CDZ Does anyone on here believe America has much of a future?

[Flopper]

I really do not like being a pessimist...perhaps someone can put forth a persuasive argument regarding how America will get back on track and become once again a great nation?

Britain withdrew from world leadership and it faded. The same thing will happen to the US if it continues on it's current course. When a superpower such as the US declines from world leadership, it's influence in the world declines. History shows that when a superpower declines, rival nations challenge it for global supremacy. The end result is almost always war.

The United States can not continue to withdrawal into it's borders, building walls real and figurative around itself, withdrawing from multinational agreements such as the Iran Nuclear Arms Treaty, the Trans-Pacific Partnership, and ceding leadership in the UN, NATO, and Paris Accords to other nations. This trend almost guarantees that China will be the unchallenged economic leader in the world claiming the fastest growing economics in the TTP region and Africa. Russia will eventually assume military superiority as it spreads it's influence throughout the Middle East, Asia, and Africa filling the void left by the US.

 

[MacTheKnife]

I think you are right on a couple of things....but definitely wrong about withdrawing from one of the worst deals in history....obamas iran deal.....absolutely repugnant.

We definitely must protect our borders...I am not completely sold on the wall but if it helps o.k. then I would be for it...I just think there are too many ways to get around over or under it. But if used in conjunction withother things it might prove useful....it is more of a symbol I think though than anything else...a drawing of the line so to speak...this far and no further.

China has a lot of problems so I would not bet on them too much. If the U.S. falls apart I do think some power will step in and as someone suggested we will become a vassal state with all that implies and most people will suffer tremendously.

The elites will probably do fine...as puppets and collaborators with whoever takes over.

Russia is just too inept to govern the world...I see some kind of European confederation likely aligned with Islam that will control the Western World.

I really do not see a big war...more likely just small military actions as needed to finish off America as a world power.

 

[depotoo]

It helps

I think you are right on a couple of things....but definitely wrong about withdrawing from one of the worst deals in history....obamas iran deal.....absolutely repugnant.

We definitely must protect our borders...I am not completely sold on the wall but if it helps o.k. then I would be for it...I just think there are too many ways to get around over or under it. But if used in conjunction withother things it might prove useful....it is more of a symbol I think though than anything else...a drawing of the line so to speak...this far and no further.

China has a lot of problems so I would not bet on them too much. If the U.S. falls apart I do think some power will step in and as someone suggested we will become a vassal state with all that implies and most people will suffer tremendously.

The elites will probably do fine...as puppets and collaborators with whoever takes over.

Russia is just too inept to govern the world...I see some kind of European confederation likely aligned with Islam that will control the Western World.

I really do not see a big war...more likely just small military actions as needed to finish off America as a world power.

 

[Unkotare]

America's greatest days are still ahead of us.

 

[pismoe]

It helps

I think you are right on a couple of things....but definitely wrong about withdrawing from one of the worst deals in history....obamas iran deal.....absolutely repugnant.

We definitely must protect our borders...I am not completely sold on the wall but if it helps o.k. then I would be for it...I just think there are too many ways to get around over or under it. But if used in conjunction withother things it might prove useful....it is more of a symbol I think though than anything else...a drawing of the line so to speak...this far and no further.

China has a lot of problems so I would not bet on them too much. If the U.S. falls apart I do think some power will step in and as someone suggested we will become a vassal state with all that implies and most people will suffer tremendously.

The elites will probably do fine...as puppets and collaborators with whoever takes over.

Russia is just too inept to govern the world...I see some kind of European confederation likely aligned with Islam that will control the Western World.

I really do not see a big war...more likely just small military actions as needed to finish off America as a world power.

------------------------------------------------ good video , thank you Depotoo !!

 

[pismoe]

I think you are right on a couple of things....but definitely wrong about withdrawing from one of the worst deals in history....obamas iran deal.....absolutely repugnant.

We definitely must protect our borders...I am not completely sold on the wall but if it helps o.k. then I would be for it...I just think there are too many ways to get around over or under it. But if used in conjunction withother things it might prove useful....it is more of a symbol I think though than anything else...a drawing of the line so to speak...this far and no further.

China has a lot of problems so I would not bet on them too much. If the U.S. falls apart I do think some power will step in and as someone suggested we will become a vassal state with all that implies and most people will suffer tremendously.

The elites will probably do fine...as puppets and collaborators with whoever takes over.

Russia is just too inept to govern the world...I see some kind of European confederation likely aligned with Islam that will control the Western World.

I really do not see a big war...more likely just small military actions as needed to finish off America as a world power.

--------------------------------------- Elites , 'bush familia' will certainly do fine . After all it is they that are messing things up for Americans so they can have what they like Mac .

 

[BasicHumanUnit]

America's greatest days are still ahead of us.

How so?

Matter of opinion and perspective.
It depends entirely on who you ask.

Regardless, "Greatest days" in your definition (based on what we already see...... Patriot Act, Civil Forfeiture, warrantless searches, disregard for borders etc)....will mean less personal freedom, more cultural division, more crime, less resources to go around, more drugs, more violence, censorship and denial of opposing viewpoints (Universities, Social Media and politicians). If you believe these are "good", you're going to eventually learn a very hard lesson, the hard way.

Why you and so many others feel these are so great is a mystery.
I suspect you live in a bubble of delusion where Leftists are all patting each other on the back as they destroy a nation that has given them too much for too long.

 

[CarlinAnnArbor]

Does America have much of a future?

Yes

Do you speak Spanish or Arabic?

 

[pismoe]

America's greatest days are still ahead of us.

How so?

Matter of opinion and perspective.
It depends entirely on who you ask.

Regardless, "Greatest days" in your definition (based on what we already see...... Patriot Act, Civil Forfeiture, warrantless searches, disregard for borders etc)....will mean less personal freedom, more cultural division, more crime, less resources to go around, more drugs, more violence, censorship and denial of opposing viewpoints (Universities, Social Media and politicians). If you believe these are "good", you're going to eventually learn a very hard lesson, the hard way.

Why you and so many others feel these are so great is a mystery.
I suspect you live in a bubble of delusion where Leftists are all patting each other on the back as they destroy a nation that has given them too much for too long.

-------------------------------------- the 'ilk' makes his living teaching imported third worlders both legal and illegal Basic .

 

[Unkotare]

America's greatest days are still ahead of us.

How so?.....

What do you mean? Be more specific.

 

[pismoe]

and as i have been saying the last 3 - 4 years on this board . I see what you describe in your post number 107 but i think what you describe will mostly affect the millenials , hip hopper , dopers and their kids Basic

 

[Unkotare]

.... MY country and MY countrymen will carry on toward a more perfect union as always.

 

[Dekster]

I really do not like being a pessimist...perhaps someone can put forth a persuasive argument regarding how America will get back on track and become once again a great nation?

America is fine. Just because we are not as aggressive militarily and nationalistically as we were in the past does not mean we are somehow on our knees. It will take a few years to recover from the current administration, but we will get there.

 

[MacTheKnife]

I really do not like being a pessimist...perhaps someone can put forth a persuasive argument regarding how America will get back on track and become once again a great nation?

America is fine. Just because we are not as aggressive militarily and nationalistically as we were in the past does not mean we are somehow on our knees. It will take a few years to recover from the current administration, but we will get there.

When folks like the above say ' dont worry be happy' you best start heading for the hills.

 

[Leo123]

I really do not like being a pessimist...perhaps someone can put forth a persuasive argument regarding how America will get back on track and become once again a great nation?

Listen to Trump.

 

[Dekster]

I really do not like being a pessimist...perhaps someone can put forth a persuasive argument regarding how America will get back on track and become once again a great nation?

America is fine. Just because we are not as aggressive militarily and nationalistically as we were in the past does not mean we are somehow on our knees. It will take a few years to recover from the current administration, but we will get there.

When folks like the above say ' dont worry be happy' you best start heading for the hills.

I didn't say be happy. It would be rude to all the Debbie Downers who project their personal old, tired hopelessness onto America. Just because they are worn out doesn't mean America is.

 

[deanrd]

I really do not like being a pessimist...perhaps someone can put forth a persuasive argument regarding how America will get back on track and become once again a great nation?

We just have to vote Republicans out of office. If we can do that we can make America great again.

 

[BasicHumanUnit]

.... MY country and MY countrymen will carry on toward a more perfect union as always.

And that country would be .......Mexico

 

[BasicHumanUnit]

I really do not like being a pessimist...perhaps someone can put forth a persuasive argument regarding how America will get back on track and become once again a great nation?

America is fine. Just because we are not as aggressive militarily and nationalistically as we were in the past does not mean we are somehow on our knees. It will take a few years to recover from the current administration, but we will get there.

And Venezuela "is just fine"....say Communists

This is what our darling snowflake twinkletoes fail to grasp (or know and savor).....the world is moving on and has it's own agendas & intentions.......as the left works relentlessly to weaken the US.

China's military has strength to replace US as world's superpower
China's military has strength to replace US as world's superpower: Gen. Keane

The Left is setting up the US and the entire West for a very dark day of reckoning.....and they couldn't be happier. Fools working hard to give up everything and live like 4th worlders.
History will someday prove that at a time when action was mandatory and critical, good men did ......nothing. History repeats.
You know what they say about hindsight.

 

[BasicHumanUnit]

I really do not like being a pessimist...perhaps someone can put forth a persuasive argument regarding how America will get back on track and become once again a great nation?

We just have to vote Republicans out of office. If we can do that we can make America great again.

Hmmm.....I thought your ilk said America was never great in the first place....

Many would say that escorting your ilk across the border permanently would do more for the country than your silly misguided proposal.