Embryonic Stem Cells Hold Possible Cure For Diabetes

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    Diabetes-related deaths are at epidemic proportions, but the radical right would rather let people die than use some cells which are never going to be brought to term.

    http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/medicalnews.php?newsid=38545

    And now for the real science on the subject .....

    http://stemcells.nih.gov/info/scireport/chapter7.asp
     
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    Promises, promises, promises ....:blah2:

    Your factual evidence that embryonic stem cells hold a cure for diabetes? The same factual evidence that proves used motor oil holds a cure for diabetes.

    Nothing more than an appeal to emotionalism with no actual basis in fact. And if any opinion or belief is radical, it would be the one on display in your little attempt at emotional manipulation to force your wishful thinking on everyone else.
     
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    This is from a scientist who works in stem cell research.

    Adult Stem Cell Research Breakthrough Produces Insulin for Diabetics
    by Steven Ertelt, LifeNews.com Editor
    July 10, 2006

    Dublin, Ireland (LifeNews.com) -- A scientist in Ireland has made a major breakthrough in the field of adult stem cell research by producing insulin needed by diabetic patients from the stem cells from the umbilical cords of living babies. The result provides real hope for diabetics because the insulin from embryonic stem cells doesn't work as effectively and involves the destruction of human life.

    Colin McGuckin, professor of regenerative medicine at the University of Newcastle, will soon present the findings to Catholic church leaders at a presentation at the Augustinian Institute in Rome.

    “We have been able to produce insulin-secreting cells from cord blood, which is pretty much a first,” McGuckin told the London Times.

    McGuckin said that insulin produced from adult stem cells will be more effective for those with diabetes.

    “Although people have been able to do it from embryonic stem cells, they are not transplantable because they don't have a tissue match for the patient. Cord blood gives a big advantage,” he explained.

    McGuckin also told the Times that the process is so effective that embryonic stem cells are not needed altogether.

    “We are able to produce many different tissues from cord blood stem cells so we are really the first to rival embryonic stem cells,” he said.

    While scientists must destroy human life to obtain embryonic stem cells, McGuckin says they're in ready supply from a newborn's umbilical cord and its blood and able to be find in specific matches for patients.

    “Ultimately we will be able to achieve the same result from non-embryonic stem cells. Some 100 million children are born every year, that is an awful lot of stem cells if you want to find a tissue type that matches you," he said.

    Meanwhile, embryonic stem cell transplants also have problems with cancers and tumors afterwards, but McGuckin said that's not the case with adult stem cells from the umbilical cord.

    McGuckin also told the Times that a little bit of umbilical cord blood goes a long way. He indicated that storing the blood from just one baby born out of 5,000 would ensure enough adult stem cells for the entire population.

    http://www.lifenews.com/bio1604.html
     
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    Embryonic Stem Cells Hold Possible Cure For Diabetes

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    Here's some scientists who disagree with your post, Jillian. Adult stem cell research is not just a "promise" of results; it's producing results NOW. Be sure to read my earlier post about what the Irish scientists are doing with adult stem cells NOW.

    Adult Stem Cell Research May Hold Promise for Diabetes Cure
    by Maria Gallagher, LifeNews.com Staff Writer
    March 26, 2004

    Gainesvile, FL (LifeNews.com) -- New evidence suggests that adult stem cells may hold the key to unlocking the mystery behind diabetes. The latest findings add to the growing body of evidence suggesting that adult stem cell research is superior to embryonic stem cell research, which involves the killing of human embryos.

    Researchers at the University of Florida report that they've cultured adult bone marrow stem cells to become insulin-producing cells. The resulting cells managed to bring blood glucose levels back to normal in diabetic laboratory animals.

    Previous research has indicated that pancreatic stem cells and liver stem cells can also produce insulin. However, scientific experts say that marrow cells are easier to harvest.

    Researchers frequently introduce stem cells through microsurgery, but doctors hope to eventually attach therapeutic cells to parts of the body that are easy to reach, such as the back of the neck.

    The University of Florida study showed that stem cells stabilized the glucose levels of lab animals for more than three months. Still, scientists are not certain if humans would experience the same therapeutic results.

    According to the Florida researchers, the implanted stem cells produced insulin in the same amounts that healthy cells do.

    Researchers around the world have been reporting favorable results from adult stem cell research.

    To date, no cures have been reported from embryonic stem cells. Embryonic stem cell research is opposed by pro-life groups because it involves the destruction of innocent life.

    Bradley Mattes, Executive Director of Life Issues Institute, a pro-life organization based in Cincinnati, noted that embryonic stem cell research, or ESCR, has failed to show any promise in fighting diabetes. Yet, the Juvenile Diabetes Foundation has been a strong promoter of ESCR. Pretty odd, if you ask me, when significant results are already being produced by scientists/researchers using adult stem cells.

    The San Francisco Chronicle reported that Paul Billings, who has studied the impact of stem cells and even co-founded a stem cell bank, said hopes for major new medical treatments based on ESCR were "very remote."

    Billings added, "The problems are so complex that we're not likely to be able to tackle them with the stem cell gambit in the foreseeable future."

    ESCR in China has proven a disaster.

    Once fetal tissue was injected into a patient's brain, the patient developed a brain tumor and died. The fetal cells transformed into all types of human tissue within the brain, including hair, skin, and bone.

    An ESCR study at Columbia University's College of Physicians and Surgeons, published in the New England Journal of Medicine, was equally devastating.

    At the time, Dr. Paul E. Greene said patients who had been implanted with embryonic stem cells "chew constantly, their fingers go up and down, their wrists flex and distend. It's a real nightmare. And we can't selectively turn it off. No more fetal transplants."

    While Harvard Medical School is now touting fetal stem cell research, the school's own studies indicate adult stem cell research may eliminate the need for ESCR. A Harvard study showed that adult stem cells could be effective in combating not only diabetes, but more than 50 other ailments as well.

    Diane Irving, Ph.D., a former biochemist with the National Cancer Institute, said, "I have argued that adult stem cells are better because they are closer to the stage of differentiation than embryonic or fetal cells--therefore they do not have as long a distance to travel differentiation-wise as the younger cells. Therefore there is far less of a chance for genetic errors to be accumulated in the implanted cells and less side effects for the patient to deal with."

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    They are not "scientists". They are pretend scientists with an agenda that is not compatible with science, yet who muddy the waters for those silly enough to listen to them.
     
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    Which are you having problems with being, silly?

    Researchers at the University of Florida?

    To date, no cures have been reported from embryonic stem cells?

    Juvenile Diabetes Foundation?

    An ESCR study at Columbia University's College of Physicians and Surgeons?

    Harvard Medical School is now touting fetal stem cell research, the school's own studies indicate adult stem cell research may eliminate the need for ESCR. A Harvard study showed that adult stem cells could be effective in combating not only diabetes, but more than 50 other ailments as well.

    Diane Irving, Ph.D., a former biochemist with the National Cancer Institute, said, "I have argued that adult stem cells are better because they are closer to the stage of differentiation than embryonic or fetal cells--therefore they do not have as long a distance to travel differentiation-wise as the younger cells. Therefore there is far less of a chance for genetic errors to be accumulated in the implanted cells and less side effects for the patient to deal with."
     
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    I really can't believe you posted such BS.
     
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    Sorry. I just can't believe that anyone would deny people potential cures for illness based on their religious beliefs.

    There are no guarantees in scientific research. Penicilin, chemotherapy, polio vaccines were all discovered after painstaking research. And that research wasn't halted in its tracks by people who complained there are no guarantees.
     
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    You said in post#6 these people were not "scientists". Is that what you really meant? Or were you focusing on just one tiny bit of post #5?
     

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