False claims about 40 beheaded babies & 30 Harvard student groups condemning Israel may teach us how the US left, right & liberal process news

Arabs were the majority population in the area and owned 70% of the land.
While the Arabs were the majority, the OTTOMAN nobles and middle class owned almost all the land. The Arabs were mostly squatters who didn't pay rent or taxes. That's why the Ottoman were more than happy to sell the land to the Jewish immigrants.
 
While the Arabs were the majority, the OTTOMAN nobles and middle class owned almost all the land. The Arabs were mostly squatters who didn't pay rent or taxes. That's why the Ottoman were more than happy to sell the land to the Jewish immigrants.
They were the indigenous population in that area and they have inalienable rights to self determination.
 
Here's what we know right now about the false "40 babies beheaded" story:

1) There weren't 40 babies.

2) There's no evidence anyone was beheaded.

3) Claims that anyone was burned alive cannot be verified.

4) A small number of Israeli settlers and a few children MIGHT have been killed by HAMAS operatives.

5) Israel has murdered at least 1500 Palestinians in the last 5 days, at least 500 of them children.

6) When one side in a conflict - Israel in this case - is determined to continue and escalate a nearly 80 year campaign of terror, war crimes and ethnic cleansing, no lie is too great to justify their crimes against humanity.

500 Palestinian children murdered by the Israelis in the last 5 days - THIS is reality.
 
As many have heard, a bizarre false claim has been made that HAMAS militants beheaded 40 babies in their counter-attacks against ongoing Israeli ethnic cleansing and war crimes this past weekend.

Patently absurd on its face, the truth, while still tragic, is a different matter:

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In keeping with Israeli attacks on innocent Palestinian men, women and children which have left thousands upon thousands dead, it appears that as many as three dozen kibbutz inhabitants were murdered, a few as young as two.

While deeply sad, it pales in comparison to the vast multiples of this number of innocent Palestinians murdered by Israel.

But for the purpose of this thread, the most important aspect of the story from a group perception standpoint is that conservatives accepted at face value that 40 babies had been beheaded despite the absurdity of the claim, while liberals (and even more so the left) were far more (and correctly) skeptical.

Meanwhile, 30 student groups at the famously liberal/left-leaning Harvard have come out with stern condemnations of Israel's long history of behavior far worse and vastly more numerically lopsided than the terrible event noted above:

Cornel West on Harvard students blaming Israel: Largely right but lacking nuance

What these two stories have in common is that liberals, and to an even greater extent the left, appear far more inclined to ask questions which challenge pre-conceived narratives, prejudices, and supposed authorities rather than accepting alleged truths at face value.

Contrary to the conservative claim that liberals and the left are led more by feeling than fact, the reverse appears to be true.

In the case of the false baby beheading claim, conservatives allowed their pre-conceived notions of Muslim barbarism to quash the more logical path of skepticism and deeper research that liberals and the left followed.

And in the case of the endless cries of alleged "Unprovoked attacks on Israel!" by Palestinian groups, the highly educated students of Harvard looked long and hard at the ACTUAL long history of Israeli brutality, terrorism, land theft, ethnic cleansing and widespread civilian murder to conclude that Israel was in fact the longstanding aggressor, and had provided endless provocation over many decades.

Conservatives famously attack liberals and the left - often confusing the two - in an unending barrage of barbs pertaining to their alleged infantile and overly emotional response to events, but the opposite seems to often be the case.

Liberals and the left seem much more inclined to investigate, use logic and reason, and weigh numerous sources before drawing conclusions, whereas conservatives seem more inclined to trust arbitrary - and often untrustworthy - authority figures providing bad information which confirms their prior prejudices.

This is not to say that liberals and the left are immune from this behavior (see the eight year liberal witch hunt against Trump for instance), but rather that they seem less inclined to base their beliefs on feelings and pre-conceived notions than conservatives.

Is this something that is likely to change?

Is the difference the higher levels of education that liberals and the left tend to pursue?

Obviously all three groups have societal value, but this difference is quite glaring, and often disconcerting.
So Joe lied?
Does it make you feel better if they bayoneted the babies instead of chopping off their heads?

BTW - you parroting terrorism lies shoes who’s side you Leftards are on.
 
Here's what we know right now about the false "40 babies beheaded" story:

1) There weren't 40 babies.

2) There's no evidence anyone was beheaded.

3) Claims that anyone was burned alive cannot be verified.

4) A small number of Israeli settlers and a few children MIGHT have been killed by HAMAS operatives.

5) Israel has murdered at least 1500 Palestinians in the last 5 days, at least 500 of them children.

6) When one side in a conflict - Israel in this case - is determined to continue and escalate a nearly 80 year campaign of terror, war crimes and ethnic cleansing, no lie is too great to justify their crimes against humanity.

500 Palestinian children murdered by the Israelis in the last 5 days - THIS is reality.
Well well, the terrorist OP has crawled out from under her foul rock. Too bad for you that your fucking terrorist buddies were so proud of their murderous ways that they live streamed a bunch of it for the world to see, so no one is believing your lies. What a miserable fucking cancer on humanity are you and your ilk. Don't even cry for Palestinian children while your disgusting friends are telling them to go stand under bombs. You terrorists only care about innocent lives if you can use them to feed your power. Fuck off.
 
How many dead Syrian, Iraqi, Afghanistan, Libya babies did it take for the U.S. to be satisfied?

It's absolutely valid to condemn war. Not so much to condemn the very thing you do.

...are you seriously too stupid to tell the difference between what US does and Hammas going on a murder spree, trying to kill and mutilate as many Israeli civilians as they can?
 
Here's what we know right now about the false "40 babies beheaded" story:

1) There weren't 40 babies.

2) There's no evidence anyone was beheaded.

3) Claims that anyone was burned alive cannot be verified.

4) A small number of Israeli settlers and a few children MIGHT have been killed by HAMAS operatives.

5) Israel has murdered at least 1500 Palestinians in the last 5 days, at least 500 of them children.

6) When one side in a conflict - Israel in this case - is determined to continue and escalate a nearly 80 year campaign of terror, war crimes and ethnic cleansing, no lie is too great to justify their crimes against humanity.

500 Palestinian children murdered by the Israelis in the last 5 days - THIS is reality.

So Israel broke into Gaza and is trying to kill civilians?

Thats your story now?

I'll let you in on a little secret - NOBODY IN THEIR RIGHT MIND IS BUYING THAT BULLSHIT.

There is no moral equivalency between Hamas murder spree and Israel's undertaking eradicating Hamas in response.

Palestinian people will never know peace if they can't find a way to reject bloodthirsty terrorists in their midst.
 
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...are you seriously too stupid to tell the difference between what US does and Hammas going on a murder spree, trying to kill and mutilate as many Israeli civilians as they can?

Dead is dead. What is the proper number to be able to condemn it?
 
Dead is dead. What is the proper number to be able to condemn it?

Thats a ridiculous equivalncy.

Targetting civilians and trying to inflict as much terror as possible is not on equal moral footing with conducting conventional warfare against a state or organization.
 
People who claim that it actually happened Should go watch the israeli officials reacting to it when questioned by journalists. Officials within the israeli government said that their government "couldn't confirm" the story that they themselves spread. That is code for it didn't really happen and we lied.
 
As many have heard, a bizarre false claim has been made that HAMAS militants beheaded 40 babies in their counter-attacks against ongoing Israeli ethnic cleansing and war crimes this past weekend.

Patently absurd on its face, the truth, while still tragic, is a different matter:

MSN

In keeping with Israeli attacks on innocent Palestinian men, women and children which have left thousands upon thousands dead, it appears that as many as three dozen kibbutz inhabitants were murdered, a few as young as two.

While deeply sad, it pales in comparison to the vast multiples of this number of innocent Palestinians murdered by Israel.

But for the purpose of this thread, the most important aspect of the story from a group perception standpoint is that conservatives accepted at face value that 40 babies had been beheaded despite the absurdity of the claim, while liberals (and even more so the left) were far more (and correctly) skeptical.

Meanwhile, 30 student groups at the famously liberal/left-leaning Harvard have come out with stern condemnations of Israel's long history of behavior far worse and vastly more numerically lopsided than the terrible event noted above:

Cornel West on Harvard students blaming Israel: Largely right but lacking nuance

What these two stories have in common is that liberals, and to an even greater extent the left, appear far more inclined to ask questions which challenge pre-conceived narratives, prejudices, and supposed authorities rather than accepting alleged truths at face value.

Contrary to the conservative claim that liberals and the left are led more by feeling than fact, the reverse appears to be true.

In the case of the false baby beheading claim, conservatives allowed their pre-conceived notions of Muslim barbarism to quash the more logical path of skepticism and deeper research that liberals and the left followed.

And in the case of the endless cries of alleged "Unprovoked attacks on Israel!" by Palestinian groups, the highly educated students of Harvard looked long and hard at the ACTUAL long history of Israeli brutality, terrorism, land theft, ethnic cleansing and widespread civilian murder to conclude that Israel was in fact the longstanding aggressor, and had provided endless provocation over many decades.

Conservatives famously attack liberals and the left - often confusing the two - in an unending barrage of barbs pertaining to their alleged infantile and overly emotional response to events, but the opposite seems to often be the case.

Liberals and the left seem much more inclined to investigate, use logic and reason, and weigh numerous sources before drawing conclusions, whereas conservatives seem more inclined to trust arbitrary - and often untrustworthy - authority figures providing bad information which confirms their prior prejudices.

This is not to say that liberals and the left are immune from this behavior (see the eight year liberal witch hunt against Trump for instance), but rather that they seem less inclined to base their beliefs on feelings and pre-conceived notions than conservatives.

Is this something that is likely to change?

Is the difference the higher levels of education that liberals and the left tend to pursue?

Obviously all three groups have societal value, but this difference is quite glaring, and often disconcerting.
Reaching out to the mass psychotics huh?
 
Thats a ridiculous equivalncy.

Targetting civilians and trying to inflict as much terror as possible is not on equal moral footing with conducting conventional warfare against a state or organization.

Innocent dead civilians is dead innocent dead civilians. Targeting people who never did a thing to us is targeting innocent people.
 
Innocent dead civilians is dead innocent dead civilians. Targeting people who never did a thing to us is targeting innocent people.

it’s like talking to a wall.

Israel is rightfully targeting Hammas, who has just murdered 1000+ civilians for no other reason then them being Israeli.

Take your “never did a thing to us” and shove it up your you know what.
 
I get it. You are fine with bombing innocent people as long as we are doing it.

I imagine you supported the torture programs also.
I’m fine with Israel going after and eradicating a terrorist organization that has just slaughtered over 1000 unarmed Israeli civilians in their homes.

America would rightfully do the same, and in fact has.
 
I’m fine with Israel going after and eradicating a terrorist organization that has just slaughtered over 1000 unarmed Israeli civilians in their homes.

America would rightfully do the same, and in fact has.

We've done what Hamas did also.
 
Here's what we know right now about the false "40 babies beheaded" story:

1) There weren't 40 babies.

2) There's no evidence anyone was beheaded.

3) Claims that anyone was burned alive cannot be verified.

4) A small number of Israeli settlers and a few children MIGHT have been killed by HAMAS operatives.

5) Israel has murdered at least 1500 Palestinians in the last 5 days, at least 500 of them children.

6) When one side in a conflict - Israel in this case - is determined to continue and escalate a nearly 80 year campaign of terror, war crimes and ethnic cleansing, no lie is too great to justify their crimes against humanity.

500 Palestinian children murdered by the Israelis in the last 5 days - THIS is reality.
Hey, why not throw in a little Holocaust denial while were at it.....Jesus, you are sub human....
 

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