Episcopal church embracing HERESY flies in the face of GOD OUR FATHER!

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By what line of rational thought does the gender of a purportedly omnipresent, omnipotent and omniscient being matter? Surely you don't think the gender reference humans use when describing and discussing such a being matters to such a being?

I personally doubt that such a being is going to be to wrried about any thing we have to say. I am pretty sure some thing able to create the universe is going to be pretty confident. I am not to sure i am interested in what I have to say half the time. I have to believe he or she would be even less interested.

If that were the case he wouldn't be pruning you.

Ya, well I am ready to bare more fruit. If the God of Isreal is real, I am pretty sure that makes me Job.

 

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By what line of rational thought does the gender of a purportedly omnipresent, omnipotent and omniscient being matter? Surely you don't think the gender reference humans use when describing and discussing such a being matters to such a being?

I personally doubt that such a being is going to be to wrried about any thing we have to say. I am pretty sure some thing able to create the universe is going to be pretty confident. I am not to sure i am interested in what I have to say half the time. I have to believe he or she would be even less interested.

If that were the case he wouldn't be pruning you.

Ya, well I am ready to bare more fruit. If the God of Isreal is real, I am pretty sure that makes me Job.

Everything is the opposite of what you think.

 

[BulletProof]

God loves all. He called Abraham-friend. All that know and love God know he is correct 100% of the time. And humans usually reason like this-Jeremiah 17:9--The heart is desperate and treacherous, who can know it?
Gods kingdom will be a cure all. Its worth living now for entrance into that than for this world.

Jesus hates the Jews, called them children of Satan, and invented the biblical concept Hell for God to corporately throw the Jews.

But, if you're too stupid to understand that Jesus coming with a shout of an archangel and the sound of a trumpet doesn't mean that Jesus is archangel or a trumpet, what chance do you have of understanding something that even most mainstream Christians refuse to grasp?

 

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God loves all. He called Abraham-friend. All that know and love God know he is correct 100% of the time. And humans usually reason like this-Jeremiah 17:9--The heart is desperate and treacherous, who can know it?
Gods kingdom will be a cure all. Its worth living now for entrance into that than for this world.

Jesus hates the Jews, called them children of Satan, and invented the biblical concept Hell for God to corporately throw the Jews.

But, if you're too stupid to understand that Jesus coming with a shout of an archangel and the sound of a trumpet doesn't mean that Jesus is archangel or a trumpet, what chance do you have of understanding something that even most mainstream Christians refuse to grasp?

You don't know what you are talking about. Or maybe you do and you are intentionally lying for subversive reasons.

I think it is the latter. What say you?

 

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[BulletProof]

God loves all. He called Abraham-friend. All that know and love God know he is correct 100% of the time. And humans usually reason like this-Jeremiah 17:9--The heart is desperate and treacherous, who can know it?
Gods kingdom will be a cure all. Its worth living now for entrance into that than for this world.

Jesus hates the Jews, called them children of Satan, and invented the biblical concept Hell for God to corporately throw the Jews.

But, if you're too stupid to understand that Jesus coming with a shout of an archangel and the sound of a trumpet doesn't mean that Jesus is archangel or a trumpet, what chance do you have of understanding something that even most mainstream Christians refuse to grasp?

You don't know what you are talking about. Or maybe you do and you are intentionally lying for subversive reasons.

I think it is the latter. What say you?

I say you're a dumbshit. Do you agree with Jesus that Jews are the children of the devil? Or, are you not a Christian (someone who agrees with Jesus)?

 

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God loves all. He called Abraham-friend. All that know and love God know he is correct 100% of the time. And humans usually reason like this-Jeremiah 17:9--The heart is desperate and treacherous, who can know it?
Gods kingdom will be a cure all. Its worth living now for entrance into that than for this world.

Jesus hates the Jews, called them children of Satan, and invented the biblical concept Hell for God to corporately throw the Jews.

But, if you're too stupid to understand that Jesus coming with a shout of an archangel and the sound of a trumpet doesn't mean that Jesus is archangel or a trumpet, what chance do you have of understanding something that even most mainstream Christians refuse to grasp?

You don't know what you are talking about. Or maybe you do and you are intentionally lying for subversive reasons.

I think it is the latter. What say you?

I say you're a dumbshit. Do you agree with Jesus that Jews are the children of the devil? Or, are you not a Christian (someone who agrees with Jesus)?

Satan is the ruler of sinful opposition to God. We are all rebels and in effect we are all the "children" of satan so to speak.

But you don't believe any of this so you are the dumbshit for even making an argument you don't believe in the first place.

Now do you understand?

 

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SECTION TWO
THE PROFESSION OF THE CHRISTIAN FAITH

CHAPTER ONE
I BELIEVE IN GOD THE FATHER

ARTICLE I
"I BELIEVE IN GOD THE FATHER ALMIGHTY, CREATOR OF HEAVEN AND EARTH"

Paragraph 7. The Fall

385 God is infinitely good and all his works are good. Yet no one can escape the experience of suffering or the evils in nature which seem to be linked to the limitations proper to creatures: and above all to the question of moral evil. Where does evil come from? "I sought whence evil comes and there was no solution", said St. Augustine,257 and his own painful quest would only be resolved by his conversion to the living God. For "the mystery of lawlessness" is clarified only in the light of the "mystery of our religion".258 The revelation of divine love in Christ manifested at the same time the extent of evil and the superabundance of grace.259 We must therefore approach the question of the origin of evil by fixing the eyes of our faith on him who alone is its conqueror.260

I. WHERE SIN ABOUNDED, GRACE ABOUNDED ALL THE MORE

The reality of sin

386 Sin is present in human history; any attempt to ignore it or to give this dark reality other names would be futile. To try to understand what sin is, one must first recognize the profound relation of man to God, for only in this relationship is the evil of sin unmasked in its true identity as humanity's rejection of God and opposition to him, even as it continues to weigh heavy on human life and history.

387 Only the light of divine Revelation clarifies the reality of sin and particularly of the sin committed at mankind's origins. Without the knowledge Revelation gives of God we cannot recognize sin clearly and are tempted to explain it as merely a developmental flaw, a psychological weakness, a mistake, or the necessary consequence of an inadequate social structure, etc. Only in the knowledge of God's plan for man can we grasp that sin is an abuse of the freedom that God gives to created persons so that they are capable of loving him and loving one another.

Original sin - an essential truth of the faith

388 With the progress of Revelation, the reality of sin is also illuminated. Although to some extent the People of God in the Old Testament had tried to understand the pathos of the human condition in the light of the history of the fall narrated in Genesis, they could not grasp this story's ultimate meaning, which is revealed only in the light of the death and Resurrection of Jesus Christ.261 We must know Christ as the source of grace in order to know Adam as the source of sin. The Spirit-Paraclete, sent by the risen Christ, came to "convict the world concerning sin",262 by revealing him who is its Redeemer.

389 The doctrine of original sin is, so to speak, the "reverse side" of the Good News that Jesus is the Savior of all men, that all need salvation and that salvation is offered to all through Christ. The Church, which has the mind of Christ,263 knows very well that we cannot tamper with the revelation of original sin without undermining the mystery of Christ.

How to read the account of the fall

390 The account of the fall in Genesis 3 uses figurative language, but affirms a primeval event, a deed that took place at the beginning of the history of man.264 Revelation gives us the certainty of faith that the whole of human history is marked by the original fault freely committed by our first parents.265

II. THE FALL OF THE ANGELS

391 Behind the disobedient choice of our first parents lurks a seductive voice, opposed to God, which makes them fall into death out of envy.266 Scripture and the Church's Tradition see in this being a fallen angel, called "Satan" or the "devil".267 The Church teaches that Satan was at first a good angel, made by God: "The devil and the other demons were indeed created naturally good by God, but they became evil by their own doing."268

392 Scripture speaks of a sin of these angels.269 This "fall" consists in the free choice of these created spirits, who radically and irrevocably rejected God and his reign. We find a reflection of that rebellion in the tempter's words to our first parents: "You will be like God."270 The devil "has sinned from the beginning"; he is "a liar and the father of lies".271

393 It is the irrevocable character of their choice, and not a defect in the infinite divine mercy, that makes the angels' sin unforgivable. "There is no repentance for the angels after their fall, just as there is no repentance for men after death."272

394 Scripture witnesses to the disastrous influence of the one Jesus calls "a murderer from the beginning", who would even try to divert Jesus from the mission received from his Father.273 "The reason the Son of God appeared was to destroy the works of the devil."274 In its consequences the gravest of these works was the mendacious seduction that led man to disobey God.

395 The power of Satan is, nonetheless, not infinite. He is only a creature, powerful from the fact that he is pure spirit, but still a creature. He cannot prevent the building up of God's reign. Although Satan may act in the world out of hatred for God and his kingdom in Christ Jesus, and although his action may cause grave injuries - of a spiritual nature and, indirectly, even of a physical nature- to each man and to society, the action is permitted by divine providence which with strength and gentleness guides human and cosmic history. It is a great mystery that providence should permit diabolical activity, but "we know that in everything God works for good with those who love him."275

 

[kjw47]

God loves all. He called Abraham-friend. All that know and love God know he is correct 100% of the time. And humans usually reason like this-Jeremiah 17:9--The heart is desperate and treacherous, who can know it?
Gods kingdom will be a cure all. Its worth living now for entrance into that than for this world.

Jesus hates the Jews, called them children of Satan, and invented the biblical concept Hell for God to corporately throw the Jews.

But, if you're too stupid to understand that Jesus coming with a shout of an archangel and the sound of a trumpet doesn't mean that Jesus is archangel or a trumpet, what chance do you have of understanding something that even most mainstream Christians refuse to grasp?

Mainstream christianty is a branch of the religion that came out of rome and screwed it all up--not one of them could ever fix it because the translations are erred to mislead. Translated to fit false council teachings such as a trinity god--it does not exist.

 

[kjw47]

God loves all. He called Abraham-friend. All that know and love God know he is correct 100% of the time. And humans usually reason like this-Jeremiah 17:9--The heart is desperate and treacherous, who can know it?
Gods kingdom will be a cure all. Its worth living now for entrance into that than for this world.

Jesus hates the Jews, called them children of Satan, and invented the biblical concept Hell for God to corporately throw the Jews.

But, if you're too stupid to understand that Jesus coming with a shout of an archangel and the sound of a trumpet doesn't mean that Jesus is archangel or a trumpet, what chance do you have of understanding something that even most mainstream Christians refuse to grasp?

You don't know what you are talking about. Or maybe you do and you are intentionally lying for subversive reasons.

I think it is the latter. What say you?

I say you're a dumbshit. Do you agree with Jesus that Jews are the children of the devil? Or, are you not a Christian (someone who agrees with Jesus)?

99% on earth are children of the devil. Or did you miss this mirror God gave to all to peer into? 1John 3--explains who the children of God are and who the children of the devil are.
Those in disagreement with someone and returns name calling is very immature.

 

[BulletProof]

99% on earth are children of the devil. Or did you miss this mirror God gave to all to peer into? 1John 3--explains who the children of God are and who the children of the devil are.
Those in disagreement with someone and returns name calling is very immature.

For once you say something right, the vast majority of people are children of the devil. However, Jesus singles out only Jews to explicitly identify as the children of the devil. And, other children of the devil contradict Jesus and say Jews are God's chosen people.

You have shit for brains. I'm afraid name calling is the only thing you understand.

Yes, also those who make a practice of sin are children of the devil. And, you do that when you blaspheme and spread lies that hurt God's people.

 

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However, Jesus singles out only Jews to explicitly identify as the children of the devil.

No, he doesn't. He was speaking to a specific person or persons when he said that. He made no reference to anyone else because he wasn't speaking to everyone. But if he had, he would have said the same thing. We are all sinners. We are all rebels.

We are all children of the devil so to speak.

Christ defeated sin. Christ defeated death. He didn't remove Satan from this world. We are still being tested. We are still being tempted.

You want to know who killed Christ? We all did.

 

[kjw47]

99% on earth are children of the devil. Or did you miss this mirror God gave to all to peer into? 1John 3--explains who the children of God are and who the children of the devil are.
Those in disagreement with someone and returns name calling is very immature.

For once you say something right, the vast majority of people are children of the devil. However, Jesus singles out only Jews to explicitly identify as the children of the devil. And, other children of the devil contradict Jesus and say Jews are God's chosen people.

You have shit for brains. I'm afraid name calling is the only thing you understand.

Yes, also those who make a practice of sin are children of the devil. And, you do that when you blaspheme and spread lies that hurt God's people.

God will show all of us.

 

[BulletProof]

No, he doesn't. He was speaking to a specific person or persons when he said that. He made no reference to anyone else because he wasn't speaking to everyone. But if he had, he would have said the same thing. We are all sinners. We are all rebels.

We are all children of the devil so to speak.

Christ defeated sin. Christ defeated death. He didn't remove Satan from this world. We are still being tested. We are still being tempted.

You want to know who killed Christ? We all did.

You're a liar with a skull full of shit. The Bible says the [Antichrist] Jews killed Jesus, the you want to protect the Antichrist and blame Christians for the murder of Jesus. You are one sick piece of shit.

1 Thessalonians 2:14-16
For ye, brethren, became followers of the churches of God which in Judaea are in Christ Jesus: for ye also have suffered like things of your own countrymen, even as they have of the Jews: Who both killed the Lord Jesus, and their own prophets, and have persecuted us; and thy please not God, and are contrary to all men

You're a liar with a skull full of shit. When Jesus said the Jews are the children of the devil, he didn't mean a specific person but all the Jews.

John 8:42-48
Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me. Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word. Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not. Which of you convinceth me of sin? And if I say the truth, why do ye not believe me? He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God. Then answered the Jews, and said unto him, Say we not well that thou art a Samaritan, and hast a devil?

 

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No, he doesn't. He was speaking to a specific person or persons when he said that. He made no reference to anyone else because he wasn't speaking to everyone. But if he had, he would have said the same thing. We are all sinners. We are all rebels.

We are all children of the devil so to speak.

Christ defeated sin. Christ defeated death. He didn't remove Satan from this world. We are still being tested. We are still being tempted.

You want to know who killed Christ? We all did.

You're a liar with a skull full of shit. The Bible says the [Antichrist] Jews killed Jesus, the you want to protect the Antichrist and blame Christians for the murder of Jesus. You are one sick piece of shit.

1 Thessalonians 2:14-16
For ye, brethren, became followers of the churches of God which in Judaea are in Christ Jesus: for ye also have suffered like things of your own countrymen, even as they have of the Jews: Who both killed the Lord Jesus, and their own prophets, and have persecuted us; and thy please not God, and are contrary to all men

You're a liar with a skull full of shit. When Jesus said the Jews are the children of the devil, he didn't mean a specific person but all the Jews.

John 8:42-48
Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me. Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word. Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not. Which of you convinceth me of sin? And if I say the truth, why do ye not believe me? He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God. Then answered the Jews, and said unto him, Say we not well that thou art a Samaritan, and hast a devil?

We killed Christ because of our sins.

If man had never sinned, then there would have been no need for a sacrifice, now would there?

Have you ever sinned? If so, you were part of that group that required the sacrifice, right?

 

[BulletProof]

We killed Christ because of our sins.

Shithead, the Bible doesn't assign blame to Christians for killing Christ. It blames the Jews, the Antichrist you serve. Nor is their logic in blaming Christians for what is freely given to Christians. You oppose the Bible in word and principle.

 

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We killed Christ because of our sins.

Shithead, the Bible doesn't assign blame to Christians for killing Christ. It blames the Jews, the Antichrist you serve. Nor is their logic in blaming Christians for what is freely given to Christians. You oppose the Bible in word and principle.

Shithead. Do you believe that Christ died for your sins?

Then you are responsible for his death, just like me.

Are all protestants as stupid as you?

 

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1 Corinthians 15:3
For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;

Isaiah 53:5
But He was pierced through for our transgressions, He was crushed for our iniquities; The chastening for our well-being fell upon Him, And by His scourging we are healed.

John 1:29
The next day John saw Jesus coming toward him and said, "Look, the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world!

Galatians 1:4
who gave Himself for our sins to rescue us from the present evil age, according to the will of our God and Father,

Matthew 26:28
For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many …

Romans 4:25
Who was delivered for our offenses, and was raised again for our justification.

2 Corinthians 5:21
For he has made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might …

Galatians 3:13
Christ has redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse …

Ephesians 1:7
In whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of …

1 Peter 2:24
Who his own self bore our sins in his own body on the tree, that …

1 Peter 3:18
For Christ also has once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, …

1 John 2:2
And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but …

 

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Apparently BulletProof doesn't understand that Christ died for all sins of man even his.

 

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This is what reformation got us.