Doctors are now warning: If you use aluminum foil, stop it or face deadly consequences

[flacaltenn]

Of course, I'll change immediately. Because a website like FAITH PANDA is a trusted source of cutting edge medical research and did NOT try to hack my computer while I went to view your link..

STUPIDITY maybe if you stop using the foil and teflon pans you might grow some of that brain back..

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Turns out you shouldn't be using aluminium foil on the barbecue

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Comparison of the regional distribution of transferrin receptors and aluminium in the forebrain of chronic renal dialysis patients. - PubMed - NCBI

Nawww. Don't think it's stupidity in my case. More CURIOUS and ANALYTICAL than a member of the easily panicked herd.

Let's start here -- The study you produced was done on people with kidneys SO FAR GONE that they required "chronic dialysis". So, that's not a measure of how much Alum. sticks around from ingestion. Which maybe in the range of 1% or less. And as it turns out -- the ONLY verifiable Alzheimer deaths due to "aluminum poisoning" are less than 5. One a man who WORKED in a hazardous Alum dust enviro. One a women who's municipal water supply had HIGH levels of NATURALLY occurring ALum..

So -- the "foil" risk is just a SMALL FRACTION of the concerns when considering how the body inhales or digests FOOD PRODUCTS containing aluminum. For instance, if you are a cook or a baker -- and I am --- I KNOW that many leavening agents show Alum components right on the damn pkg. To wit....

Aluminium content of selected foods and food products
Aluminium is the third most abundant element in the earth's crust and is therefore a natural component of drinking water and foodstuffs and is a component of many manufactured materials. Exposure of the human body to aluminium may be by food [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8] including drinking water, fruit juices wine and beer [9, 10, 11], articles of daily use that are made of aluminium, cosmetics and pharmaceuticals such as local therapeutic agents, anti-diarrhoeal drugs or antacids. Increased aluminium exposure can be compensated for by excretion via intestines and normal, healthy kidneys. Kidney insufficiency was shown to result in increased aluminium concentrations in the kidneys of dialysis patients, possibly resulting from dialysis fluids that may contain substantial concentrations of aluminium [12].

For many years, aluminium was not considered a health threat because of its relatively low bioavailability. In 1965, however, animal experiments suggested a possible connection between aluminium and Alzheimer's disease, whereby aluminium salts were injected directly into rabbit brain where they caused tissue alterations (for a review see [13]). Increased aluminium concentrations were found in the brains of deceased Alzheimer's patients. Other studies, however, have been unable to find definite indications supporting the hypothesis that aluminium plays a causative role in Alzheimer's disease or causes pathological alterations in vivo in the species studied [14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20].

In the 1970s, the issue of toxicity of aluminium gained importance after Berlyne et al. (1970) reported on increased aluminium concentrations in the serum of nephropathic persons [21]. The findings of Alfrey et al. [22] increased concerns about an increased oral intake of aluminium since these findings were the first to establish a connection between neurologic diseases of dialysis patients and an increased intake of aluminium in the organism. In a more recent study aluminium is also discussed as as an endocrine disruptor in female Nile Tilapia (Oreochromis niloticus) [23].

Food is unquestionably the main source of aluminium intake, whereby the source is considered either primary or secondary. The primary content is the natural content of food caused by uptake from the geologic surrounding during growth and is for all practical purposes unavoidable. The secondary content is the primary content plus any possible contamination from aluminium articles that come into contact with food and additives as well as veterinary drugs, fertilisers and the air. Table 1 shows the main, permissible secondary aluminium sources that may lead to an aluminium accumulation in food.

Check out the FOOD table in that article to see how "herbal teas" cocoa powder, baked goods and other common foods, food additives, vaccines, and enviro exposure to common stuff --- BESIDES Alum foil is actually a part of this concern..

Then cruise over to WebMd (aluminum toxicity Alzheimers) and read about all the studies that DID NOT SHOW aluminum toxicity as a suspect cause...

It's "unsettled science" --- As MOST of science is..

Unsettled science still doesn't mean that all theories have equal validity. This is more in the category of accepted science, meaning the leading authorities are comfortable with the finding even if every potential aspect is not, and possibly will never be known.

And "what finding" would that be? Especially, if there's no effort to establish min safe exposure levels or QUANTIFY the exact risk for Alzheimers and the other "postulated" outcomes?

No findings -- no "accepted" science. Just gathering empirical evidence on "causality" and attempting to identify the possible "vector sources" for the theory.

Did ya go the WebMD site? Probably not..

Controversial Claims About the Causes of Alzheimer's Disease

One of the most publicized and controversial theories concerns aluminum, which became a suspect in Alzheimer's disease when researchers found traces of this metal in the brains of patients with Alzheimer's disease. Many studies since then have either not been able to confirm this finding or have had questionable results.

Aluminum does turn up in higher amounts than normal in some autopsy studies of Alzheimer's patients, but not in all. Further doubt about the importance of aluminum stems from the possibility that the aluminum found in some studies did not all come from the brain tissues being studied. Instead, some could have come from the special substances used in the laboratory to study brain tissue.

Aluminum is a common element in the Earth's crust and is found in small amounts in numerous household products and in many foods. As a result, there have been fears that aluminum in the diet or absorbed in other ways could be a factor in Alzheimer's. One study found that people who used antiperspirants and antacids containing aluminum had a higher risk of developing Alzheimer's. Others have also reported an association between aluminum exposure and Alzheimer's disease.

On the other hand, various studies have found that groups of people exposed to high levels of aluminum do not have an increased risk. Moreover, aluminum in cooking utensils does not get into food, and the aluminum that does occur naturally in some foods, such as potatoes, is not absorbed well by the body. On the whole, scientists can say only that it is still uncertain whether exposure to aluminum plays a role in Alzheimer's disease.

http://www.alz.org/alzwa/documents/alzwa_resource_ad_fs_aluminum.pdf

Does aluminum play a role in causing
Alzheimer’s disease?
Thinking about whether aluminum plays any role in
Alzheimer’s disease has evolved over the 40 years that
researchers have been exploring this question. The theory
that aluminum might be involved emerged in the 1960s
after scientists discovered that exposing rabbits’ brains to
aluminum caused nerve cell damage with some similarity to
Alzheimer pathology. Physicians also noted that people
undergoing long-term dialysis sometimes develop a nonAlzheimer
form of dementia caused by a buildup of
aluminum in the bloodstream. These observations raised
the specter that aluminum might be one of the first
substances implicated in triggering Alzheimer’s.
However, studies since then have failed to document a
clear role for aluminum in causing Alzheimer’s. Every
perspective from which researchers have explored the
question has yielded contradictory data. For virtually every
study suggesting that aluminum may be linked to
Alzheimer’s, there is another study failing to confirm
those results.
The vast majority of mainstream scientists now believe that
if aluminum plays any role at all in Alzheimer’s, that role is
small. If aluminum exposure had a major impact on risk,
scientists would have gained a clearer picture of its
involvement over the decades that they have been studying
the issue, even though certain factors hamper research. One
such issue lies in the widespread occurrence of both
aluminum and Alzheimer’s, which complicates the effort to
characterize their relationship. Aluminum is Earth’s third
most common element after oxygen and silicon, and
Alzheimer’s occurs frequently in older adults.

.........
Further, it is unlikely that people can significantly reduce their exposure to aluminum through such measures as avoiding aluminum-containing cookware, foil, beverage cans, medications and other products. Even if aluminum were clearly implicated in Alzheimer’s, these routes of exposure account for only a small percentage of the average person’s intake.


I've got another source on this -- my daughter, who has worked in 2 of the top US research labs on Alzheimer's in the past few years. And we've had long discussions about the "elevated number" and enviro issues. And there's a LOT of theories. But not a lot of "settled or "consensus" science on this theory about metals.

Not even CONSENSUS science at this point. Not likely to BE SETTLED science in the near future.

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Wow. Electron Microscope pix. How cool.. Still -- the increase from cooking meats is very dependent of the spicing, time, temperature, acidity of the marinade or sauces. And that SAME paper shows that MOST of the results only doubled or tripled the NATURAL aluminum content of the food. So HOW MUCH you ate of a marinated steak NOT cooked on foil -- could outweigh a smaller portion cooked on foil. So what? Until you have a CONNECTION to a specific med condition -- the caution should be for folks on constant dialysis -- with no natural kidney function. And those folks have a whole ENCYCLOPEDIA of stuff to worry about already..

 

[MindWars]

OH look even msm has the information

Aluminium foil is classic kitchen staple, and useful for loads of recipes - but according to scientists, it might being doing you more harm than good.

Here’s the bad news: The metal could be transferring to your food.

Why You Shouldn’t Cook With Aluminium Foil

 

[Ringel05]

Aluminum foil, which was first introduced in the early 1900s, is currently one of the most commonly used kitchen items. It is extremely versatile too, and is used for cooking, wrapping, and even for treating some common heath issues. However, the problem with this kitchen item is its neurotoxic nature, which negatively affects the brain function and it was even found to trigger the onset of Alzheimer`s disease. As explained by medical expert, exposure to this metal may lead to mental decline and loss of memory, balance, bodily control, and coordination.
Doctors Are Now Warning: If You Use Aluminum Foil, Stop It Or Face Deadly Consequences
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or you can not believe it and think it's all a bunch of bs and keep right on using it so in ten years you can have your Doctor tell you , you are so ill because it's genetic.

They're just trying to get you to stop wearing it and blocking their mind control brain waves the government is broadcasting.

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SO MUCH FOR A CONSPIRACY THANKS LMAO , you guys don't even know what you don't know.

One study that is controversial at best. Don't get me wrong, they could be completely to partially correct which also means they could be completely to partially wrong.
You're going to base your eating habits based on one study?

 

[RodISHI]

STUPIDITY maybe if you stop using the foil and teflon pans you might grow some of that brain back..

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Turns out you shouldn't be using aluminium foil on the barbecue

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Comparison of the regional distribution of transferrin receptors and aluminium in the forebrain of chronic renal dialysis patients. - PubMed - NCBI

Nawww. Don't think it's stupidity in my case. More CURIOUS and ANALYTICAL than a member of the easily panicked herd.

Let's start here -- The study you produced was done on people with kidneys SO FAR GONE that they required "chronic dialysis". So, that's not a measure of how much Alum. sticks around from ingestion. Which maybe in the range of 1% or less. And as it turns out -- the ONLY verifiable Alzheimer deaths due to "aluminum poisoning" are less than 5. One a man who WORKED in a hazardous Alum dust enviro. One a women who's municipal water supply had HIGH levels of NATURALLY occurring ALum..

So -- the "foil" risk is just a SMALL FRACTION of the concerns when considering how the body inhales or digests FOOD PRODUCTS containing aluminum. For instance, if you are a cook or a baker -- and I am --- I KNOW that many leavening agents show Alum components right on the damn pkg. To wit....

Aluminium content of selected foods and food products
Aluminium is the third most abundant element in the earth's crust and is therefore a natural component of drinking water and foodstuffs and is a component of many manufactured materials. Exposure of the human body to aluminium may be by food [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8] including drinking water, fruit juices wine and beer [9, 10, 11], articles of daily use that are made of aluminium, cosmetics and pharmaceuticals such as local therapeutic agents, anti-diarrhoeal drugs or antacids. Increased aluminium exposure can be compensated for by excretion via intestines and normal, healthy kidneys. Kidney insufficiency was shown to result in increased aluminium concentrations in the kidneys of dialysis patients, possibly resulting from dialysis fluids that may contain substantial concentrations of aluminium [12].

For many years, aluminium was not considered a health threat because of its relatively low bioavailability. In 1965, however, animal experiments suggested a possible connection between aluminium and Alzheimer's disease, whereby aluminium salts were injected directly into rabbit brain where they caused tissue alterations (for a review see [13]). Increased aluminium concentrations were found in the brains of deceased Alzheimer's patients. Other studies, however, have been unable to find definite indications supporting the hypothesis that aluminium plays a causative role in Alzheimer's disease or causes pathological alterations in vivo in the species studied [14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20].

In the 1970s, the issue of toxicity of aluminium gained importance after Berlyne et al. (1970) reported on increased aluminium concentrations in the serum of nephropathic persons [21]. The findings of Alfrey et al. [22] increased concerns about an increased oral intake of aluminium since these findings were the first to establish a connection between neurologic diseases of dialysis patients and an increased intake of aluminium in the organism. In a more recent study aluminium is also discussed as as an endocrine disruptor in female Nile Tilapia (Oreochromis niloticus) [23].

Food is unquestionably the main source of aluminium intake, whereby the source is considered either primary or secondary. The primary content is the natural content of food caused by uptake from the geologic surrounding during growth and is for all practical purposes unavoidable. The secondary content is the primary content plus any possible contamination from aluminium articles that come into contact with food and additives as well as veterinary drugs, fertilisers and the air. Table 1 shows the main, permissible secondary aluminium sources that may lead to an aluminium accumulation in food.

Check out the FOOD table in that article to see how "herbal teas" cocoa powder, baked goods and other common foods, food additives, vaccines, and enviro exposure to common stuff --- BESIDES Alum foil is actually a part of this concern..

Then cruise over to WebMd (aluminum toxicity Alzheimers) and read about all the studies that DID NOT SHOW aluminum toxicity as a suspect cause...

It's "unsettled science" --- As MOST of science is..

Unsettled science still doesn't mean that all theories have equal validity. This is more in the category of accepted science, meaning the leading authorities are comfortable with the finding even if every potential aspect is not, and possibly will never be known.

And "what finding" would that be? Especially, if there's no effort to establish min safe exposure levels or QUANTIFY the exact risk for Alzheimers and the other "postulated" outcomes?

No findings -- no "accepted" science. Just gathering empirical evidence on "causality" and attempting to identify the possible "vector sources" for the theory.

Did ya go the WebMD site? Probably not..

Controversial Claims About the Causes of Alzheimer's Disease

One of the most publicized and controversial theories concerns aluminum, which became a suspect in Alzheimer's disease when researchers found traces of this metal in the brains of patients with Alzheimer's disease. Many studies since then have either not been able to confirm this finding or have had questionable results.

Aluminum does turn up in higher amounts than normal in some autopsy studies of Alzheimer's patients, but not in all. Further doubt about the importance of aluminum stems from the possibility that the aluminum found in some studies did not all come from the brain tissues being studied. Instead, some could have come from the special substances used in the laboratory to study brain tissue.

Aluminum is a common element in the Earth's crust and is found in small amounts in numerous household products and in many foods. As a result, there have been fears that aluminum in the diet or absorbed in other ways could be a factor in Alzheimer's. One study found that people who used antiperspirants and antacids containing aluminum had a higher risk of developing Alzheimer's. Others have also reported an association between aluminum exposure and Alzheimer's disease.

On the other hand, various studies have found that groups of people exposed to high levels of aluminum do not have an increased risk. Moreover, aluminum in cooking utensils does not get into food, and the aluminum that does occur naturally in some foods, such as potatoes, is not absorbed well by the body. On the whole, scientists can say only that it is still uncertain whether exposure to aluminum plays a role in Alzheimer's disease.

http://www.alz.org/alzwa/documents/alzwa_resource_ad_fs_aluminum.pdf

Does aluminum play a role in causing
Alzheimer’s disease?
Thinking about whether aluminum plays any role in
Alzheimer’s disease has evolved over the 40 years that
researchers have been exploring this question. The theory
that aluminum might be involved emerged in the 1960s
after scientists discovered that exposing rabbits’ brains to
aluminum caused nerve cell damage with some similarity to
Alzheimer pathology. Physicians also noted that people
undergoing long-term dialysis sometimes develop a nonAlzheimer
form of dementia caused by a buildup of
aluminum in the bloodstream. These observations raised
the specter that aluminum might be one of the first
substances implicated in triggering Alzheimer’s.
However, studies since then have failed to document a
clear role for aluminum in causing Alzheimer’s. Every
perspective from which researchers have explored the
question has yielded contradictory data. For virtually every
study suggesting that aluminum may be linked to
Alzheimer’s, there is another study failing to confirm
those results.
The vast majority of mainstream scientists now believe that
if aluminum plays any role at all in Alzheimer’s, that role is
small. If aluminum exposure had a major impact on risk,
scientists would have gained a clearer picture of its
involvement over the decades that they have been studying
the issue, even though certain factors hamper research. One
such issue lies in the widespread occurrence of both
aluminum and Alzheimer’s, which complicates the effort to
characterize their relationship. Aluminum is Earth’s third
most common element after oxygen and silicon, and
Alzheimer’s occurs frequently in older adults.

.........
Further, it is unlikely that people can significantly reduce their exposure to aluminum through such measures as avoiding aluminum-containing cookware, foil, beverage cans, medications and other products. Even if aluminum were clearly implicated in Alzheimer’s, these routes of exposure account for only a small percentage of the average person’s intake.


I've got another source on this -- my daughter, who has worked in 2 of the top US research labs on Alzheimer's in the past few years. And we've had long discussions about the "elevated number" and enviro issues. And there's a LOT of theories. But not a lot of "settled or "consensus" science on this theory about metals.

Not even CONSENSUS science at this point. Not likely to BE SETTLED science in the near future.

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Wow. Electron Microscope pix. How cool.. Still -- the increase from cooking meats is very dependent of the spicing, time, temperature, acidity of the marinade or sauces. And that SAME paper shows that MOST of the results only doubled or tripled the NATURAL aluminum content of the food. So HOW MUCH you ate of a marinated steak NOT cooked on foil -- could outweigh a smaller portion cooked on foil. So what? Until you have a CONNECTION to a specific med condition -- the caution should be for folks on constant dialysis -- with no natural kidney function. And those folks have a whole ENCYCLOPEDIA of stuff to worry about already..

Hey when I hit 90 like Grandma I'd like to have as much as possible in the brain still working. She used aluminum pans her whole life but ate her own canned food etc... SO very healthy but dementia set in early.

 

[flacaltenn]

Looking at the issue from 1st principles and not blubbering about how much MORE aluminum you might consume from cooking on foil ---- Here's a definitive statement from Scientific American.. No definitive answer, but not a lot of EVIDENCE either for the brain disease theories.

Is there any proof that Alzheimer's disease is related to exposure to aluminum--for instance, by using aluminum frying pans? Should read it. .


Hey.. Is it fair to point out that MindWar's "aluminum testing" paper was paid for by a Gulf State OIL COMPANY??


Doesn't bother me at all. But in the interest of my snowflake buds -- I thought I'd provide that warning..

 

[MindWars]

Sure and Mercury is cure-all that was used for a millennia in potions and concoctions. Also don't wash those hands as you'll spread germ **sarcasm intended**

I've got some Blue Mass for sale........

Is that the Aluminum Barium Silicate that they have been spraying in the skies? You know plants won't grow where Aluminum is concentrated in the ground. Monsanto has a patented seed that will grow in dirt with high Aluminum concentrates though so its all okay ***again sarcasm intended***

Blue mass was mostly mercury in a tablet form that was prevalent in the 19th century as a supposed cure-all.
As for aluminum I can draw all sorts of medical correlations also......... I can also draw medical correlations from just about anything, there in lies the challenge with true medical research.

I think it all plays a piece and a part yet they have everything so damn polluted at this point its going to be hard to pinpoint exacts. Here there have always been some pretty dastardly diseases but when you factor in the pollution and how much of the natural they have killed off I believe its made those diseases worse. Like Poke Weed root kills one disease that is spread by the birds but the birds actually can eat the Poke Berries without getting sick and the Poke Berry has the ability to kill that particular disease and was also called the cancer root because it killed certain cancers. (can't recall offhand the particular disease its in notes in other puter)

Supposedly plastics continue to give off "gasses", there was at least one study that claimed this was the cause of almost all cancers.

And yet people can't put two and two together when we look at the Amish who barely have any cancer rates among them, they don't get vaccinated, and they don't use plastics.

We're talking the older generation more so than the younger, as the younger are getting tainted with American bs.

 

[MindWars]

Sure and Mercury is cure-all that was used for a millennia in potions and concoctions. Also don't wash those hands as you'll spread germ **sarcasm intended**

I've got some Blue Mass for sale........

Is that the Aluminum Barium Silicate that they have been spraying in the skies? You know plants won't grow where Aluminum is concentrated in the ground. Monsanto has a patented seed that will grow in dirt with high Aluminum concentrates though so its all okay ***again sarcasm intended***

Blue mass was mostly mercury in a tablet form that was prevalent in the 19th century as a supposed cure-all.
As for aluminum I can draw all sorts of medical correlations also......... I can also draw medical correlations from just about anything, there in lies the challenge with true medical research.

I think it all plays a piece and a part yet they have everything so damn polluted at this point its going to be hard to pinpoint exacts. Here there have always been some pretty dastardly diseases but when you factor in the pollution and how much of the natural they have killed off I believe its made those diseases worse. Like Poke Weed root kills one disease that is spread by the birds but the birds actually can eat the Poke Berries without getting sick and the Poke Berry has the ability to kill that particular disease and was also called the cancer root because it killed certain cancers. (can't recall offhand the particular disease its in notes in other puter)

Supposedly plastics continue to give off "gasses", there was at least one study that claimed this was the cause of almost all cancers.

Before they all went on a rampage about plastics it is also leeching chemicals they believe are causing or were causing much of the gayness in people. The chemicals from mother to baby and there afterwards the baby bottles etc.

 

[MindWars]

Aluminum foil, which was first introduced in the early 1900s, is currently one of the most commonly used kitchen items. It is extremely versatile too, and is used for cooking, wrapping, and even for treating some common heath issues. However, the problem with this kitchen item is its neurotoxic nature, which negatively affects the brain function and it was even found to trigger the onset of Alzheimer`s disease. As explained by medical expert, exposure to this metal may lead to mental decline and loss of memory, balance, bodily control, and coordination.
Doctors Are Now Warning: If You Use Aluminum Foil, Stop It Or Face Deadly Consequences
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

or you can not believe it and think it's all a bunch of bs and keep right on using it so in ten years you can have your Doctor tell you , you are so ill because it's genetic.

They're just trying to get you to stop wearing it and blocking their mind control brain waves the government is broadcasting.

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SO MUCH FOR A CONSPIRACY THANKS LMAO , you guys don't even know what you don't know.

One study that is controversial at best. Don't get me wrong, they could be completely to partially correct which also means they could be completely to partially wrong.
You're going to base your eating habits based on one study?

No I've known about many, many issues with in the last ten years or so. The most we can do at this point is minimize our intake of this bs.

I realize so, so much of it is almost impossible to avoid, but if we lessen our intake of stuff it probably helps.

Plastics are so, so hard to avoid I mean damn all the following things that come in plastic
milk
bread
anything you buy and it's wrapped
the list goes on and on.

 

[MindWars]

Looking at the issue from 1st principles and not blubbering about how much MORE aluminum you might consume from cooking on foil ---- Here's a definitive statement from Scientific American.. No definitive answer, but not a lot of EVIDENCE either for the brain disease theories.

Is there any proof that Alzheimer's disease is related to exposure to aluminum--for instance, by using aluminum frying pans? Should read it. .


Hey.. Is it fair to point out that MindWar's "aluminum testing" paper was paid for by a Gulf State OIL COMPANY??


Doesn't bother me at all. But in the interest of my snowflake buds -- I thought I'd provide that warning..

U haven' t learned I don't waste my time on dunce people.

 

[flacaltenn]

What about aluminum cans?

Yeah -- that MIGHT be a concern. Because sodas are VERY ACIDIC. But I'm pretty sure the insides are coated with something to prevent leaching. Besides, I've already posted that what is added from food containers or foil used in cooking is far LESS than the amount of Aluminum ingested in the foods themselves or the food additives used in manufacturing and preparation. So -- if there ARE health connections, you'd have to take a BROADER look at the TOTAL ingestion of Alum and how much is excreted from normal functioning body...

 

[boedicca]

What about aluminum cans?

Yeah -- that MIGHT be a concern. Because sodas are VERY ACIDIC. But I'm pretty sure the insides are coated with something to prevent leaching. Besides, I've already posted that what is added from food containers or foil used in cooking is far LESS than the amount of Aluminum ingested in the foods themselves or the food additives used in manufacturing and preparation. So -- if there ARE health connections, you'd have to take a BROADER look at the TOTAL ingestion of Alum and how much is excreted from normal functioning body...

The Soda is worse for one than the aluminum can.

Just sayin'.

 

[flacaltenn]

Looking at the issue from 1st principles and not blubbering about how much MORE aluminum you might consume from cooking on foil ---- Here's a definitive statement from Scientific American.. No definitive answer, but not a lot of EVIDENCE either for the brain disease theories.

Is there any proof that Alzheimer's disease is related to exposure to aluminum--for instance, by using aluminum frying pans? Should read it. .


Hey.. Is it fair to point out that MindWar's "aluminum testing" paper was paid for by a Gulf State OIL COMPANY??


Doesn't bother me at all. But in the interest of my snowflake buds -- I thought I'd provide that warning..

U haven' t learned I don't waste my time on dunce people.

Did you learn that the TOTAL consumed amount of Alum is NOT dominated by cooking on foil ?? Because that's what every source I've looked at has said. If you want to worry -- worry about baked goods, and chocolate and beer and herbal teas -- not the containers or cooking foil. That's part of the "learning" here. Or at least it SHOULD be.

 

[PredFan]

Aluminum foil, which was first introduced in the early 1900s, is currently one of the most commonly used kitchen items. It is extremely versatile too, and is used for cooking, wrapping, and even for treating some common heath issues. However, the problem with this kitchen item is its neurotoxic nature, which negatively affects the brain function and it was even found to trigger the onset of Alzheimer`s disease. As explained by medical expert, exposure to this metal may lead to mental decline and loss of memory, balance, bodily control, and coordination.
Doctors Are Now Warning: If You Use Aluminum Foil, Stop It Or Face Deadly Consequences
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

or you can not believe it and think it's all a bunch of bs and keep right on using it so in ten years you can have your Doctor tell you , you are so ill because it's genetic.

That is old news and has been debunked.

Are you saying Aluminum isn't a neurotoxin?




neurotoxins

1. a poison that acts on the nervous system.

1.5 How can aluminum affect my health?
This section looks at studies concerning potential health effects in animal and human studies.

Workers

• Inhalation

Workers who breathe large amounts of aluminum dusts can have lung problems, such as coughing or changes that show up in chest X-rays. The use of breathing masks and controls on the levels of dust in factories have largely eliminated this problem.

Some workers who breathe aluminum-containing dusts or aluminum fumes have decreased performance in some tests that measure functions of the nervous system.

Humans

• Oral

Oral exposure to aluminum is usually not harmful. Some studies show that people exposed to high levels of aluminum may develop Alzheimer’s disease, but other studies have not found this to be true. We do not know for certain that aluminum causes Alzheimer’s disease.

Some people who have kidney disease store a lot of aluminum in their bodies. The kidney disease causes less aluminum to be removed from the body in the urine. Sometimes, these people developed bone or brain diseases that doctors think were caused by the excess aluminum.

Although aluminum-containing over the counter oral products are considered safe in healthy individuals at recommended doses, some adverse effects have been observed following long-term use in some individuals.

Laboratory animals

• Inhalation

Lung effects have been observed in animals exposed to aluminum dust. Scientists do not know if these effects are due to the aluminum or to the animals breathing in a lot of dust.

• Oral

Studies in animals show that the nervous system is a sensitive target of aluminum toxicity. Obvious signs of damage were not seen in animals after high oral doses of aluminum. However, the animals did not perform as well in tests that measured the strength of their grip or how much they moved around.

Nope, never said that or implied it. But thanks for the info.

 

[Kat]

Nawww. Don't think it's stupidity in my case. More CURIOUS and ANALYTICAL than a member of the easily panicked herd.

Let's start here -- The study you produced was done on people with kidneys SO FAR GONE that they required "chronic dialysis". So, that's not a measure of how much Alum. sticks around from ingestion. Which maybe in the range of 1% or less. And as it turns out -- the ONLY verifiable Alzheimer deaths due to "aluminum poisoning" are less than 5. One a man who WORKED in a hazardous Alum dust enviro. One a women who's municipal water supply had HIGH levels of NATURALLY occurring ALum..

So -- the "foil" risk is just a SMALL FRACTION of the concerns when considering how the body inhales or digests FOOD PRODUCTS containing aluminum. For instance, if you are a cook or a baker -- and I am --- I KNOW that many leavening agents show Alum components right on the damn pkg. To wit....

Aluminium content of selected foods and food products
Aluminium is the third most abundant element in the earth's crust and is therefore a natural component of drinking water and foodstuffs and is a component of many manufactured materials. Exposure of the human body to aluminium may be by food [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8] including drinking water, fruit juices wine and beer [9, 10, 11], articles of daily use that are made of aluminium, cosmetics and pharmaceuticals such as local therapeutic agents, anti-diarrhoeal drugs or antacids. Increased aluminium exposure can be compensated for by excretion via intestines and normal, healthy kidneys. Kidney insufficiency was shown to result in increased aluminium concentrations in the kidneys of dialysis patients, possibly resulting from dialysis fluids that may contain substantial concentrations of aluminium [12].

For many years, aluminium was not considered a health threat because of its relatively low bioavailability. In 1965, however, animal experiments suggested a possible connection between aluminium and Alzheimer's disease, whereby aluminium salts were injected directly into rabbit brain where they caused tissue alterations (for a review see [13]). Increased aluminium concentrations were found in the brains of deceased Alzheimer's patients. Other studies, however, have been unable to find definite indications supporting the hypothesis that aluminium plays a causative role in Alzheimer's disease or causes pathological alterations in vivo in the species studied [14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20].

In the 1970s, the issue of toxicity of aluminium gained importance after Berlyne et al. (1970) reported on increased aluminium concentrations in the serum of nephropathic persons [21]. The findings of Alfrey et al. [22] increased concerns about an increased oral intake of aluminium since these findings were the first to establish a connection between neurologic diseases of dialysis patients and an increased intake of aluminium in the organism. In a more recent study aluminium is also discussed as as an endocrine disruptor in female Nile Tilapia (Oreochromis niloticus) [23].

Food is unquestionably the main source of aluminium intake, whereby the source is considered either primary or secondary. The primary content is the natural content of food caused by uptake from the geologic surrounding during growth and is for all practical purposes unavoidable. The secondary content is the primary content plus any possible contamination from aluminium articles that come into contact with food and additives as well as veterinary drugs, fertilisers and the air. Table 1 shows the main, permissible secondary aluminium sources that may lead to an aluminium accumulation in food.

Check out the FOOD table in that article to see how "herbal teas" cocoa powder, baked goods and other common foods, food additives, vaccines, and enviro exposure to common stuff --- BESIDES Alum foil is actually a part of this concern..

Then cruise over to WebMd (aluminum toxicity Alzheimers) and read about all the studies that DID NOT SHOW aluminum toxicity as a suspect cause...

It's "unsettled science" --- As MOST of science is..

Unsettled science still doesn't mean that all theories have equal validity. This is more in the category of accepted science, meaning the leading authorities are comfortable with the finding even if every potential aspect is not, and possibly will never be known.

And "what finding" would that be? Especially, if there's no effort to establish min safe exposure levels or QUANTIFY the exact risk for Alzheimers and the other "postulated" outcomes?

No findings -- no "accepted" science. Just gathering empirical evidence on "causality" and attempting to identify the possible "vector sources" for the theory.

Did ya go the WebMD site? Probably not..

Controversial Claims About the Causes of Alzheimer's Disease

One of the most publicized and controversial theories concerns aluminum, which became a suspect in Alzheimer's disease when researchers found traces of this metal in the brains of patients with Alzheimer's disease. Many studies since then have either not been able to confirm this finding or have had questionable results.

Aluminum does turn up in higher amounts than normal in some autopsy studies of Alzheimer's patients, but not in all. Further doubt about the importance of aluminum stems from the possibility that the aluminum found in some studies did not all come from the brain tissues being studied. Instead, some could have come from the special substances used in the laboratory to study brain tissue.

Aluminum is a common element in the Earth's crust and is found in small amounts in numerous household products and in many foods. As a result, there have been fears that aluminum in the diet or absorbed in other ways could be a factor in Alzheimer's. One study found that people who used antiperspirants and antacids containing aluminum had a higher risk of developing Alzheimer's. Others have also reported an association between aluminum exposure and Alzheimer's disease.

On the other hand, various studies have found that groups of people exposed to high levels of aluminum do not have an increased risk. Moreover, aluminum in cooking utensils does not get into food, and the aluminum that does occur naturally in some foods, such as potatoes, is not absorbed well by the body. On the whole, scientists can say only that it is still uncertain whether exposure to aluminum plays a role in Alzheimer's disease.

http://www.alz.org/alzwa/documents/alzwa_resource_ad_fs_aluminum.pdf

Does aluminum play a role in causing
Alzheimer’s disease?
Thinking about whether aluminum plays any role in
Alzheimer’s disease has evolved over the 40 years that
researchers have been exploring this question. The theory
that aluminum might be involved emerged in the 1960s
after scientists discovered that exposing rabbits’ brains to
aluminum caused nerve cell damage with some similarity to
Alzheimer pathology. Physicians also noted that people
undergoing long-term dialysis sometimes develop a nonAlzheimer
form of dementia caused by a buildup of
aluminum in the bloodstream. These observations raised
the specter that aluminum might be one of the first
substances implicated in triggering Alzheimer’s.
However, studies since then have failed to document a
clear role for aluminum in causing Alzheimer’s. Every
perspective from which researchers have explored the
question has yielded contradictory data. For virtually every
study suggesting that aluminum may be linked to
Alzheimer’s, there is another study failing to confirm
those results.
The vast majority of mainstream scientists now believe that
if aluminum plays any role at all in Alzheimer’s, that role is
small. If aluminum exposure had a major impact on risk,
scientists would have gained a clearer picture of its
involvement over the decades that they have been studying
the issue, even though certain factors hamper research. One
such issue lies in the widespread occurrence of both
aluminum and Alzheimer’s, which complicates the effort to
characterize their relationship. Aluminum is Earth’s third
most common element after oxygen and silicon, and
Alzheimer’s occurs frequently in older adults.

.........
Further, it is unlikely that people can significantly reduce their exposure to aluminum through such measures as avoiding aluminum-containing cookware, foil, beverage cans, medications and other products. Even if aluminum were clearly implicated in Alzheimer’s, these routes of exposure account for only a small percentage of the average person’s intake.


I've got another source on this -- my daughter, who has worked in 2 of the top US research labs on Alzheimer's in the past few years. And we've had long discussions about the "elevated number" and enviro issues. And there's a LOT of theories. But not a lot of "settled or "consensus" science on this theory about metals.

Not even CONSENSUS science at this point. Not likely to BE SETTLED science in the near future.

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Wow. Electron Microscope pix. How cool.. Still -- the increase from cooking meats is very dependent of the spicing, time, temperature, acidity of the marinade or sauces. And that SAME paper shows that MOST of the results only doubled or tripled the NATURAL aluminum content of the food. So HOW MUCH you ate of a marinated steak NOT cooked on foil -- could outweigh a smaller portion cooked on foil. So what? Until you have a CONNECTION to a specific med condition -- the caution should be for folks on constant dialysis -- with no natural kidney function. And those folks have a whole ENCYCLOPEDIA of stuff to worry about already..

Hey when I hit 90 like Grandma I'd like to have as much as possible in the brain still working. She used aluminum pans her whole life but ate her own canned food etc... SO very healthy but dementia set in early.

Same with both of my grandmother's. Neither had dementia and died at ages 93 and 101. I guess if they had not canned or used foil, they would have lived on to what? At least 94 and 102?? LOL
We have to use common sense.

 

[PredFan]

Aluminum foil, which was first introduced in the early 1900s, is currently one of the most commonly used kitchen items. It is extremely versatile too, and is used for cooking, wrapping, and even for treating some common heath issues. However, the problem with this kitchen item is its neurotoxic nature, which negatively affects the brain function and it was even found to trigger the onset of Alzheimer`s disease. As explained by medical expert, exposure to this metal may lead to mental decline and loss of memory, balance, bodily control, and coordination.
Doctors Are Now Warning: If You Use Aluminum Foil, Stop It Or Face Deadly Consequences
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

or you can not believe it and think it's all a bunch of bs and keep right on using it so in ten years you can have your Doctor tell you , you are so ill because it's genetic.

That is old news and has been debunked.

Yeah that's why it is in the European medical journal. Let me guess SNOPES debunked it LMFAO

I do t remember who debunked it, scientists I suppose. You might be too young but I'm old enough to remember when there was a big scare about aluminum pots and pans and aluminum foil being linked to Alzheimer's. The reason they linked it because scientists noticed an unusual amount of aluminum in the brains of Alzheimer's patients. After a lot of further testing they couldn't repeat the results or discover a link to aluminum used in cooking. Just don't sprinkle powdered aluminum on your food.

 

[RodISHI]

Unsettled science still doesn't mean that all theories have equal validity. This is more in the category of accepted science, meaning the leading authorities are comfortable with the finding even if every potential aspect is not, and possibly will never be known.

And "what finding" would that be? Especially, if there's no effort to establish min safe exposure levels or QUANTIFY the exact risk for Alzheimers and the other "postulated" outcomes?

No findings -- no "accepted" science. Just gathering empirical evidence on "causality" and attempting to identify the possible "vector sources" for the theory.

Did ya go the WebMD site? Probably not..

Controversial Claims About the Causes of Alzheimer's Disease

One of the most publicized and controversial theories concerns aluminum, which became a suspect in Alzheimer's disease when researchers found traces of this metal in the brains of patients with Alzheimer's disease. Many studies since then have either not been able to confirm this finding or have had questionable results.

Aluminum does turn up in higher amounts than normal in some autopsy studies of Alzheimer's patients, but not in all. Further doubt about the importance of aluminum stems from the possibility that the aluminum found in some studies did not all come from the brain tissues being studied. Instead, some could have come from the special substances used in the laboratory to study brain tissue.

Aluminum is a common element in the Earth's crust and is found in small amounts in numerous household products and in many foods. As a result, there have been fears that aluminum in the diet or absorbed in other ways could be a factor in Alzheimer's. One study found that people who used antiperspirants and antacids containing aluminum had a higher risk of developing Alzheimer's. Others have also reported an association between aluminum exposure and Alzheimer's disease.

On the other hand, various studies have found that groups of people exposed to high levels of aluminum do not have an increased risk. Moreover, aluminum in cooking utensils does not get into food, and the aluminum that does occur naturally in some foods, such as potatoes, is not absorbed well by the body. On the whole, scientists can say only that it is still uncertain whether exposure to aluminum plays a role in Alzheimer's disease.

http://www.alz.org/alzwa/documents/alzwa_resource_ad_fs_aluminum.pdf

Does aluminum play a role in causing
Alzheimer’s disease?
Thinking about whether aluminum plays any role in
Alzheimer’s disease has evolved over the 40 years that
researchers have been exploring this question. The theory
that aluminum might be involved emerged in the 1960s
after scientists discovered that exposing rabbits’ brains to
aluminum caused nerve cell damage with some similarity to
Alzheimer pathology. Physicians also noted that people
undergoing long-term dialysis sometimes develop a nonAlzheimer
form of dementia caused by a buildup of
aluminum in the bloodstream. These observations raised
the specter that aluminum might be one of the first
substances implicated in triggering Alzheimer’s.
However, studies since then have failed to document a
clear role for aluminum in causing Alzheimer’s. Every
perspective from which researchers have explored the
question has yielded contradictory data. For virtually every
study suggesting that aluminum may be linked to
Alzheimer’s, there is another study failing to confirm
those results.
The vast majority of mainstream scientists now believe that
if aluminum plays any role at all in Alzheimer’s, that role is
small. If aluminum exposure had a major impact on risk,
scientists would have gained a clearer picture of its
involvement over the decades that they have been studying
the issue, even though certain factors hamper research. One
such issue lies in the widespread occurrence of both
aluminum and Alzheimer’s, which complicates the effort to
characterize their relationship. Aluminum is Earth’s third
most common element after oxygen and silicon, and
Alzheimer’s occurs frequently in older adults.

.........
Further, it is unlikely that people can significantly reduce their exposure to aluminum through such measures as avoiding aluminum-containing cookware, foil, beverage cans, medications and other products. Even if aluminum were clearly implicated in Alzheimer’s, these routes of exposure account for only a small percentage of the average person’s intake.


I've got another source on this -- my daughter, who has worked in 2 of the top US research labs on Alzheimer's in the past few years. And we've had long discussions about the "elevated number" and enviro issues. And there's a LOT of theories. But not a lot of "settled or "consensus" science on this theory about metals.

Not even CONSENSUS science at this point. Not likely to BE SETTLED science in the near future.

View attachment 119830


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View attachment 119832

Wow. Electron Microscope pix. How cool.. Still -- the increase from cooking meats is very dependent of the spicing, time, temperature, acidity of the marinade or sauces. And that SAME paper shows that MOST of the results only doubled or tripled the NATURAL aluminum content of the food. So HOW MUCH you ate of a marinated steak NOT cooked on foil -- could outweigh a smaller portion cooked on foil. So what? Until you have a CONNECTION to a specific med condition -- the caution should be for folks on constant dialysis -- with no natural kidney function. And those folks have a whole ENCYCLOPEDIA of stuff to worry about already..

Hey when I hit 90 like Grandma I'd like to have as much as possible in the brain still working. She used aluminum pans her whole life but ate her own canned food etc... SO very healthy but dementia set in early.

Same with both of my grandmother's. Neither had dementia and died at ages 93 and 101. I guess if they had not canned or used foil, they would have lived on to what? At least 94 and 102?? LOL
We have to use common sense.

Canned food in glass jars are not a hazard. Those old Aluminum pans though in the homes of a lot elderly people you can see how much they have warn over the years. They were handy and lightweight so a lot of people used them. People are free to use whatever they like but if something can or even has a possibility of adding another factor to degradation of ones health I would think they have the right to know that.

 

[flacaltenn]

And yet people can't put two and two together when we look at the Amish who barely have any cancer rates among them, they don't get vaccinated, and they don't use plastics.

Overall cancer rates in this population were 60 percent of the age-adjusted rate for Ohio and 56 percent of the national rate. The incidence of tobacco-related cancers in the Amish adults was 37 percent of the rate for Ohio adults, and the incidence of non-tobacco-related cancer was 72 percent.
Amish Have Lower Rates Of Cancer, Ohio State Study Shows ...
internalmedicine.osu.edu/nephrology/article.cfm?id=5307

So why?? Even tho the 72% of non-tobacco cancers is not particularly impressive..

Amish have low cancer rate, but why?

The Amish lifestyle is different, for one. They eat a lot of food that they grow or raise and rarely consume processed foods. They tend to get more physical activity, and even though they sometimes are overweight, obesity is rare, she said.

Andy Yoder, a second-year Ohio State medical student who grew up in an Amish home in Sugarcreek, said he wonders about the role of stress.

“They all have their families and friends close by, which is helpful.”

Another difference worth exploring is that Amish people live in rural areas and have less exposure to pollutants than people who live in cities, Yoder said.

There's ALWAYS more than one possible theory...


Then there are the genetic mysteries that might contribute to lower cancer incidence. That’s something Westman and others would love to know more about, but “that is a statistical genetic nightmare.”

 

[RodISHI]

Aluminum foil, which was first introduced in the early 1900s, is currently one of the most commonly used kitchen items. It is extremely versatile too, and is used for cooking, wrapping, and even for treating some common heath issues. However, the problem with this kitchen item is its neurotoxic nature, which negatively affects the brain function and it was even found to trigger the onset of Alzheimer`s disease. As explained by medical expert, exposure to this metal may lead to mental decline and loss of memory, balance, bodily control, and coordination.
Doctors Are Now Warning: If You Use Aluminum Foil, Stop It Or Face Deadly Consequences
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

or you can not believe it and think it's all a bunch of bs and keep right on using it so in ten years you can have your Doctor tell you , you are so ill because it's genetic.

That is old news and has been debunked.

Yeah that's why it is in the European medical journal. Let me guess SNOPES debunked it LMFAO

I do t remember who debunked it, scientists I suppose. You might be too young but I'm old enough to remember when there was a big scare about aluminum pots and pans and aluminum foil being linked to Alzheimer's. The reason they linked it because scientists noticed an unusual amount of aluminum in the brains of Alzheimer's patients. After a lot of further testing they couldn't repeat the results or discover a link to aluminum used in cooking. Just don't sprinkle powdered aluminum on your food.

Its also in some baking powder. I personally use Aluminum free baking powder. It only cost a few cents more.

 

[PredFan]

There's a couple of dozen posts on Facebook going around now about the fear that slow cookers are giving us all lead poison. OMG OMG OMG OMG!!! Apparently according to the click bait, the lead seeps out of the ceramic pot during those long cooks. You can buy test tools from hardware stores and someone has. Showed no lead at all.

Doubtless, this aluminum thing will go away again.

 

[BULLDOG]

Aluminum foil, which was first introduced in the early 1900s, is currently one of the most commonly used kitchen items. It is extremely versatile too, and is used for cooking, wrapping, and even for treating some common heath issues. However, the problem with this kitchen item is its neurotoxic nature, which negatively affects the brain function and it was even found to trigger the onset of Alzheimer`s disease. As explained by medical expert, exposure to this metal may lead to mental decline and loss of memory, balance, bodily control, and coordination.
Doctors Are Now Warning: If You Use Aluminum Foil, Stop It Or Face Deadly Consequences
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

or you can not believe it and think it's all a bunch of bs and keep right on using it so in ten years you can have your Doctor tell you , you are so ill because it's genetic.

Of course, I'll change immediately. Because a website like FAITH PANDA is a trusted source of cutting edge medical research and did NOT try to hack my computer while I went to view your link..

STUPIDITY maybe if you stop using the foil and teflon pans you might grow some of that brain back..

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Turns out you shouldn't be using aluminium foil on the barbecue

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Comparison of the regional distribution of transferrin receptors and aluminium in the forebrain of chronic renal dialysis patients. - PubMed - NCBI

Nawww. Don't think it's stupidity in my case. More CURIOUS and ANALYTICAL than a member of the easily panicked herd.

Let's start here -- The study you produced was done on people with kidneys SO FAR GONE that they required "chronic dialysis". So, that's not a measure of how much Alum. sticks around from ingestion. Which maybe in the range of 1% or less. And as it turns out -- the ONLY verifiable Alzheimer deaths due to "aluminum poisoning" are less than 5. One a man who WORKED in a hazardous Alum dust enviro. One a women who's municipal water supply had HIGH levels of NATURALLY occurring ALum..

So -- the "foil" risk is just a SMALL FRACTION of the concerns when considering how the body inhales or digests FOOD PRODUCTS containing aluminum. For instance, if you are a cook or a baker -- and I am --- I KNOW that many leavening agents show Alum components right on the damn pkg. To wit....

Aluminium content of selected foods and food products
Aluminium is the third most abundant element in the earth's crust and is therefore a natural component of drinking water and foodstuffs and is a component of many manufactured materials. Exposure of the human body to aluminium may be by food [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8] including drinking water, fruit juices wine and beer [9, 10, 11], articles of daily use that are made of aluminium, cosmetics and pharmaceuticals such as local therapeutic agents, anti-diarrhoeal drugs or antacids. Increased aluminium exposure can be compensated for by excretion via intestines and normal, healthy kidneys. Kidney insufficiency was shown to result in increased aluminium concentrations in the kidneys of dialysis patients, possibly resulting from dialysis fluids that may contain substantial concentrations of aluminium [12].

For many years, aluminium was not considered a health threat because of its relatively low bioavailability. In 1965, however, animal experiments suggested a possible connection between aluminium and Alzheimer's disease, whereby aluminium salts were injected directly into rabbit brain where they caused tissue alterations (for a review see [13]). Increased aluminium concentrations were found in the brains of deceased Alzheimer's patients. Other studies, however, have been unable to find definite indications supporting the hypothesis that aluminium plays a causative role in Alzheimer's disease or causes pathological alterations in vivo in the species studied [14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20].

In the 1970s, the issue of toxicity of aluminium gained importance after Berlyne et al. (1970) reported on increased aluminium concentrations in the serum of nephropathic persons [21]. The findings of Alfrey et al. [22] increased concerns about an increased oral intake of aluminium since these findings were the first to establish a connection between neurologic diseases of dialysis patients and an increased intake of aluminium in the organism. In a more recent study aluminium is also discussed as as an endocrine disruptor in female Nile Tilapia (Oreochromis niloticus) [23].

Food is unquestionably the main source of aluminium intake, whereby the source is considered either primary or secondary. The primary content is the natural content of food caused by uptake from the geologic surrounding during growth and is for all practical purposes unavoidable. The secondary content is the primary content plus any possible contamination from aluminium articles that come into contact with food and additives as well as veterinary drugs, fertilisers and the air. Table 1 shows the main, permissible secondary aluminium sources that may lead to an aluminium accumulation in food.

Check out the FOOD table in that article to see how "herbal teas" cocoa powder, baked goods and other common foods, food additives, vaccines, and enviro exposure to common stuff --- BESIDES Alum foil is actually a part of this concern..

Then cruise over to WebMd (aluminum toxicity Alzheimers) and read about all the studies that DID NOT SHOW aluminum toxicity as a suspect cause...

It's "unsettled science" --- As MOST of science is..

Unsettled science still doesn't mean that all theories have equal validity. This is more in the category of accepted science, meaning the leading authorities are comfortable with the finding even if every potential aspect is not, and possibly will never be known.

And "what finding" would that be? Especially, if there's no effort to establish min safe exposure levels or QUANTIFY the exact risk for Alzheimers and the other "postulated" outcomes?

No findings -- no "accepted" science. Just gathering empirical evidence on "causality" and attempting to identify the possible "vector sources" for the theory.

Did ya go the WebMD site? Probably not..

Controversial Claims About the Causes of Alzheimer's Disease

One of the most publicized and controversial theories concerns aluminum, which became a suspect in Alzheimer's disease when researchers found traces of this metal in the brains of patients with Alzheimer's disease. Many studies since then have either not been able to confirm this finding or have had questionable results.

Aluminum does turn up in higher amounts than normal in some autopsy studies of Alzheimer's patients, but not in all. Further doubt about the importance of aluminum stems from the possibility that the aluminum found in some studies did not all come from the brain tissues being studied. Instead, some could have come from the special substances used in the laboratory to study brain tissue.

Aluminum is a common element in the Earth's crust and is found in small amounts in numerous household products and in many foods. As a result, there have been fears that aluminum in the diet or absorbed in other ways could be a factor in Alzheimer's. One study found that people who used antiperspirants and antacids containing aluminum had a higher risk of developing Alzheimer's. Others have also reported an association between aluminum exposure and Alzheimer's disease.

On the other hand, various studies have found that groups of people exposed to high levels of aluminum do not have an increased risk. Moreover, aluminum in cooking utensils does not get into food, and the aluminum that does occur naturally in some foods, such as potatoes, is not absorbed well by the body. On the whole, scientists can say only that it is still uncertain whether exposure to aluminum plays a role in Alzheimer's disease.

http://www.alz.org/alzwa/documents/alzwa_resource_ad_fs_aluminum.pdf

Does aluminum play a role in causing
Alzheimer’s disease?
Thinking about whether aluminum plays any role in
Alzheimer’s disease has evolved over the 40 years that
researchers have been exploring this question. The theory
that aluminum might be involved emerged in the 1960s
after scientists discovered that exposing rabbits’ brains to
aluminum caused nerve cell damage with some similarity to
Alzheimer pathology. Physicians also noted that people
undergoing long-term dialysis sometimes develop a nonAlzheimer
form of dementia caused by a buildup of
aluminum in the bloodstream. These observations raised
the specter that aluminum might be one of the first
substances implicated in triggering Alzheimer’s.
However, studies since then have failed to document a
clear role for aluminum in causing Alzheimer’s. Every
perspective from which researchers have explored the
question has yielded contradictory data. For virtually every
study suggesting that aluminum may be linked to
Alzheimer’s, there is another study failing to confirm
those results.
The vast majority of mainstream scientists now believe that
if aluminum plays any role at all in Alzheimer’s, that role is
small. If aluminum exposure had a major impact on risk,
scientists would have gained a clearer picture of its
involvement over the decades that they have been studying
the issue, even though certain factors hamper research. One
such issue lies in the widespread occurrence of both
aluminum and Alzheimer’s, which complicates the effort to
characterize their relationship. Aluminum is Earth’s third
most common element after oxygen and silicon, and
Alzheimer’s occurs frequently in older adults.

.........
Further, it is unlikely that people can significantly reduce their exposure to aluminum through such measures as avoiding aluminum-containing cookware, foil, beverage cans, medications and other products. Even if aluminum were clearly implicated in Alzheimer’s, these routes of exposure account for only a small percentage of the average person’s intake.


I've got another source on this -- my daughter, who has worked in 2 of the top US research labs on Alzheimer's in the past few years. And we've had long discussions about the "elevated number" and enviro issues. And there's a LOT of theories. But not a lot of "settled or "consensus" science on this theory about metals.

Not even CONSENSUS science at this point. Not likely to BE SETTLED science in the near future.

If you say so, but that means you have to quit wearing your tinfoil hat.