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They both have advantages and disadvantages, air combat isn't a video game like you think it is where you look up some specs on top speed or climb rate and pronounce one aircraft as far superior.Equal...omg.....F-16 would be all over an 18. Thank god we never had to use it in a real war.
The F-15Es that have upgraded AESA radars can go toe-to-toe with any F-15 in the world.And now we fly the worst F-15s in the world and our AF atrophies. Navy could have had a long range penetrating stealth drone but that was headed off at the pass by the JSF morons because it endangered their pot of gold.
Actually they kind of do, at least when trying to use it to make the argument you're making. Fighter top speed and altitude peaked in the 1970s for a reason, and the overwhelming majority of kills in modern air combat are at transonic speeds and medium altitude.Exactly. Spec sheets don't lie.
What on earth are you talking about, F-18s can carry drop tanks and F-18s can be refueled, including by other F-18s.You never carry full complement of Hornets anyway and your carriers dont have the reach THEY SHOULD BECAUSE of short legged Hornet
What on earth are you talking about, F-18s can carry drop tanks and F-18s can be refueled, including by other F-18s.You never carry full complement of Hornets anyway and your carriers dont have the reach THEY SHOULD BECAUSE of short legged Hornet
One of the other posters posted this video. If you look closely at the F-18, his racks are for missiles or bombs. He has a whole host of drop tank rails. What you are seeing is a F-18 set up for Tanker Duty during an Exercise. In real life, he would have wall to wall drop tanks and would be meeting that tanker outside of the contested area. He would reenter the fringe of the contested area, refuel F-18s until his gas was all but gone, exit the area, meet up with a tanker,repeat as necessary. If you used a full sized tanker for that mission, the Tanker would last but a matter of minutes.
stay on topic idiot, hint its not f-35The F-15Es that have upgraded AESA radars can go toe-to-toe with any F-15 in the world.And now we fly the worst F-15s in the world and our AF atrophies. Navy could have had a long range penetrating stealth drone but that was headed off at the pass by the JSF morons because it endangered their pot of gold.
I understand you're stubbornly sticking to your bizarrely emotional arguments against F-35 but bottom line it has continued to dominate other aircraft in Red Flag exercises by massive margins, only an utter fool such as yourself would discount it and declare the service receiving massive numbers of F-35s as atrophy.
Pilots being equal f-18 loses more than it wins.They both have advantages and disadvantages, air combat isn't a video game like you think it is where you look up some specs on top speed or climb rate and pronounce one aircraft as far superior.Equal...omg.....F-16 would be all over an 18. Thank god we never had to use it in a real war.
F-18 has lower RCS, and better low speed handling especially AoA than F-16. Which aircraft defeats the other head-to-head depends on a lot of variables including pilot ability, situational awareness going into the fight, and even a bit of luck.
What on earth are you talking about, F-18s can carry drop tanks and F-18s can be refueled, including by other F-18s.You never carry full complement of Hornets anyway and your carriers dont have the reach THEY SHOULD BECAUSE of short legged Hornet
One of the other posters posted this video. If you look closely at the F-18, his racks are for missiles or bombs. He has a whole host of drop tank rails. What you are seeing is a F-18 set up for Tanker Duty during an Exercise. In real life, he would have wall to wall drop tanks and would be meeting that tanker outside of the contested area. He would reenter the fringe of the contested area, refuel F-18s until his gas was all but gone, exit the area, meet up with a tanker,repeat as necessary. If you used a full sized tanker for that mission, the Tanker would last but a matter of minutes.
yeah that's called waste of a fighter cause short legs. Something Navy acknowledges is a prob against China
F-14 could do both. Supercat even better.I have to say the basic lack of understanding by everyone in this thread is the difference in a fighter and an interceptor. None of you seem to grasp those very different roles.
F-14 could do both. Supercat even better.I have to say the basic lack of understanding by everyone in this thread is the difference in a fighter and an interceptor. None of you seem to grasp those very different roles.
F-14 could do both. Supercat even better.I have to say the basic lack of understanding by everyone in this thread is the difference in a fighter and an interceptor. None of you seem to grasp those very different roles.
Pilots being equal f-18 loses more than it wins.They both have advantages and disadvantages, air combat isn't a video game like you think it is where you look up some specs on top speed or climb rate and pronounce one aircraft as far superior.Equal...omg.....F-16 would be all over an 18. Thank god we never had to use it in a real war.
F-18 has lower RCS, and better low speed handling especially AoA than F-16. Which aircraft defeats the other head-to-head depends on a lot of variables including pilot ability, situational awareness going into the fight, and even a bit of luck.
No, that's called flexibility. F-18s are actually far more efficient in numbers because they can self-escort, instead of having different squadrons of attack fighters and interceptors.yeah that's called waste of a fighter cause short legs. Something Navy acknowledges is a prob against China
Perfect example of your video game thinking. F-18 has lower RCS, superior low speed handling. The former is advantage BVR, latter advantage WVR.Pilots being equal f-18 loses more than it wins.
That's pretty funny, your comment was "our AF atrophies".stay on topic idiot, hint its not f-35
F-14 could do both. Supercat even better.I have to say the basic lack of understanding by everyone in this thread is the difference in a fighter and an interceptor. None of you seem to grasp those very different roles.
And you could only have half as many onboard due to space. And half as many due to support and logistics. And half as many due to economics. Let's face it, the F-14 got wore out and was due to be replaced. Life is hard on a carrier and the F-14D made it for 30 years and the A made it for 40. The new D was just too expensive and was in competition with new 5th gen fighters for the Navy. It's like my old trainer who came up to me right after my last win as a Boxer and said, "It's time". Every Boxer/Fighter understands that. "It's Time". And in the middle 2000s, some trainer went to the F-14 after it's last hurrah and said, "It's time".
Pilots being equal f-18 loses more than it wins.They both have advantages and disadvantages, air combat isn't a video game like you think it is where you look up some specs on top speed or climb rate and pronounce one aircraft as far superior.Equal...omg.....F-16 would be all over an 18. Thank god we never had to use it in a real war.
F-18 has lower RCS, and better low speed handling especially AoA than F-16. Which aircraft defeats the other head-to-head depends on a lot of variables including pilot ability, situational awareness going into the fight, and even a bit of luck.
Now, put the fight over water. The F-18 always tries to drag the fight over water where HE has the advantage. The F-14 had to do the same thing. What a seasoned pilot does is to get you to play his game. That's how he got to be a seasoned in the first place.
And the F-18 wins enough against first class fighters. Just like the F-14 lost to our F-15s from time to time in exercises as well. The only thing that proved was that was the F-15 had a different radar and could locate the F-14 from a higher incident rate while the F-14 had a narrow band and could see further. The F-14 was designed to tangle with Bear Bombers and didn't need to locate fighters that were spaced out. The F-18 radar isn't the narrow cone that the F-14 is. The F-18 is designed to see those spread out fighters. In today's world, the F-18 is the superior fighter over the F-18. Just remember, that's a lot of tonnage that the F-14 is having to sling around from side to side.
Perfect example of your video game thinking. F-18 has lower RCS, superior low speed handling. The former is advantage BVR, latter advantage WVR.Pilots being equal f-18 loses more than it wins.
That's pretty funny, your comment was "our AF atrophies".stay on topic idiot, hint its not f-35
When it's pointed out AF is in process of rapidly acquiring hundreds of 5th generation fighters, that's suddenly off topic. I guess if your logic fails you can just cover your ears, shut your eyes, and change "nah nah nah" like a nine year old.
