Exploring Muslim Culture

[PoliticalChic]

Og, is there something you want to say about female circumcision in islam?----
or know? there is lots and lots of stuff on that subject in the medical literature---
actually reported from Islamic cesspits by Islamic doctors. Most of it comes out
of Egypt-----but there is some even out of Saudi arabia

Sure. Female circumcision is not a part of islam

Kinda like saying that the holiday CHANUKAH is not part of Judaism. In fact----
circumcision exists as a practice by muslims ----more or less----in every land invaded by muslims. Chanukah is not mentioned in the "tanach" <<< that's the jewish bible-------but female circumcision is mentioned in the "koran/hadiths" Why do you lie? Female circumcision is ALSO practiced by non muslims in parts
of Africa-------but the overwhelming majority of female circumcisions are done by
muslims who do believe that they are doing it for their "DEEN"
Are you a muslim?

I'd like to see your source

for the issue of female circumcision------any large medical school library----the kind
associated with a university-----OF LONG STANDING. Those are the ones that
contain just about any medical journal of value printed in the universe. Are you a
muslim?

I understand that the practice exists. However, it is neither unique to islam, required by uslam, or originating from islam.

How then do you make the claim that it is caused by islam?

Sura, from the Q'ran:

52:24Andthey shall have boys [غِلْمَانٌ] who will walk around among them, as if they were hidden pearls.

56:22-23Anddark-eyed ones [حُوْرٌ عِيْنٌ], the like of hidden pearls

76:19Andboys never altering in age [وِلْدَانٌ مُتَخَلَّدُوْنَ] will circulate among them, when you see them you will count them as scattered pearls.

2:25 And they shall have immaculate partners [اَزْوَاجٌ مُّطَهَّرَةٌ] in [the gardens] ...

4:57 And they shall have immaculate partners [اَزْوَاجٌ مُّطَهَّرَةٌ] inthem ...



In your face, boyyyeeeeeee!

 

[ogibillm]

Sure. Female circumcision is not a part of islam

Kinda like saying that the holiday CHANUKAH is not part of Judaism. In fact----
circumcision exists as a practice by muslims ----more or less----in every land invaded by muslims. Chanukah is not mentioned in the "tanach" <<< that's the jewish bible-------but female circumcision is mentioned in the "koran/hadiths" Why do you lie? Female circumcision is ALSO practiced by non muslims in parts
of Africa-------but the overwhelming majority of female circumcisions are done by
muslims who do believe that they are doing it for their "DEEN"
Are you a muslim?

I'd like to see your source

for the issue of female circumcision------any large medical school library----the kind
associated with a university-----OF LONG STANDING. Those are the ones that
contain just about any medical journal of value printed in the universe. Are you a
muslim?

I understand that the practice exists. However, it is neither unique to islam, required by uslam, or originating from islam.

How then do you make the claim that it is caused by islam?

Sura, from the Q'ran:

52:24Andthey shall have boys [غِلْمَانٌ] who will walk around among them, as if they were hidden pearls.

56:22-23Anddark-eyed ones [حُوْرٌ عِيْنٌ], the like of hidden pearls

76:19Andboys never altering in age [وِلْدَانٌ مُتَخَلَّدُوْنَ] will circulate among them, when you see them you will count them as scattered pearls.

2:25 And they shall have immaculate partners [اَزْوَاجٌ مُّطَهَّرَةٌ] in [the gardens] ...

4:57 And they shall have immaculate partners [اَزْوَاجٌ مُّطَهَّرَةٌ] inthem ...



In your face, boyyyeeeeeee!

First, that isn't about female genital mutilation.

Second, you're trying to pass off non-sequential passages as sequential in a blatantly dishonest attempt at making your point.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Ooooo.....look who's trying to save face!!!

Why? You can't save what you never had.


So....we have found that you incorrectly used the term fiction with respect to the FACTS found in the quotes.

Sure you wouldn't like to try again???


Check posts #34, 56, 71 and 72.

They are from a novel.......and every fact about Muslim culture/religion is correct.


As is this: you were caught like a rat in a trap......with my apologies to rats.

seriously? you're going to double down and claim that fictional dialog in a novel is a legitimate source?

often one of the best sources------one has to have the ability to discern

No. Historical fiction is never a legitimate source.

Then....by all means: prove it to be less than legitimate:

Show any errors in the four posts that use Jennings' as a reference.

Here they are: #34, 56, 71 and 72.


Either that or admit you're a dunce.

Here's the error - those conversations never happened

You moron. You'd probably climb a glass wall to what was on the other side.

So, if a passage refers to the moon.....the moon doesn't exist?

 

[PoliticalChic]

Kinda like saying that the holiday CHANUKAH is not part of Judaism. In fact----
circumcision exists as a practice by muslims ----more or less----in every land invaded by muslims. Chanukah is not mentioned in the "tanach" <<< that's the jewish bible-------but female circumcision is mentioned in the "koran/hadiths" Why do you lie? Female circumcision is ALSO practiced by non muslims in parts
of Africa-------but the overwhelming majority of female circumcisions are done by
muslims who do believe that they are doing it for their "DEEN"
Are you a muslim?

I'd like to see your source

for the issue of female circumcision------any large medical school library----the kind
associated with a university-----OF LONG STANDING. Those are the ones that
contain just about any medical journal of value printed in the universe. Are you a
muslim?

I understand that the practice exists. However, it is neither unique to islam, required by uslam, or originating from islam.

How then do you make the claim that it is caused by islam?

Sura, from the Q'ran:

52:24Andthey shall have boys [غِلْمَانٌ] who will walk around among them, as if they were hidden pearls.

56:22-23Anddark-eyed ones [حُوْرٌ عِيْنٌ], the like of hidden pearls

76:19Andboys never altering in age [وِلْدَانٌ مُتَخَلَّدُوْنَ] will circulate among them, when you see them you will count them as scattered pearls.

2:25 And they shall have immaculate partners [اَزْوَاجٌ مُّطَهَّرَةٌ] in [the gardens] ...

4:57 And they shall have immaculate partners [اَزْوَاجٌ مُّطَهَّرَةٌ] inthem ...



In your face, boyyyeeeeeee!

First, that isn't about female genital mutilation.

Second, you're trying to pass off non-sequential passages as sequential in a blatantly dishonest attempt at making your point.

So now you're accepting pederasty as authorized by the Q'ran.....but don't believe that oppression of women....as per Sura 4.....doesn't cause said mutilation,

Get your story straight.

 

[PoliticalChic]

11. Review the destructive, even depraved, elements of Muslim culture,...
a) love of death vs the sanctity of life

b) pederasty, sexual use of young boys

c) treatment of women, genital mutilation ("According to Islam and its philosophy, women are a manifestation of evil as Adam was kicked out of Eden because of Eve's evil soul. Women are dangers based on their sexuality and they must be controlled. It is the women who must dress properly (covering themselves with the veil, the hijab), to avoid titillating a man's sexual lust and the madness which leads to promiscuity of intercourse.") Woman as Seen in Islam.



.... and consider Alexis de Tocqueville's explanation as to why Islam is antithetical to a western democracy.

Although Christianity in its many varieties was the religion of the original colonies, Christianity does not preach operational dominance over the body politic in America. Tocqueville compared this aspect to Islam:

“Mohammed professed to derive from Heaven, and has inserted in the Koran, not only religious doctrines, but political maxims, civil and criminal laws, and theories of science. The Gospel, on the contrary, speaks only of the general relations of men to God and to each other, beyond which it inculcates and imposes no point of faith. This alone, besides a thousand other reasons, would suffice to prove that the former of these religions [Islam] will never long predominate in a cultivated and democratic age, while the latter is destined to retain its sway at these as at all other periods.”
Tocqueville, “Democracy in America,” vol.2, p. 23.





a. And the danger to America is an administration that would pretend that Islam has, in fact, been a part of America's history...
"Obama bent over backwards to make nice with Islam. Not only were terrorists not Muslim, President Obama stated, but Islam played a crucial role in America’s founding.
“Here in America,” Obama stated, “Islam has been woven into the fabric of our country since its founding.”
Obama: Islam 'Woven into the Fabric of Our Country Since Founding' - Breitbart



b. "Islam has been woven into the fabric of our country since its founding.” ...one more lie by the Liar-in-Chief
Rather, an existential threat to America.

"The Koran calls for jihad against infidels who are unwilling to convert to Islam. It condemns to death Muslims who do not participate in jihad. Neutral Muslims are in danger of being radicalized. A recent Pew survey finds that a fourth of young Muslims approve of suicide bombing, and over half believes 9/ll was not committed by Muslims. We hear of rare outspoken critics likeAyaan Hirsi Ali and Oriana Fallaci, willing to risk their lives in open opposition to the Islamists. ....three Fort Dix illegals planning to blow up a fuel pipeline destroying JFK Airport are Muslims. "
IMMIGRANTS WHO DON’T ASSIMILATE

 

[irosie91]

Og, is there something you want to say about female circumcision in islam?----
or know? there is lots and lots of stuff on that subject in the medical literature---
actually reported from Islamic cesspits by Islamic doctors. Most of it comes out
of Egypt-----but there is some even out of Saudi arabia

Sure. Female circumcision is not a part of islam

Kinda like saying that the holiday CHANUKAH is not part of Judaism. In fact----
circumcision exists as a practice by muslims ----more or less----in every land invaded by muslims. Chanukah is not mentioned in the "tanach" <<< that's the jewish bible-------but female circumcision is mentioned in the "koran/hadiths" Why do you lie? Female circumcision is ALSO practiced by non muslims in parts
of Africa-------but the overwhelming majority of female circumcisions are done by
muslims who do believe that they are doing it for their "DEEN"
Are you a muslim?

I'd like to see your source

for the issue of female circumcision------any large medical school library----the kind
associated with a university-----OF LONG STANDING. Those are the ones that
contain just about any medical journal of value printed in the universe. Are you a
muslim?

I understand that the practice exists. However, it is neither unique to islam, required by uslam, or originating from islam.

How then do you make the claim that it is caused by islam?

I consider the BAGEL to be part of jewish cuisine as does the rest of the
world---------It was not invented by jews and is not unique to jews----but everywhere
there are jews TODAY-----it exists and is often part of the circumcision party breakfast for jews---some who never saw a bagel till they got to either the USA
or Israel. The VASTLY overwhelming majority of female circumcisions done
today are done BY AND FOR ISLAM--------in the MILLIONS ----very few non
muslims do it------thus ------the bagel is associated with jews and FMG with islam. Neither muhummad nor Abraham invented male circumcision. You engage in
idiotic sophistry. Today female circumcision is ISLAMIC------an Islamic custom
that many muslims consider -------allah prescribed

 

[irosie91]

I'd like to see your source

for the issue of female circumcision------any large medical school library----the kind
associated with a university-----OF LONG STANDING. Those are the ones that
contain just about any medical journal of value printed in the universe. Are you a
muslim?

I understand that the practice exists. However, it is neither unique to islam, required by uslam, or originating from islam.

How then do you make the claim that it is caused by islam?

Sura, from the Q'ran:

52:24Andthey shall have boys [غِلْمَانٌ] who will walk around among them, as if they were hidden pearls.

56:22-23Anddark-eyed ones [حُوْرٌ عِيْنٌ], the like of hidden pearls

76:19Andboys never altering in age [وِلْدَانٌ مُتَخَلَّدُوْنَ] will circulate among them, when you see them you will count them as scattered pearls.

2:25 And they shall have immaculate partners [اَزْوَاجٌ مُّطَهَّرَةٌ] in [the gardens] ...

4:57 And they shall have immaculate partners [اَزْوَاجٌ مُّطَهَّرَةٌ] inthem ...



In your face, boyyyeeeeeee!

First, that isn't about female genital mutilation.

Second, you're trying to pass off non-sequential passages as sequential in a blatantly dishonest attempt at making your point.

So now you're accepting pederasty as authorized by the Q'ran.....but don't believe that oppression of women....as per Sura 4.....doesn't cause said mutilation,

Get your story straight.

female circumcision is SPECIFICALLY mentioned in the koran/hadiths-------not
so much----but it is mentioned

 

[PoliticalChic]

12. Pointing out the un-American aspects of Muslim culture would help change some minds....but Liberals make every effort to suppress those realities:

"Then there are anti-Islamists we never hear about, who openly protest. They believe the Islamists care more about ideology than their faith and see their methods as totalitarian. Telling about them is a documentary,Islam vs. Islamists, commissioned by the Public Broadcasting Corporation, which paid for it ($675) but will not permit it to be shown unless the story-line is changed to praise the Islamists. The documentary has been blacklisted, its makers believe.


[Later, it was distributed by the Portland PBS affiliate (Oregon Public Broadcasting) and aired on most PBS stations across the country.]


The British government has failed to stop the spread of Sharia law. British police refuse to enter a mosque. The government will not deport a terrorist to any country that does not measure up to British standards on human rights, so terrorists are not deported. They are confined to their homes from which they regularly escape. Islamists constitute a threat greater than Great Britain has ever known, says Phillips. We must learn from their experience. Immigrants who do not assimilate are a danger to our culture and civilization." Ibid.





13. In April 2009, Obama said: “Although, as I mentioned, we have a very large Christian population, we do not consider ourselves a Christian nation or a Jewish nation or a Muslim nation. We consider ourselves a nation of citizens who are bound by ideals and a set of values.”


In this thread, three very significant and dramatic aspects of the Muslim culture, behaviors produced by Islam, have been examined.

a) love of death vs the sanctity of life

b) pederasty, sexual use of young boys

c) treatment of women, genital mutilation


None of them belong in this nation, nor do any people who are unwilling to give them up.

 

[aris2chat]

Ooooo.....look who's trying to save face!!!

Why? You can't save what you never had.


So....we have found that you incorrectly used the term fiction with respect to the FACTS found in the quotes.

Sure you wouldn't like to try again???


Check posts #34, 56, 71 and 72.

They are from a novel.......and every fact about Muslim culture/religion is correct.


As is this: you were caught like a rat in a trap......with my apologies to rats.

seriously? you're going to double down and claim that fictional dialog in a novel is a legitimate source?

often one of the best sources------one has to have the ability to discern

No. Historical fiction is never a legitimate source.

Og, is there something you want to say about female circumcision in islam?----
or know? there is lots and lots of stuff on that subject in the medical literature---
actually reported from Islamic cesspits by Islamic doctors. Most of it comes out
of Egypt-----but there is some even out of Saudi arabia

Sure. Female circumcision is not a part of islam

cultural not religious

 

[aris2chat]

for the issue of female circumcision------any large medical school library----the kind
associated with a university-----OF LONG STANDING. Those are the ones that
contain just about any medical journal of value printed in the universe. Are you a
muslim?

I understand that the practice exists. However, it is neither unique to islam, required by uslam, or originating from islam.

How then do you make the claim that it is caused by islam?

Sura, from the Q'ran:

52:24Andthey shall have boys [غِلْمَانٌ] who will walk around among them, as if they were hidden pearls.

56:22-23Anddark-eyed ones [حُوْرٌ عِيْنٌ], the like of hidden pearls

76:19Andboys never altering in age [وِلْدَانٌ مُتَخَلَّدُوْنَ] will circulate among them, when you see them you will count them as scattered pearls.

2:25 And they shall have immaculate partners [اَزْوَاجٌ مُّطَهَّرَةٌ] in [the gardens] ...

4:57 And they shall have immaculate partners [اَزْوَاجٌ مُّطَهَّرَةٌ] inthem ...



In your face, boyyyeeeeeee!

First, that isn't about female genital mutilation.

Second, you're trying to pass off non-sequential passages as sequential in a blatantly dishonest attempt at making your point.

So now you're accepting pederasty as authorized by the Q'ran.....but don't believe that oppression of women....as per Sura 4.....doesn't cause said mutilation,

Get your story straight.

female circumcision is SPECIFICALLY mentioned in the koran/hadiths-------not
so much----but it is mentioned

A woman used to perform circumcision in Medina. The Prophet said to her: Do not cut severely as that is better for a woman and more desirable for a husband.

— Sunan Abu Dawood, 41:5251

 

[irosie91]

I understand that the practice exists. However, it is neither unique to islam, required by uslam, or originating from islam.

How then do you make the claim that it is caused by islam?

Sura, from the Q'ran:

52:24Andthey shall have boys [غِلْمَانٌ] who will walk around among them, as if they were hidden pearls.

56:22-23Anddark-eyed ones [حُوْرٌ عِيْنٌ], the like of hidden pearls

76:19Andboys never altering in age [وِلْدَانٌ مُتَخَلَّدُوْنَ] will circulate among them, when you see them you will count them as scattered pearls.

2:25 And they shall have immaculate partners [اَزْوَاجٌ مُّطَهَّرَةٌ] in [the gardens] ...

4:57 And they shall have immaculate partners [اَزْوَاجٌ مُّطَهَّرَةٌ] inthem ...



In your face, boyyyeeeeeee!

First, that isn't about female genital mutilation.

Second, you're trying to pass off non-sequential passages as sequential in a blatantly dishonest attempt at making your point.

So now you're accepting pederasty as authorized by the Q'ran.....but don't believe that oppression of women....as per Sura 4.....doesn't cause said mutilation,

Get your story straight.

female circumcision is SPECIFICALLY mentioned in the koran/hadiths-------not
so much----but it is mentioned

A woman used to perform circumcision in Medina. The Prophet said to her: Do not cut severely as that is better for a woman and more desirable for a husband.

— Sunan Abu Dawood, 41:5251

yes----thanks aris-----I do remember------nice of him -----but it did not curtail the practice------the country with the biggest percentage of REPORTED circs is Egypt---almost all muslim girls over there-------Hard for me to believe----Egyptians seem so
normal to me. Some Islamic circs involve only the prepuce (little flap coverning))
of the clitoris--------which would, sorta, leave things intact. Some are "radical" jobs
----so radical it is WEIRD-----like a whole messup of the clitoris, and labia

 

[TimothysAlaska]

1. As the axiom goes, "we can only know others by ourselves."
In other words, when we lack knowledge of, or experience with, other folks, we usually assume that they would act and think exactly the way we do.

That may very well be a terrible mistake when it come to making judgments about the culture of nations that live under Islam, compared to western nations that result from Judeo-Christian traditions.




In three very significant and dramatic ways, the culture of Islam is in no way comparable to that of Judeo-Christian traditions.....and not in a good way:


a) love of death vs the sanctity of life

b) pederasty, sexual use of young boys

c) treatment of women, genital mutilation




2. Western religious tradition is based on the sanctity of human life. Fundamental Islam, based on something very different, and, in fact, has been called a 'death cult.'

“We should by now have become used to the death cult that is thriving at the fringes of the Muslim world. This is the cult of people who are proud to declare, "You love life, but we love death." This is the cult that sent waves of defenseless children to be mowed down on the battlefields of the Iran-Iraq war, that trains kindergartners to become bombs, that fetishizes death, that sends people off joyfully to commit mass murder. Because the death cult is not really about the cause it purports to serve. It's about the sheer pleasure of killing and dying.” http://www.nytimes.com/2004/09/07/opinion/07brooks.html


a. Leading Muslim clerics often refer to the love of death. Chief Palestinian Authority cleric Mufti Sheikh Ikrimeh Sabri stated, "We tell them, in as much as you love life, the Muslim loves death and martyrdom.” http://old.nationalreview.com/comment/stalinsky200405240846.asp


b. And so, the ideals and idea of America, and the iconic message of the Declaration of Independence, ‘life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness,’ is anathema to Islamism, just as it was to fascism and communism, and every totalitarian philosophy.



3. When the Iranian revolution came to power, with the help of Democratic President Jimmy Carter, the Ayatollah Khomeini killed more human beings (about twenty thousand) in two weeks than had been killed by the Shah during his entire thirty-eight years. Khomeini followed this by sending hundreds of thousands of Iranians to die in the Iran-Iraq war, as martyrdom was needed to resurrect the Islamic Empire. Paul Berman, “Terror and Liberalism,” p. 108

a. Outlined by Dr. Hans-Peter Raddatz, Orientalist, and frequent critic of Islam, this blood-lust was the explanation of Iran’s demand for a truce, when it was learned that Iraq planned to kill the waves of Iranians with Tabun and Sarin nerve gas, which would not cause blood to flow. Glazov, “United in Hate,” p. 107-108.

b. It is the blood that informs the act. In the 1971 assassination of Jordan’s prime minister, Wasfi l-Tell, by PLO terrorists. “As he lay there, one of his killers bent over and lapped the blood that poured from his wounds.” http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/226317/know-thy-enemy/michael-ledeen



Islamism, irrigating the earth with human blood.

There are so many fallacies in your post. I can tell you never went to college because any professor would destroy your work.

Do you know any Muslims? Have you spoken to them? You are just using stereotypes to advance your premise.

I have worked with many Muslims and spoken to them and they were in the airforce with me. I have also been to nations that are the majority worshipping Islam. Sure some nations have problems and issues. But every one I have met has been courteous and polite and hard workers. You need to get out of your shell and your superiority attitude, but then you probably have never even left the town you live in. I shouldn't expect much from you.

 

[irosie91]

1. As the axiom goes, "we can only know others by ourselves."
In other words, when we lack knowledge of, or experience with, other folks, we usually assume that they would act and think exactly the way we do.

That may very well be a terrible mistake when it come to making judgments about the culture of nations that live under Islam, compared to western nations that result from Judeo-Christian traditions.




In three very significant and dramatic ways, the culture of Islam is in no way comparable to that of Judeo-Christian traditions.....and not in a good way:


a) love of death vs the sanctity of life

b) pederasty, sexual use of young boys

c) treatment of women, genital mutilation




2. Western religious tradition is based on the sanctity of human life. Fundamental Islam, based on something very different, and, in fact, has been called a 'death cult.'

“We should by now have become used to the death cult that is thriving at the fringes of the Muslim world. This is the cult of people who are proud to declare, "You love life, but we love death." This is the cult that sent waves of defenseless children to be mowed down on the battlefields of the Iran-Iraq war, that trains kindergartners to become bombs, that fetishizes death, that sends people off joyfully to commit mass murder. Because the death cult is not really about the cause it purports to serve. It's about the sheer pleasure of killing and dying.” http://www.nytimes.com/2004/09/07/opinion/07brooks.html


a. Leading Muslim clerics often refer to the love of death. Chief Palestinian Authority cleric Mufti Sheikh Ikrimeh Sabri stated, "We tell them, in as much as you love life, the Muslim loves death and martyrdom.” http://old.nationalreview.com/comment/stalinsky200405240846.asp


b. And so, the ideals and idea of America, and the iconic message of the Declaration of Independence, ‘life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness,’ is anathema to Islamism, just as it was to fascism and communism, and every totalitarian philosophy.



3. When the Iranian revolution came to power, with the help of Democratic President Jimmy Carter, the Ayatollah Khomeini killed more human beings (about twenty thousand) in two weeks than had been killed by the Shah during his entire thirty-eight years. Khomeini followed this by sending hundreds of thousands of Iranians to die in the Iran-Iraq war, as martyrdom was needed to resurrect the Islamic Empire. Paul Berman, “Terror and Liberalism,” p. 108

a. Outlined by Dr. Hans-Peter Raddatz, Orientalist, and frequent critic of Islam, this blood-lust was the explanation of Iran’s demand for a truce, when it was learned that Iraq planned to kill the waves of Iranians with Tabun and Sarin nerve gas, which would not cause blood to flow. Glazov, “United in Hate,” p. 107-108.

b. It is the blood that informs the act. In the 1971 assassination of Jordan’s prime minister, Wasfi l-Tell, by PLO terrorists. “As he lay there, one of his killers bent over and lapped the blood that poured from his wounds.” http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/226317/know-thy-enemy/michael-ledeen



Islamism, irrigating the earth with human blood.

There are so many fallacies in your post. I can tell you never went to college because any professor would destroy your work.

Do you know any Muslims? Have you spoken to them? You are just using stereotypes to advance your premise.

I have worked with many Muslims and spoken to them and they were in the airforce with me. I have also been to nations that are the majority worshipping Islam. Sure some nations have problems and issues. But every one I have met has been courteous and polite and hard workers. You need to get out of your shell and your superiority attitude, but then you probably have never even left the town you live in. I shouldn't expect much from you.

I would appreciate it if you would tell me just what POLITICAL CHIC said that you know to be false because YOU KNOW MUSLIMS. I am not young-------I have worked closely with muslims for a LONG TIME-------right here in the USA. It just happens that I worked with lots of muslims------closely. -----educated muslims---educated in muslim countries. I have had deep conversation with muslims educated in their own traditional way-------starting when I was 14 years old----LONG LONG AGO. (I is damned old) I have hardly left the USA-----but I have been around the world thru my----"interactions" with humans. You know nothing about islam or muslims

 

[PoliticalChic]

1. As the axiom goes, "we can only know others by ourselves."
In other words, when we lack knowledge of, or experience with, other folks, we usually assume that they would act and think exactly the way we do.

That may very well be a terrible mistake when it come to making judgments about the culture of nations that live under Islam, compared to western nations that result from Judeo-Christian traditions.




In three very significant and dramatic ways, the culture of Islam is in no way comparable to that of Judeo-Christian traditions.....and not in a good way:


a) love of death vs the sanctity of life

b) pederasty, sexual use of young boys

c) treatment of women, genital mutilation




2. Western religious tradition is based on the sanctity of human life. Fundamental Islam, based on something very different, and, in fact, has been called a 'death cult.'

“We should by now have become used to the death cult that is thriving at the fringes of the Muslim world. This is the cult of people who are proud to declare, "You love life, but we love death." This is the cult that sent waves of defenseless children to be mowed down on the battlefields of the Iran-Iraq war, that trains kindergartners to become bombs, that fetishizes death, that sends people off joyfully to commit mass murder. Because the death cult is not really about the cause it purports to serve. It's about the sheer pleasure of killing and dying.” http://www.nytimes.com/2004/09/07/opinion/07brooks.html


a. Leading Muslim clerics often refer to the love of death. Chief Palestinian Authority cleric Mufti Sheikh Ikrimeh Sabri stated, "We tell them, in as much as you love life, the Muslim loves death and martyrdom.” http://old.nationalreview.com/comment/stalinsky200405240846.asp


b. And so, the ideals and idea of America, and the iconic message of the Declaration of Independence, ‘life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness,’ is anathema to Islamism, just as it was to fascism and communism, and every totalitarian philosophy.



3. When the Iranian revolution came to power, with the help of Democratic President Jimmy Carter, the Ayatollah Khomeini killed more human beings (about twenty thousand) in two weeks than had been killed by the Shah during his entire thirty-eight years. Khomeini followed this by sending hundreds of thousands of Iranians to die in the Iran-Iraq war, as martyrdom was needed to resurrect the Islamic Empire. Paul Berman, “Terror and Liberalism,” p. 108

a. Outlined by Dr. Hans-Peter Raddatz, Orientalist, and frequent critic of Islam, this blood-lust was the explanation of Iran’s demand for a truce, when it was learned that Iraq planned to kill the waves of Iranians with Tabun and Sarin nerve gas, which would not cause blood to flow. Glazov, “United in Hate,” p. 107-108.

b. It is the blood that informs the act. In the 1971 assassination of Jordan’s prime minister, Wasfi l-Tell, by PLO terrorists. “As he lay there, one of his killers bent over and lapped the blood that poured from his wounds.” http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/226317/know-thy-enemy/michael-ledeen



Islamism, irrigating the earth with human blood.

There are so many fallacies in your post. I can tell you never went to college because any professor would destroy your work.

Do you know any Muslims? Have you spoken to them? You are just using stereotypes to advance your premise.

I have worked with many Muslims and spoken to them and they were in the airforce with me. I have also been to nations that are the majority worshipping Islam. Sure some nations have problems and issues. But every one I have met has been courteous and polite and hard workers. You need to get out of your shell and your superiority attitude, but then you probably have never even left the town you live in. I shouldn't expect much from you.

1. "There are so many fallacies in your post."

Well....there is a simple test to determine whether you post is correct, or merely one more iteration of the usual Liberal "is not, is noottttttt!"

We simply consider all of the examples of fallacies you were able to find....

Hmmm......none.

2. Clearly you are just one more Liberal dunce.



3. "Sure some nations have problems and issues."
Kinda like these:
a) love of death vs the sanctity of life
b) pederasty, sexual use of young boys
c) treatment of women, genital mutilation

Just the sort of "problems and issues" that don't belong in America....but are met with a shrug by you Liberals.



4. "I can tell you never went to college because any professor would destroy your work."
Wrong again, dunce.
And...not only did I go to a better school than you did....but mine has the best fight song in the nation.....that's why I'm so good at it.

 

[TimothysAlaska]

1. As the axiom goes, "we can only know others by ourselves."
In other words, when we lack knowledge of, or experience with, other folks, we usually assume that they would act and think exactly the way we do.

That may very well be a terrible mistake when it come to making judgments about the culture of nations that live under Islam, compared to western nations that result from Judeo-Christian traditions.




In three very significant and dramatic ways, the culture of Islam is in no way comparable to that of Judeo-Christian traditions.....and not in a good way:


a) love of death vs the sanctity of life

b) pederasty, sexual use of young boys

c) treatment of women, genital mutilation




2. Western religious tradition is based on the sanctity of human life. Fundamental Islam, based on something very different, and, in fact, has been called a 'death cult.'

“We should by now have become used to the death cult that is thriving at the fringes of the Muslim world. This is the cult of people who are proud to declare, "You love life, but we love death." This is the cult that sent waves of defenseless children to be mowed down on the battlefields of the Iran-Iraq war, that trains kindergartners to become bombs, that fetishizes death, that sends people off joyfully to commit mass murder. Because the death cult is not really about the cause it purports to serve. It's about the sheer pleasure of killing and dying.” http://www.nytimes.com/2004/09/07/opinion/07brooks.html


a. Leading Muslim clerics often refer to the love of death. Chief Palestinian Authority cleric Mufti Sheikh Ikrimeh Sabri stated, "We tell them, in as much as you love life, the Muslim loves death and martyrdom.” http://old.nationalreview.com/comment/stalinsky200405240846.asp


b. And so, the ideals and idea of America, and the iconic message of the Declaration of Independence, ‘life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness,’ is anathema to Islamism, just as it was to fascism and communism, and every totalitarian philosophy.



3. When the Iranian revolution came to power, with the help of Democratic President Jimmy Carter, the Ayatollah Khomeini killed more human beings (about twenty thousand) in two weeks than had been killed by the Shah during his entire thirty-eight years. Khomeini followed this by sending hundreds of thousands of Iranians to die in the Iran-Iraq war, as martyrdom was needed to resurrect the Islamic Empire. Paul Berman, “Terror and Liberalism,” p. 108

a. Outlined by Dr. Hans-Peter Raddatz, Orientalist, and frequent critic of Islam, this blood-lust was the explanation of Iran’s demand for a truce, when it was learned that Iraq planned to kill the waves of Iranians with Tabun and Sarin nerve gas, which would not cause blood to flow. Glazov, “United in Hate,” p. 107-108.

b. It is the blood that informs the act. In the 1971 assassination of Jordan’s prime minister, Wasfi l-Tell, by PLO terrorists. “As he lay there, one of his killers bent over and lapped the blood that poured from his wounds.” http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/226317/know-thy-enemy/michael-ledeen



Islamism, irrigating the earth with human blood.

There are so many fallacies in your post. I can tell you never went to college because any professor would destroy your work.

Do you know any Muslims? Have you spoken to them? You are just using stereotypes to advance your premise.

I have worked with many Muslims and spoken to them and they were in the airforce with me. I have also been to nations that are the majority worshipping Islam. Sure some nations have problems and issues. But every one I have met has been courteous and polite and hard workers. You need to get out of your shell and your superiority attitude, but then you probably have never even left the town you live in. I shouldn't expect much from you.

1. "There are so many fallacies in your post."

Well....there is a simple test to determine whether you post is correct, or merely one more iteration of the usual Liberal "is not, is noottttttt!"

We simply consider all of the examples of fallacies you were able to find....

Hmmm......none.

2. Clearly you are just one more Liberal dunce.



3. "Sure some nations have problems and issues."
Kinda like these:
a) love of death vs the sanctity of life
b) pederasty, sexual use of young boys
c) treatment of women, genital mutilation

Just the sort of "problems and issues" that don't belong in America....but are met with a shrug by you Liberals.



4. "I can tell you never went to college because any professor would destroy your work."
Wrong again, dunce.
And...not only did I go to a better school than you did....but mine has the best fight song in the nation.....that's why I'm so good at it.

a) love of death vs the sanctity of life
b) pederasty, sexual use of young boys
c) treatment of women, genital mutilation

All of these things can be used against christianity.

I think both religions are wrong. And there are women who agree with islam. It is a cultural religious thing. Because they don't believe like you do you attack them. christianity evolves it changes and with it the God of christianity changes. Islam does not evolve or change. I can find things that christians have done that are considered evil today. Yet according to the bible they would go to heaven.

I mean the God of the bible was very cruel, and if you suffered from any affliction, or had any mark or blemish you were considered unclean. Dwarfism birthmarks, things not in your control. And you were not allowed to be in the presence of the lord to offer sacrifice.

But Christianity has changed and continues to change, all to attract a younger crowd.

And Christianity worships death, how many people just on this forum are anticipating the end of the world and judgement day. They feverously look at current events and try to line them up to biblical phrophesy. Mocking the unbelievers and warning them. It is all too silly.

Just because I do not believe in any religion means I am liberal, lol. I don't think you know what liberal and conservatism are and solely base it on a religious nature. According to you if you are liberal you don't believe in God. Again you have fallacies all through your post. Apparently your college was devoid of critical thinking skills and reasoning.

 

[irosie91]

1. As the axiom goes, "we can only know others by ourselves."
In other words, when we lack knowledge of, or experience with, other folks, we usually assume that they would act and think exactly the way we do.

That may very well be a terrible mistake when it come to making judgments about the culture of nations that live under Islam, compared to western nations that result from Judeo-Christian traditions.




In three very significant and dramatic ways, the culture of Islam is in no way comparable to that of Judeo-Christian traditions.....and not in a good way:


a) love of death vs the sanctity of life

b) pederasty, sexual use of young boys

c) treatment of women, genital mutilation




2. Western religious tradition is based on the sanctity of human life. Fundamental Islam, based on something very different, and, in fact, has been called a 'death cult.'

“We should by now have become used to the death cult that is thriving at the fringes of the Muslim world. This is the cult of people who are proud to declare, "You love life, but we love death." This is the cult that sent waves of defenseless children to be mowed down on the battlefields of the Iran-Iraq war, that trains kindergartners to become bombs, that fetishizes death, that sends people off joyfully to commit mass murder. Because the death cult is not really about the cause it purports to serve. It's about the sheer pleasure of killing and dying.” http://www.nytimes.com/2004/09/07/opinion/07brooks.html


a. Leading Muslim clerics often refer to the love of death. Chief Palestinian Authority cleric Mufti Sheikh Ikrimeh Sabri stated, "We tell them, in as much as you love life, the Muslim loves death and martyrdom.” http://old.nationalreview.com/comment/stalinsky200405240846.asp


b. And so, the ideals and idea of America, and the iconic message of the Declaration of Independence, ‘life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness,’ is anathema to Islamism, just as it was to fascism and communism, and every totalitarian philosophy.



3. When the Iranian revolution came to power, with the help of Democratic President Jimmy Carter, the Ayatollah Khomeini killed more human beings (about twenty thousand) in two weeks than had been killed by the Shah during his entire thirty-eight years. Khomeini followed this by sending hundreds of thousands of Iranians to die in the Iran-Iraq war, as martyrdom was needed to resurrect the Islamic Empire. Paul Berman, “Terror and Liberalism,” p. 108

a. Outlined by Dr. Hans-Peter Raddatz, Orientalist, and frequent critic of Islam, this blood-lust was the explanation of Iran’s demand for a truce, when it was learned that Iraq planned to kill the waves of Iranians with Tabun and Sarin nerve gas, which would not cause blood to flow. Glazov, “United in Hate,” p. 107-108.

b. It is the blood that informs the act. In the 1971 assassination of Jordan’s prime minister, Wasfi l-Tell, by PLO terrorists. “As he lay there, one of his killers bent over and lapped the blood that poured from his wounds.” http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/226317/know-thy-enemy/michael-ledeen



Islamism, irrigating the earth with human blood.

There are so many fallacies in your post. I can tell you never went to college because any professor would destroy your work.

Do you know any Muslims? Have you spoken to them? You are just using stereotypes to advance your premise.

I have worked with many Muslims and spoken to them and they were in the airforce with me. I have also been to nations that are the majority worshipping Islam. Sure some nations have problems and issues. But every one I have met has been courteous and polite and hard workers. You need to get out of your shell and your superiority attitude, but then you probably have never even left the town you live in. I shouldn't expect much from you.

1. "There are so many fallacies in your post."

Well....there is a simple test to determine whether you post is correct, or merely one more iteration of the usual Liberal "is not, is noottttttt!"

We simply consider all of the examples of fallacies you were able to find....

Hmmm......none.

2. Clearly you are just one more Liberal dunce.



3. "Sure some nations have problems and issues."
Kinda like these:
a) love of death vs the sanctity of life
b) pederasty, sexual use of young boys
c) treatment of women, genital mutilation

Just the sort of "problems and issues" that don't belong in America....but are met with a shrug by you Liberals.



4. "I can tell you never went to college because any professor would destroy your work."
Wrong again, dunce.
And...not only did I go to a better school than you did....but mine has the best fight song in the nation.....that's why I'm so good at it.

a) love of death vs the sanctity of life
b) pederasty, sexual use of young boys
c) treatment of women, genital mutilation

All of these things can be used against christianity.

I think both religions are wrong. And there are women who agree with islam. It is a cultural religious thing. Because they don't believe like you do you attack them. christianity evolves it changes and with it the God of christianity changes. Islam does not evolve or change. I can find things that christians have done that are considered evil today. Yet according to the bible they would go to heaven.

I mean the God of the bible was very cruel, and if you suffered from any affliction, or had any mark or blemish you were considered unclean. Dwarfism birthmarks, things not in your control. And you were not allowed to be in the presence of the lord to offer sacrifice.

But Christianity has changed and continues to change, all to attract a younger crowd.

And Christianity worships death, how many people just on this forum are anticipating the end of the world and judgement day. They feverously look at current events and try to line them up to biblical phrophesy. Mocking the unbelievers and warning them. It is all too silly.

Just because I do not believe in any religion means I am liberal, lol. I don't think you know what liberal and conservatism are and solely base it on a religious nature. According to you if you are liberal you don't believe in God. Again you have fallacies all through your post. Apparently your college was devoid of critical thinking skills and reasoning.

you are misinformed and incoherent-------did you graduate yet?

 

[PoliticalChic]

1. As the axiom goes, "we can only know others by ourselves."
In other words, when we lack knowledge of, or experience with, other folks, we usually assume that they would act and think exactly the way we do.

That may very well be a terrible mistake when it come to making judgments about the culture of nations that live under Islam, compared to western nations that result from Judeo-Christian traditions.




In three very significant and dramatic ways, the culture of Islam is in no way comparable to that of Judeo-Christian traditions.....and not in a good way:


a) love of death vs the sanctity of life

b) pederasty, sexual use of young boys

c) treatment of women, genital mutilation




2. Western religious tradition is based on the sanctity of human life. Fundamental Islam, based on something very different, and, in fact, has been called a 'death cult.'

“We should by now have become used to the death cult that is thriving at the fringes of the Muslim world. This is the cult of people who are proud to declare, "You love life, but we love death." This is the cult that sent waves of defenseless children to be mowed down on the battlefields of the Iran-Iraq war, that trains kindergartners to become bombs, that fetishizes death, that sends people off joyfully to commit mass murder. Because the death cult is not really about the cause it purports to serve. It's about the sheer pleasure of killing and dying.” http://www.nytimes.com/2004/09/07/opinion/07brooks.html


a. Leading Muslim clerics often refer to the love of death. Chief Palestinian Authority cleric Mufti Sheikh Ikrimeh Sabri stated, "We tell them, in as much as you love life, the Muslim loves death and martyrdom.” http://old.nationalreview.com/comment/stalinsky200405240846.asp


b. And so, the ideals and idea of America, and the iconic message of the Declaration of Independence, ‘life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness,’ is anathema to Islamism, just as it was to fascism and communism, and every totalitarian philosophy.



3. When the Iranian revolution came to power, with the help of Democratic President Jimmy Carter, the Ayatollah Khomeini killed more human beings (about twenty thousand) in two weeks than had been killed by the Shah during his entire thirty-eight years. Khomeini followed this by sending hundreds of thousands of Iranians to die in the Iran-Iraq war, as martyrdom was needed to resurrect the Islamic Empire. Paul Berman, “Terror and Liberalism,” p. 108

a. Outlined by Dr. Hans-Peter Raddatz, Orientalist, and frequent critic of Islam, this blood-lust was the explanation of Iran’s demand for a truce, when it was learned that Iraq planned to kill the waves of Iranians with Tabun and Sarin nerve gas, which would not cause blood to flow. Glazov, “United in Hate,” p. 107-108.

b. It is the blood that informs the act. In the 1971 assassination of Jordan’s prime minister, Wasfi l-Tell, by PLO terrorists. “As he lay there, one of his killers bent over and lapped the blood that poured from his wounds.” http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/226317/know-thy-enemy/michael-ledeen



Islamism, irrigating the earth with human blood.

There are so many fallacies in your post. I can tell you never went to college because any professor would destroy your work.

Do you know any Muslims? Have you spoken to them? You are just using stereotypes to advance your premise.

I have worked with many Muslims and spoken to them and they were in the airforce with me. I have also been to nations that are the majority worshipping Islam. Sure some nations have problems and issues. But every one I have met has been courteous and polite and hard workers. You need to get out of your shell and your superiority attitude, but then you probably have never even left the town you live in. I shouldn't expect much from you.

1. "There are so many fallacies in your post."

Well....there is a simple test to determine whether you post is correct, or merely one more iteration of the usual Liberal "is not, is noottttttt!"

We simply consider all of the examples of fallacies you were able to find....

Hmmm......none.

2. Clearly you are just one more Liberal dunce.



3. "Sure some nations have problems and issues."
Kinda like these:
a) love of death vs the sanctity of life
b) pederasty, sexual use of young boys
c) treatment of women, genital mutilation

Just the sort of "problems and issues" that don't belong in America....but are met with a shrug by you Liberals.



4. "I can tell you never went to college because any professor would destroy your work."
Wrong again, dunce.
And...not only did I go to a better school than you did....but mine has the best fight song in the nation.....that's why I'm so good at it.

a) love of death vs the sanctity of life
b) pederasty, sexual use of young boys
c) treatment of women, genital mutilation

All of these things can be used against christianity.

I think both religions are wrong. And there are women who agree with islam. It is a cultural religious thing. Because they don't believe like you do you attack them. christianity evolves it changes and with it the God of christianity changes. Islam does not evolve or change. I can find things that christians have done that are considered evil today. Yet according to the bible they would go to heaven.

I mean the God of the bible was very cruel, and if you suffered from any affliction, or had any mark or blemish you were considered unclean. Dwarfism birthmarks, things not in your control. And you were not allowed to be in the presence of the lord to offer sacrifice.

But Christianity has changed and continues to change, all to attract a younger crowd.

And Christianity worships death, how many people just on this forum are anticipating the end of the world and judgement day. They feverously look at current events and try to line them up to biblical phrophesy. Mocking the unbelievers and warning them. It is all too silly.

Just because I do not believe in any religion means I am liberal, lol. I don't think you know what liberal and conservatism are and solely base it on a religious nature. According to you if you are liberal you don't believe in God. Again you have fallacies all through your post. Apparently your college was devoid of critical thinking skills and reasoning.

a) love of death vs the sanctity of life
b) pederasty, sexual use of young boys
c) treatment of women, genital mutilation
"All of these things can be used against christianity (sic)"

A total fabrication of the sort a dunce/secularist would come up with.

 

[PoliticalChic]

"5 AFGHAN TEENS IN SWEDEN CHARGED WITH RAPING AFGHAN BOY

STOCKHOLM (AP) -- Swedish authorities on Tuesday charged five teenagers from Afghanistan with aggravated rape for allegedly dragging another Afghan boy into a forest, threatening him with a knife and raping him.

...the five suspects are 16 and 17 years old, while the boy they allegedly assaulted is under 15. Stromback said all arrived in Sweden as unaccompanied minors seeking asylum."
News from The Associated Press

 

[irosie91]

"5 AFGHAN TEENS IN SWEDEN CHARGED WITH RAPING AFGHAN BOY

STOCKHOLM (AP) -- Swedish authorities on Tuesday charged five teenagers from Afghanistan with aggravated rape for allegedly dragging another Afghan boy into a forest, threatening him with a knife and raping him.

...the five suspects are 16 and 17 years old, while the boy they allegedly assaulted is under 15. Stromback said all arrived in Sweden as unaccompanied minors seeking asylum."
News from The Associated Press

must be some reason for the act to be ISLAMICALLY allowed-----maybe the little
boy was the wrong KIND of muslim or even
a member of the very tiny Hindu or Sikh minority. In shariah shit holes ----all of the boys including the victim would be executed for homosexuality unless there is a "good" emulate al nabi-----reason for the act

 

[aris2chat]

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