Denzel Washington knows what our problem is...fatherless homes..not guns or prisons...

[Asclepias]

In defense of black men, have any of yall MET a black woman? I wouldn't stick around either.

Thats an odd question. My wife is a Black goddess. I aint going no where.

no such thing. Sorry bro.

no such thing as what?

a black goddess, I mean I bolded it for you.

Of course there is. Who do you think humans prayed to first? Isis was a Black goddess for Egypt.

 

[Doc1]

Yep...Denzel Washington stepped into a Crap Storm....he actually told the truth about the problems in not only black communities, but in all communities with violent and other crime....

Denzel Washington to Black America: Stop Blaming the Prison System, 'It Starts at Home'

“It starts at the home. It starts at home. It starts with how you raise your children. If a young man doesn’t have a father figure, he’ll go find a father figure,” the Academy Award-winner told reporters at the Dan Gilroy-directed film’s New York premiere, the New York Daily News reports.

“So you know I can’t blame the system. It’s unfortunate that we make such easy work for them,” Washington said.

I agree with Denzel. Instead of blaming the system teach your kids not to trust the system and avoid getting ensnared by it. You can cry all day long about the system but until you are in a position to change it then the best you can do is do everything in your power to avoid it then pray some racist cop doesnt set you up.

Seems like a good plan regardless of race "hey don't break the fucking law and you probably don't have to worry about the police"

Bullshit. Whites break the law all the time and get away with it. Blacks dont have to even break a law and racist cops set them up and racist judges throw them in the slammer to be trained for a criminal life.

Blah blah blah, pound sound.

 

[SirRyan]

In defense of black men, have any of yall MET a black woman? I wouldn't stick around either.

Thats an odd question. My wife is a Black goddess. I aint going no where.

no such thing. Sorry bro.

no such thing as what?

a black goddess, I mean I bolded it for you.

Of course there is. Who do you think humans prayed to first? Isis was a Black goddess for Egypt.

Nonsense, ISIS was brown, not black

 

[Asclepias]

Thats an odd question. My wife is a Black goddess. I aint going no where.

no such thing. Sorry bro.

no such thing as what?

a black goddess, I mean I bolded it for you.

Of course there is. Who do you think humans prayed to first? Isis was a Black goddess for Egypt.

Nonsense, ISIS was brown, not black

Not the color you moron. The ethnicity. There is a reason Isis called herself a Nubian.

 

[SirRyan]

no such thing. Sorry bro.

no such thing as what?

a black goddess, I mean I bolded it for you.

Of course there is. Who do you think humans prayed to first? Isis was a Black goddess for Egypt.

Nonsense, ISIS was brown, not black

Not the color you moron. The ethnicity. There is a reason Isis called herself a Nubian.

Except she didn't . Nubian LOL

and besides when you used the term "black goddess" you weren't referring to the mythological anyway.

The ONLY men who are married to black women are those who couldn't find someone better to marry.

 

[Asclepias]

Yep...Denzel Washington stepped into a Crap Storm....he actually told the truth about the problems in not only black communities, but in all communities with violent and other crime....

Denzel Washington to Black America: Stop Blaming the Prison System, 'It Starts at Home'

“It starts at the home. It starts at home. It starts with how you raise your children. If a young man doesn’t have a father figure, he’ll go find a father figure,” the Academy Award-winner told reporters at the Dan Gilroy-directed film’s New York premiere, the New York Daily News reports.

“So you know I can’t blame the system. It’s unfortunate that we make such easy work for them,” Washington said.

I agree with Denzel. Instead of blaming the system teach your kids not to trust the system and avoid getting ensnared by it. You can cry all day long about the system but until you are in a position to change it then the best you can do is do everything in your power to avoid it then pray some racist cop doesnt set you up.

Seems like a good plan regardless of race "hey don't break the fucking law and you probably don't have to worry about the police"

Bullshit. Whites break the law all the time and get away with it. Blacks dont have to even break a law and racist cops set them up and racist judges throw them in the slammer to be trained for a criminal life.

Blah blah blah, pound sound.

Yeah but dont you ever tell a Black person they dont have to worry about racist cops.

 

[Meathead]

Yep...Denzel Washington stepped into a Crap Storm....he actually told the truth about the problems in not only black communities, but in all communities with violent and other crime....

Denzel Washington to Black America: Stop Blaming the Prison System, 'It Starts at Home'

“It starts at the home. It starts at home. It starts with how you raise your children. If a young man doesn’t have a father figure, he’ll go find a father figure,” the Academy Award-winner told reporters at the Dan Gilroy-directed film’s New York premiere, the New York Daily News reports.

“So you know I can’t blame the system. It’s unfortunate that we make such easy work for them,” Washington said.

Undoubtedly true. In the Czech Republic where there are thousands of Vietnamese, and almost none from broken homes and zero with multiple babydaddies, their kids soar scholastically, yet they are minorities but respected for their work ethic.

I don't need to make the contrast to a specific minority in the US. It is all too apparent.

 

[Asclepias]

no such thing as what?

a black goddess, I mean I bolded it for you.

Of course there is. Who do you think humans prayed to first? Isis was a Black goddess for Egypt.

Nonsense, ISIS was brown, not black

Not the color you moron. The ethnicity. There is a reason Isis called herself a Nubian.

Except she didn't . Nubian LOL

and besides when you used the term "black goddess" you weren't referring to the mythological anyway.

The ONLY men who are married to black women are those who couldn't find someone better to marry.

Except she did white boy. Sorry but you lose again.

In the British Museum, there is an Egyptian healing text in which Isis specifically says of Herself, “I am the Nubian and I have descended from heaven.”

 

[WEATHER53]

Yep...Denzel Washington stepped into a Crap Storm....he actually told the truth about the problems in not only black communities, but in all communities with violent and other crime....

Denzel Washington to Black America: Stop Blaming the Prison System, 'It Starts at Home'

“It starts at the home. It starts at home. It starts with how you raise your children. If a young man doesn’t have a father figure, he’ll go find a father figure,” the Academy Award-winner told reporters at the Dan Gilroy-directed film’s New York premiere, the New York Daily News reports.

“So you know I can’t blame the system. It’s unfortunate that we make such easy work for them,” Washington said.

I agree with Denzel. Instead of blaming the system teach your kids not to trust the system and avoid getting ensnared by it. You can cry all day long about the system but until you are in a position to change it then the best you can do is do everything in your power to avoid it then pray some racist cop doesnt set you up.

Seems like a good plan regardless of race "hey don't break the fucking law and you probably don't have to worry about the police"

Bullshit. Whites break the law all the time and get away with it. Blacks dont have to even break a law and racist cops set them up and racist judges throw them in the slammer to be trained for a criminal life.

Blah blah blah, pound sound.

Yeah but dont you ever tell a Black person they dont have to worry about racist cops.

Most of the police force in the top 20 metros are non white
Devastating Fact for liberal froth

 

[SirRyan]

a black goddess, I mean I bolded it for you.

Of course there is. Who do you think humans prayed to first? Isis was a Black goddess for Egypt.

Nonsense, ISIS was brown, not black

Not the color you moron. The ethnicity. There is a reason Isis called herself a Nubian.

Except she didn't . Nubian LOL

and besides when you used the term "black goddess" you weren't referring to the mythological anyway.

The ONLY men who are married to black women are those who couldn't find someone better to marry.

Except she did white boy. Sorry but you lose again.

In the British Museum, there is an Egyptian healing text in which Isis specifically says of Herself, “I am the Nubian and I have descended from heaven.”

Great, now show where nubian is black. It isn't

Also, obviously, you have no idea of my skin color, very racist of you just to assume.

 

[JQPublic1]

Again, this thread isn't about blackness or skin color. It's about the woes of fatherless boys in general. That's why Mr. D. Washington spoke out. He's speaking out not to call attention to race, but rather attention to lack of fathers to boys. Making it about race is a form of bigotry, as if black fatherless boys are somehow much more repugnant to society than white fatherless boys.

No matter how well they tan in the sun, ALL fatherless boys are statistically more prone to drug addiction, gang violence, suicide, crime, murder and depression. Period.

Just a random oddity that a way higher percentage of black boys grow up without fathers than other races I suppose. Nothing to do with the one trait these folks have in common.

There's nothing random about it at all.
It's happening all over the world...especially in industrialized nations.

True but in THIS country the stats don't lie, a black child is 13 times more likely to grow up without a father than a white child.

There's a lesson in there, somewhere.

Thats an invalid assumption. You don't know how many of those fathers are cohabitating with the mothers. And I'll bet the stats you're refrencing dont mention cohabitation atall.
Check those stats sgain to make sure they are actually indicating what you say the are.
If the data only addresses unwed births your assumption that the fathers are all or mostly absent are incorrect. And that statement about black kids being 13% more likely to grow up without a father would be rendered bogus too.

 

[GHook93]

Been banging this drum for 20years and called racist a thousand times

And I've been. handing out sound suppresors to reduce the sound of drummers making unnecessary noise. Although the black community has been projected in the media as a bastion of crime, disease and poverty, that is NOT the case. 75% of blacks live above the poverty level and a relatively few are criminals. Denzel may not be aware of that.
He might also be oblivious of the ongoing opiod epidemic and suicide cases that are sweeping the Euro-American communities.
Perhaps you need to move your drum to a more suburban location and change the beat to one that highlights the ills among your own people.

40% of all black children live under the poverty line.
http://blackdemographics.com/households/poverty/

1 out of 4 black adults (this includes women) have a felon.
What Percentage of The US Adult Population Has a Felony Conviction?


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[Asclepias]

Of course there is. Who do you think humans prayed to first? Isis was a Black goddess for Egypt.

Nonsense, ISIS was brown, not black

Not the color you moron. The ethnicity. There is a reason Isis called herself a Nubian.

Except she didn't . Nubian LOL

and besides when you used the term "black goddess" you weren't referring to the mythological anyway.

The ONLY men who are married to black women are those who couldn't find someone better to marry.

Except she did white boy. Sorry but you lose again.

In the British Museum, there is an Egyptian healing text in which Isis specifically says of Herself, “I am the Nubian and I have descended from heaven.”

Great, now show where nubian is black. It isn't

Also, obviously, you have no idea of my skin color, very racist of you just to assume.

You must be an idiot if you dont know Nubian is Black. I see you belong to less intelligent race.

Definition of NUBIAN

Definition of Nubian
1a : a native or inhabitant of Nubia
: a member of one of the group of dark-skinned peoples that formed a powerful empire between Egypt and Ethiopia from the 6th to the 14th centuries
: any of several languages spoken in central and northern Sudan

 

[SirRyan]

Again, this thread isn't about blackness or skin color. It's about the woes of fatherless boys in general. That's why Mr. D. Washington spoke out. He's speaking out not to call attention to race, but rather attention to lack of fathers to boys. Making it about race is a form of bigotry, as if black fatherless boys are somehow much more repugnant to society than white fatherless boys.

No matter how well they tan in the sun, ALL fatherless boys are statistically more prone to drug addiction, gang violence, suicide, crime, murder and depression. Period.

Just a random oddity that a way higher percentage of black boys grow up without fathers than other races I suppose. Nothing to do with the one trait these folks have in common.

There's nothing random about it at all.
It's happening all over the world...especially in industrialized nations.

True but in THIS country the stats don't lie, a black child is 13 times more likely to grow up without a father than a white child.

There's a lesson in there, somewhere.

Thats an invalid assumption. You don't know how many of those fathers are cohabitating with the mothers. And I'll bet the stats you're refrencing dont mention cohabitation atall.
Check those stats sgain to make sure they are actually indicating what you say the are.
If the data only addresses unwed births your assumption that the fathers are all or mostly absent are incorrect. And that statement about black kids being 13% more likely to grow up without a father would be rendered bogus too.

Eh, I've a feeling I could spend all day long posting facts, metrics, and evidence to back up the claims and you would continue to deny what those of us with functioning brains know is true. That being that although there are segments of any group that absolutely suck. Percentage wise black people have a far larger segment than any other ethnicity in this country.

Seriously, when you could remove 14% of the population and see a net 50% drop in crime, you have to acknowledge that group has a problem.

 

[Asclepias]

I agree with Denzel. Instead of blaming the system teach your kids not to trust the system and avoid getting ensnared by it. You can cry all day long about the system but until you are in a position to change it then the best you can do is do everything in your power to avoid it then pray some racist cop doesnt set you up.

Seems like a good plan regardless of race "hey don't break the fucking law and you probably don't have to worry about the police"

Bullshit. Whites break the law all the time and get away with it. Blacks dont have to even break a law and racist cops set them up and racist judges throw them in the slammer to be trained for a criminal life.

Blah blah blah, pound sound.

Yeah but dont you ever tell a Black person they dont have to worry about racist cops.

Most of the police force in the top 20 metros are non white
Devastating Fact for liberal froth

How is that devastating or even addressing my point? Of course this is assuming that isnt just your opinion.

 

[Asclepias]

Again, this thread isn't about blackness or skin color. It's about the woes of fatherless boys in general. That's why Mr. D. Washington spoke out. He's speaking out not to call attention to race, but rather attention to lack of fathers to boys. Making it about race is a form of bigotry, as if black fatherless boys are somehow much more repugnant to society than white fatherless boys.

No matter how well they tan in the sun, ALL fatherless boys are statistically more prone to drug addiction, gang violence, suicide, crime, murder and depression. Period.

Just a random oddity that a way higher percentage of black boys grow up without fathers than other races I suppose. Nothing to do with the one trait these folks have in common.

There's nothing random about it at all.
It's happening all over the world...especially in industrialized nations.

True but in THIS country the stats don't lie, a black child is 13 times more likely to grow up without a father than a white child.

There's a lesson in there, somewhere.

Thats an invalid assumption. You don't know how many of those fathers are cohabitating with the mothers. And I'll bet the stats you're refrencing dont mention cohabitation atall.
Check those stats sgain to make sure they are actually indicating what you say the are.
If the data only addresses unwed births your assumption that the fathers are all or mostly absent are incorrect. And that statement about black kids being 13% more likely to grow up without a father would be rendered bogus too.

Eh, I've a feeling I could spend all day long posting facts, metrics, and evidence to back up the claims and you would continue to deny what those of us with functioning brains know is true. That being that although there are segments of any group that absolutely suck. Percentage wise black people have a far larger segment than any other ethnicity in this country.

Seriously, when you could remove 14% of the population and see a net 50% drop in crime, you have to acknowledge that group has a problem.

White "facts" and metrics are like listening to baboons talk to each other.

 

[SirRyan]

Nonsense, ISIS was brown, not black

Not the color you moron. The ethnicity. There is a reason Isis called herself a Nubian.

Except she didn't . Nubian LOL

and besides when you used the term "black goddess" you weren't referring to the mythological anyway.

The ONLY men who are married to black women are those who couldn't find someone better to marry.

Except she did white boy. Sorry but you lose again.

In the British Museum, there is an Egyptian healing text in which Isis specifically says of Herself, “I am the Nubian and I have descended from heaven.”

Great, now show where nubian is black. It isn't

Also, obviously, you have no idea of my skin color, very racist of you just to assume.

You must be an idiot if you dont know Nubian is Black. I see you belong to less intelligent race.

Nubian refers to area that is currently Egypt and the people from there are not , were not, and will never be considered part of the black race. Nubians were mostly of Arab descent.

 

[Asclepias]

Not the color you moron. The ethnicity. There is a reason Isis called herself a Nubian.

Except she didn't . Nubian LOL

and besides when you used the term "black goddess" you weren't referring to the mythological anyway.

The ONLY men who are married to black women are those who couldn't find someone better to marry.

Except she did white boy. Sorry but you lose again.

In the British Museum, there is an Egyptian healing text in which Isis specifically says of Herself, “I am the Nubian and I have descended from heaven.”

Great, now show where nubian is black. It isn't

Also, obviously, you have no idea of my skin color, very racist of you just to assume.

You must be an idiot if you dont know Nubian is Black. I see you belong to less intelligent race.

Nubian refers to area that is currently Egypt and the people from there are not , were not, and will never be considered part of the black race. Nubians were mostly of Arab descent.

You would need to prove that. Show me a person that claims to be Nubian that isnt Black. FYI. Arabs were originally Black and some still exist to this day.

Arab Nubians

 

[Flopper]

Well damn I enjoyed his movies...well...guess that's that. He won't be getting any more offers after letting go of the line like that.

I doubt that. Denzel Washington is a democrat. He supported and endorsed Obama and other democrats. However, he refused to criticize George Bush. He has been both a critic and supportive of the black community. He also is a devout Christian and makes no bones about it. Among the top Hollywood personalities, he is one of the least political.

 

[JQPublic1]

It's the simplistic right wing "view" of things that always means they're right and therefore they don't need to actually deal with any of the problems.

Uh what’s the stat, some 70% of blacks grow up in fatherless homes...that doesn’t seem like a problem to you? There’s been study after study, showing a very strong correlation with criminal problems, unhealthy adjustments, and unhealthy relationships among kids/adults who have grown up without/very little fatherly interactions. No duh it starts in the home...where else would it start?? If your waiting for school for it to start, you’re already too late.

Yes, it's a problem to me.

Children in single-parent families by race | KIDS COUNT Data Center

The stats are about 67%

Now why does this happen?

Race divide on single parents | Metro News

In the UK there's an issue with this too. However "only" 48% of families with children in black Caribbean families are in single parent families. 36% of black African families are single parent.

Well this black African figure is nearly half what it is in the US.

For white people the figure is 22% which is higher than Asian origin families.

So, black Africans are 50% more likely in the UK to be single parents.

But in the US non-Hispanic whites are at 25%, slightly higher than the UK average (which is difficult to compare because the statistic appear to be different) but the black statistic is much, MUCH higher.

Why?

Are you telling me the US and the way it deals with things isn't the issue here?

Certainly part of it...but we also have a massive drug problem. We also have a stronger culture supporting the drug culture. Now I am for legalization...which will help. But when the entire rap culture is glorifying crime and selfishness, that’s gonna definitely influence it. It’s a culture that’s telling you that money will fix all of the problems around you, and get rich by any means, or die trying...or that you should be trying to make it as a rapper and put all your eggs in that basket, and if that doesn’t work, turn to black market drugs...that’s DEFINTILY going to have an effect. And that’s defiantly what we’re seeing. That is a cultural problem, and government is not going to fix it. They’ve been trying to fix it. 22 trillion dollars later the only thing we’ve added is more poverty, and more broken homes.

You've just described. Nixon's legacy: the War on Drugs.;a war that has consistently been waged primarily against blacks although Caucs use and deal at the same rates.
The effect? BLACK Dads are given long prison sentences for using and or distributing...!!! The enforcement of non violent drug offenses in the black community has taken a toll on the black family probably more than any other single factor. But I would have no complaint if an equal number of Cauc users snd distributors met the same fate. They don't.

It’s nothing to do with color, it’s all about how much money you have for defense. Any lawyer will tell you that.

I could buy your counter argument except for one thing. Poor Cauc criminals or druggies don't have any more monetary assets than their black counterparts do. But the drug enforcement agents aren't canvassing CAUC
neighborhoods as energetically as they do black neighborhoods.. There are numerous studies to back up the premise that bias in the justice system is a big factor in arrests, prosecution and sentencing.

Here is one glaring example:

Another College Rapist Avoids Prison: Read Vicitm's Response

"Austin Wilkerson, 22, told friends that he was going to take the victim home after she drank too much, but instead assaulted her while she was semi-conscious. Wilkerson was found guilty earlier this week, but Judge Patrick Butler decided not to send Wilkerson to prison. Instead, Wilkerson’s punishment is two years of work release and 20 years probation, which immediately drew comparisons to Brock Turner, a Stanford University student who was found guilty of raping an unconscious woman, but only received a six-month sentence."