Disrespect for the office of the Presidency

[RKMBrown]

Agreescwith Delta4Embassy.

And the rep thing is bogus. It just means there are more ppl on this site or forum that are anti-Obama, and has nothing to do with the validity or truth of a post.

Thanks for neggin me Guy with The Dixie Flag just because I bumped this topic.

^^ See what I mean?

Reps mean very little. I get negged just for waking up.

And some ppl rep racists that just say "Obama is a commie".

It means nothing.

So you just joined this forum, and already you are a forum expert on the USMB rating system.

 

[Black_Man1]

How long do you think it takes for a person to see that?

Years?

 

[RKMBrown]

As to the first reply, wrong. You respect the office, or the uniform, or the rank - not the individual.

I could see yielding respect to the office if the guy was your superior in a chain of command. So for the folks that are currently in the military, or on extended leave, then I understand why they might show the POTUS respect. However, I'm not in the military, point of fact the POTUS works for me, he's one of my employees. Since I think he's doing a monumentally shitty job of it, I have no respect for him or the office of the president. Not at this point in time. Zero respect, nada, nothing, none, as a matter of fact I would celebrate in the street tomorrow if this guy was run out of town on a rail.

Agree that Obama's doing a poor job, but also would like to interject that sometimes too much attention is directed his way while we forget there's about a few hundred shitty Congresspeople doing an equally shitty job at protecting our freedoms and rights.

I feel like we obsess about the President a bit too much. It's a distraction.

I'm not saying that the guy isn't important, powerful or influential, I'm just saying he's not the only piece to the puzzle. I doubt the country would look much different if a Republican President were in office right now. The same hands are holding both leashes.

Yeah well he is the leader of the demoscum party and has been so for 5years and will remain so for another 3years. He has gotten away with hundreds, perhaps thousands of illegal executive orders. He holds sway over the veto. He's illegally withheld evidence in dozens of cases involving the deaths of Americans. He's joined a suit with a foreign country against one of our States. He puts our fighting men in harms way while making light of their sacrifice.

Distraction? Distraction from what his minions in the demoscum party are doing? Distraction from what the socialists like Boner and McCain are doing in the republican party? Boner and McCain are paid democrat shills.

 

[Meathead]

Building off of another thread...

1. The birther fiasco (2009-2011). No evidence. No proof. No documentation. But the story traveled on for years. Yes, Hawaii is part of the United States of America.

2. “You lie” (Sept. 2009). That any individual — no less a member of Congress watching a U.S. President during a joint session on live national television — is so lacking in self control that this moment was made possible is incredible — even in an age of incivility. Remember this happened only nine months into Obama’s presidency and is another “we can’t remember that ever happening ever before” moment. Close your eyes and pretend Rep. Maxine Waters was Wilson doing this to President Bush and image the reaction.

3. Signs of the Tea Party (July 2010) and Naked Racism (April 2011). Anyone remember California GOP official Marilyn Davenport’s racist e-mail? Did she ever resign for that? I remember all the criticism of the NAACP – particularly from Black Republicans — for their “Tea Party resolution” of 2010. Where was that indignation regarding what can be viewed in this video? Click here.
4. Donald “unchecked ego” Trump inflames birther fiasco, media assists (April 2011). The mouth of Donald Trump is a powerful thing when joined with a 24-hour cable news cycle desperate for viewers. That news organizations invited Trump on the air unchallenged with zero proof of what he was saying speaks volumes on the state of journalism. That Trump was completely comfortable demanding that a U.S. President “show him his papers” displays a superiority complex that exists among those who can’t accept someone they view as “lesser” in a position of power over them.

4. Deadbeat dad and probable one-termer thinks his presence before the President actually matters and needs to tell everyone (Sept 2011). The disrespect isn’t that probable one term Congressman Joe Walsh (R-IL) wouldn’t attend the President’s Sept. 8 speech. The disrespect is that Rep. Walsh actually believed that everyone knowing he wasn’t attending was important. That he needed to announce he would not attend on national television, as if anyone cared, was yet another delusional superiority episode. That proudly showing public disrespect towards the President is a winning strategy in some political circles reveals a lot.

5. Newt Gingrich’s “Kenyan anti-colonial behavior” comment (Sept 2010). Even Washington Post columnist and conservative thinker George Will slammed this attempt to define the President as “foreign.” Never mind the facts: President Obama wasn’t reared by his father in Kenya with whom he spent only a month of his 50 years on this earth. The strategy to define the President as a “foreign” or “alien” being was started by Sarah Palin in 2008.

6. One of the underlying premises of disrespect towards the President is that he can be ordered around and dictated to like he’s Tipi the laundry boy. The presumption that a U.S. President can be ordered around is a new phenomenon that appears to have gotten underway around January 2009. From big mouth Congressmen to millionaires with nothing to do, you name it — they all inherently believe they can order President Obama around. At least Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is an actual leader of something. Regardless, read this and ask yourself if you think this would have happened to Presidents Bush, Reagan or Clinton.

7. Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer puts her finger in the President’s face (January 2012). The photo speaks for itself. Of course there are strong political disagreements between President Obama and Gov. Brewer. But is it just possible there was a better time and place for this conversation? Brewer said she felt “a little threatened” by President Obama. Please.

8. GOP House, prompted by Tea Party — refuses to raise debt ceiling (Aug 2011). Sounds like this was just hardball politics right? Let’s review the facts: The debt ceiling had been raised 69 times since 1962 without incident. Seven times during Bush II and 18 times during Reagan. Suddenly, with President Obama, a shiny new precedent is set with regard to raising the debt ceiling. Another never before seen incident is born.

9. Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) Publicly Announces His Top Political Priority (Dec 2010). McConnell wants the President out of office? No news there, but, wait, there’s more to it. “Our top political priority over the next two years should be to deny President Obama a second term,” Sen. McConnell told the Heritage Foundation. Of course the Senate Republican Leader doesn’t want the President to be re-elected. But what’s with the public announcement? In July 2010 McConnell acknowledged his single most important political goal: President Obama being a one-term President. Again: In public and on national television.

10. Speaker Boehner refuses speech date request (September 2011). No it is not the end of the world. Of course, the White House intentionally wanted to step on a GOP debate that same night. But, this is yet another first in American history. Once again, no one can find another instance where a President of the United States requested a date to address Congress and was refused.

All indignant insults against the most prestigious office in the world. I guess some people weren't raised right.

Archie Hackney, WW2 veteran, refused to stay seated upon meeting the President. Thank you for your service Mr. Hackney.

Meet Archie Hackney | The Fifth ColumnIt is far to late to whine about the disrespect of the presidency, unless of course your panties got bunched up when Bush II was president.

 

[Mojo2]

Building off of another thread...

1. The birther fiasco (2009-2011). No evidence. No proof. No documentation. But the story traveled on for years. Yes, Hawaii is part of the United States of America.

2. “You lie” (Sept. 2009). That any individual — no less a member of Congress watching a U.S. President during a joint session on live national television — is so lacking in self control that this moment was made possible is incredible — even in an age of incivility. Remember this happened only nine months into Obama’s presidency and is another “we can’t remember that ever happening ever before” moment. Close your eyes and pretend Rep. Maxine Waters was Wilson doing this to President Bush and image the reaction.

3. Signs of the Tea Party (July 2010) and Naked Racism (April 2011). Anyone remember California GOP official Marilyn Davenport’s racist e-mail? Did she ever resign for that? I remember all the criticism of the NAACP – particularly from Black Republicans — for their “Tea Party resolution” of 2010. Where was that indignation regarding what can be viewed in this video? Click here.
4. Donald “unchecked ego” Trump inflames birther fiasco, media assists (April 2011). The mouth of Donald Trump is a powerful thing when joined with a 24-hour cable news cycle desperate for viewers. That news organizations invited Trump on the air unchallenged with zero proof of what he was saying speaks volumes on the state of journalism. That Trump was completely comfortable demanding that a U.S. President “show him his papers” displays a superiority complex that exists among those who can’t accept someone they view as “lesser” in a position of power over them.

4. Deadbeat dad and probable one-termer thinks his presence before the President actually matters and needs to tell everyone (Sept 2011). The disrespect isn’t that probable one term Congressman Joe Walsh (R-IL) wouldn’t attend the President’s Sept. 8 speech. The disrespect is that Rep. Walsh actually believed that everyone knowing he wasn’t attending was important. That he needed to announce he would not attend on national television, as if anyone cared, was yet another delusional superiority episode. That proudly showing public disrespect towards the President is a winning strategy in some political circles reveals a lot.

5. Newt Gingrich’s “Kenyan anti-colonial behavior” comment (Sept 2010). Even Washington Post columnist and conservative thinker George Will slammed this attempt to define the President as “foreign.” Never mind the facts: President Obama wasn’t reared by his father in Kenya with whom he spent only a month of his 50 years on this earth. The strategy to define the President as a “foreign” or “alien” being was started by Sarah Palin in 2008.

6. One of the underlying premises of disrespect towards the President is that he can be ordered around and dictated to like he’s Tipi the laundry boy. The presumption that a U.S. President can be ordered around is a new phenomenon that appears to have gotten underway around January 2009. From big mouth Congressmen to millionaires with nothing to do, you name it — they all inherently believe they can order President Obama around. At least Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is an actual leader of something. Regardless, read this and ask yourself if you think this would have happened to Presidents Bush, Reagan or Clinton.

7. Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer puts her finger in the President’s face (January 2012). The photo speaks for itself. Of course there are strong political disagreements between President Obama and Gov. Brewer. But is it just possible there was a better time and place for this conversation? Brewer said she felt “a little threatened” by President Obama. Please.

8. GOP House, prompted by Tea Party — refuses to raise debt ceiling (Aug 2011). Sounds like this was just hardball politics right? Let’s review the facts: The debt ceiling had been raised 69 times since 1962 without incident. Seven times during Bush II and 18 times during Reagan. Suddenly, with President Obama, a shiny new precedent is set with regard to raising the debt ceiling. Another never before seen incident is born.

9. Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) Publicly Announces His Top Political Priority (Dec 2010). McConnell wants the President out of office? No news there, but, wait, there’s more to it. “Our top political priority over the next two years should be to deny President Obama a second term,” Sen. McConnell told the Heritage Foundation. Of course the Senate Republican Leader doesn’t want the President to be re-elected. But what’s with the public announcement? In July 2010 McConnell acknowledged his single most important political goal: President Obama being a one-term President. Again: In public and on national television.

10. Speaker Boehner refuses speech date request (September 2011). No it is not the end of the world. Of course, the White House intentionally wanted to step on a GOP debate that same night. But, this is yet another first in American history. Once again, no one can find another instance where a President of the United States requested a date to address Congress and was refused.

All indignant insults against the most prestigious office in the world. I guess some people weren't raised right.

Archie Hackney, WW2 veteran, refused to stay seated upon meeting the President. Thank you for your service Mr. Hackney.

Meet Archie Hackney | The Fifth Column

Would you stand up and honor someone who you truly believed had used lies and deceit to attain his office and in turn used his position to advance a radical agenda which would lessen, hurt, weaken America in several ways and violate the Constitution and our laws in order to make us all subjects of the government?

That would be like standing to honor your daughter's rapist.

WELL, WOULDN'T IT???

 

[Black_Man1]

omg @ Mojo.

smh


Anyway, that WWII soldier has more class than all these haters in here combined.

 

[Stephanie]

omg @ Mojo.

smh


Anyway, that WWII soldier has more class than all these haters in here combined.

and that certainly includes you and your hero, Obama

 

[Little-Acorn]

Has nothing to do with the office...everything to do with the moron occupying it.

Completely missing the point

No, YOU missed the point.

Getting elected President, doesn't shield you from contempt when you violate the oath you took to serve in it, not once but many times as part of a pattern showing that you have no respect for the office itself, nor for the constitutional structure the office is part of.

If Mr. Obama had any respect for the office, at this point he'd leave it, to protect it from his own demonstrated disrespect for it.

Why aren't you criticizing him?

 

[Stephanie]

Has nothing to do with the office...everything to do with the moron occupying it.

Completely missing the point

No, YOU missed the point.

Getting elected President, doesn't shield you from contempt when you violate the oath you took to serve in it, not once but many times as part of a pattern showing that you have no respect for the office itself, nor for the constitutional structure the office is part of.

If Mr. Obama had any respect for the office, at this point he'd leave it, to protect it from his own demonstrated disrespect for it.

Why aren't you criticizing him?

he's an Obama cult member