Difference between Chicago and New York and gun murder...the criminals....

2aguy

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Why does New York have a lower gun murder rate than chicago?

No, it isn't because Chicago criminals can drive to Indiana and get guns....New York city criminals can drive to Vermont where the gun laws are a lot easier than Indiana's...

This is the answer....

Illegal gun possession in Chicago.... 1 year.....

Illegal gun possession in New York city.....3 1/2 years.....

That is why the criminals in new york city carry guns less often than Chicago thugs do.....

Also...more cops in NewYork.....

The New York Times: Chicago's "Murder Problem" is Worse Than New York's City Because Guns! - The Truth About Guns

And Chicago is more lenient about illegal handguns than New York, prescribing a one-year minimum for possession versus three and a half years in New York. An attempt to match the New York law in 2013 was rejected by the Illinois legislature out of concern for skyrocketing incarceration rates for young black men.
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Chicago’s revolving door judicial system certainly has some ‘splainin’ to do when it comes to gangland murders — which is exactly what we’re talking about. (Some say the gangs are part of the City’s political structure, protecting them from prosecution, but I couldn’t possibly comment.) As for a solution to Chiraq’s gang-related murder fest, the Times’ statism is showing.

New York also hired a lot more police officers in response to the crime of the 1990s, and, during its stop-and-frisk era of the 2000s, steeply increased gun enforcement. Recent studies, including one that looked at increased police presence in London after a terrorist attack, have suggested more police might mean less crime, said Jens Ludwig, the director of Crime Lab at the University of Chicago, which studies crime in both Chicago and New York.

Chicago’s Police Department, overwhelmed, can respond only to the most serious problems, leaving citizens to feel responsible for their own security, he said.


I have posted about this before many times....

(Some say the gangs are part of the City’s political structure, protecting them from prosecution, but I couldn’t possibly comment.)


The gangs in some Chicago wards are picking their aldermen...who then protect the gangs interests in City Hall, and reject efforts to increase police resources in their territories...


And again.....law abiding people owning and carrying guns...are not the problem......the police know who the shooters are, and they just can't stop them when prosecutors and judges don't sentence these killers to long jail sentences......

The old Superintendant of police said they would catch felons with illegal guns...and they would be back on the streets murdering people in about 48 hours.......

Japan fixed their Yakuza shooting problem....by passing a law that mandated a 30 year prison sentence for gun crime.........that is what keeps their criminal gun murder rate so low......
 
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The difference is people also. Utah us a very gun happy state. Low crime. Connecticut is a very ANTI GUN state. Low crime.

Vastly different gun laws. Nearly identical crime rates.

It's people and always has been.
 

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