Fascism and the left wing

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  1. Saigon
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    Of all the weird claims made on this board, the one that has stunned me the most is posters claiming that Fascism is right wing.

    So far I've seen two posters suggest this, which is to my mind one very odd belief.

    So this thread is about the theories which define Fascism, and how we know that it is right wing.

    Key differences between Fascism and Communism:

    1) Class. Fascism is based on support from the middle and upper classes. Whereas communism relies on support by workers and the idea of smashing classes, Fascism intends to strengthen the class system. Hitler promised the middle and upper classes enormous wealth, and sought to deliver by channeling government contracts into private firms, thus delivering massive windfalls to share holders. Although workers suported Hitler, he did not rely on their support as much of those of the elite. Hitler also chose people like philosopher Martin Heidigger and architect Albert Speer to appeal to elite groups in society.

    2) Capital. Communism seeks to do away with money, Fascism seeks to channel it. Hitler and Franco both sought to make their supporters rich through their private businesses, destroying competition and removing laws which impeded their growth.

    3) Ethnicity. Whereas Lenin promoted Jews and even Stalin maintained the 'One Nation, Many Peoples' concept, Fascists like Antonescu and Hitler sought to destroy minority races and maintain racial putiry. Within the Soviet inner circle there were Armenians, Jews, Azeris and Georgians, in no Fascist country could this ever take place.

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    Fascism is right wing. So is theocracy, monarchy, oligarchy, aristocracy, plutocracy, corporatism and military rule.
     
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    Don't know where the graph came from, but it's bogus. Fascism/nazism are about gov't control, something the right is absolutely against. The right is for the opposite, smaller and less intrusive gov't. Any kind of totalitarianism is a far left form of gov't. The extreme right is for as little gov't as possible or no gov't at all. IOW, anarchy.
     
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    You’ll need to edit the bolded to match the rest of your post and graph.

    Yes, Fascism in on the right side of the political spectrum; to suggest fascism is ‘left wing’ is ignorant idiocy.
     
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    No, the graphic is absolutely correct.

    The desire for small govenrment is more in the middle of the right wing side, halfway between centrism and fascism.

    What we might call Objectivism is a long way from Fascism, but also a fair distance from Centrism.
     
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    That's bullshit.

    The right seeks a powerful central government which is homogeneous, rooted in tradition and religion.
     
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    Faciam is extreme right with communism being extreme left.
     
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    Correct.

    The right, as with fascism, also works to stifle dissent, is fearful of diversity, and demands conformity.
     
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    Total Beckbot(?) idiocy. Duped AGAIN...
     
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    That's bullshit.
     

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