Do we agree that a fundamental difference between the right and the left is...

[Harpy Eagle]

and the result has been 23 trillion dollars in debt and climbing.

perhaps it is time for a change from that stupid way of voting...remember...when you vote for the lesser of two evils, they are still evil.

And if a fiscal conservative ran, you'd bash them and vote for someone else.

Nope, I voted for the only fiscal conservative that ran in the last 5 elections.

 

[impuretrash]

and the result has been 23 trillion dollars in debt and climbing.

perhaps it is time for a change from that stupid way of voting...remember...when you vote for the lesser of two evils, they are still evil.

And if a fiscal conservative ran, you'd bash them and vote for someone else.

Nope, I voted for the only fiscal conservative that ran in the last 5 elections.

"Fiscal conservatives" are in reality, internationalists who will sell anything for a buck and that includes their own nation. That's extremely not conservative.

 

[Pogo]

...what the role of government should be in society? Is it accurate to say that left-wing ideology supports more government programs, more government management/oversight and higher taxes wherein right-wing ideology supports having LESS of those things?

Holy shit REALLY?

This was why Buttsoiler ("Rottweiler") left the board in shame and had to change his name to come back --- he tried to sell the mendacious malarkey that the difference between 'right' and 'left' is 'how big the government is".

NO that's NOT what it means AT ALL so no we absolutely DO NOT agree. This is a contemporary fantasy born of the Dumb-Down set designed to obscure political realities.

 

[Third Party]

The right claims to want less of those things, but they don't practice it.

We have less people on food stamps.

 

[Norman]

and the result has been 23 trillion dollars in debt and climbing.

perhaps it is time for a change from that stupid way of voting...remember...when you vote for the lesser of two evils, they are still evil.

And if a fiscal conservative ran, you'd bash them and vote for someone else.

Nope, I voted for the only fiscal conservative that ran in the last 5 elections.

"Fiscal conservatives" are in reality, internationalists who will sell anything for a buck and that includes their own nation. That's extremely not conservative.

These conservatives did not even conserve the bathroom. They are at best, total failures.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

and the result has been 23 trillion dollars in debt and climbing.

perhaps it is time for a change from that stupid way of voting...remember...when you vote for the lesser of two evils, they are still evil.

And if a fiscal conservative ran, you'd bash them and vote for someone else.

Nope, I voted for the only fiscal conservative that ran in the last 5 elections.

"Fiscal conservatives" are in reality, internationalists who will sell anything for a buck and that includes their own nation. That's extremely not conservative.

that makes no sense at all

 

[K9Buck]

Nope. We wouldn't have the debt we currently do if that were true.

So it's your view that the right and the left agree on how many social programs we should have and how much taxes we should pay to support them?

I'm not arguing that the right is fiscally conservative. I am arguing that they generally support less government and less government spending and taxation.

 

[Norman]

and the result has been 23 trillion dollars in debt and climbing.

perhaps it is time for a change from that stupid way of voting...remember...when you vote for the lesser of two evils, they are still evil.

And if a fiscal conservative ran, you'd bash them and vote for someone else.

Nope, I voted for the only fiscal conservative that ran in the last 5 elections.

"Fiscal conservatives" are in reality, internationalists who will sell anything for a buck and that includes their own nation. That's extremely not conservative.

that makes no sense at all

They did conserve the big banks.

The fiscal balance? Not so much...

 

[K9Buck]

...75% of these people will still worship the ground he walks on

For the record, I don't "worship the ground he walks on". I voted for him because I felt that the standard of living of average Americans like me would fare better under him than under Hillary. Remind me again. How many tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands of Syrians did Hillary want the average American to have to subsidize so that they could live here?

 

[K9Buck]

...we have added 3.09 trillion dollars to the debt...

You blame the right for massive government spending, but give the left a pass. Why?

 

[bripat9643]

...what the role of government should be in society? Is it accurate to say that left-wing ideology supports more government programs, more government management/oversight and higher taxes wherein right-wing ideology supports having LESS of those things?

The left are servile, and can't wait to have their assholes widened. The right believes in freedom.

 

[bripat9643]

...we have added 3.09 trillion dollars to the debt...

You blame the right for massive government spending, but give the left a pass. Why?

Because he's a leftist.

 

[K9Buck]

Nope, I voted for the only fiscal conservative that ran in the last 5 elections.

Yea? Who'd you vote for, yourself?

 

[Old Man Grumbles]

The difference is that they each have a path they want to follow to end up at the same place and the "we the people" be damned.

 

[impuretrash]

and the result has been 23 trillion dollars in debt and climbing.

perhaps it is time for a change from that stupid way of voting...remember...when you vote for the lesser of two evils, they are still evil.

And if a fiscal conservative ran, you'd bash them and vote for someone else.

Nope, I voted for the only fiscal conservative that ran in the last 5 elections.

"Fiscal conservatives" are in reality, internationalists who will sell anything for a buck and that includes their own nation. That's extremely not conservative.

that makes no sense at all

The mainstream so-called "conservative" GOP's number 1 priority has always been about money and the love of it. They only ever payed lip service to protecting family values. GOP won't even use that term anymore but boy do they love to talk about how tolerant towards LGBTQ we are.

 

[Billiejeens]

...what the role of government should be in society? Is it accurate to say that left-wing ideology supports more government programs, more government management/oversight and higher taxes wherein right-wing ideology supports having LESS of those things?

NO.
The right makes lotsa noise about that stuff but doesn't really want it.

What the right wants is control of everyone and everything under the thumb a few wealthy individuals and companies.

The left wants freedom. Freedom to be who they want, freedom to love who they want, freedom from the perils of wealth inequality including but not limited to healthcare, housing, and enough to eat...

You get the picture.

I'd like the freedom to get a plastic straw and not step in human shit on the sidewalk in California.

How's that working out?

See "wealth inequality*.

I can't help.you with the plastic straw.

You suffer from information inequality

 

[Billiejeens]

and the result has been 23 trillion dollars in debt and climbing.

perhaps it is time for a change from that stupid way of voting...remember...when you vote for the lesser of two evils, they are still evil.

And if a fiscal conservative ran, you'd bash them and vote for someone else.

Nope, I voted for the only fiscal conservative that ran in the last 5 elections.

Who was that?

 

[Norman]

The difference is that they each have a path they want to follow to end up at the same place and the "we the people" be damned.

They have the hump and jump plan. Screw the people, take the honey, and leave to their private communities as the country burns.

 

[task0778]

and the result has been 23 trillion dollars in debt and climbing.

perhaps it is time for a change from that stupid way of voting...remember...when you vote for the lesser of two evils, they are still evil.

And if a fiscal conservative ran, you'd bash them and vote for someone else.

Nope, I voted for the only fiscal conservative that ran in the last 5 elections.

"Fiscal conservatives" are in reality, internationalists who will sell anything for a buck and that includes their own nation. That's extremely not conservative.

I don't know what the fuck you're talking about. A fiscal conservative wants less gov't deficit spending and less debt. They believe that the economy functions better without gov't intervention, and they support lower taxes and less regulations and free market capitalism.

 

[impuretrash]

and the result has been 23 trillion dollars in debt and climbing.

perhaps it is time for a change from that stupid way of voting...remember...when you vote for the lesser of two evils, they are still evil.

And if a fiscal conservative ran, you'd bash them and vote for someone else.

Nope, I voted for the only fiscal conservative that ran in the last 5 elections.

"Fiscal conservatives" are in reality, internationalists who will sell anything for a buck and that includes their own nation. That's extremely not conservative.

I don't know what the fuck you're talking about. A fiscal conservative wants less gov't deficit spending and less debt. They believe that the economy functions better without gov't intervention, and they support lower taxes and less regulations and free market capitalism.

Internet streaming services that provide hardcore pornography are free market capitalism, unrestrained. You like?