Destroying Pakistan to Make It Safe

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    Destroying Pakistan to Make It Safe by Eric Margolis
     
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    Yeah, blame the US. Just forget about the Taliban. They have nothing at all to do with it.
     
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    The article was about the U.S. attacking and urging Pakistan's government to attack a tribe called the Pashtun who are being incorrectly labelled as the Taliban.
     
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    So...the media portrays them as the "taliban" but they are just a "harmless tribe"? or were they causing trouble? But either way i agree...its pakistans problem to deal with any tribes or terrorists in their country. We have too many problems with middle eastern affairs and our economy. But i wouldn't say insisting pakistan to do something about a group of ppl that may pose a threat is a bad thing. Id rather the U.S manipulate a countries government so they would do what we told them...instead of the U.S. doing it ourselves. So you could say there are some positives and negatives.
     
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    God you Yanks are ignorant. You really are....
     
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    We don't need to be manipulating other governments at all, we need to mind our own business.
     
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    And why is that? Manipulating other governments is a cheap and easy way to get things done. And as of right now, cheap and easy, is our only option.

    Look throughout history at all of the great empires that have fallen. The Romans, persians, ottoman. All fell apart because they were too agressive. And why were they too agressive? Because they wanted to control countries "physically". And the only way to do that was to go to war with them. And I dont care how strong your empire is and your army is. Having to go to war everytime you want to take over someone takes a toll on your country.

    So the U.S. wants things done in the Middle East...so they can prevent further wars in that area. But we have fought the war over their for 8 years now. And we are tired of it. But we still have to find a way to keep some sort of peace over there. The best way to do that is manipulate the stronger governments and convince them to eliminate certain enemies.

    Hhmmm...sounds like a good idea.
     
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    Because intervening in the affairs of other countries makes them resent us.
     
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    Here's an idea, how about leaving other countries alone? Wasn't one of the main reasons you guys left Britain was to be masters of your own destiny without interference from foreign powers?
     
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    Wrong...we left Britain to have our own government...our own economy...our own religions...our own laws. Britain was controlling everything about us and we didn't like it.

    In the situation brought up in the thread...America was manipulating Pakistan. Controlling and Manipulating are two different things.

    Let me explain it too you....Manipulation is when you influence someone to do something, or trick them into doing something, you want them to do. Controlling someone is making them do something simply by force. The two are very different but similar at the same time. Back to the thread though...

    America will never leave other countries alone and mind to its own business. And its a damn good thing they don't either.

    Imagine if we had never gotten involved in the European campaign in WWII. Europe would, possibly, be under the control of one country right now (Germany). So maybe it is a good idea to keep our eyes open and solve a problem when we see one.

    But, since America has been at war for 8 years everyone is sick of it. It seems we are making no progress and our economy worsens every day. So the government has resolved to talking to other governments and using them as pawns..like a chess game.
     

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