Explanation of how Illegals will be covered under HR3200

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    HR3200 and Illegal Immigrants…America BEING SNOOKERED! at Desert Conservative

    Nothing illustrates America’s distrust of Congress quite like the illegal immigrant provision of the House health care bill, HR 3200.
    President Obama made it the first item in his last radio address:

    “I want to spend a few minutes debunking some of the more outrageous myths circulating on the Internet, on cable TV, and repeated at some town halls across this country.

    “Let’s start with the false claim that illegal immigrants will get health insurance under reform. That’s not true. Illegal immigrants would not be covered.”

    Obama chose his words with great care. Section 246 of the bill — dealing solely with insurance subsidies — states: “Nothing in this subtitle shall allow Federal payments for affordability credits on behalf of individuals who are not lawfully present in the United States.”
    Defenders of the bill frequently quote and display copies of this section at their town hall meetings.

    Notice how narrow this is? It says they should not receive the bill’s new insurance subsidies. It doesn’t say they can’t receive taxpayer-paid health care. It doesn’t say they can’t receive other benefits from HR 3200, such as the expanded Medicaid.

    Obama obviously wants to leave the impression that government won’t pay health care for illegals. It’s a false impression. Here are the two big fallacies with Obama’s carefully-chosen and scripted words:

    There are other avenues for illegal aliens to receive health care at public expense.

    All efforts to add enforcement language to HR3200 were defeated by mostly party-line votes. We can expect that the bureaucracy would look the other way under Obama’s control (just as it has with prior presidents). Current law says illegal aliens qualify only for emergency medical care through Medicaid. Most of these are childbirths. These costs exceed $3 billion a year. But because few states require proof of legal presence for regular Medicaid, nobody knows the true number of illegals who receive it, or at what cost.

    The House bill not only makes a major expansion of Medicaid eligibility but also restricts (in Section 1702) inquiries about immigration status. Efforts to fix this and to add enforcement provisions to HR 3200 were offered in the Ways & Means Committee by Rep. Dean Heller (R-Nev.) and in the Energy & Commerce Committee by Rep. Nathan Deal (R-Ga.), but voted down. No Democrats supported Heller. Blue Dog Representatives Mike Ross (D-Ark.), Jim Matheson (D-Utah), Charles Melancon (D-La.), John Barrow (D-Ga.), and Baron Hill (D-Ind.) voted for the Deal proposal.

    So we still have the problem as described by Rep. Lamar Smith (R-Texas) in his op-ed for The Hill:

     
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    Someone ought to tell Obama...though I think one rep did.

    The "YOU LIE!" representative. Perhaps this is what he was talking about?
     
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    And the MSM will focus on the outburst, not the reason for it.
     
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    Yep--the main stream media aka the Obama media networks have their man under cover. Don't ask any real questions about HR3200--for God sakes don't actually read the bill & especially this article which basically is a mandate for illegals to get free health care paid for on the backs of the American taxpayer. Shhhhssss.

    "The Devil is always in those little itsy bitsy details"

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    it's much simpler than you think.

    Obama might not have been lying (this time). All he has to and what he most likely will do is to make all people currently illegal legal with the stroke of a pen and voila! no illegals will be covered under the government plan because they won't be illegal any more.
     
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    The House bill, H.R. 3200, excludes anyone who is not a legal resident of the United States from coverage of extended insurance provisions. Section 246 reads, "Nothing in this subtitle shall allow Federal payments for affordability credits on behalf of individuals who are not lawfully present in the United States."
     
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    The House bill, H.R. 3200, excludes anyone who is not a legal resident of the United States from coverage of extended insurance provisions. Section 246 reads, "Nothing in this subtitle shall allow Federal payments for affordability credits on behalf of individuals who are not lawfully present in the United States."
     
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    post it another hundred times, it still wont have any verification in it
     
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    How do they determine if someone is lawfully present in the United States?
     

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