Do you trust Muslims?

[GHook93]

What percentage of the 1.5 billion muslims world wide fall into this catagory...

Depends on the country the Muslim is in. Pakistan, Afghanistan, Somolia, Yemen, Saudi Arabia, Oman, Libya, Algeria, the Sudan probably have higher percentages of Islamist then ones in the West. In Western Europe I would say 20% are full on Islamist, 40% are moderates acting who side with the Islamists, 30% are secular moderates and 10% are non-religious utlra-leftists!

what percentage of moderate muslims fall into this here in the states?

American Muslims are different. Both because of size and America is just a better place to live and raise a family.
10% are full on Islamist, 40% are moderates acting who side with the Islamists, 35% are secular moderates and 15% are non-religious utlra-leftists!

 

[GHook93]

I trust Muslims, I don't see why not.

I don't trust the Radicals, exactly Kat said.


Just like I don't trust the Westboro Baptist Church.. but that doesn't mean I don't trust Christians.

Before someone responds with this, I will. The Westboro Baptist Church doesn't have the MONEY that extremist Islamic organizations have, therefore you can trust Christians and not trust Muslims.

Doesn't make it any less worse.

They go to Military Funerals and protest, Isn't that just horrible? They have kids there holding signs that they have no idea or are even capable of knowing.

Sure, the Muslim Extremists might have the ability to kill people, it doesn't make my point any less wrong.

And Why wouldn't I trust muslims? I know a few muslims and all the ones I know are actually good people and are more of the Progressive muslims not like the middle ages crazy jihad muslims.

The difference is this. You ask a so called Moderate Muslim, like the 9/11 Mosque Iman, if Hamas, Hezbollah, Al Qaeda or the Taliban are terrorist organizations and they will give a you scripted answer like "I'm not a politician, that is for politicians to decide!" In other words the so called moderates don't go off killing or beating people, but they side with the ones doing this as fellow Muslims.

You ask a Christian if the Westboro Protesters are nutjobs and scumbag assholes. And the Christian will say they are fucking insane asshole pieces of shit worthy of universal hatred! The Christian won't side with them as fellow Christians!

 

[Ravi]

i left my wallet on the counter of the gas station yesterday the paki guy said "hey buddy you forget your wallet" he did not try ti kill me or steal my freedoms,he simply let me know I forgot my wallet..he works there with his daughter, she wears and head cover but is really pretty and smiles a lot..her and her father seem very close

Quit being reasonable.

 

[Ravi]

I trust some individual Muslim and Arabs I know. But as a whole, I don't trust them. I see what is happening across Europe and think it would be a shame if that give of disregard was brought to the States.

However, I trust Muslims more then I do leftist! I think leftist either straight out lie to your face or are so stupid, intolerant and ignorant that they have no idea what they are screaming about!

NOTE: I do think American Muslims are different. Many embrace America, but a few very very very bad apples ruin it for the bunch!

Ghook, I've been meaning to ask you. What is your native language?

 

[Quantum Windbag]

The majority of Muslims don't support Islamic extremism, but are certainly indifferent to it, the rest are extremists save the Secular Muslims that are against Islamic extremism (and support Israel's right to exist but want a secular Israel alongside a secular Palestine) and are being persecuted/killed in Islamic nations because they want to introduce western values to the middle east. Liberals don't see this reality, and just want to hate Jews and western society with the same xenophobia and hatred they have had since Marx's time (Marx being an rampant anti-Semite).

Marxist and Socialist Anti-Semitism and Anti-Zionism
MARX AND ANTI-SEMITISM

Until the majority of Muslims speak out against extremism we are all on danger. There are two ways that we can have peace with Islam, and neither is pretty. I would prefer that Muslims work to actively reform Islam and cleanse the extremists from their ranks, because the only alternative is that we work to actively eliminate Islam as a religion. Unfortunately, until we stop accepting Islam as a religion of peace the second is more likely that the first.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

Do you really want me to link you to an AMERICAN who killed his wife here in the states who was christian? Really?

Feel free. As I never said Christians did not kill people, even their wives, it will prove nothing. However, I did provide an example of a "Moderate Muslim" who beheaded someone right here in the US, which you actually challenged someone to do. I think that means I proved you wrong.

I do portray muslims in a positive way. Fuck everyone in here who says all muslims are bad. You sound like fucking racists back in the 60's towards blacks.

Do you always take being wrong so personally?

I never said you did not portray Muslims positively. What I pointed out was that a Muslim who wanted to portray Muslims in a positive light actually beheaded his wife because she wanted a divorce. That is a total failure of his stated goal.

Exactly how does that have anything to do with you again? Is your ego so large that you think he did this to make you look bad? If so, I can tell you categorically, you do not need his help to look like a fool.

Are you going to start buring down Mosques like you did churches in Burmingham now? The ignorance of you fucking people astounds me.

I am pretty sure that is slander, and that if I choose to make an issue of it I can force the admin here to divulge your IP so I can sue you. Lucky for you I never get into a battle of wits with an unarmed person.

You did this shit towards the Japanese during WW2. You did this shit towards blacks for a long time. Your doing this now with Hispanics.

More slander. I was not even alive during WWII. Blaming me for anything that happened then is completely ignorant.

Who is next? Jews? Indians? Notice how you wont do this towards anyone doing horrible crimes in the name of Christianity. I wonder why this is? Is it because it hits home with you?

Suffer from paranoid delusions very much? I have publicly support Israel, never spoke against Indians, and do not care if you insult Christianity. Nor do I support anyone's crimes, be they Christian, Jew, Hindu, or Muslim. Exactly where are you getting all of this from?

When you say ALL this or that, YOU ARE WRONG. Period.

Say all what?

Oh and god bless.

If He does it will have nothing to do with you.

 

[Kalam]

Until the majority of Muslims speak out against extremism we are all on danger. There are two ways that we can have peace with Islam, and neither is pretty. I would prefer that Muslims work to actively reform Islam and cleanse the extremists from their ranks, because the only alternative is that we work to actively eliminate Islam as a religion. Unfortunately, until we stop accepting Islam as a religion of peace the second is more likely that the first.

The first move is yours. Make it count...

 

[Quantum Windbag]

Calling a black MAN a boy is racist. It comes from our past here in the states. You know this, you did it but now you are being a pussy about it.

I like racists who are straight and to the point about their racism, not ones who are pussies and try to weasel out of it.

Pussy. I am 47 years old, black and you called me a boy. I know you knew I was black but you did it anyway.

Don't pussy out punk, man up. Be a the racist you know you are. Be proud.

You are not a black man just because you claim to be one on the internet. That leaves anyone free to call you boy without being a racist, especially when you choose to look like a nazi rather than a human being.

Hey skippy. Here is the thing. I worked with a members wife back in my flying navy days. She KNOWS me personally. That is beyond this bulletin board. I will talk to him to make sure he is still good with his name being put here......so there ya go. (sticks my tongue out at you...)

Fucking Jethrow.

Now man up, pussy.

I don't know her, or that member, so their word means nothing to me. If you have a problem with your race being black and me not accepting it just because you, and everyone else on this board, says so, it has nothing to do with me. I do think it is sad that you are that insecure, but I do not care.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

Until the majority of Muslims speak out against extremism we are all on danger. There are two ways that we can have peace with Islam, and neither is pretty. I would prefer that Muslims work to actively reform Islam and cleanse the extremists from their ranks, because the only alternative is that we work to actively eliminate Islam as a religion. Unfortunately, until we stop accepting Islam as a religion of peace the second is more likely that the first.

The first move is yours. Make it count...

No genius, the first move is yours. We will take the last one. If you do not clean your house we will nuke it.

 

[Kalam]

Until the majority of Muslims speak out against extremism we are all on danger. There are two ways that we can have peace with Islam, and neither is pretty. I would prefer that Muslims work to actively reform Islam and cleanse the extremists from their ranks, because the only alternative is that we work to actively eliminate Islam as a religion. Unfortunately, until we stop accepting Islam as a religion of peace the second is more likely that the first.

The first move is yours. Make it count...

No genius, the first move is yours. We will take the last one. If you do not clean your house we will nuke it.

Unless you plan on nuking most of the world, I hope you're prepared for some sort of backlash.

It's difficult for us to clean a house that you're bombing. Stay out of our way and you won't be bothered.

 

[syrenn]

Stay out of our way and you won't be bothered.

And that is a huge part of the problem. Very borg like mentality: Resistance is futile. We will assimilate you. You will become one of us.

 

[8537]

Until the majority of Muslims speak out against extremism we are all on danger. There are two ways that we can have peace with Islam, and neither is pretty. I would prefer that Muslims work to actively reform Islam and cleanse the extremists from their ranks, because the only alternative is that we work to actively eliminate Islam as a religion. Unfortunately, until we stop accepting Islam as a religion of peace the second is more likely that the first.

The first move is yours. Make it count...

No genius, the first move is yours. We will take the last one. If you do not clean your house we will nuke it.

It's a damn good thing no one like you will ever have power beyond the local dog poop scooper.

 

[8537]

Keywords used to find this page:

"do you trust a ****** military"

That should tell ya something about this thread.

 

[Kalam]

And that is a huge part of the problem. Very borg like mentality: Resistance is futile. We will assimilate you. You will become one of us.

Wanting freedom from external interference is "borg like"?

No, I'm afraid that your mentality is far more problematic. I find it interesting that you found my post more worthy of criticism than the post about eliminating Islam.

 

[Hister]

And that is a huge part of the problem. Very borg like mentality: Resistance is futile. We will assimilate you. You will become one of us.

Wanting freedom from external interference is "borg like"?

No, I'm afraid that your mentality is far more problematic. I find it interesting that you found my post more worthy of criticism than the post about eliminating Islam.

I bet Kalam doesn't even trust mooslums.

 

[Zona]

What percentage of the 1.5 billion muslims world wide fall into this catagory...

Depends on the country the Muslim is in. Pakistan, Afghanistan, Somolia, Yemen, Saudi Arabia, Oman, Libya, Algeria, the Sudan probably have higher percentages of Islamist then ones in the West. In Western Europe I would say 20% are full on Islamist, 40% are moderates acting who side with the Islamists, 30% are secular moderates and 10% are non-religious utlra-leftists!

what percentage of moderate muslims fall into this here in the states?

American Muslims are different. Both because of size and America is just a better place to live and raise a family.
10% are full on Islamist, 40% are moderates acting who side with the Islamists, 35% are secular moderates and 15% are non-religious utlra-leftists!

link? especially the ones that say 40% are "full on islamist" here in the states.

 

[Hister]

Do you trust Muslims?

I bet Kalam doesn't even trust mooslums.

 

[Toro]

I trust the average Muslim more than I trust the average bigot spewing vitriol towards Muslims.

 

[Hister]

I trust the average Muslim more than I trust the average bigot spewing vitriol towards Muslims.

Because your "average bigot" has flown so many jumbo jets into your buildings, tried to blow up Times Square...

Btw, mooslums aren't bigots, they just want to kill you.

 

[Zona]

Do you really want me to link you to an AMERICAN who killed his wife here in the states who was christian? Really?

Feel free. As I never said Christians did not kill people, even their wives, it will prove nothing. However, I did provide an example of a "Moderate Muslim" who beheaded someone right here in the US, which you actually challenged someone to do. I think that means I proved you wrong.

I do portray muslims in a positive way. Fuck everyone in here who says all muslims are bad. You sound like fucking racists back in the 60's towards blacks.

Do you always take being wrong so personally?

I never said you did not portray Muslims positively. What I pointed out was that a Muslim who wanted to portray Muslims in a positive light actually beheaded his wife because she wanted a divorce. That is a total failure of his stated goal.

Exactly how does that have anything to do with you again? Is your ego so large that you think he did this to make you look bad? If so, I can tell you categorically, you do not need his help to look like a fool.



I am pretty sure that is slander, and that if I choose to make an issue of it I can force the admin here to divulge your IP so I can sue you. Lucky for you I never get into a battle of wits with an unarmed person.

Man up bitch....go for it...(my ed)
More slander. I was not even alive during WWII. Blaming me for anything that happened then is completely ignorant.



Suffer from paranoid delusions very much? I have publicly support Israel, never spoke against Indians, and do not care if you insult Christianity. Nor do I support anyone's crimes, be they Christian, Jew, Hindu, or Muslim. Exactly where are you getting all of this from?

When you say ALL this or that, YOU ARE WRONG. Period.

Say all what?

Oh and god bless.

If He does it will have nothing to do with you.

Oh my god. I am so sorry. Please do not sue me for slander. I am really worried now.


Fuck off ass. Sue all the fuck you want internet tough guy lawyer.

Oh and god bless.