, sing "God Bless America" and make it all better.

(Psstttt....when I put that OP together I was bettin' there'd be a bunch of 'Still Bush's Fault' posts....must be a lot of 'em took off today.)

 

[PoliticalChic]

Rep. Peter King Calls on FBI to put him under Close Surveillance and Profile Redheads | Informed Comment

“Back in the 1980s, I admitted to being a supporter of the Irish Republican Army. By that time, it had assassinated Lord Mountbatten, killed Airey Neve by car bomb outside Westminster, killed 18 British soldiers at the Warrenpoint ambush, bombed the Wimpy Bar on Oxford Street, killing Kenneth Howorth, committed he Hyde Park and Regents Park bombings in London, killing eleven British troops; bombed Harrods Department store, killing 6 people, including one American and wounding 90 (including another American) during Christmas shopping. Just a year later, the IRA, which I supported, tried to kill British Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher, killing 5 others and injuring more. I once said, “If civilians are killed in an attack on a military installation, it is certainly regrettable, but I will not morally blame the IRA for it.”

“In 1983 I complained bitterly about suspected IRA terrorists being held for 7 days with no contact with lawyers, about them having no bail set and having to wait as much as 2 years to be tried, and about the use of informers to convict them:”

“The New York Times, November 20, 1983, Sunday, Late City Final Edition, KING PRESSES CASE ON IRISH ISSUE, BYLINE: By FRANK LYNN, SECTION: Section 11LI; Page 16, Column 5; Long Island Weekly Desk

Nassau County’s Comptroller, Peter T. King, a 39-year-old Republican, has been deeply concerned about the Northern Ireland controversy and, at the moment, is probably the most active New York politician on an issue that even most Irish or American politicians tend to steer clear of . . . Indeed, Mr. King is one of several Irish-Americans being considered for grand marshal of the St. Patrick’s Day parade next year, the post that became controversial last March with the designation of Michael Flannery, an Irish Republican Army supporter, to lead the parade. Mr. King is also a supporter of the I.R.A., but he says he sees the most immediate issue in Northern Ireland today as a question of civil rights for Northern Irish Catholics and human rights for I.R.A. prisoners and defendants and their families. Mr. King, a grandson of Irish immigrants, said that he had been interested in the Northern Ireland question for many years but that he became more active since being elected Comptroller. ”I felt,” he said, ”I’d be in a position to do something as a public official; it carries more weight.” Mr. King said he has been told that Nassau Republican polls indicated that his popularity has been somewhat diminished by his outspoken position.. .

Popular or not, he recently returned from still another visit to strife-torn Northern Ireland – this time to monitor two trials at which I.R.A. informers were acting as witnesses against their former colleagues. Mr. King, a lawyer, has written a report of what he contends are unjust trials that ”would never be tolerated in the United States or England.”

The Comptroller said that defendants were being convicted on the uncorroborated testimony of informers;

that there were no jury trials for accused I.R.A. members;

that defendants, even in noncapital cases, were denied bail and waited trial for as long as two years;

that I.R.A. suspects could be held and questioned for up to seven days without being able to contact lawyers or family;

that trial spectators were not allowed to take notes and were required to give their names and addresses, a practice that Mr. King said was ”inherently intimidating,”

and that defendants could not request changes of venue or changes of judges on the ground of prejudice.

Mr. King said that beyond the trials, relatives visiting I.R.A. prisoners had to wait outside the prison for up to an hour where, he said, ”they are subjected to public ridicule.”

Every time you post, I'm about to say 'He can't be that dumb....'


But...you can, and you are.


Don't you understand that King was making the case that mosques and Muslims should be watched more closely by the FBI?

 

[Oddball]

And while I'm at it, that cap worn by the Boston Police Chief has to be the fugliest piece of head adornment I've ever seen....Fashion failure.

Wear a hat like that, you get a free bowl of soup.

 

[Sallow]

It's too bad we have a White House that is rather disinterested in the terrorist threat.

That was the last administration.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PGmnz5Ow-o]Bush: Truly not concerned about bin Laden (short version) - YouTube[/ame]

Catch up.

 

[there4eyeM]

Do you want to replace the F.B.I. with something, 'Chic? Not that I'm against that, but is there a suggestion here somewhere?

By the way, enough was 'W's fault, so he doesn't need more. Just a war crimes trial.

 

[hoosier88]

The FBI is the only game in town for counterterrorism. The CIA & the rest of the spook alphabet soup are headed by military or ex-military, their budgets are controlled by the Pentagon, & all their emphasis is now on supporting the war-fighter. Ironic, because the CIA was set up as a counterbalance to the military's intel outfits, but OSS & CIA were never v. effective - see Vietnam, Korean War, PRC, nuclear secrets, Bay of Pigs, fall of the Shah of Iran, & on & on. Dept. State & their intel agency are now just a sideshow in our foreign policy bigtop, with regional military comanders-in-chief, their own intel, & military aid largess to spread around.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

The FBI is the only game in town for counterterrorism. The CIA & the rest of the spook alphabet soup are headed by military or ex-military, their budgets are controlled by the Pentagon, & all their emphasis is now on supporting the war-fighter. Ironic, because the CIA was set up as a counterbalance to the military's intel outfits, but OSS & CIA were never v. effective - see Vietnam, Korean War, PRC, nuclear secrets, Bay of Pigs, fall of the Shah of Iran, & on & on. Dept. State & their intel agency are now just a sideshow in our foreign policy bigtop, with regional military comanders-in-chief, their own intel, & military aid largess to spread around.

CIA BY LAW can not operate inside the US, they had nothing to do with this debacle.

 

[Oddball]

Do you want to replace the F.B.I. with something, 'Chic? Not that I'm against that, but is there a suggestion here somewhere?

What about DHS?

What about all the snoopery that's allowed under USAPATRIOT Act?

How much you want to bet that this massive failure is going to be used as proof that even more ability to snoop into the lives of innocent Americans is needed?