EU vows crackdown on Poland & Hungary.

The article is very vague, just citing some unspecified violations of EU “laws”.

What I get out of the article is a cautionary tale, of what happens when a nation gives up its sovereignty to a foreign power, and lets that power impose its own laws, in violation of the will of the people of that nation.

It is, of course, no surprise at all to see Tainted Tommy openly siding with the unaccountable foreign tyranny, and against the citizens of these nations that ought to have preserved their sovereignty and their ability to represent the will of their citizens. He is, after all, opposed to the movement in his own nation to free itself from exactly the same abuse; and has shown that he doesn't get why my nation, the U.S., fought a major war almost two and a half centuries ago to free itself from similar abuse perpetrated against us by his nation.

So let me get this straight. Poland and Hungary are rolling back press freedoms, the independence of the judiciary, and the EU is saying, that doesn't comport with the values of the EU, and they are the bad ones here?

Really?

When did the Poles and Hungarians vote for more tyrannical governments... I'm guessing they didn't.
 
Both of those shitholes are taking the piss.

Hmm, so why does Poland score higher educational PISA scores, higher literacy rates, have less murder, less crime, less drug abuse, less single mothers, and less gangs + terrorism than the shithole of the UK?
Because all your criminals and drunks come over here.

Not really, Polish migrant rates of criminality are low in the UK.

You Brits are some of the most dumb people I've ever encountered in my life.

Blacks, and Muslims make up far more crime than Poles do in the UK.

But, the average Brit can't grasp fact, and is entwined with Political Correctness, so they WILL attack Poles, but not Blacks, and Muslims.
 
The article is very vague, just citing some unspecified violations of EU “laws”.

What I get out of the article is a cautionary tale, of what happens when a nation gives up its sovereignty to a foreign power, and lets that power impose its own laws, in violation of the will of the people of that nation.

It is, of course, no surprise at all to see Tainted Tommy openly siding with the unaccountable foreign tyranny, and against the citizens of these nations that ought to have preserved their sovereignty and their ability to represent the will of their citizens. He is, after all, opposed to the movement in his own nation to free itself from exactly the same abuse; and has shown that he doesn't get why my nation, the U.S., fought a major war almost two and a half centuries ago to free itself from similar abuse perpetrated against us by his nation.

So let me get this straight. Poland and Hungary are rolling back press freedoms, the independence of the judiciary, and the EU is saying, that doesn't comport with the values of the EU, and they are the bad ones here?

Really?

When did the Poles and Hungarians vote for more tyrannical governments... I'm guessing they didn't.

Germany, Sweden, UK are jailing people for freedom of speech, and also have state media.
But, the EU is silent about that.

As for the Judiciary, the Polish Civic Platform Liberals actually started the crisis, by enacting 3 judges before leaving offices, 2 of those illegal judges.

How dare Polish Law, and Justice Conservatives combat the fact that in a country that voted about 3 out of 10 for Civic Platform, that a staggering 14 out of 15 judges were Civic Platform.

Of course, the EU maniacs remained silent when Polish Liberals kept stacking their judges into the Polish courts, some of them even illegal picks, some of them even enacted after their terms expired.
 
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Both of those shitholes are taking the piss.

Hmm, so why does Poland score higher educational PISA scores, higher literacy rates, have less murder, less crime, less drug abuse, less single mothers, and less gangs + terrorism than the shithole of the UK?

Ireland ( Northern ) is part of the UK, and who want to mate with a Polish woman when you know she will be the size of a bus after one kid?

Look, Poland is a waste and always has been and no matter how much propaganda you attempt your Utopia is like Russia to most non-Polish and just another Slovak shithole...

So obey the E.U. or face their wrath...

Poland's a waste?
Hmm.
Yet, Poland helped save Europe from Islam with Jan III Sobieski in the Battle of Vienna, helped save Europe from Soviets with Jozef Pilsudski in the Polish - Soviet war.
Poles like Kosciuzko, and Pulaski helped found the USA.
Pole Ryszard Kuklinski helped prevent WW3 by disclosing Soviet secrets to the USA, CIA.
Poles with Solidarity lead by Lech Walesa, propped up by Pope Jan Pawel II, and with Zbigniew Brzezinski's engineering of the Afghan-Soviet war, played a pivotal part of ending the Soviet Union.

Even the scientific revolution is said to have started with Copernicus of Poland.

Now, Poland's standing at the forefront against the Islamic & Soviet invasions of Europe once again.

Western Europeans are clueless.
 

The USA has killed millions of people in Wars since WW2.

Poland killed????????

Yet, lets attack Poland because they don't want refugees, and want to sort out a stacked court system, stacked by the Polish Liberals.

In a country of Poland that votes majority Right-Wing, the Courts had approx 95% Polish Liberal judges, some of them illegally posted up for positions by Polish Liberal Civic Platform or PO.
They are not liberals, they are people who believe in the law.

So, the EU isn't Liberal?

Now who's being clueless?
 
Both of those shitholes are taking the piss.

Hmm, so why does Poland score higher educational PISA scores, higher literacy rates, have less murder, less crime, less drug abuse, less single mothers, and less gangs + terrorism than the shithole of the UK?

Ireland ( Northern ) is part of the UK, and who want to mate with a Polish woman when you know she will be the size of a bus after one kid?

Look, Poland is a waste and always has been and no matter how much propaganda you attempt your Utopia is like Russia to most non-Polish and just another Slovak shithole...

So obey the E.U. or face their wrath...

Poland's a waste?
Hmm.
Yet, Poland helped save Europe from Islam with Jan III Sobieski in the Battle of Vienna, helped save Europe from Soviets with Jozef Pilsudski in the Polish - Soviet war.
Poles like Kosciuzko, and Pulaski helped found the USA.
Pole Ryszard Kuklinski helped prevent WW3 by disclosing Soviet secrets to the USA, CIA.
Poles with Solidarity lead by Lech Walesa, propped up by Pope Jan Pawel II, and with Zbigniew Brzezinski's engineering of the Afghan-Soviet war, played a pivotal part of ending the Soviet Union.

Even the scientific revolution is said to have started with Copernicus of Poland.

Now, Poland's standing at the forefront against the Islamic & Soviet invasions of Europe once again.

Western Europeans are clueless.
Who was it who said that Poland was like England without a channel? The EU pisses me off because Americans used to be able to spend three months in each of 27 countries and then go back and do it again. Now they can spent three months in the entire EU. Does not Help communications and understanding....
 

The USA has killed millions of people in Wars since WW2.

Poland killed????????

Yet, lets attack Poland because they don't want refugees, and want to sort out a stacked court system, stacked by the Polish Liberals.

In a country of Poland that votes majority Right-Wing, the Courts had approx 95% Polish Liberal judges, some of them illegally posted up for positions by Polish Liberal Civic Platform or PO.
They are not liberals, they are people who believe in the law.

So, the EU isn't Liberal?

Now who's being clueless?
Everyone who is free and well-informed is liberal LOL
 
Both of those shitholes are taking the piss.

Hmm, so why does Poland score higher educational PISA scores, higher literacy rates, have less murder, less crime, less drug abuse, less single mothers, and less gangs + terrorism than the shithole of the UK?

Ireland ( Northern ) is part of the UK, and who want to mate with a Polish woman when you know she will be the size of a bus after one kid?

Look, Poland is a waste and always has been and no matter how much propaganda you attempt your Utopia is like Russia to most non-Polish and just another Slovak shithole...

So obey the E.U. or face their wrath...

Poland's a waste?
Hmm.
Yet, Poland helped save Europe from Islam with Jan III Sobieski in the Battle of Vienna, helped save Europe from Soviets with Jozef Pilsudski in the Polish - Soviet war.
Poles like Kosciuzko, and Pulaski helped found the USA.
Pole Ryszard Kuklinski helped prevent WW3 by disclosing Soviet secrets to the USA, CIA.
Poles with Solidarity lead by Lech Walesa, propped up by Pope Jan Pawel II, and with Zbigniew Brzezinski's engineering of the Afghan-Soviet war, played a pivotal part of ending the Soviet Union.

Even the scientific revolution is said to have started with Copernicus of Poland.

Now, Poland's standing at the forefront against the Islamic & Soviet invasions of Europe once again.

Western Europeans are clueless.

Blah, Blah, Blah!

Boy you live in the far past don't ya!?!

A poor man version of Russia is what Poland tis...
 
Both of those shitholes are taking the piss.

Hmm, so why does Poland score higher educational PISA scores, higher literacy rates, have less murder, less crime, less drug abuse, less single mothers, and less gangs + terrorism than the shithole of the UK?

Ireland ( Northern ) is part of the UK, and who want to mate with a Polish woman when you know she will be the size of a bus after one kid?

Look, Poland is a waste and always has been and no matter how much propaganda you attempt your Utopia is like Russia to most non-Polish and just another Slovak shithole...

So obey the E.U. or face their wrath...

Poland's a waste?
Hmm.
Yet, Poland helped save Europe from Islam with Jan III Sobieski in the Battle of Vienna, helped save Europe from Soviets with Jozef Pilsudski in the Polish - Soviet war.
Poles like Kosciuzko, and Pulaski helped found the USA.
Pole Ryszard Kuklinski helped prevent WW3 by disclosing Soviet secrets to the USA, CIA.
Poles with Solidarity lead by Lech Walesa, propped up by Pope Jan Pawel II, and with Zbigniew Brzezinski's engineering of the Afghan-Soviet war, played a pivotal part of ending the Soviet Union.

Even the scientific revolution is said to have started with Copernicus of Poland.

Now, Poland's standing at the forefront against the Islamic & Soviet invasions of Europe once again.

Western Europeans are clueless.

Blah, Blah, Blah!

Boy you live in the far past don't ya!?!

A poor man version of Russia is what Poland tis...

Poland's wealthier than Russia.
 

The USA has killed millions of people in Wars since WW2.

Poland killed????????

Yet, lets attack Poland because they don't want refugees, and want to sort out a stacked court system, stacked by the Polish Liberals.

In a country of Poland that votes majority Right-Wing, the Courts had approx 95% Polish Liberal judges, some of them illegally posted up for positions by Polish Liberal Civic Platform or PO.
They are not liberals, they are people who believe in the law.

So, the EU isn't Liberal?

Now who's being clueless?
Everyone who is free and well-informed is liberal LOL

Republicans, and Democrats are both pretty ignorant, on the whole.

Poland gets much more correctly, having healthcare by the state at a much lower cost than the USA. In fact Poles pay about 1/4th of the USA on healthcare spending.

Of course, Poland's correct on denouncing Islamic refugees, and on cracking down on Abortion.

Poland's also correct in standing up to what Jew Norman Finkelstein calls the Holocaust industry.

Poland also has much lower taxes than the USA.

Yet, Poland's education results as shown by the PISA scores are higher, same thing with Poland's literacy rate.

Poland's also smart in supplementing family monetary government incomes, to encourage a healthy birthrate.

My only gripe with Poland is that more should be done to limit coal pollution.
 
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Look, Poland is a waste and always has been and no matter how much propaganda you attempt your Utopia is like Russia to most non-Polish and just another Slovak shithole...
Well, Poland was a strong regional power in the Modern times for a couple of centuries.
 
Both of those shitholes are taking the piss.

Hmm, so why does Poland score higher educational PISA scores, higher literacy rates, have less murder, less crime, less drug abuse, less single mothers, and less gangs + terrorism than the shithole of the UK?

Ireland ( Northern ) is part of the UK, and who want to mate with a Polish woman when you know she will be the size of a bus after one kid?

Look, Poland is a waste and always has been and no matter how much propaganda you attempt your Utopia is like Russia to most non-Polish and just another Slovak shithole...

So obey the E.U. or face their wrath...

Poland's a waste?
Hmm.
Yet, Poland helped save Europe from Islam with Jan III Sobieski in the Battle of Vienna, helped save Europe from Soviets with Jozef Pilsudski in the Polish - Soviet war.
Poles like Kosciuzko, and Pulaski helped found the USA.
Pole Ryszard Kuklinski helped prevent WW3 by disclosing Soviet secrets to the USA, CIA.
Poles with Solidarity lead by Lech Walesa, propped up by Pope Jan Pawel II, and with Zbigniew Brzezinski's engineering of the Afghan-Soviet war, played a pivotal part of ending the Soviet Union.

Even the scientific revolution is said to have started with Copernicus of Poland.

Now, Poland's standing at the forefront against the Islamic & Soviet invasions of Europe once again.

Western Europeans are clueless.
Who was it who said that Poland was like England without a channel? The EU pisses me off because Americans used to be able to spend three months in each of 27 countries and then go back and do it again. Now they can spent three months in the entire EU. Does not Help communications and understanding....

How is Poland like England, exactly?

England had been looting, shooting, enslaving, and oppressing huge portions of the globe.
Then did a 180 and let a bunch of non-Whites destroy their culture.

Its like Western European nations are like the crazed gun man who kills a bunch of people, before turning the gun on himself.

Western Europeans in general are absolutely insane, ignorant, and out of control.

I have very little respect for such a delusional, and idiotic peoples.
 
Look, Poland is a waste and always has been and no matter how much propaganda you attempt your Utopia is like Russia to most non-Polish and just another Slovak shithole...
Well, Poland was a strong regional power in the Modern times for a couple of centuries.

Between roughly 1410 - 1610 Poland was actually perhaps the most advanced overall European power.

In terms of science, especially astronomy.
People like Copernicus, Albert Brudzewski, Jozef Strus, Kazimierz Siemienowicz, and Michal Sedziwoj were among the best scientists of that era.

In terms of Democracy, like the Polish Sejm Parliament offering twice the voting rights of the famed English Magna Carta.

In terms of Morality, like Poland abolishing slavery, and helping to save the Jews in the Statute of Kalisz, expanded into the Warsaw Confederacy, the first Freedom of Religion movement.\\\

In terms of the environment, where Poles of this era created some of the first Bison protection laws, and protected forests which became
Białowieża Forest
the only remaining original European forest.

In terms of Military might, as shown in the 1410 Battle of Grunwald where Poland crushed Teuton Germans & turned them into a Vassal, to the 1610 Battle of Klushino where Poland conquered Russia.
 
go back to "russia" white nigi&er , maskli will take care of all your problems

Russia has some outrageous demands for Poland, but so does the EU, and America / Israel.

Russia demands Poland keeps Soviet memorials.

EU demands Poland allows in Islamic refugees.

America / Israel demand Poland pay Jews compensations.

Wow, I wouldn't be so quick to say Russia's a worse enemy.

The West are Polish traitors, always have been.

PS.
At least Russia is Slavic & Right-Wing.

At least some Western Europeans are Catholic, and Conservative, like Italy, Austria, and to a lesser extent portions of French, and Irish culture.

Its Germanic Protestants which are the worst, and least likely to fit with Poles, having played a big role in the EU Liberalism, and in prosecuting Poland for what ever nonsense they can make up.

Germanic Protestants are garbage, and should just go extinct already.
 
Look, Poland is a waste and always has been and no matter how much propaganda you attempt your Utopia is like Russia to most non-Polish and just another Slovak shithole...
Well, Poland was a strong regional power in the Modern times for a couple of centuries.

Between roughly 1410 - 1610 Poland was actually perhaps the most advanced overall European power.

In terms of science, especially astronomy.
People like Copernicus, Albert Brudzewski, Jozef Strus, Kazimierz Siemienowicz, and Michal Sedziwoj were among the best scientists of that era.

In terms of Democracy, like the Polish Sejm Parliament offering twice the voting rights of the famed English Magna Carta.

In terms of Morality, like Poland abolishing slavery, and helping to save the Jews in the Statute of Kalisz, expanded into the Warsaw Confederacy, the first Freedom of Religion movement.\\\

In terms of the environment, where Poles of this era created some of the first Bison protection laws, and protected forests which became
Białowieża Forest
the only remaining original European forest.

In terms of Military might, as shown in the 1410 Battle of Grunwald where Poland crushed Teuton Germans & turned them into a Vassal, to the 1610 Battle of Klushino where Poland conquered Russia.
The truth as always lies somewhere in the middle.

Yes, the Polish political system can be considered progressive for its time and Poland played major role for the Jews escaping other countries. But the Polish glory lasted for comparatively short period of time and finished because of their own flaws.

You mentioned slavery. Actually Poland had had slavery for a long period of time. It was called 'panshchina'. On pair with forced polonization it led to a rebellion in the eastern territories.

The Polish sejm democracy led to virtually anarchy and inability to take crucial decisions in hard times.

And scientists... Frankly, I haven't heard about those astronomers mentioned by you, aside of Copernicus. But if one should mention him, I think it would be more fair to call him Prusso-Polish scientist, or something like that.
 
Look, Poland is a waste and always has been and no matter how much propaganda you attempt your Utopia is like Russia to most non-Polish and just another Slovak shithole...
Well, Poland was a strong regional power in the Modern times for a couple of centuries.

Between roughly 1410 - 1610 Poland was actually perhaps the most advanced overall European power.

In terms of science, especially astronomy.
People like Copernicus, Albert Brudzewski, Jozef Strus, Kazimierz Siemienowicz, and Michal Sedziwoj were among the best scientists of that era.

In terms of Democracy, like the Polish Sejm Parliament offering twice the voting rights of the famed English Magna Carta.

In terms of Morality, like Poland abolishing slavery, and helping to save the Jews in the Statute of Kalisz, expanded into the Warsaw Confederacy, the first Freedom of Religion movement.\\\

In terms of the environment, where Poles of this era created some of the first Bison protection laws, and protected forests which became
Białowieża Forest
the only remaining original European forest.

In terms of Military might, as shown in the 1410 Battle of Grunwald where Poland crushed Teuton Germans & turned them into a Vassal, to the 1610 Battle of Klushino where Poland conquered Russia.
The truth as always lies somewhere in the middle.

Yes, the Polish political system can be considered progressive for its time and Poland played major role for the Jews escaping other countries. But the Polish glory lasted for comparatively short period of time and finished because of their own flaws.

You mentioned slavery. Actually Poland had had slavery for a long period of time. It was called 'panshchina'. On pair with forced polonization it led to a rebellion in the eastern territories.

The Polish sejm democracy led to virtually anarchy and inability to take crucial decisions in hard times.

And scientists... Frankly, I haven't heard about those astronomers mentioned by you, aside of Copernicus. But if one should mention him, I think it would be more fair to call him Prusso-Polish scientist, or something like that.

Poland got Partitioned by 3 powers, its not particularly surprising that 3 countries would wipe out Poland 1 vs 3.
I'm doubtful that Polish Democracy played much of a role, other than the Polish Constitution from May 3rd, 1791, being a reason why German Prussians, Austria, and Russia invaded Poland.
Although, I think that's probably just an excuse for conquest, more than an actual reason.

Copernicus was definitely more of a Pole, he fought for the Polish Army against German Teutons (Prussians).
Actually Copernicus commanded an army to victory against German Teutons (Prussians) at the Siege of Allenstein.

Arguably, some German intellects could also be considered Prussian - Polish, people too like Gunter Grass, Charles Bukowski, Schopenhauer, Nietzsche, Rudolf Virchow, Paul Nipkow, Wernher Von Braun, among others.

PS.
On genetic terms as much as 70 - 80% of the DNA of Germans from Poland is Polish DNA,
With about 10 - 15% being German, and about 10 - 15% being Baltic.

Many of these so called "Germans" were mostly just German by culture, not by genetic, or racial structure.
 
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Doesn't your link tell you?

The USA has killed millions of people in Wars since WW2.

Poland killed????????

Yet, lets attack Poland because they don't want refugees, and want to sort out a stacked court system, stacked by the Polish Liberals.

In a country of Poland that votes majority Right-Wing, the Courts had approx 95% Polish Liberal judges, some of them illegally posted up for positions by Polish Liberal Civic Platform or PO.
They are not liberals, they are people who believe in the law.

So, the EU isn't Liberal?

Now who's being clueless?
Everyone who is free and well-informed is liberal LOL

Republicans, and Democrats are both pretty ignorant, on the whole.

Poland gets much more correctly, having healthcare by the state at a much lower cost than the USA. In fact Poles pay about 1/4th of the USA on healthcare spending.

Of course, Poland's correct on denouncing Islamic refugees, and on cracking down on Abortion.

Poland's also correct in standing up to what Jew Norman Finkelstein calls the Holocaust industry.

Poland also has much lower taxes than the USA.

Yet, Poland's education results as shown by the PISA scores are higher, same thing with Poland's literacy rate.

Poland's also smart in supplementing family monetary government incomes, to encourage a healthy birthrate.

My only gripe with Poland is that more should be done to limit coal pollution.

Poles pay about 1/4th of the USA on healthcare spending.


Poles have about 1/4th of the USA per capita GDP.
 
The USA has killed millions of people in Wars since WW2.

Poland killed????????

Yet, lets attack Poland because they don't want refugees, and want to sort out a stacked court system, stacked by the Polish Liberals.

In a country of Poland that votes majority Right-Wing, the Courts had approx 95% Polish Liberal judges, some of them illegally posted up for positions by Polish Liberal Civic Platform or PO.
They are not liberals, they are people who believe in the law.

So, the EU isn't Liberal?

Now who's being clueless?
Everyone who is free and well-informed is liberal LOL

Republicans, and Democrats are both pretty ignorant, on the whole.

Poland gets much more correctly, having healthcare by the state at a much lower cost than the USA. In fact Poles pay about 1/4th of the USA on healthcare spending.

Of course, Poland's correct on denouncing Islamic refugees, and on cracking down on Abortion.

Poland's also correct in standing up to what Jew Norman Finkelstein calls the Holocaust industry.

Poland also has much lower taxes than the USA.

Yet, Poland's education results as shown by the PISA scores are higher, same thing with Poland's literacy rate.

Poland's also smart in supplementing family monetary government incomes, to encourage a healthy birthrate.

My only gripe with Poland is that more should be done to limit coal pollution.

Poles pay about 1/4th of the USA on healthcare spending.


Poles have about 1/4th of the USA per capita GDP.

Sure, incomes are higher in the USA vs Poland.
So are prices higher too.

Not a heck of a lot of Poles come to the USA, anymore.

The quality of life in the USA, is probably lower now-a-days, anyways.

There's hardly an opium crisis in Poland, nor terrorism, nor a single mother norm, or cities anything like Detroit, or Chicago with vicious gangs, and sky high murder rates, and crime rates.

Also Poles now-a-days probably make it better in Poland.

As is the income vs cost of living of Poland vs USA vs are similar.

The issue is Poles coming to the USA, at first at least typically make more modest incomes.

The American dream is dying fast.
 
They are not liberals, they are people who believe in the law.

So, the EU isn't Liberal?

Now who's being clueless?
Everyone who is free and well-informed is liberal LOL

Republicans, and Democrats are both pretty ignorant, on the whole.

Poland gets much more correctly, having healthcare by the state at a much lower cost than the USA. In fact Poles pay about 1/4th of the USA on healthcare spending.

Of course, Poland's correct on denouncing Islamic refugees, and on cracking down on Abortion.

Poland's also correct in standing up to what Jew Norman Finkelstein calls the Holocaust industry.

Poland also has much lower taxes than the USA.

Yet, Poland's education results as shown by the PISA scores are higher, same thing with Poland's literacy rate.

Poland's also smart in supplementing family monetary government incomes, to encourage a healthy birthrate.

My only gripe with Poland is that more should be done to limit coal pollution.

Poles pay about 1/4th of the USA on healthcare spending.


Poles have about 1/4th of the USA per capita GDP.

Sure, incomes are higher in the USA vs Poland.
So are prices higher too.

So poor people spend less on heathcare….and on everything else. Great job!
 

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