Effort To Kill The Iran Deal Dies In The Senate

[C_Clayton_Jones]

The stupidity of USMB conservatives subscribing to this thread is remarkable.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Iran promises there'll be no Israel in 25 years, it's on these Senators hands

If you close your eyes, you'd swear it was a Democrat Senator, or maybe g5000 talking

 

[Campbell]

Yes, libs and dems. Obozo won this round and the civilized world lost. But we understand, politics is more important to you assholes than human lives. We understand your mental illness.

I'll hand you one thing....you've got a massive set of balls. After George W. Bush and the Republican party worked for years to promote the idea of invading Iraq who had no WMD's and had done nothing to harm us we lost 4500 young American lives and got 35,000 others seriously wounded but you pricks don't worry. The poor are the ones who end up in the military while Mama's boy attends an ivy league college with a price tag of about $75,000 to $100,000 a year. If the Republicans get their way we will end up with a Lord/Serf society instead of the old America when we actually had a middle class which could afford to send it's offspring to college.

total unadulterated bullshit. The entire world believed that Saddam had WMDs. He gassed his own people. He said that he had them and would use them. Bush did not make it up. The UN believed it, so did the EU, UK, Saudi Arabia, Israel, the entire world.

We agree that Iraq was a terrible waste of american lives and money. But to claim that Bush made it all up because he loved war is just ignoring history.

Your so-called lord/serf society is the result of 70 years of dem control of congress and libtardian policies that create and maintain a dependent class. Your ideology has created the problem that you bitch about.

Horse Shit!!!
The entire Republican party had been looking for a reason to invade Iraq ever since Saddam Hussein tried to assassinate HW Bush in 1993 in Qatar. It's not rocket science.

Donald Rumsfeld called his staff and told them to write up a plan for the invasion of Iraq within 30 minutes after the plane flew into the Pentagon on 9/11.

Here is a letter sent to Bill Clinton in 1998 trying their best to get him to invade Iraq:


December 18, 1998

The Honorable William J. Clinton
President of the United States
Washington, DC

Dear Mr. President
We are writing you because we are convinced that current American policy toward Iraq is not succeeding, and that we may soon face a threat in the Middle East more serious than any we have known since the end of the Cold War. In your upcoming State of the Union Address, you have an opportunity to chart a clear and determined course
for meeting this threat. We urge you to seize that opportunity, and to enunciate a new strategy that would secure the interests of the U.S. and our friends and allies around the world. That strategy should aim, above all, at the removal of Saddam Hussein's regime from power. We stand ready to offer our full support in this difficult but necessary endeavor. The policy of containment
of Saddam Hussein has been steadily eroding over the past several months. As recent events havedemonstrated, we can no longer depend on our partners in the Gulf War coalition to continue to
uphold the sanctions or to punish Saddam when he blocks or evades UN inspections. Our ability to ensure that Saddam Hussein is not producing weapons of mass destruction, therefore, has substantially
diminished. Even if full inspections were eventually to resume, which now seems highly unlikely,experience has shown that it is difficult if not impossible to monitor Iraq's chemical and biological weapons production. The lengthy period during which the inspectors will have been unable to enter many Iraqi facilities has made it even less likely that they will be able to uncover all of Saddam's secrets.
As a result, in the not-too-distant future we will be unable to determine with any reasonable level of confidence whether Iraq does or does not possess such weapons. Such uncertainty will, by itself, have a
seriously destabilizing effect on the entire Middle East. It hardly needs to be added that if Saddam does acquire the capability to deliver weapons of mass destruction, as he is almost certain to do if we
continue along the present course, the safety of American troops in the region, of our friends and allies like Israel and the moderate Arab states, and a significant portion of the world's supply of oil
will all be put at hazard. As you have rightly declared, Mr. President, the security of the world in the first part of the 21st century will be determined largely by how we handle this threat. Given the
magnitude of the threat, the current policy, which depends for its success upon the steadfastness of our coalition partners and upon the cooperation of Saddam Hussein, is dangerously inadequate.
The only acceptable strategy is one that eliminates the possibility that Iraq will be able to use or threaten to use weapons of mass destruction. In the near term, this means a willingness to undertake
military action as diplomacy is clearly failing. In the long term, it means removing Saddam Hussein and his regime from power. That now needs to become the aim of American foreign policy.
We urge you to articulate this aim, and to turn your Administration's attention to implementing a strategy for removing Saddam's regime from power. This will require a full complement of diplomatic, political and military efforts.
Although we are fully aware of the dangers and difficulties in implementing this policy, we believe the dangers of failing to do so are far greater. We believe the U.S. has the authority under existing UN
resolutions to take the necessary steps, including military steps, to protect our vital interests in the Gulf. In any case, American policy cannot continue to be crippled by a misguided insistence on unanimity in the UN Security Council. We urge you to act decisively. If you act now to end the threat of weapons of mass destruction against the U.S. or its allies, you will be acting in the most fundamental national security
interests of the country. If we accept a course of weakness and drift, we put our interests and our future at risk.

Sincerely,

Elliott Abrams Richard L. Armitag William J. Bennett Jeffrey Bergner John Bolton Paula Dobriansky
Francis Fukuyama Robert Kagan Zalmay Khalilzad William Kristol Richard Perle Peter W.Rodman
Donald Rumsfeld William Schneider, Jr. Vin Weber Paul Wolfowitz R. James Woolsey Robert B. Zoellick

 

[g5000]

Iran promises there'll be no Israel in 25 years, it's on these Senators hands

If you close your eyes, you'd swear it was a Democrat Senator, or maybe g5000 talking

Hitler sounds like a Fox News commentator.

 

[The Rabbi]

Iran promises there'll be no Israel in 25 years, it's on these Senators hands

If you close your eyes, you'd swear it was a Democrat Senator, or maybe g5000 talking

Hitler sounds like a Fox News commentator.

You sound like a moron.

 

[g5000]

Iran promises there'll be no Israel in 25 years, it's on these Senators hands

If you close your eyes, you'd swear it was a Democrat Senator, or maybe g5000 talking

Hitler sounds like a Fox News commentator.

You sound like a moron.

Non-stop moaning about multiculturalism, blacks on food stamps, Mexicans, Muslims, and gays. Constant fearmongering.

Yep. Fox News has much in common with Hitler. In fact, they fit his description of a party propaganda outlet perfectly.

 

[IsaacNewton]

Iran promises there'll be no Israel in 25 years, it's on these Senators hands

If you close your eyes, you'd swear it was a Democrat Senator, or maybe g5000 talking

Hitler sounds like a Fox News commentator.

You sound like a moron.

Non-stop moaning about multiculturalism, blacks on food stamps, Mexicans, Muslims, and gays. Constant fearmongering.

Yep. Fox News has much in common with Hitler. In fact, they fit his description of a party propaganda outlet perfectly.

Honestly it Faux News should be called the Joseph Goebbels network. He would be giddy as a schoolgirl for such a propaganda outlet.

 

[The Rabbi]

Iran promises there'll be no Israel in 25 years, it's on these Senators hands

If you close your eyes, you'd swear it was a Democrat Senator, or maybe g5000 talking

Hitler sounds like a Fox News commentator.

You sound like a moron.

Non-stop moaning about multiculturalism, blacks on food stamps, Mexicans, Muslims, and gays. Constant fearmongering.

Yep. Fox News has much in common with Hitler. In fact, they fit his description of a party propaganda outlet perfectly.

The Nazis issued food stamps? Theyhad lots of blacks there? WOw, who knew.
Like I said, you sound like a moron.

To the topic: Democrats have managed to weasel out of any responsibility, even for a bill they themselves voted for. They have lost any legitimacy or moral standing they may have ever had.

 

[The Rabbi]

If you close your eyes, you'd swear it was a Democrat Senator, or maybe g5000 talking

Hitler sounds like a Fox News commentator.

You sound like a moron.

Non-stop moaning about multiculturalism, blacks on food stamps, Mexicans, Muslims, and gays. Constant fearmongering.

Yep. Fox News has much in common with Hitler. In fact, they fit his description of a party propaganda outlet perfectly.

Honestly it Faux News should be called the Joseph Goebbels network. He would be giddy as a schoolgirl for such a propaganda outlet.

You mean MSNBC, right?

 

[Auld Phart]

If you close your eyes, you'd swear it was a Democrat Senator, or maybe g5000 talking

Hitler sounds like a Fox News commentator.

You sound like a moron.

Non-stop moaning about multiculturalism, blacks on food stamps, Mexicans, Muslims, and gays. Constant fearmongering.

Yep. Fox News has much in common with Hitler. In fact, they fit his description of a party propaganda outlet perfectly.

Honestly it Faux News should be called the Joseph Goebbels network. He would be giddy as a schoolgirl for such a propaganda outlet.

Honestly it Faux News should be called the Joseph Goebbels network

He'd be happy with either Fox or MSNBC representing him.

Both toe the party line.

 

[candycorn]

Effort To Kill The Iran Deal Dies In The Senate

The two-month Republican-led effort to kill the Iranian nuclear accord in Congress failed Thursday, after 42 Democrats filibustered a procedural vote related to the nuclear deal.

“Today’s outcome was clear, decisive, and final,” said Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.). “There’s now no doubt that the United States Congress will allow this deal to go forward.”

The procedural measure, which required 60 votes to pass, would have allowed the Senate to then cast a separate vote against the nuclear deal and rescind the president’s ability to waive some sanctions against Iran. That second vote, known as a resolution of disapproval, would have required only a simple majority to pass -- meaning that it could have succeeded even with little support from Democrats.

The minority Democratic Party pushed for a 60-vote threshold on the resolution of disapproval so that the resolution would not be able to move forward without broad bipartisan support. When Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) rejected the request, the Democrats moved to block the vote from occurring.

So, that was that.

FYI.

Discuss. Was that that?

Oh well, another day at the office and another victory for Obama.

Didn't the GOP campaign on "stopping Obama"?

 

[IsaacNewton]

If you close your eyes, you'd swear it was a Democrat Senator, or maybe g5000 talking

Hitler sounds like a Fox News commentator.

You sound like a moron.

Non-stop moaning about multiculturalism, blacks on food stamps, Mexicans, Muslims, and gays. Constant fearmongering.

Yep. Fox News has much in common with Hitler. In fact, they fit his description of a party propaganda outlet perfectly.

Honestly it Faux News should be called the Joseph Goebbels network. He would be giddy as a schoolgirl for such a propaganda outlet.

Honestly it Faux News should be called the Joseph Goebbels network

He'd be happy with either Fox or MSNBC representing him.

Both toe the party line.

This is a conservative meme that is false. MSNBC leans progressive but they don't lie with every breath they breathe like Faux News. That is what propaganda is, lying and fooling people into thinking it truth.

That is Faux News. It isn't news.

 

[Auld Phart]

Hitler sounds like a Fox News commentator.

You sound like a moron.

Non-stop moaning about multiculturalism, blacks on food stamps, Mexicans, Muslims, and gays. Constant fearmongering.

Yep. Fox News has much in common with Hitler. In fact, they fit his description of a party propaganda outlet perfectly.

Honestly it Faux News should be called the Joseph Goebbels network. He would be giddy as a schoolgirl for such a propaganda outlet.

Honestly it Faux News should be called the Joseph Goebbels network

He'd be happy with either Fox or MSNBC representing him.

Both toe the party line.

This is a conservative meme that is false. MSNBC leans progressive but they don't lie with every breath they breathe like Faux News. That is what propaganda is, lying and fooling people into thinking it truth.

That is Faux News. It isn't news.

MSNBC leans progressive

Leans?

yes, it 'leans'....

at about a 45 degree angle.

and that's a conservative estimate.

 

[g5000]

You sound like a moron.

Non-stop moaning about multiculturalism, blacks on food stamps, Mexicans, Muslims, and gays. Constant fearmongering.

Yep. Fox News has much in common with Hitler. In fact, they fit his description of a party propaganda outlet perfectly.

Honestly it Faux News should be called the Joseph Goebbels network. He would be giddy as a schoolgirl for such a propaganda outlet.

Honestly it Faux News should be called the Joseph Goebbels network

He'd be happy with either Fox or MSNBC representing him.

Both toe the party line.

This is a conservative meme that is false. MSNBC leans progressive but they don't lie with every breath they breathe like Faux News. That is what propaganda is, lying and fooling people into thinking it truth.

That is Faux News. It isn't news.

MSNBC leans progressive

Leans?

yes, it 'leans'....

at about a 45 degree angle.

and that's a conservative estimate.

"a conservative estimate". No pun intended, right?

MSNBC is a left wing propaganda organ.

Fox News is a right wing propaganda organ.

Which one is always whining about multiculturalism? Which one is constantly attacking minorities? Fox News. Hitler would love them.

Stalin would love MSNBC.

 

[Auld Phart]

Non-stop moaning about multiculturalism, blacks on food stamps, Mexicans, Muslims, and gays. Constant fearmongering.

Yep. Fox News has much in common with Hitler. In fact, they fit his description of a party propaganda outlet perfectly.

Honestly it Faux News should be called the Joseph Goebbels network. He would be giddy as a schoolgirl for such a propaganda outlet.

Honestly it Faux News should be called the Joseph Goebbels network

He'd be happy with either Fox or MSNBC representing him.

Both toe the party line.

This is a conservative meme that is false. MSNBC leans progressive but they don't lie with every breath they breathe like Faux News. That is what propaganda is, lying and fooling people into thinking it truth.

That is Faux News. It isn't news.

MSNBC leans progressive

Leans?

yes, it 'leans'....

at about a 45 degree angle.

and that's a conservative estimate.

"a conservative estimate". No pun intended, right?

MSNBC is a left wing propaganda organ.

Fox News is a right wing propaganda organ.

Which one is always whining about multiculturalism? Which one is constantly attacking minorities? Fox News. Hitler would love them.

Stalin would love MSNBC.

No pun intended, right?

Nope.

But pretend otherwise if you like

MSNBC is a left wing propaganda organ

Correct

Fox News is a right wing propaganda organ.

Correct.

Look at a compass.

MSNBC sits at 90 degrees

Fox sits at 270 degrees.

 

[IsaacNewton]

Nah, that's that fake 'fair and unbalanced' bullshit Faux carps. Its a lie, which is what Faux is. The lie as a standard.

 

[David_42]

Nah, that's that fake 'fair and unbalanced' bullshit Faux carps. Its a lie, which is what Faux is. The lie as a standard.

Fox News is going to lose its main viewer base of older white people soon..

 

[Campbell]

If you close your eyes, you'd swear it was a Democrat Senator, or maybe g5000 talking

Hitler sounds like a Fox News commentator.

You sound like a moron.

Non-stop moaning about multiculturalism, blacks on food stamps, Mexicans, Muslims, and gays. Constant fearmongering.

Yep. Fox News has much in common with Hitler. In fact, they fit his description of a party propaganda outlet perfectly.

The Nazis issued food stamps? Theyhad lots of blacks there? WOw, who knew.
Like I said, you sound like a moron.

To the topic: Democrats have managed to weasel out of any responsibility, even for a bill they themselves voted for. They have lost any legitimacy or moral standing they may have ever had.

Go wave your god damned war banner and STFU

 

[The Rabbi]

Nah, that's that fake 'fair and unbalanced' bullshit Faux carps. Its a lie, which is what Faux is. The lie as a standard.

Fox News is going to lose its main viewer base of older white people soon..

Fox is beating the shit out of the other cable news orgs in viewers and profitability.
Cable News: Fact Sheet

 

[The Rabbi]

If you close your eyes, you'd swear it was a Democrat Senator, or maybe g5000 talking

Hitler sounds like a Fox News commentator.

You sound like a moron.

Non-stop moaning about multiculturalism, blacks on food stamps, Mexicans, Muslims, and gays. Constant fearmongering.

Yep. Fox News has much in common with Hitler. In fact, they fit his description of a party propaganda outlet perfectly.

The Nazis issued food stamps? Theyhad lots of blacks there? WOw, who knew.
Like I said, you sound like a moron.

To the topic: Democrats have managed to weasel out of any responsibility, even for a bill they themselves voted for. They have lost any legitimacy or moral standing they may have ever had.

Go wave your god damned war banner and STFU

Eat shit,asshole.
You cant refute a single thing I've written. You cant even try.