You've taken my intent and most of my posts in a completely wrong way. Why not just have a conversation without all the hostility? In just about every post, since the get-go, you have replied with anger, name calling and false accusations. I don't want to falsely accuse you of anything, so in reply to what you just said, let me ask you this. Since you're aware of the exploitation, torture, and cruel practices that take place, yet you just keep talking about how much you want steak, is it safe to say that your position is "I don't give a crap how the animals are treated" ....or how animal agriculture is horrible for the environment (click), or anything else, like the health aspect, etc.? In other words, you just don't care about any of that, because you want your steak and bacon? When speaking to a Christian, it is perfectly OK to bring up the biblical perspective in regard to our original design. You made a claim about how we were designed (the very word design implies a Creator). So you're being unreasonable by claiming that I was wrong to bring that up that up. It would have been wrong if I was speaking to an atheist, but I thought you were a believer. That is not to say that all believers agree, but just to say it is acceptable to bring up the biblical perspective when speaking to a Christian. Listen to yourself. There's nothing wrong with asking the question did you watch it? It was a sincere question, I honestly didn't know if you had watched it or not. Again, your anger and extreme defensiveness is unnecessary, but telling, I think.