Do Republicans regret their Iraq fiasco?

[NYcarbineer]

What happened in Iraq:
Thousands of civilians killed by American action.
Thousands of American soldiers killed.
World wide loss of US prestige and influence due to the gross disregard of international law.
Massively damaging expenditures of treasure for no advantage to the US.
War criminals rewarded with fortunes.

Holy shit. So, you do wish saddam was in power murdering and torturing. He was just such an innocent person.

Dear God I hate them.

If it meant the thousands of Americans killed and wounded would be made whole again, and we'd get our trillions of dollars back,

sure, I wouldn't care if Saddam was back in power. History is full of small time asshole dictators tyrannizing a small time country.

It's not the job of Americans to die needlessly for the sake of removing them from power.

 

[BlindBoo]

It turned into a fiasco when obama pulled out our troops.....unlike the troops we have kept in Germany, Italy, South Korea, Japan......since those wars ended......the situation was stable and under control when Bush left office....didn't fall apart till obama came in and decided letting the terrorists have free reign would make things better.....

When Bush left office we still had combat troops patrolling the cities.

The Bug Out plan was signed and approved by President Bush.

Wrong!

This is far left revisionism at it's best..

You are either outright lying or just ignorant.

Under SOFA, American forces are to pull back to bases outside Iraq's cities by the end of June 2009 and withdraw entirely from Iraq within three years.

Was the 2008 Status of Forces Agreement SOFA to withdraw US troops from Iraq by 2011 a good agreement - US - Iraq War - ProCon.org

 

[BlindBoo]

I regret Obama's Iraq fiasco. He took a stable nation and plungedvit into chaos all in an effort to support his Islamist jihadist brothers.

I regret it deeply

A stable nation. That brings one question to mind: Could you possibly be more full of shit than you are right now?

Women voted, they had civil law and order, then your boy Obama turned it all over to isis

You mean the Shiite dominated Iraq Government and the Sunnis couldn't work together so the Civil war that was on pause for the US exit started in earnest last year. The Sunnis invited their old pals al Qaeda in Iraq to join them. The Iraqi government invited Iran.

Looks like Bush really fucked up the entire region.

Obama threw open the door for ISIS, therefore Booooosh

Perfect

Nope. President Bush broke apart Iraq and started the Iraqi Civil war, which is escalating into a regional conflict.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

I regret Obama's Iraq fiasco. He took a stable nation and plungedvit into chaos all in an effort to support his Islamist jihadist brothers.

I regret it deeply

A stable nation. That brings one question to mind: Could you possibly be more full of shit than you are right now?

Women voted, they had civil law and order, then your boy Obama turned it all over to isis

You mean the Shiite dominated Iraq Government and the Sunnis couldn't work together so the Civil war that was on pause for the US exit started in earnest last year. The Sunnis invited their old pals al Qaeda in Iraq to join them. The Iraqi government invited Iran.

Looks like Bush really fucked up the entire region.

Obama threw open the door for ISIS, therefore Booooosh

Perfect

Nope. President Bush broke apart Iraq and started the Iraqi Civil war, which is escalating into a regional conflict.

Nope. Bush left Iraq stable with rule of law. Obama was in a hurry to spike the football so he withdrew ALL us troops and encouraged ISIS to take over.

^ Bush's Iraq

^ Obama's Iraq

Notice any differences?

 

[Dot Com]

57Frank keeps posting a pic of a female who voted. Hows that working for them. They vote in Russia as well.

57Frank!!! You a neocon apologist? Was it worth 4,500 servicemen's lives & $3,000,000,000 in borrowed taxpayer $$$ from China just to appease Bill Kristol (current fox News employee) who founded and ran the, now defunct (quelle surprise) PNAC

CrusaderFrank

 

[CrusaderFrank]

57Frank keeps posting a pic of a female who voted. Hows that working for them. They vote in Russia as well.

57Frank!!! You a neocon apologist? Was it worth 4,500 servicemen's lives & $3,000,000,000 in borrowed taxpayer $$$ from China just to appease Bill Kristol (current fox News employee) who founded and ran the, now defunct (quelle surprise) PNAC

CrusaderFrank

Why did Obama destabilize the entire Middle East?

Is there any nation there, besides ISIS and Jihadists, that's better off under Obama?

 

[Liminal]

57Frank keeps posting a pic of a female who voted. Hows that working for them. They vote in Russia as well.

57Frank!!! You a neocon apologist? Was it worth 4,500 servicemen's lives & $3,000,000,000 in borrowed taxpayer $$$ from China just to appease Bill Kristol (current fox News employee) who founded and ran the, now defunct (quelle surprise) PNAC

CrusaderFrank

Why did Obama destabilize the entire Middle East?

Is there any nation there, besides ISIS and Jihadists, that's better off under Obama?

Why did you? I think you destabilized the middle east. Makes about as much sense.

 

[BlindBoo]

A stable nation. That brings one question to mind: Could you possibly be more full of shit than you are right now?

Women voted, they had civil law and order, then your boy Obama turned it all over to isis

You mean the Shiite dominated Iraq Government and the Sunnis couldn't work together so the Civil war that was on pause for the US exit started in earnest last year. The Sunnis invited their old pals al Qaeda in Iraq to join them. The Iraqi government invited Iran.

Looks like Bush really fucked up the entire region.

Obama threw open the door for ISIS, therefore Booooosh

Perfect

Nope. President Bush broke apart Iraq and started the Iraqi Civil war, which is escalating into a regional conflict.

Nope. Bush left Iraq stable with rule of law. Obama was in a hurry to spike the football so he withdrew ALL us troops and encouraged ISIS to take over.

^ Bush's Iraq

^ Obama's Iraq

Notice any differences?

Like I said, when President Bush left office US soldiers were still patrolling and keeping order in major cities in Iraq. President Obama followed the Bush Bug Out plan and kept our troops in Iraq till December of 2011. The Iraqi government shoulders most of the blame for disenfranchising the Sunnis and rekindling the Civil war.

 

[Dot Com]

Women voted, they had civil law and order, then your boy Obama turned it all over to isis

You mean the Shiite dominated Iraq Government and the Sunnis couldn't work together so the Civil war that was on pause for the US exit started in earnest last year. The Sunnis invited their old pals al Qaeda in Iraq to join them. The Iraqi government invited Iran.

Looks like Bush really fucked up the entire region.

Obama threw open the door for ISIS, therefore Booooosh

Perfect

Nope. President Bush broke apart Iraq and started the Iraqi Civil war, which is escalating into a regional conflict.

Nope. Bush left Iraq stable with rule of law. Obama was in a hurry to spike the football so he withdrew ALL us troops and encouraged ISIS to take over.

^ Bush's Iraq

^ Obama's Iraq

Notice any differences?

Like I said, when President Bush left office US soldiers were still patrolling and keeping order in major cities in Iraq. President Obama followed the Bush Bug Out plan and kept our troops in Iraq till December of 2011. The Iraqi government shoulders most of the blame for disenfranchising the Sunnis and rekindling the Civil war.

It didn't help that Bu$hCo (R) put all their eggs in the Malaki basket either

 

[NotfooledbyW]

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Bush left Iraq stable with rule of law.

Iraq was not as stable in 2008 as it was in 2002 and the first 2.5 months of 2003. On March 20 2003 all hell broke loose with the start of the US invasion of Iraq with the spectacular title of Shock and Awe! So you are wrong on that point.

If you wish to cite 'rule of law' as part of that stability you need to quit with denying the Iraqis their 'rule of law' by insisting Obama should have broken the 'rule of law' that Iraqis set in December 2008 that all US combat troops must leave Iraq cities by June 2009 and all troops gone by the end of 2011.

You Obama haters keep saying Obama should have listened to US Generals and keep US troops in Iraq after 2011 and to hell with the rule of law.

So which is it Frank? Rule of Law or only when it suits US right wing whackjobs to defy it at their politicized pleasure.

 

[there4eyeM]

Rule of law means accepting the invasion of Iraq was illegal and those responsible are criminals.

 

[NoNukes]

I don't know, do the Democrats regret their Libyan fiasco?

How many Americans died in that one? How much has it cost America?

 

[Publius1787]

Do they? Considering all the damage it's caused. All the American lives lost or destroyed. The financial cost to the country. Do they ever wonder if it was a bad idea?

 

[Claudette]

Do they? Considering all the damage it's caused. All the American lives lost or destroyed. The financial cost to the country. Do they ever wonder if it was a bad idea?

Gee wonder if the Dems regret the Iraq war?

Ol"Deany forgets that war was voted on by both parties of congress. Dems and Reps approved that war.

Of course in Deany's world the only thing he sees is the Reps. He completely ignores the Dems backing of the Iraq war.

Oh wait. I forgot. Deany's an idiot. Never mind.

 

[NotfooledbyW]

. Ol"Deany forgets that war was voted on by both parties of congress. Dems and Reps approved that war. .

It was not a vote for war unless Bush decided that the peaceful means to disarm Iraq of WMD would not resolve the WMD related UNSC resolutions against Iraq in which case Bush was expected to seek a stronger Resolution for enhanced inspections at the UN and Bush did achieve UN Resolution 1441. After the passage of 1441 within a month after the AUMF (if necessary) vote in October 2002, Iraq let the inspectors in. According to the AUMF language that Dems forced in Bush was required to meet two criteria before he decided on war. Enforce all relevant UNSC resolutions against Iraq AND determine that the diplomatic means (going for inspections) would not protect the national security of the United States.

Bush did neither of those two requirement in the actual AUMF. Have you ever read the Iraq AUMF with regard to Iraq.

 

[Dot Com]

ask the resident repub-voting drones about that $3,000,000,000 pipedream/quagmire resulting in 4,500 servicemen deaths and 10's of 1000's of TBI's suffered and you'll get a "Bu$h who?" response. Shit stains.

 

[ShaklesOfBigGov]

You can make plans for a withdrawal and then hope that conditions in Iraq allow you to do so.

Bush did not simply make plans for withdrawal and hope conditions change - Bush signed a SOFA agreement that required US Troops to withdraw from Iraq cities within six months and entirely out of the country by an exact announced date of January 1 2012. That's a signed deal passed in Iraq's Legislature. Bush surrendered to Muqtada al Sadr am PM Maliki who wanted US troops gone.

You missed my point entirely, you can make "plans" to withdrawal your troops there is nothing wrong with that. However, President Bush never used that as a public campaign promise that announces and INFORMS to its enemies it's plans of withdrawal. Only a complete idiot would announce to the public the exact troop removal date, simply because pleasing their special interest groups are more important than national security and the safety of those who are left behind. It's no wonder Iraq is in chaos with Obama boasting WHEN the country would remain defenseless and having to fend for itself against aggressors who hope to regain their foothold into the region. You can't have a better opportunity than a President who sends you an open invitation on national television when that prime opportunity would come, all these aggressors have to do now is sit and wait for that withdrawal date to pass.

 

[NotfooledbyW]

SoBG 11317099

ou missed my point entirely, you can make "plans" to withdrawal your troops there is nothing wrong with that. However, President Bush never used that as a public campaign promise that announces and INFORMS to its enemies it's plans of withdrawal.

Bush made that binding SOFA deal to withdraw all troops by a date certain during the final month of his presidency. It was not just 'making plans' -.it was a formal binding agreement that fixed a legal date for all troops to be out if Iraq. Of course Bush did not use it as a campaign promise. He never campaigned again. And of course he was embarrassed by Maliki and Muqtada al Sadr,who forced Bush to surrender to a three year deal and absolutely no permanent bases like he wanted.

The point is that Bush conceded to exact dates for troop withdrawal and every enemy of the Iraq government knew exactly what that date was. What Obama said in 2008 meant nothing compared to what the actual president said and did at the end of his destruction of Iraq for five years.

 

[NotfooledbyW]

SoBG 11317099

Only a complete idiot would announce to the public the exact troop removal date,

Your idiot is Bush 43. Obama called it correctly before the invasion was launched. He opposed invading Iraq as it was to be a dumb war.

 

[ShaklesOfBigGov]

SoBG 11317099

ou missed my point entirely, you can make "plans" to withdrawal your troops there is nothing wrong with that. However, President Bush never used that as a public campaign promise that announces and INFORMS to its enemies it's plans of withdrawal.

Bush made that binding SOFA deal to withdraw all troops by a date certain during the final month of his presidency. It was not just 'making plans' -.it was a formal binding agreement that fixed a legal date for all troops to be out if Iraq. Of course Bush did not use it as a campaign promise. He never campaigned again. And of course he was embarrassed by Maliki and Muqtada al Sadr,who forced Bush to surrender to a three year deal and absolutely no permanent bases like he wanted.

The point is that Bush conceded to exact dates for troop withdrawal and every enemy of the Iraq government knew exactly what that date was. What Obama said in 2008 meant nothing compared to what the actual president said and did at the end of his destruction of Iraq for five years.

Those enemies insurgents looking to reclaim Iraq as an extremist foothold in the region, did NOT know the exact date as Bush never "advertised" it like Obama had. Of course if you like to prove me wrong, you are welcome to provide me a video clip of President Bush making that announcement concerning precisely when the last of US troop would withdrawal. However, I have serious doubts you can.