Donald Trump Says U.S. Will Recognize Jerusalem as Israel’s Capital

[Faun]

Donald Trumptold Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu that as president he would recognize Jerusalem as the capital of Israel, his campaign said on Sunday.

The statement, which was made during a meeting that lasted over an hour at Trump Tower in New York, would mark a shift in American foreign policy as the U.S.— as well as almost every other country in the world— does not recognize Jerusalem as Israel’s capital and maintains its embassy in Tel Aviv. The international community does not accept Jerusalem as Israel’s capital because its status has not been resolved since Israel established itself in West Jerusalem in 1948 and then effectively annexed East Jerusalem after the 1967 Six Day War.

Trump told the leader that under his administration the U.S. will “recognize Jerusalem as the undivided capital of the State of Israel,” the campaign statement read, repeating his promise to move the U.S. embassy to Tel Aviv.

Hillary Clinton also met Netanyahu for less than an hour in Manhattan,CBS reports. Reporters were barred from covering either event.

Donald Trump Says U.S. Will Recognize Jerusalem as Israel's Capital

Finally we may have a US president who is bold enough to take a fresh look at this conflict and smart enough to realize that US hedging on this issue only prolongs the conflict.

He's kissing up for votes, so what?

Regardless of why you think he is doing it, he will recognize Jerusalem as the capital of Israel and move the US embassy there in compliance with the Jerusalem Embassy Act. Refusing to recognize unchangeable facts makes progress impossible. This is an essential step if there is ever to be a negotiated end to the conflict.

He does not have that authority. He can recognize all he wants, but that does not make it so.

He does have the authority to recognize Jerusalem as the capital of Israel and he does have the authority to move the US Embassy to Jerusalem. Jerusalem is already the capital of Israel, he will merely bring US policy in alignment with reality.

If Jerusalem is the capital of Israel, why does Israel allow foreign governments to establish their respective embassies in Tel Aviv?

 

[toomuchtime_]

lol They have a pill for people who hallucinate $'s.
Actually, it could be the beginning of the end of the conflict. The undivided city of Jerusalem is, in fact, the capital of Israel, regardless of what anyone thinks about it, and no one is going to do anything to change that fact, so refusing to recognize facts that cannot be changed, only prolongs the conflict.

It was never the capital of Israel, one a few periods in history it was the capital of Judea.

It is the capital of Israel today and that is not going to change, so by refusing to recognize this unchangeable fact, the US is putting a roadblock in the path to progress.

No Tel Aviv. Jerusalem is to be neutral.

Jerusalem is, in fact, the capital of Israel regardless of how you may feel about it.

Suuurre, kind of like the Taliban was the government of Afghanistan.

Jerusalem clearly is the capital of Israel and Obama and many other world leaders implicitly recognized that fact when they traveled to Jerusalem for Peres' funeral and burial there. While official US policy has been not to recognize Jerusalem as the capital of Israel, clearly everyone in the the US government knows it is.

The White House was forced to correct itself Friday after sending out a transcript that listed Jerusalem as part of Israel, contradicting official U.S. policy.

The mix-up came in a transcript of President Barack Obama's eulogy at the funeral for former Israeli President Shimon Peres. The funeral took place at Mount Herzl, Israel's national cemetery, in Jerusalem.

The White House press office transcript of the remarks initially listed the location as “Jerusalem, Israel.” But Friday evening the White House corrected itself listing simply “Jerusalem” and crossing out “Israel” on the location.

White House Corrects Itself After Transcript Puts Jerusalem In Israel

 

[Faun]

It was never the capital of Israel, one a few periods in history it was the capital of Judea.

It is the capital of Israel today and that is not going to change, so by refusing to recognize this unchangeable fact, the US is putting a roadblock in the path to progress.

No Tel Aviv. Jerusalem is to be neutral.

Jerusalem is, in fact, the capital of Israel regardless of how you may feel about it.

Suuurre, kind of like the Taliban was the government of Afghanistan.

Jerusalem clearly is the capital of Israel and Obama and many other world leaders implicitly recognized that fact when they traveled to Jerusalem for Peres' funeral and burial there. While official US policy has been not to recognize Jerusalem as the capital of Israel, clearly everyone in the the US government knows it is.

The White House was forced to correct itself Friday after sending out a transcript that listed Jerusalem as part of Israel, contradicting official U.S. policy.

The mix-up came in a transcript of President Barack Obama's eulogy at the funeral for former Israeli President Shimon Peres. The funeral took place at Mount Herzl, Israel's national cemetery, in Jerusalem.

The White House press office transcript of the remarks initially listed the location as “Jerusalem, Israel.” But Friday evening the White House corrected itself listing simply “Jerusalem” and crossing out “Israel” on the location.

White House Corrects Itself After Transcript Puts Jerusalem In Israel

Ummm... just a guess here ... but ... Obama and other world leaders went to Jerusalem, not because it's the capital of Israel, but because that is where Peres' funeral was held.

 

[toomuchtime_]

Donald Trumptold Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu that as president he would recognize Jerusalem as the capital of Israel, his campaign said on Sunday.

The statement, which was made during a meeting that lasted over an hour at Trump Tower in New York, would mark a shift in American foreign policy as the U.S.— as well as almost every other country in the world— does not recognize Jerusalem as Israel’s capital and maintains its embassy in Tel Aviv. The international community does not accept Jerusalem as Israel’s capital because its status has not been resolved since Israel established itself in West Jerusalem in 1948 and then effectively annexed East Jerusalem after the 1967 Six Day War.

Trump told the leader that under his administration the U.S. will “recognize Jerusalem as the undivided capital of the State of Israel,” the campaign statement read, repeating his promise to move the U.S. embassy to Tel Aviv.

Hillary Clinton also met Netanyahu for less than an hour in Manhattan,CBS reports. Reporters were barred from covering either event.

Donald Trump Says U.S. Will Recognize Jerusalem as Israel's Capital

Finally we may have a US president who is bold enough to take a fresh look at this conflict and smart enough to realize that US hedging on this issue only prolongs the conflict.

He's kissing up for votes, so what?

Regardless of why you think he is doing it, he will recognize Jerusalem as the capital of Israel and move the US embassy there in compliance with the Jerusalem Embassy Act. Refusing to recognize unchangeable facts makes progress impossible. This is an essential step if there is ever to be a negotiated end to the conflict.

Surely you are smart enough to recognize that making decisions unilaterally does not encourage an end to conflict? It's actually the antithesis to negotiations and only serves to foment further conflict. Which is precisely why neither the U.S. nor 99% of the rest of the entire planet has recognized Jerusalem as the capital of Israel. Any real negotiations intended to earnestly end the conflict requires that discussion be included.

The sad reality is Trump is merely fishing for votes because he's trailing Hillary; but this unbelievably politically naive move of his confirms his opponents' concerns that he is not fit to be president. He's a businessman and a brand name and damn good at that -- but he's not a politician and doesn't know Jack shit about diplomacy.

First off, it's silly to talk about and final status negotiations until the Palestinians form a government that can credibly offer peace to Israel, and that is not going to happen in the near future, but even if it were, Jerusalem is simply not negotiable, so refusing to recognize that fact leaves nothing but the status quo. Even worse, when Obama and others encourage the Palestinians to insist on things that are not possible, it produces more violence and that prevents changes that would make day to day life for the Palestinians better.

It's not for you to decide what is or is not negotiable. That's for the parties directly involved to decide. If either side makes unilateral decisions which obliterate the possibility of earnest negotiations, there will be no negotiations and the status quo you speak of will persist indefinitely. If the two sides don't resolve their disagreements in a fair, equitable, and peaceful manner, it will ultimately end with the destruction of both.

In every negotiation some things are non negotiable. Jerusalem is one of these things. Of course, it's silly to talk about final status negotiations until the Palestinians have a government that can credibly offer peace to Israel and that is not going to happen in the near future.

 

[Faun]

He's kissing up for votes, so what?

Regardless of why you think he is doing it, he will recognize Jerusalem as the capital of Israel and move the US embassy there in compliance with the Jerusalem Embassy Act. Refusing to recognize unchangeable facts makes progress impossible. This is an essential step if there is ever to be a negotiated end to the conflict.

Surely you are smart enough to recognize that making decisions unilaterally does not encourage an end to conflict? It's actually the antithesis to negotiations and only serves to foment further conflict. Which is precisely why neither the U.S. nor 99% of the rest of the entire planet has recognized Jerusalem as the capital of Israel. Any real negotiations intended to earnestly end the conflict requires that discussion be included.

The sad reality is Trump is merely fishing for votes because he's trailing Hillary; but this unbelievably politically naive move of his confirms his opponents' concerns that he is not fit to be president. He's a businessman and a brand name and damn good at that -- but he's not a politician and doesn't know Jack shit about diplomacy.

First off, it's silly to talk about and final status negotiations until the Palestinians form a government that can credibly offer peace to Israel, and that is not going to happen in the near future, but even if it were, Jerusalem is simply not negotiable, so refusing to recognize that fact leaves nothing but the status quo. Even worse, when Obama and others encourage the Palestinians to insist on things that are not possible, it produces more violence and that prevents changes that would make day to day life for the Palestinians better.

It's not for you to decide what is or is not negotiable. That's for the parties directly involved to decide. If either side makes unilateral decisions which obliterate the possibility of earnest negotiations, there will be no negotiations and the status quo you speak of will persist indefinitely. If the two sides don't resolve their disagreements in a fair, equitable, and peaceful manner, it will ultimately end with the destruction of both.

In every negotiation some things are non negotiable. Jerusalem is one of these things. Of course, it's silly to talk about final status negotiations until the Palestinians have a government that can credibly offer peace to Israel and that is not going to happen in the near future.

Again... and I can't emphasis this enough ... that's for the parties involved to decide, not you. Even items that are "non-negotiable" have to be accepted as such by all parties directly involved.

 

[toomuchtime_]

Donald Trumptold Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu that as president he would recognize Jerusalem as the capital of Israel, his campaign said on Sunday.

The statement, which was made during a meeting that lasted over an hour at Trump Tower in New York, would mark a shift in American foreign policy as the U.S.— as well as almost every other country in the world— does not recognize Jerusalem as Israel’s capital and maintains its embassy in Tel Aviv. The international community does not accept Jerusalem as Israel’s capital because its status has not been resolved since Israel established itself in West Jerusalem in 1948 and then effectively annexed East Jerusalem after the 1967 Six Day War.

Trump told the leader that under his administration the U.S. will “recognize Jerusalem as the undivided capital of the State of Israel,” the campaign statement read, repeating his promise to move the U.S. embassy to Tel Aviv.

Hillary Clinton also met Netanyahu for less than an hour in Manhattan,CBS reports. Reporters were barred from covering either event.

Donald Trump Says U.S. Will Recognize Jerusalem as Israel's Capital

Finally we may have a US president who is bold enough to take a fresh look at this conflict and smart enough to realize that US hedging on this issue only prolongs the conflict.

He's kissing up for votes, so what?

Regardless of why you think he is doing it, he will recognize Jerusalem as the capital of Israel and move the US embassy there in compliance with the Jerusalem Embassy Act. Refusing to recognize unchangeable facts makes progress impossible. This is an essential step if there is ever to be a negotiated end to the conflict.

He does not have that authority. He can recognize all he wants, but that does not make it so.

He does have the authority to recognize Jerusalem as the capital of Israel and he does have the authority to move the US Embassy to Jerusalem. Jerusalem is already the capital of Israel, he will merely bring US policy in alignment with reality.

If Jerusalem is the capital of Israel, why does Israel allow foreign governments to establish their respective embassies in Tel Aviv?

Clearly it is the capital of Israel; that's where the Israeli government is located and that's where foreign diplomats go when they have business with the Israeli government. That's where world leaders went without protest for Shimon Peres' funeral.

 

[Phoenall]

To justify Israeli brutality by blaming the Palestinian victims is obscene.

So I'm confused. Are you denying that Gaza attacks Israel. Or are you saying that Gaza does attack Israel but should be permitted to do without consequences.

The people of Gaza have a right to resist the Israeli blockade and military crimes, of course.

This does not include firing illegal weapons at Israeli civilians and targetting children. And we have yet to see any mention officially of any crimes done by Israel. What you deem to be a crime is actually covered by International laws and the Geneva conventions and are well within the parameters laid down. You confuse the war crimes of hamas with the legal responses of Israel to those war crimes, violence and terrorism

The reason you have not seen Israelis being convicted by the International Criminal Court (ICC) is because Palestine was not a member state of the ICC until April of last year.

During a ceremony in April 2015, the ICC's Second Vice-President, Judge Kuniko Ozaki, presented the Minister of Foreign Affairs of Palestine, Dr. Riad Al-Malki, with a special edition of the Rome Statute, as a symbol of their joint commitment to the rule of law.

By virtue of Palestine's membership, the ICC now has jurisdiction over serious crimes in violation of international law, including war crimes and crimes against humanity committed on or from Palestinian territory. Various countries have criticized Israel over the years, For example, the European Union has recently condemned Israel’s continued settlement activity as illegal under international law. Findings of the ICC will be added to these in due course.

Then how was it that the islamonazi nations in the UN have failed to get the ICC to press any charges even after forcing through 200 or more resolutions regarding alleged crimes. How is it that the P.A joined the ICC in 2014 and immediately pressed charges against Israel for allegeded war crimes and were told after a long and costly investigation that they were not able to bring any charges against Israel, but had found irrefutable evidence of war crimes by palestine that they were now investigating for possible trials of the leaders. This led to abu mazen in withdrawing the complaint very quickly.

The facts seem to elude you as you seem to think that because filastin is or was not a member of the ICC it could not charge Israel with war crimes. As for the settlements International law actually deems them to be legal and the EU will be withdrawing its claims in due course.

The findings of the ICC were published last year if you bother to look for them, because they went for Israel they have been buried by islamonazi cyber propagandists to hide the truth.

 

[toomuchtime_]

It is the capital of Israel today and that is not going to change, so by refusing to recognize this unchangeable fact, the US is putting a roadblock in the path to progress.

No Tel Aviv. Jerusalem is to be neutral.

Jerusalem is, in fact, the capital of Israel regardless of how you may feel about it.

Suuurre, kind of like the Taliban was the government of Afghanistan.

Jerusalem clearly is the capital of Israel and Obama and many other world leaders implicitly recognized that fact when they traveled to Jerusalem for Peres' funeral and burial there. While official US policy has been not to recognize Jerusalem as the capital of Israel, clearly everyone in the the US government knows it is.

The White House was forced to correct itself Friday after sending out a transcript that listed Jerusalem as part of Israel, contradicting official U.S. policy.

The mix-up came in a transcript of President Barack Obama's eulogy at the funeral for former Israeli President Shimon Peres. The funeral took place at Mount Herzl, Israel's national cemetery, in Jerusalem.

The White House press office transcript of the remarks initially listed the location as “Jerusalem, Israel.” But Friday evening the White House corrected itself listing simply “Jerusalem” and crossing out “Israel” on the location.

White House Corrects Itself After Transcript Puts Jerusalem In Israel

Ummm... just a guess here ... but ... Obama and other world leaders went to Jerusalem, not because it's the capital of Israel, but because that is where Peres' funeral was held.

It was held there because Peres was buried on Mount Herzl, an Israeli national cemetery. In fact, the WH designated the location of the funeral as Jerusalem, Israel when it published the transcript of Obama's speech, indicating that everyone in the government understands Jerusalem is the capital of Israel regardless official policy. Every six months the president implicitly recognizes Jerusalem as the capital of Israel when he states, in compliance with the Jerusalem Embassy Act, that the embassy cannot be moved there yet for national security reasons.

 

[toomuchtime_]

Regardless of why you think he is doing it, he will recognize Jerusalem as the capital of Israel and move the US embassy there in compliance with the Jerusalem Embassy Act. Refusing to recognize unchangeable facts makes progress impossible. This is an essential step if there is ever to be a negotiated end to the conflict.

Surely you are smart enough to recognize that making decisions unilaterally does not encourage an end to conflict? It's actually the antithesis to negotiations and only serves to foment further conflict. Which is precisely why neither the U.S. nor 99% of the rest of the entire planet has recognized Jerusalem as the capital of Israel. Any real negotiations intended to earnestly end the conflict requires that discussion be included.

The sad reality is Trump is merely fishing for votes because he's trailing Hillary; but this unbelievably politically naive move of his confirms his opponents' concerns that he is not fit to be president. He's a businessman and a brand name and damn good at that -- but he's not a politician and doesn't know Jack shit about diplomacy.

First off, it's silly to talk about and final status negotiations until the Palestinians form a government that can credibly offer peace to Israel, and that is not going to happen in the near future, but even if it were, Jerusalem is simply not negotiable, so refusing to recognize that fact leaves nothing but the status quo. Even worse, when Obama and others encourage the Palestinians to insist on things that are not possible, it produces more violence and that prevents changes that would make day to day life for the Palestinians better.

It's not for you to decide what is or is not negotiable. That's for the parties directly involved to decide. If either side makes unilateral decisions which obliterate the possibility of earnest negotiations, there will be no negotiations and the status quo you speak of will persist indefinitely. If the two sides don't resolve their disagreements in a fair, equitable, and peaceful manner, it will ultimately end with the destruction of both.

In every negotiation some things are non negotiable. Jerusalem is one of these things. Of course, it's silly to talk about final status negotiations until the Palestinians have a government that can credibly offer peace to Israel and that is not going to happen in the near future.

Again... and I can't emphasis this enough ... that's for the parties involved to decide, not you. Even items that are "non-negotiable" have to be accepted as such by all parties directly involved.

First off, Israel has decided Jerusalem is its capital, not me. Non negotiable items are designated as such by one side or the other, not by an agreement between the two sides.

 

[Phoenall]

I read that and all I see is $$$$

They have a pill for that.

They have a pill for welfare leeches?

lol They have a pill for people who hallucinate $'s.

So Trump will move the US embassy to Jerusalem. Not the end of the world I guess.

Actually, it could be the beginning of the end of the conflict. The undivided city of Jerusalem is, in fact, the capital of Israel, regardless of what anyone thinks about it, and no one is going to do anything to change that fact, so refusing to recognize facts that cannot be changed, only prolongs the conflict.

It was never the capital of Israel, one a few periods in history it was the capital of Judea.

So says the muslimah who is re-writting history so that Jews never existed

 

[Phoenall]

Donald Trumptold Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu that as president he would recognize Jerusalem as the capital of Israel, his campaign said on Sunday.

The statement, which was made during a meeting that lasted over an hour at Trump Tower in New York, would mark a shift in American foreign policy as the U.S.— as well as almost every other country in the world— does not recognize Jerusalem as Israel’s capital and maintains its embassy in Tel Aviv. The international community does not accept Jerusalem as Israel’s capital because its status has not been resolved since Israel established itself in West Jerusalem in 1948 and then effectively annexed East Jerusalem after the 1967 Six Day War.

Trump told the leader that under his administration the U.S. will “recognize Jerusalem as the undivided capital of the State of Israel,” the campaign statement read, repeating his promise to move the U.S. embassy to Tel Aviv.

Hillary Clinton also met Netanyahu for less than an hour in Manhattan,CBS reports. Reporters were barred from covering either event.

Donald Trump Says U.S. Will Recognize Jerusalem as Israel's Capital

Finally we may have a US president who is bold enough to take a fresh look at this conflict and smart enough to realize that US hedging on this issue only prolongs the conflict.

He's kissing up for votes, so what?

Regardless of why you think he is doing it, he will recognize Jerusalem as the capital of Israel and move the US embassy there in compliance with the Jerusalem Embassy Act. Refusing to recognize unchangeable facts makes progress impossible. This is an essential step if there is ever to be a negotiated end to the conflict.

He does not have that authority. He can recognize all he wants, but that does not make it so.

It does if he is elected and makes it his first official task

 

[Phoenall]

Palestinian babies, toddlers and schoolchildren, their mothers and civilian fathers did nothing to any Israeli and do not deserve to be slaughtered. Show a measure of human empathy.

I have a great deal of empathy for the people of Gaza. But we what we are discussing is who is responsible for their suffering.

You say that Gazans have the "right" to armed resistance. If the Gazans have that right then the Israelis have the right to defend their citizens. In fact, I would say they are obligated to.

If the Gazan people stopped trying to attack Israel not one single more person would die in Gaza.

So why don't they stop attacking and have peace and prosperity?

Lets see because the Zionist are stealing their land and keep them caged up, might be a reason.

Have you heard that the muslims have decided that International laws no longer stand and America is now west Syria


IT WAS NEVER THEIR LAND AT ANY TIME IN RECORDED HISTORY

 

[Phoenall]

Donald Trumptold Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu that as president he would recognize Jerusalem as the capital of Israel, his campaign said on Sunday.

The statement, which was made during a meeting that lasted over an hour at Trump Tower in New York, would mark a shift in American foreign policy as the U.S.— as well as almost every other country in the world— does not recognize Jerusalem as Israel’s capital and maintains its embassy in Tel Aviv. The international community does not accept Jerusalem as Israel’s capital because its status has not been resolved since Israel established itself in West Jerusalem in 1948 and then effectively annexed East Jerusalem after the 1967 Six Day War.

Trump told the leader that under his administration the U.S. will “recognize Jerusalem as the undivided capital of the State of Israel,” the campaign statement read, repeating his promise to move the U.S. embassy to Tel Aviv.

Hillary Clinton also met Netanyahu for less than an hour in Manhattan,CBS reports. Reporters were barred from covering either event.

Donald Trump Says U.S. Will Recognize Jerusalem as Israel's Capital

Finally we may have a US president who is bold enough to take a fresh look at this conflict and smart enough to realize that US hedging on this issue only prolongs the conflict.

He's kissing up for votes, so what?

Regardless of why you think he is doing it, he will recognize Jerusalem as the capital of Israel and move the US embassy there in compliance with the Jerusalem Embassy Act. Refusing to recognize unchangeable facts makes progress impossible. This is an essential step if there is ever to be a negotiated end to the conflict.

He does not have that authority. He can recognize all he wants, but that does not make it so.

Not true. As president, he would have that authority. Bear in mind, it still wouldn't establish Jerusalem as Israel's capital and my guess is few other countries, if any, would follow suit; but the president's State Department can decide where it places U.S. embassies.

He can move the embassy but it does not mean the capital of Israel is Jerusalem. No one will recognize it and fully expect it to be attacked.

Which would be an act of war against America that he would have to respond to. This would put the UN in a sticky situation on whether to allow America to take action or not, and would it lead to the demise of the palestinians if they did respond ?

Your post also shows that you are very un-American and would be the first to side with the islamonazi's in their attacks on America

 

[Faun]

He's kissing up for votes, so what?

Regardless of why you think he is doing it, he will recognize Jerusalem as the capital of Israel and move the US embassy there in compliance with the Jerusalem Embassy Act. Refusing to recognize unchangeable facts makes progress impossible. This is an essential step if there is ever to be a negotiated end to the conflict.

He does not have that authority. He can recognize all he wants, but that does not make it so.

He does have the authority to recognize Jerusalem as the capital of Israel and he does have the authority to move the US Embassy to Jerusalem. Jerusalem is already the capital of Israel, he will merely bring US policy in alignment with reality.

If Jerusalem is the capital of Israel, why does Israel allow foreign governments to establish their respective embassies in Tel Aviv?

Clearly it is the capital of Israel; that's where the Israeli government is located and that's where foreign diplomats go when they have business with the Israeli government. That's where world leaders went without protest for Shimon Peres' funeral.

More nonsense. World leaders went to Peres' funeral to pay respects to Peres, not because anyone considers Jerusalem the capital of Israel. Had Peres been buried in Alaska, that's where world leaders would have traveled.

 

[Penelope]

Surely you are smart enough to recognize that making decisions unilaterally does not encourage an end to conflict? It's actually the antithesis to negotiations and only serves to foment further conflict. Which is precisely why neither the U.S. nor 99% of the rest of the entire planet has recognized Jerusalem as the capital of Israel. Any real negotiations intended to earnestly end the conflict requires that discussion be included.

The sad reality is Trump is merely fishing for votes because he's trailing Hillary; but this unbelievably politically naive move of his confirms his opponents' concerns that he is not fit to be president. He's a businessman and a brand name and damn good at that -- but he's not a politician and doesn't know Jack shit about diplomacy.

First off, it's silly to talk about and final status negotiations until the Palestinians form a government that can credibly offer peace to Israel, and that is not going to happen in the near future, but even if it were, Jerusalem is simply not negotiable, so refusing to recognize that fact leaves nothing but the status quo. Even worse, when Obama and others encourage the Palestinians to insist on things that are not possible, it produces more violence and that prevents changes that would make day to day life for the Palestinians better.

It's not for you to decide what is or is not negotiable. That's for the parties directly involved to decide. If either side makes unilateral decisions which obliterate the possibility of earnest negotiations, there will be no negotiations and the status quo you speak of will persist indefinitely. If the two sides don't resolve their disagreements in a fair, equitable, and peaceful manner, it will ultimately end with the destruction of both.

In every negotiation some things are non negotiable. Jerusalem is one of these things. Of course, it's silly to talk about final status negotiations until the Palestinians have a government that can credibly offer peace to Israel and that is not going to happen in the near future.

Again... and I can't emphasis this enough ... that's for the parties involved to decide, not you. Even items that are "non-negotiable" have to be accepted as such by all parties directly involved.

First off, Israel has decided Jerusalem is its capital, not me. Non negotiable items are designated as such by one side or the other, not by an agreement between the two sides.

I guess when one steals another's property , it becomes theirs.

 

[toomuchtime_]

Regardless of why you think he is doing it, he will recognize Jerusalem as the capital of Israel and move the US embassy there in compliance with the Jerusalem Embassy Act. Refusing to recognize unchangeable facts makes progress impossible. This is an essential step if there is ever to be a negotiated end to the conflict.

He does not have that authority. He can recognize all he wants, but that does not make it so.

He does have the authority to recognize Jerusalem as the capital of Israel and he does have the authority to move the US Embassy to Jerusalem. Jerusalem is already the capital of Israel, he will merely bring US policy in alignment with reality.

If Jerusalem is the capital of Israel, why does Israel allow foreign governments to establish their respective embassies in Tel Aviv?

Clearly it is the capital of Israel; that's where the Israeli government is located and that's where foreign diplomats go when they have business with the Israeli government. That's where world leaders went without protest for Shimon Peres' funeral.

More nonsense. World leaders went to Peres' funeral to pay respects to Peres, not because anyone considers Jerusalem the capital of Israel. Had Peres been buried in Alaska, that's where world leaders would have traveled.

He was buried in Jerusalem precisely because Jerusalem is the capital of Israel and everyone who went there know that.

 

[Phoenall]

Palestinian babies, toddlers and schoolchildren, their mothers and civilian fathers did nothing to any Israeli and do not deserve to be slaughtered. Show a measure of human empathy.

I have a great deal of empathy for the people of Gaza. But we what we are discussing is who is responsible for their suffering.

You say that Gazans have the "right" to armed resistance. If the Gazans have that right then the Israelis have the right to defend their citizens. In fact, I would say they are obligated to.

If the Gazan people stopped trying to attack Israel not one single more person would die in Gaza.

So why don't they stop attacking and have peace and prosperity?

Because they are being slaughtered every now and then and in the meantime on subsistence rations under a brutal blockade that is destroying a people.

Slaughtered by hamas of course who use them as human shields and cannon fodder.

They are on 50% more calorific intake than many other people are, explaining the rise in obesity, diabetes and other medical complaints due to over eating. The WHO says that on average a working man needs 1500 to 1800 kcals a day to maintain his body mass and health, the gazan's are allocated 2,500 kcals on top of what they grow themselves to supplement their diet. The blockade is not brutal it is placed along the minimum lines as laid down by International law and the Geneva conventions. It only imposes 30% of the banned goods on gaza and more are released each day as good will gestures. The majority of the problems stem from hamas stealing the goods and selling them on the black market to raise funds to buy weapons


At least get your facts right before posting the LIES you have been told to post

 

[toomuchtime_]

First off, it's silly to talk about and final status negotiations until the Palestinians form a government that can credibly offer peace to Israel, and that is not going to happen in the near future, but even if it were, Jerusalem is simply not negotiable, so refusing to recognize that fact leaves nothing but the status quo. Even worse, when Obama and others encourage the Palestinians to insist on things that are not possible, it produces more violence and that prevents changes that would make day to day life for the Palestinians better.

It's not for you to decide what is or is not negotiable. That's for the parties directly involved to decide. If either side makes unilateral decisions which obliterate the possibility of earnest negotiations, there will be no negotiations and the status quo you speak of will persist indefinitely. If the two sides don't resolve their disagreements in a fair, equitable, and peaceful manner, it will ultimately end with the destruction of both.

In every negotiation some things are non negotiable. Jerusalem is one of these things. Of course, it's silly to talk about final status negotiations until the Palestinians have a government that can credibly offer peace to Israel and that is not going to happen in the near future.

Again... and I can't emphasis this enough ... that's for the parties involved to decide, not you. Even items that are "non-negotiable" have to be accepted as such by all parties directly involved.

First off, Israel has decided Jerusalem is its capital, not me. Non negotiable items are designated as such by one side or the other, not by an agreement between the two sides.

I guess when one steals another's property , it becomes theirs.

Stolen from whom?

 

[Faun]

Surely you are smart enough to recognize that making decisions unilaterally does not encourage an end to conflict? It's actually the antithesis to negotiations and only serves to foment further conflict. Which is precisely why neither the U.S. nor 99% of the rest of the entire planet has recognized Jerusalem as the capital of Israel. Any real negotiations intended to earnestly end the conflict requires that discussion be included.

The sad reality is Trump is merely fishing for votes because he's trailing Hillary; but this unbelievably politically naive move of his confirms his opponents' concerns that he is not fit to be president. He's a businessman and a brand name and damn good at that -- but he's not a politician and doesn't know Jack shit about diplomacy.

First off, it's silly to talk about and final status negotiations until the Palestinians form a government that can credibly offer peace to Israel, and that is not going to happen in the near future, but even if it were, Jerusalem is simply not negotiable, so refusing to recognize that fact leaves nothing but the status quo. Even worse, when Obama and others encourage the Palestinians to insist on things that are not possible, it produces more violence and that prevents changes that would make day to day life for the Palestinians better.

It's not for you to decide what is or is not negotiable. That's for the parties directly involved to decide. If either side makes unilateral decisions which obliterate the possibility of earnest negotiations, there will be no negotiations and the status quo you speak of will persist indefinitely. If the two sides don't resolve their disagreements in a fair, equitable, and peaceful manner, it will ultimately end with the destruction of both.

In every negotiation some things are non negotiable. Jerusalem is one of these things. Of course, it's silly to talk about final status negotiations until the Palestinians have a government that can credibly offer peace to Israel and that is not going to happen in the near future.

Again... and I can't emphasis this enough ... that's for the parties involved to decide, not you. Even items that are "non-negotiable" have to be accepted as such by all parties directly involved.

First off, Israel has decided Jerusalem is its capital, not me. Non negotiable items are designated as such by one side or the other, not by an agreement between the two sides.

There are no negotiations taking place at the moment. And yes, both sides agree to what is and what is not negotiable.If one side firmly disagrees with the other's side over something they deem is non-negotiable, all negotiations are at risk of failing.

 

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First off, it's silly to talk about and final status negotiations until the Palestinians form a government that can credibly offer peace to Israel, and that is not going to happen in the near future, but even if it were, Jerusalem is simply not negotiable, so refusing to recognize that fact leaves nothing but the status quo. Even worse, when Obama and others encourage the Palestinians to insist on things that are not possible, it produces more violence and that prevents changes that would make day to day life for the Palestinians better.

It's not for you to decide what is or is not negotiable. That's for the parties directly involved to decide. If either side makes unilateral decisions which obliterate the possibility of earnest negotiations, there will be no negotiations and the status quo you speak of will persist indefinitely. If the two sides don't resolve their disagreements in a fair, equitable, and peaceful manner, it will ultimately end with the destruction of both.

In every negotiation some things are non negotiable. Jerusalem is one of these things. Of course, it's silly to talk about final status negotiations until the Palestinians have a government that can credibly offer peace to Israel and that is not going to happen in the near future.

Again... and I can't emphasis this enough ... that's for the parties involved to decide, not you. Even items that are "non-negotiable" have to be accepted as such by all parties directly involved.

First off, Israel has decided Jerusalem is its capital, not me. Non negotiable items are designated as such by one side or the other, not by an agreement between the two sides.

I guess when one steals another's property , it becomes theirs.

That is a very islamonazi view, and they use it all the time. That is why they are stealing the Jews property and claiming it is theirs