Dennis Hastert Is Indicted!

[FA_Q2]

Repubs have a perfect circle of denial

Republicans are getting indicted because they are innocent. The charges are because the dem DOJ is criminal but has proof against Repubs

The Obama admin is criminal because they do not have charges brought. They dont have charges because the DOJ is criminal and does not have proof

Therefore:

The DOJ is criminal because Obama is criminal.

Proof: None

Did you miss all the tax cheats and other criminal activities that were caught in the cabinet and admitted to (only because they were caught red handed).

I certainly do not think that it is just fine for the ruling elite to simply pay back the money they tried to steal when the rest of us would certainly see jail time for such crimes.


I don't know what will happen to this republican but I strongly suspect that it will not be enough.

 

[FA_Q2]

I'm Happy Joy, but I think you still missed the point of the OP.

That is likely because there really was no point of the OP other than to revel in their partisan blinders. Hell the article even mentioned that a democrat was already caught by the new law though it does not mention if they also voted for the PA.

It makes one point - that it is ironic - and asks one question which I answered in the above post. Other than that there is not much of a 'point' to the OP of this thread.

 

[Skylar]

The modern GOP has no direct connection to the party that Jefferson founded.

you mean as long as you don't consider name and philosophy important?? So what do you consider as important??

The Democratic Republican party didn't oppose slavery. It was founded by slaveholders. Where the Republican party took a stanchly anti-slavery position, having drawn many of its members from the more anti-slavery wing of the Whig party. The nucleus around which they formed was their attempts to preserve the Missouri Comprimise, and opposition to both 'popular sovereignty' and the Kansas Nebraska act. It was the single most defining issue of the Republicans founded before the civil war.

None of these played any role in the Democratic Republicans.

Even geographically, their bases were opposites. With the Democratic Republicans strong in the South and weak in the Northeast. And the Lincoln Republicans strong in the Northeast and weak in the South.

The Lincoln Republicans founded before the civil war were much more analogous to the Federalists of the founder's era in their interpretation of the constitution, emphasizing federal power over State authority.

Known for their support of a strong national government, the Federalists emphasized commercial and diplomatic harmony with Britain following the signing of the 1794 Jay Treaty.

Federalist Party - Facts Summary - HISTORY.com

Lincoln Republicans strongly advocated a strong federal government. The Democratic Republican party was much more about State power over the Federal government.

So there's no direct connection between them. Not historically, not philosophically.

 

[Skylar]

They called themselves simply 'Republicans'. .

ah but dear you said they were called Democratic Republicans????
Do you want to read a third article as a tie breaker??

See why we say a liberal will be slow??

The term 'democratic republican' was used. But not commonly until the 1800s. Jefferson and Madison, the two founders of the Democratic Republican party used the term 'Republican Party' or 'Republican Interest' when describing it in their own correspondence.

With Lincoln Republicans taking almost point for point the exact opposite position of the Democratic Republicans. Lincoln's republicans were not the philosophical heirs of Jefferson. But opposed most of what Jefferson stood for.

 

[RKMBrown]

Ahhh, the irony of this...

Dennis Hastert in 2001: sworn-in as Speaker of the HOR, to defend the US Constitution. Uhuh.​

Patriot Act That Dennis Hastert Passed Led To His Indictment

On Oct. 24, 2001, then-House Speaker J. Dennis Hastert (R-Ill.) shepherded the Patriot Act through the House of Representatives. It passed 357 to 66, advancing to the Senate and then-President George W. Bush’s desk for signing.

Hastert took credit for House passage in a 2011 interview, claiming it “wasn’t popular, and there was a lot of fight in the Congress” over it.

Little did Hastert know at the time that the law he helped pass would give federal law enforcement the tools to indict him on charges of violating banking-related reporting requirements more than a decade later.

The Department of Justice on Thursday announced Hastert's indictment for agreeing to pay $3.5 million in hush money to keep someone quiet about his “prior misconduct.” The indictment accuses Hastert of structuring bank withdrawals to avoid bank reporting requirements, and lying to the FBI about the nature of the withdrawals. It does not reveal the “misconduct” that Hastert was trying to conceal. The recipient of the money was a resident of Yorkville, Illinois, where Hastert taught high school and coached wrestling from 1965 to 1981.

The indictment suggests that law enforcement officials relied on the Patriot Act’s expansion of bank reporting requirements to snare Hastert.

Ahhh, irony.

And so, we see yet another Republican embroiled in something illegal.

Yesiree, the GOP: party of high ethics, morals and family values.

Discuss: what do you think will happen to Hastert?

Yes it is ironic.. and you should have stopped short.

Did you have an orgasm when this guy got caught? Why do you feel the need to cum all over your pants every time a republican gets caught doing something untoward?

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Lincoln Republicans strongly advocated a strong federal government. The Democratic Republican party was much more about State power over the Federal government.

So there's no direct connection between them. Not historically, not philosophically.

dear, lets do our ABC's shall we?

1) From Plato and Aristotle forward history was defined and the battle between freedom and govt

2) as you say, Lincoln Republicans were about strong federal govt while Jefferson Republicans were for freedom from govt. Therefore, modern Republicans are similar to Jeffersonian Republicans not Lincoln Republicans.

Do you understand now??
Notice that a liberal will always be slow.

 

[JimH52]

Just amazing the number of upstanding members of the party of morals have been caught in these situations, not only In the political arena, but people I personally know. Not that The Dems are any better....,but THE PARTY OF MORALS?

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

The term 'democratic republican' was used. But not commonly until the 1800s..

I said if you had evidence of this I will pay you $10,000 and you ran away like a typical liberal???

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

, the two founders of the Democratic Republican party used the term 'Republican Party' or 'Republican Interest' when describing it in their own correspondence.

so then why do you lie as a liberal and call it the Democratic Republican party?? Jefferson and Madison are not good enough sources??

 

[Skylar]

Lincoln Republicans strongly advocated a strong federal government. The Democratic Republican party was much more about State power over the Federal government.

So there's no direct connection between them. Not historically, not philosophically.

dear, lets do our ABC's shall we?

1) From Plato and Aristotle forward history was defined and the battle between freedom and govt

2) as you say, Lincoln Republicans were about strong federal govt while Jefferson Republicans were for freedom from govt. Therefore, modern Republicans are similar to Jeffersonian Republicans not Lincoln Republicans.

Then you admit that the founding of the GOP had no historical or philosophical roots to the Democratic Republican party.

Good.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

. Lincoln's republicans were not the philosophical heirs of Jefferson. But opposed most of what Jefferson stood for.

correct therefore modern Republicans are similar or identical to Jeffersonian Republicans and not Lincoln Republicans.

Isn't learning fun?

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Lincoln Republicans strongly advocated a strong federal government. The Democratic Republican party was much more about State power over the Federal government.

So there's no direct connection between them. Not historically, not philosophically.

dear, lets do our ABC's shall we?

1) From Plato and Aristotle forward history was defined and the battle between freedom and govt

2) as you say, Lincoln Republicans were about strong federal govt while Jefferson Republicans were for freedom from govt. Therefore, modern Republicans are similar to Jeffersonian Republicans not Lincoln Republicans.

Then you admit that the founding of the GOP had no historical or philosophical roots to the Democratic Republican party.

Good.

too stupid I never said anything about the Democratic Republican party

 

[Skylar]

, the two founders of the Democratic Republican party used the term 'Republican Party' or 'Republican Interest' when describing it in their own correspondence.

so then why do you lie as a liberal and call it the Democratic Republican party?? Jefferson and Madison are not good enough sources??

Because it was also called the Democratic Republican party. And it had nothing to do with the founding of the GOP. The GOP when founded was explicitly opposed to almost all of what the Democratic Republicans supported, favoring a strong federal government and opposition to slavery. Whereas the Democratic Republicans had no opposition to slavery and favored states over the federal government.

The Republican Party as it exists now was not founded by Jefferson. Its that simple.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Just amazing the number of upstanding members of the party of morals have been caught in these situations, not only In the political arena, but people I personally know. Not that The Dems are any better....,but THE PARTY OF MORALS?

dear why not stop being stupid and tell us if you have a reason a think the libeal philosophy is superior and what that reason is or simply admit you lack the IQ to be here??

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Because it was also called the Democratic Republican party. .

if it was called that in the 18th Century I'll pay you $10,000. Bet??or run away once again

 

[Skylar]

Lincoln Republicans strongly advocated a strong federal government. The Democratic Republican party was much more about State power over the Federal government.

So there's no direct connection between them. Not historically, not philosophically.

dear, lets do our ABC's shall we?

1) From Plato and Aristotle forward history was defined and the battle between freedom and govt

2) as you say, Lincoln Republicans were about strong federal govt while Jefferson Republicans were for freedom from govt. Therefore, modern Republicans are similar to Jeffersonian Republicans not Lincoln Republicans.

Then you admit that the founding of the GOP had no historical or philosophical roots to the Democratic Republican party.

Good.

too stupid I never said anything about the Democratic Republican party

Ah. Semantic games. Very well...we'll call it the 'Party founded by Jefferson'. Which you have said.

Do you acknowledge that the founding of the GOP had no historical nor philosophical roots with the party founded by Jefferson?

That the GOP when founded was much more analogous to the Federalists in their approach to the relationship of the State and Federal government?

That the GOP when founded opposed slavery while the party that Jefferson founded supported it?

That almost point for point the party platform of the GOP at its founding and the party that Jefferson founded opposed one another?

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

The GOP when founded was explicitly opposed to almost all of what the Democratic Republicans supported, favoring a strong federal government .

yes dear so that makes the modern Republican Party similar to the Jefferson Republican Party, not the Lincoln Republican Party.

Isn't thinking fun??

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Very well...we'll call it the 'Party founded by Jefferson'.

Too stupid and liberal !!! Why not call it the Republican Party as its founders, Jefferson and Madison did???????????????????????????

Slow???????????

 

[Skylar]

Because it was also called the Democratic Republican party. .

if it was called that in the 18th Century I'll pay you $10,000. Bet??or run away once again

So if I can find any source that referred to it as the 'Democratic Republicans' in the 18th century....you'll give me $10,000?

 

[Skylar]

Very well...we'll call it the 'Party founded by Jefferson'.

Too stupid and liberal !!! Why not call it the Republican Party as its founders, Jefferson and Madison did???????????????????????????

Slow???????????

Huh....you won't even touch my questions, will you? Why? Because we both know I'm right.

Do you acknowledge that the founding of the GOP had no historical nor philosophical roots with the party founded by Jefferson?

That the GOP when founded was much more analogous to the Federalists in their approach to the relationship of the State and Federal government?

That the GOP when founded opposed slavery while the party that Jefferson founded supported it?

That almost point for point the party platform of the GOP at its founding and the party that Jefferson founded opposed one another?

Keep running.