Do we need to privatize the VA?

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    Tricare going up would seem to indicate that privatization is needed to keep the costs down.
     
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    NO. It has NOT worked elsewhere. EXAMPLE: I better not post it, but Florida has PRIVATIZED some state agencies. No decrease in costs due to more delay in services, which add to the cost.
     
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    No, the government can do the job cheaper. And in reality, the veterans don't want privatized care. They see the rest of us getting treated like sheep and any time someone gets serious about changing the VA, the veteran groups swing into action and nip it in the bud.

    I have worked for contract companies in the past and was working for one when Obama's recession hit. They lost government contracts left and right because states no longer were collecting enough taxes to afford them.
     
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    Privatizing the VA turns the interest of caring for Veterans into an economic one. Companies like Lockheed and Northrop Grunman, as much as they love to play the patriotic card, still do everything they can to make money off of the government. If we turn the VA over to a private company, then you will see this replicated there. Instead of being focused on providing the most effective care, you will see a focus on being profitable. I am a very strong proponent of privatization in most other areas, but the care of our Veterans is much to important for it to be left in the hands of a privately owned corporation.
    That being said, the VA does, and should continue too, make use of the private sector in order to provide the best possible care to Veterans. This can come in the form of partnerships with various organizations, or working hand in hand with private medical facilities, as long as the overall control stays with the government.
     
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    Tricare is a DOD program.

    DOD and VA are two different agencies.
     
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    This doesn't even make any fucking sense
     
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    I can't see where that would help.The VA is simply overloaded and under staffed; add in the necessary accountability, and you get what we have-a bureaucratic system that is often maddeningly slow and unresponsive, but is doing the best it can with the resources it has. Privatizing it isn't going to change that aspect of it (which is the biggest complaint I hear), and might well drive up costs in the short run. As it is, the VA works better than a lot of things government tries to do.
     
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    I spent 15 1/2 years as a County Director and a Deputy State Director of Veterans' Affairs.

    The best VA Hospitals have affiliations with outstanding Private Teaching Hospitals.
    NYU Medical Center( NYUMC) is among the 5 best hospitals in the USA. They are affiliated with the Manhattan and Brooklyn VA Hospitals. The NYU Medical Doctors that teach are at the top of their fields.

    NYUMC has advanced Medical Technology and will treat Veterans there when the need arises.

    Tampa VA Hospital is affiliated with the University of South Florida which is also a Teaching Hospital with advanced Medical Technology.

    The one thing that would help all VA hospitals would be to allow them to bill Medicare and keep the money.

    I helped in the writing of the original legislation. Thank God the chairs of the Veterans Committees in the House and Senate keep bringing it up, regardless of their political affiliation.
     
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    Your post is stupid. Outsourcing has not worked. You are about 20 years behind. Veterans don't WANT their care to be someone's 'economic' interest. A system that does not have to make a profit can provide services more easily than one that has to turn a profit at the end of the day.
     
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    They bill private insurance. I'm not sure if they bill Medicare. Likely no.

    The VA in Nashville is affiliated with Vanderbilt.
     

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