Extreme weather events that show AGW

[Sunsettommy]

Dang....the climate crusader getting their clocks cleaned again.... I love this stuff

It gets even worse for the average warmist science illiterate when the CO2 warm forcing effect was already set in place 500 million years ago, with very high CO2 estimated 7,000 ppm levels, yet we have huge temperature swings up and down since then as CO2 levels dropped and dropped to just 180 ppm by the ending of the last Glaciation period.

CO2 doesn't drive climate changes.

 

[Sunsettommy]

The Trump administration , active in public downgrades of climate change, is actually increasing funds for the aftermath of it

In essence, advocating anthropogenics , because it's costing us bizillions

So the very same deniers continuing their public 'nail-in-head' narrative , are paying for the cleanups to come, vs. the corporate entities who are the real culprits

And you thought fake news was all CNN......~S~

The article is misleading since the money earmarked has nothing to do with bad weather events which are NOT increasing along the coastlines.

Don't continue with your bogus argument over it.

another 'fake news' advocate then.....

~S~

Didn't say fake, just misleading since Trump administration isn't saying that proposed money is in response to climate change at all.

 

[sparky]

the truth is the Trump administration has systematically removed, altered or played down references to climate change on federal websites, while having us PAY for it

~S~

 

[Sunsettommy]

the truth is the Trump administration has systematically removed, altered or played down references to climate change on federal websites, while having us PAY for it

~S~

They did it in part because the science was being politicized and used for means of promoting increased governmental control over us, which history shows is a bad idea.

The wasted effort runs into the billions on energy policies is one example.

 

[Sunsettommy]

the truth is the Trump administration has systematically removed, altered or played down references to climate change on federal websites, while having us PAY for it

~S~

Actually they are trying to reduce waste of future flooding costs by mitigating ahead of time as shown from your link.

"As part of the $44 billion emergency budget request for the recovery from Hurricanes Irma, Harvey and Maria, which was sent to Congress Nov. 17, the White House said it wants to direct $12 billion to a competition to help cities and towns become resilient to flooding. Among the policies the White House said it’s considering are “large-scale buyouts in areas of high flood risk.”

Other activities could include “structure hardening, forward-looking land-use plans, adoption of disaster resistant building codes,” the White House Office of Management and Budget said in a summary of their emergency funding request."

 

[sparky]

uh huh, and Houston's new building codes have changed , and PR is still out of power, the west is either burning or drowning in mud, the insurance cabal is having conniptions....etc etc ad naseum

~S~

 

[Sunsettommy]

uh huh, and Houston's new building codes have changed , and PR is still out of power, the west is either burning or drowning in mud, the insurance cabal is having conniptions....etc etc ad naseum

~S~

It is clear you are going to ignore that Houston was founded in a bad area (Marshy ) with a non existed building/zoning codes which has INCREASED their flooding problems.

Houston's History of Floods

August 30, 2017 by Daphne Thompson
Excerpt:

"Founded in 1836 where the Buffalo Bayou met White Oak Bayou, Houston has faced many floods. Not long after being established, the settlement flooded. Initially swamp land, people began to try and drain the area. Done with no planning, draining the land did not account for flooding rains. Flooding rains would come again and again over the next 180+ years."

LINK

 

[Sunsettommy]

Many large cities were prone to flooding from day one, such a New Orleans, Miami, New York and more, because they were started in the wrong place.

New Orleans is BELOW Sea Level!

Miami just a few feet above sea level in a Hurricane zone!

 

[sparky]

Past history is easy to find Sunnyone, and yes it has a bearing on future climatic events and/or reparations

and we DO have climate that is more 'eventful' than we've had in a while

Fact is, the $$$ can't keep up

FEMA: Puerto Rico running out of time as storm season nears



~S~

 

[eagle1462010]

Past history is easy to find Sunnyone, and yes it has a bearing on future climatic events and/or reparations

and we DO have climate that is more 'eventful' than we've had in a while

Fact is, the $$$ can't keep up

FEMA: Puerto Rico running out of time as storm season nears



~S~

Why the hell didn't they go with underground utilities there given their greater possibility of Hurricanes.............

Underground is relatively easy with the new horizontal rigs we have today............You can put in underground very quickly.

Then the main lines couldn't be destroyed in a Hurricane.............

 

[Sunsettommy]

Past history is easy to find Sunnyone, and yes it has a bearing on future climatic events and/or reparations

and we DO have climate that is more 'eventful' than we've had in a while

Fact is, the $$$ can't keep up

FEMA: Puerto Rico running out of time as storm season nears



~S~

Gosh you keep ignoring past history, since the Islands is in a common path of Tropical and Hurricane storms.

Here is a rather long listing of large storms impacting the Puerto Rico area, from Wikipedia:

Category: Hurricanes in Puerto Rico

LINK

 

[Old Rocks]

Now dumb fucks, these are real scientists, not the obese junkies on the AM radio that you worship.

Education and degrees do not confer the assumption of correctness.

When all the educated, degreed people agree on a conclusion it does.

So Newton was right back then, everyone agreed with him, and so Relativity is wrong?

You make the false assumption that our current level of understanding of things is the correct one.

You also forget that large masses of people are just as capable of making the same mistake as a single person is.

Finally, when actual debate on the topic is stifled you can silence contrary opinions (even slightly diverging ones) via peer pressure.

LOL What a dumb ass you are. If you want to know what the amount of horsepower is required to propel a 2 ton car through the quarter mile in under 10 seconds, do you take into account the mass gain from the gain in speed? You do not, it is miniscule, you use Newton's equations. In most mechanical equations, Newton's equations are completely adequate.

 

[Old Rocks]

Now dumb fucks, these are real scientists, not the obese junkies on the AM radio that you worship.

Education and degrees do not confer the assumption of correctness.

When all the educated, degreed people agree on a conclusion it does.

So Newton was right back then, everyone agreed with him, and so Relativity is wrong?

You make the false assumption that our current level of understanding of things is the correct one.

You also forget that large masses of people are just as capable of making the same mistake as a single person is.

Finally, when actual debate on the topic is stifled you can silence contrary opinions (even slightly diverging ones) via peer pressure.

Newton was not wrong, Newton was incomplete. He was absolutely correct as far as his model went.

But there was consensus, so by your statement above Einstein should have been ignored because he added to or changed Newton's findings.

Silly ass, there was no consensus on how gravity worked. Nor on what happened to mass and time at near light speeds.

 

[sparky]

Past history is easy to find Sunnyone, and yes it has a bearing on future climatic events and/or reparations

and we DO have climate that is more 'eventful' than we've had in a while

Fact is, the $$$ can't keep up

FEMA: Puerto Rico running out of time as storm season nears



~S~

Why the hell didn't they go with underground utilities there given their greater possibility of Hurricanes.............

Underground is relatively easy with the new horizontal rigs we have today............You can put in underground very quickly.

Then the main lines couldn't be destroyed in a Hurricane.............

Yup those directional boring machines are the cat's pajamas.....and the poco up in the N.E. keeps bitchin' about linesmen going south on them, between FLA & PR there's more OT than dones has pills.

~S~

 

[sparky]

Past history is easy to find Sunnyone, and yes it has a bearing on future climatic events and/or reparations

and we DO have climate that is more 'eventful' than we've had in a while

Fact is, the $$$ can't keep up

FEMA: Puerto Rico running out of time as storm season nears



~S~

Gosh you keep ignoring past history, since the Islands is in a common path of Tropical and Hurricane storms.

Here is a rather long listing of large storms impacting the Puerto Rico area, from Wikipedia:

Category: Hurricanes in Puerto Rico

LINK

Yes there's a 'past climate history' ,as well as a 'recent climate history' which is breaking all known records

None of it is being ignored

thx

~S~

 

[sparky]

Now dumb fucks, these are real scientists, not the obese junkies on the AM radio that you worship.

Education and degrees do not confer the assumption of correctness.

When all the educated, degreed people agree on a conclusion it does.

So Newton was right back then, everyone agreed with him, and so Relativity is wrong?

You make the false assumption that our current level of understanding of things is the correct one.

You also forget that large masses of people are just as capable of making the same mistake as a single person is.

Finally, when actual debate on the topic is stifled you can silence contrary opinions (even slightly diverging ones) via peer pressure.

LOL What a dumb ass you are. If you want to know what the amount of horsepower is required to propel a 2 ton car through the quarter mile in under 10 seconds, do you take into account the mass gain from the gain in speed? You do not, it is miniscule, you use Newton's equations. In most mechanical equations, Newton's equations are completely adequate.

How's a '64 Chevy doing high 12's low 13's?

Best i could do back in the day

~S~

 

[Old Rocks]

Let Musk take over supplying the power in Puerto Rico.

 

[skookerasbil]

He chooses not to see reason. He is ideologically committed to be against real science, like so many of the 'Conservatives'.

Nah....we just think it's ghey to blindly trust 75 guys when there are thousands that say AGW is a bunch of hooey..... and thinking the sun has no effect on the climate.... we just can't take you idiots seriously. The public certainly doesn't take you people seriously.

And at the end of the day that's really the only thing that matters.....yep...... after 20 years you bozos still have yet to make the case.

 

[Billy_Bob]

Let Musk take over supplying the power in Puerto Rico.

Great idea!

Oh Wait... Bad Idea... this is what happened to that infrastructure...

this was a solar panel farm..

this was a wind mill farm

 

[PredFan]

Really? Then why are they not at the AGU conference? Or at the AMS conference? And these people make explicit reference to the historical record. You sit there, covered in the slime of the worst of scientific ignorance, and spout how you know so much more than these scientists.

Because opposing voices, and opposing research isn't tolerated. That is the hallmark of that scam, and why it isn't true science.

Every major scientific institution in the world agrees that the globe is warming and that Man is the cause. There is no real dissenting research, only a few paid industry shills.

Bull shit. The shills are the global warming scam artists. Learn about real science, learn about history, and you won’t be such a gullible fool.