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I think we'd have other stuff that would be as bad, like saber rattling at North Korea and Pakistan and other foreign policy stuff that would be ratcheting up aggression globally. We'd also have continued ignorance of the fact that there are problems in the economy. At least with Obama in office, having run on the economy, attention is on it and so something will be done with it.
Figure it this way, the recession started in 12/07 but Bush did squat to fix it except bail out the banks, and McCain thought it was dandy. I doubt they'd be giving it any attention - except maybe more tax breaks for the wealthy, which doesn't make sense to me.
I like cap and trade, personally, being a Cali-girl. Got to g et off fossil fuels, there's no way around it.
Obama's policies, to the extent he has any, with regard to Pakistan and NK are basically the policies Bush left in place. With respect to the economy, no one understood what was happening until the financial crisis struck with full force, not Geithner, who was president of the New York Federal Reserve Bank with oversight responsibilities over the Wall Street firms that crashed, not the Dems in Congress with oversight responsibilities, not Bernanke, who precipitated the crisis by raising interest rates as a precaution against inflation rather than in response to strong data suggesting inflation was a real danger, and certainly not our slogan meister in chief who has been consistently wrong in everything he has said about the economy and whose policies of reckless borrowing and spending have been cited by the Chinese and Germans as posing a threat to the entire global economy.
It may give you some comfort to imagine that this whole mess was just the result of a Republican blooper, but in fact no one in the administration, in Congress, in the Fed, in the financial community or in any of the other governments in the world was able to put together the very public facts about the financial system and foresee the crisis that was coming. That's why its effects were so widespread throughout the global economy and so deep within each of the developed economies. That's why Congress was dumbfounded when Paulson told them that while they were so busy politicking the economy had fallen into a financial crisis that could wipe out our financial system and wreck the real economy and why they issued a collective gasp when he demanded $700 billion from them to buy up the distressed assets that the markets would not longer touch - as it turned out, a small fraction of what would really have been needed. Everyone knew all the facts, but no one was able to come to the right conclusions.
Even if you believe we are in a continuing process of global warning entirely caused by greenhouse gases due to the use of fossil fuels, this cap and trade bill will have such a minor effect on the global output of these gases or even on the per capita output in the US that it will change nothing about global warming even in the most optimistic scenario, but it will raise the cost of electricity to households and to businesses, giving households less money to spend to help revive the economy and causing businesses to raise prices to account for higher overhead costs, making US businesses less competitive, thus costing US jobs, and raising the cost of living even further. This bill is all about politics and ideology and not at all about good outcomes for either the environment or the economy.
But on the factory floor of a steel mill in Oregon, the fellows were discussing whether the Depression would hit before or after the 2008 election in 2007. So all of the people that you state were ignorant of the actual state of the economy are either lying, or stupid. There were economists like Krugman that were predicting a major negative move in the economy well before it happened. Then there was a Republican President and Republican Presidential Candidate stating the soundness of the economy on the Sunday before Meltdown Monday.
Out on the factory floor, we well realize the worst is not yet here, and the only good news is that it is getting worse at a slower rate. Will President Obama's policies work? I don't know, but the policies of people that constantly refuse to recognize reality surely will not work.
I think we'd have other stuff that would be as bad, like saber rattling at North Korea and Pakistan and other foreign policy stuff that would be ratcheting up aggression globally. We'd also have continued ignorance of the fact that there are problems in the economy. At least with Obama in office, having run on the economy, attention is on it and so something will be done with it.
Figure it this way, the recession started in 12/07 but Bush did squat to fix it except bail out the banks, and McCain thought it was dandy. I doubt they'd be giving it any attention - except maybe more tax breaks for the wealthy, which doesn't make sense to me.
I like cap and trade, personally, being a Cali-girl. Got to g et off fossil fuels, there's no way around it.
Obama's policies, to the extent he has any, with regard to Pakistan and NK are basically the policies Bush left in place. With respect to the economy, no one understood what was happening until the financial crisis struck with full force, not Geithner, who was president of the New York Federal Reserve Bank with oversight responsibilities over the Wall Street firms that crashed, not the Dems in Congress with oversight responsibilities, not Bernanke, who precipitated the crisis by raising interest rates as a precaution against inflation rather than in response to strong data suggesting inflation was a real danger, and certainly not our slogan meister in chief who has been consistently wrong in everything he has said about the economy and whose policies of reckless borrowing and spending have been cited by the Chinese and Germans as posing a threat to the entire global economy.
It may give you some comfort to imagine that this whole mess was just the result of a Republican blooper, but in fact no one in the administration, in Congress, in the Fed, in the financial community or in any of the other governments in the world was able to put together the very public facts about the financial system and foresee the crisis that was coming. That's why its effects were so widespread throughout the global economy and so deep within each of the developed economies. That's why Congress was dumbfounded when Paulson told them that while they were so busy politicking the economy had fallen into a financial crisis that could wipe out our financial system and wreck the real economy and why they issued a collective gasp when he demanded $700 billion from them to buy up the distressed assets that the markets would not longer touch - as it turned out, a small fraction of what would really have been needed. Everyone knew all the facts, but no one was able to come to the right conclusions.
Even if you believe we are in a continuing process of global warning entirely caused by greenhouse gases due to the use of fossil fuels, this cap and trade bill will have such a minor effect on the global output of these gases or even on the per capita output in the US that it will change nothing about global warming even in the most optimistic scenario, but it will raise the cost of electricity to households and to businesses, giving households less money to spend to help revive the economy and causing businesses to raise prices to account for higher overhead costs, making US businesses less competitive, thus costing US jobs, and raising the cost of living even further. This bill is all about politics and ideology and not at all about good outcomes for either the environment or the economy.
But on the factory floor of a steel mill in Oregon, the fellows were discussing whether the Depression would hit before or after the 2008 election in 2007. So all of the people that you state were ignorant of the actual state of the economy are either lying, or stupid. There were economists like Krugman that were predicting a major negative move in the economy well before it happened. Then there was a Republican President and Republican Presidential Candidate stating the soundness of the economy on the Sunday before Meltdown Monday.
Out on the factory floor, we well realize the worst is not yet here, and the only good news is that it is getting worse at a slower rate. Will President Obama's policies work? I don't know, but the policies of people that constantly refuse to recognize reality surely will not work.
If "barry" is not a communist why did all the Weirdos rejoice when he was Placed into office by Affirmative Action manipulation of the Media and the groups such as the ACLU, and ACORN...the only way that a Jr. Senator...without any experience whatsoever could become the President of the United States. A false message was propagated urging everyone to be a part of history and help elect this unqualified individual simply because of the color of his skin. And clearly the propaganda worked....Comrade "barry" was PLACED into office by the power of the media...regardless of qualifications or the lack thereof. The Marxists, liberals, New Agers, Muslims, sodomites, illegal immigrants, and the rest of the DUMB DOWNED gullible children of indoctrination masses rejoiced in the streets....proclaiming the next MESSIAH had arrived.
Surprise.....now the Buyers Remorse begins. Does anyone really believe all this hype and communist promises will come to fulfillment? When any communist speaks of anything being "FREE" in this area or that.....they mean that WE THE PEOPLE pay for it...as there is nothing in this world FREE. The HUGE taxes...that were not going to come about..are already on the drawing board, from the hidden taxation on all American Households....an extra 3 grand a year for the cost of utilities...in the guise of KEEPING AMERICA green. Not to mention the huge burdensome TAXES that will have to be paid by EVERYONE to pay for the FREE HEALTH-CARE. He claims....as do ALL COMMUNISTS...to be ROBIN HOOD...taking from the RICH in order to give to the poor. But the truth is....THE POOR will always be among us, as poverty is beyond the control of anyone...especially the GOVERNMENT. Often times poverty is a choice (SOME JUST REFUSE TO WORK and are professional bums)....or happens by natural circumstances that cannot be controlled...accidents that disable people or natural disasters the take peoples equity away. Thus, no amount of STATE REDISTRIBUTION of wealth will ever eliminate poverty. This was proven in the 90s when Slick Willey passed the welfare reform bill the conservative congress legislated with the CONTRACT with AMERICA.....poverty actually went down a few percentiles....imagine that, when people are forced to work...poverty is inhibited. All this man's promises are nothing but pie in the sky promises....His ideology will only increase poverty, as proven by all the Marxist nations around the world.
In true communist style; Mr. Obama is very pro gun control, he favors repealing the Defense of Marriage Act and is pro-sodomy; he is very pro-abortion, as proven by his short legislative record in openly criticizing the Supreme Court for upholding the ban on partial birth abortion. He supports FREE universal health care, affirmative action, among many other CORE policies of the Social Communists of this nation. Make no mistake this man is of the Communist Mold....as he was tutored by one of the best....HIS teen mentor "FRANK MARSHALL DAVIS"....a black communist who had to flee Chicago after the FBI began investigating his communist activities....as indeed he was a card carrying member of the Communist party. His main theme...."Never trust the White Establishment".....and its now becoming very obvious that president "barry" is attempting to dismantle the establishment as quickly as he can.
ONLY IN AMERICA can people be so DUMB DOWNED.....and be happy about it. Ignorance, indeed is bless. ENJOY...at least until 2010. When the lid is left off the communist soup very long....its spoils, almost overnight...JUST ASK mr. peanut...who had a cup of COMMUNIST COFFEE in the 70s and brought us such great institutions as WORLD WIDE terrorism...double digit inflation, double digit unemployment, high interest rates....and gas lines around the corner. It has taken this nation 30 years to recover from the last true SOCIALIST regime in power...and its very obvious, we will be left in far worse shape this time....ALL BECAUSE DUMB DOWNED AMERICA needed a refresher course in COMMUNISM 101.....A CHANGE INDEED.....YOU VOTED FOR CHANGE, ENJOY.
Somehow, republicans winning by default smacks of how we got into this mess in the first place.
Pardon me if I'm not terribly excited.
For the 2012 GOP, Bobby Jindal, Gov of La. looks promissing.
Bill Clinton in 1988 was regarded in the same way (the "speech" thing). Then in '92, he was the nominee and "The Comeback Kid."For the 2012 GOP, Bobby Jindal, Gov of La. looks promissing.
Are you kidding? Did you not see his speech after Obama's a few months ago? That guy has zero credibility.
Who else do you have?
Boehner and Romney's approval numbers were even lower than Obama's.
Palin?
Jeb is your best shot.
For the 2012 GOP, Bobby Jindal, Gov of La. looks promissing.
Are you kidding? Did you not see his speech after Obama's a few months ago? That guy has zero credibility.
Who else do you have?
Boehner and Romney's approval numbers were even lower than Obama's.
Palin?
Jeb is your best shot.
