Democrats Attempt to Destroy America

[Redfish]

Democrats attempt to destroy America


The Democrats and other liberal fanatics aren't trying to destroy America.
They're trying to transform it into something they think is better.

They are unaware (or they refuse to believe) that the transformation they intend, will result in its deterioration, increasing poverty, less freedom, and its eventual destruction. Even though that has been the result when their "new ideas" have been tried on other large countries, nearly every time.

They believe that if they INTEND to transform it into something better, that's the only thing we need to consider when evaluating their schemes. Good intentions make for good programs, every time.

No proof is needed. Fortunately for them.

And unfortunately for the rest of the country.

So you think that putting the country back on the hook to bail out a handful of banks for their dangerous bets ......That's what caused our last meltdown.......and allowing super rich donors to increase their bids to buy politicians by 10 times are good for the country? You got any proof that either of those things will make life better for anyone but the super rich?

".That's what caused our last meltdown."

Wrong again.

What caused the mortgage meltdown was Democrats ignoring the Constitution, article 1, section 8, and deciding that the federal government should meddle in the private housing industry.


1. Democrat FDR shredded the Constitution....ignoring article I, section 8, the enumerated powers.
He created GSE's Fannie and Freddie to do something the Constitution didn't authorize: meddle in housing.


2. Democrat Carter....the CRA, constraining banking policy


3. Democrat Clinton....strengthened the CRA
Under Clinton, HUD threatened banks, again, to give unrequited loans.
Henchmen: Democrats Cisneros and Cuomo.


4. Democrats Frank and Dodd barred any governmental discipline in this area.



That's the CliffNotes version.
I don't believe you can handle the details.

Once more since you stick to your LIES


Right-wingers Want To Erase How George Bush's "Homeowner Society" Helped Cause The Economic Collapse


Q When did the Bush Mortgage Bubble start?

A The general timeframe is it started late 2004.

From Bush’s President’s Working Group on Financial Markets October 2008

“The Presidents Working Group’s March policy statement acknowledged that turmoil in financial markets clearly was triggered by a dramatic weakening of underwriting standards for U.S. subprime mortgages, beginning in late 2004 and extending into 2007.”



Q Did the Community Reinvestment Act under Carter/Clinton caused it?


A "Since 1995 there has been essentially no change in the basic CRA rules or enforcement process that can be reasonably linked to the subprime lending activity. This fact weakens the link between the CRA and the current crisis since the crisis is rooted in poor performance of mortgage loans made between 2004 and 2007. "


..."Another form of easing facilitated the rapid rise of mortgages that didn't require borrowers to fully document their incomes. In 2006, these low- or no-doc loans comprised 81 percent of near-prime, 55 percent of jumbo, 50 percent of subprime and 36 percent of prime securitized mortgages."

Q HOLY JESUS! DID YOU JUST PROVE THAT OVER 50 % OF ALL MORTGAGES IN 2006 DIDN'T REQUIRE BORROWERS TO DOCUMENT THEIR INCOME?!?!?!?

A Yes.




Q WHO THE HELL LOANS HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS TO PEOPLE WITHOUT CHECKING THEIR INCOMES?!?!?

A Banks.

Q WHY??!?!!!?!

A Two reasons, greed and Bush's regulators let them

FACTS on Dubya s great recession US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum

"When did the Bush Mortgage Bubble start?"

When Democrat Franklin Roosevelt created Fannie Mae in in 1938.

Democrat Feinstein and the rest of the Liberal/Progressive clique are liars.



3. " Lesley Stahl interviews the former head of the CIA's Clandestine Service about waterboarding and other methods he says were essential to getting information from suspected terrorists, and he denies claims that these harsh measures caused detainees to provide false or unreliable information that misled the CIA. In fact, Rodriguez says that high-level detainees Khalid Sheik Mohammed and Abu Zubaydah provided their best information only after harsh treatment, a claim that the CIA's own investigator general has challenged."
Hard Measures Ex-CIA head defends post-9 11 tactics - CBS News




4. " WASHINGTON -- Congressional leaders were briefed in detail about techniques used in the Central Intelligence Agency's interrogation program, according to a new intelligence document.

The document appears to conflict with recent statements from House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, who was then the top Democrat on the House intelligence committee. Ms. Pelosi has said she hadn't been told that the CIA was using the technique known as waterboarding, or simulated drowning. According to the document, Ms. Pelosi was one of the first lawmakers briefed on the interrogations in 2002." CIA Says It Briefed Congressional Leaders - WSJ



a. "The leaders of the Senate and House Intelligence Committees and of both parties in Congress were briefed on the program more than 40 times between 2002 and 2009. But Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.)tried to denythat she was told in 2002 that detainees had been waterboarded. That is simply not true. I was among those who briefed her." Today s CIA critics once urged the agency to do anything to fight al-Qaeda - The Washington Post



' The Constitution is not a"suicide pact."So wrote Robert Jackson in 1949.'
Constitution Is Not a Suicide Pact Charles J. Reid Jr.




It is if the Liberals/Progressives of the Democrat Party have their way.

Answering only yes or no,

would you object to Americans being tortured by an enemy? Would you withdraw your objection if the enemy could demonstrate that they had obtained actionable intelligence from the tortured Americans?

your question is moot. The USA has not tortured anyone. Waterboarding and sleep deprivation are not torture.

So you have no moral, legal, ethical objection to an enemy waterboarding captured Americans?

You will take the side of the enemy if that issue ever comes up?

Can you promise to do that?

the japanese did it during WW2. American GIs are waterboarded as part of their training. We dropped two nuclear bombs on Japan and killed hundreds of thousands. War is hell. There are no rules in war except kill the enemy before he kills you.

you liberal pussies need to wake up and understand how the real world works.

You didn't answer the questions.

btw, I'm a veteran and no we were not waterboarded as part of our training.

many were, maybe the band was exempt.

our enemies are going to do what they are going to do. Are you really so naive that you think radical muslim terrorists will follow the geneva convention?

I would not want any american to be tortured. As to waterboarding, KSM had it done over 100 times and he is still mentally and physically healthy. it is not torture.

 

[peach174]

Democrat Feinstein and the rest of the Liberal/Progressive clique are liars.



3. " Lesley Stahl interviews the former head of the CIA's Clandestine Service about water boarding and other methods he says were essential to getting information from suspected terrorists, and he denies claims that these harsh measures caused detainees to provide false or unreliable information that misled the CIA. In fact, Rodriguez says that high-level detainees Khalid Sheik Mohammed and Abu Zubaydah provided their best information only after harsh treatment, a claim that the CIA's own investigator general has challenged."
Hard Measures Ex-CIA head defends post-9 11 tactics - CBS News




4. " WASHINGTON -- Congressional leaders were briefed in detail about techniques used in the Central Intelligence Agency's interrogation program, according to a new intelligence document.

The document appears to conflict with recent statements from House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, who was then the top Democrat on the House intelligence committee. Ms. Pelosi has said she hadn't been told that the CIA was using the technique known as water boarding, or simulated drowning. According to the document, Ms. Pelosi was one of the first lawmakers briefed on the interrogations in 2002." CIA Says It Briefed Congressional Leaders - WSJ



a. "The leaders of the Senate and House Intelligence Committees and of both parties in Congress were briefed on the program more than 40 times between 2002 and 2009. But Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.)tried to denythat she was told in 2002 that detainees had been water boarding. That is simply not true. I was among those who briefed her." Today s CIA critics once urged the agency to do anything to fight al-Qaeda - The Washington Post



' The Constitution is not a"suicide pact."So wrote Robert Jackson in 1949.'
Constitution Is Not a Suicide Pact Charles J. Reid Jr.




It is if the Liberals/Progressives of the Democrat Party have their way.

Answering only yes or no,

would you object to Americans being tortured by an enemy? Would you withdraw your objection if the enemy could demonstrate that they had obtained actionable intelligence from the tortured Americans?

your question is moot. The USA has not tortured anyone. Water boarding and sleep deprivation are not torture.

So you have no moral, legal, ethical objection to an enemy water boarding captured Americans?

You will take the side of the enemy if that issue ever comes up?

Can you promise to do that?

That's why our military trains our solders with Water Boarding so that they are able to resist real tortures.
Our enemy of today is beheading them, not Water boarding them.
Do you support them beheading their enemies?

 

[TooTall]

Democrat Feinstein and the rest of the Liberal/Progressive clique are liars.



3. " Lesley Stahl interviews the former head of the CIA's Clandestine Service about waterboarding and other methods he says were essential to getting information from suspected terrorists, and he denies claims that these harsh measures caused detainees to provide false or unreliable information that misled the CIA. In fact, Rodriguez says that high-level detainees Khalid Sheik Mohammed and Abu Zubaydah provided their best information only after harsh treatment, a claim that the CIA's own investigator general has challenged."
Hard Measures Ex-CIA head defends post-9 11 tactics - CBS News




4. " WASHINGTON -- Congressional leaders were briefed in detail about techniques used in the Central Intelligence Agency's interrogation program, according to a new intelligence document.

The document appears to conflict with recent statements from House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, who was then the top Democrat on the House intelligence committee. Ms. Pelosi has said she hadn't been told that the CIA was using the technique known as waterboarding, or simulated drowning. According to the document, Ms. Pelosi was one of the first lawmakers briefed on the interrogations in 2002." CIA Says It Briefed Congressional Leaders - WSJ



a. "The leaders of the Senate and House Intelligence Committees and of both parties in Congress were briefed on the program more than 40 times between 2002 and 2009. But Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.)tried to denythat she was told in 2002 that detainees had been waterboarded. That is simply not true. I was among those who briefed her." Today s CIA critics once urged the agency to do anything to fight al-Qaeda - The Washington Post



' The Constitution is not a"suicide pact."So wrote Robert Jackson in 1949.'
Constitution Is Not a Suicide Pact Charles J. Reid Jr.




It is if the Liberals/Progressives of the Democrat Party have their way.

Answering only yes or no,

would you object to Americans being tortured by an enemy? Would you withdraw your objection if the enemy could demonstrate that they had obtained actionable intelligence from the tortured Americans?

your question is moot. The USA has not tortured anyone. Waterboarding and sleep deprivation are not torture.

So you have no moral, legal, ethical objection to an enemy waterboarding captured Americans?

You will take the side of the enemy if that issue ever comes up?

Can you promise to do that?

The present alternative to waterboarding is cutting captured Americans head off and posting it in a video. Do you think that cutting their head off is more moral, legal, and ethical than waterboarding?

 

[Redfish]

Democrat Feinstein and the rest of the Liberal/Progressive clique are liars.



3. " Lesley Stahl interviews the former head of the CIA's Clandestine Service about water boarding and other methods he says were essential to getting information from suspected terrorists, and he denies claims that these harsh measures caused detainees to provide false or unreliable information that misled the CIA. In fact, Rodriguez says that high-level detainees Khalid Sheik Mohammed and Abu Zubaydah provided their best information only after harsh treatment, a claim that the CIA's own investigator general has challenged."
Hard Measures Ex-CIA head defends post-9 11 tactics - CBS News




4. " WASHINGTON -- Congressional leaders were briefed in detail about techniques used in the Central Intelligence Agency's interrogation program, according to a new intelligence document.

The document appears to conflict with recent statements from House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, who was then the top Democrat on the House intelligence committee. Ms. Pelosi has said she hadn't been told that the CIA was using the technique known as water boarding, or simulated drowning. According to the document, Ms. Pelosi was one of the first lawmakers briefed on the interrogations in 2002." CIA Says It Briefed Congressional Leaders - WSJ



a. "The leaders of the Senate and House Intelligence Committees and of both parties in Congress were briefed on the program more than 40 times between 2002 and 2009. But Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.)tried to denythat she was told in 2002 that detainees had been water boarding. That is simply not true. I was among those who briefed her." Today s CIA critics once urged the agency to do anything to fight al-Qaeda - The Washington Post



' The Constitution is not a"suicide pact."So wrote Robert Jackson in 1949.'
Constitution Is Not a Suicide Pact Charles J. Reid Jr.




It is if the Liberals/Progressives of the Democrat Party have their way.

Answering only yes or no,

would you object to Americans being tortured by an enemy? Would you withdraw your objection if the enemy could demonstrate that they had obtained actionable intelligence from the tortured Americans?

your question is moot. The USA has not tortured anyone. Water boarding and sleep deprivation are not torture.

So you have no moral, legal, ethical objection to an enemy water boarding captured Americans?

You will take the side of the enemy if that issue ever comes up?

Can you promise to do that?

That's why our military trains our solders with Water Boarding so that they are able to resist real tortures.
Our enemy of today is beheading them, not Water boarding them.
Do you support them beheading their enemies?

he probably does because the mean ole USA hurt their feeeeeeeeeeeeeeeelings.

 

[peach174]

Democrats attempt to destroy America


The Democrats and other liberal fanatics aren't trying to destroy America.
They're trying to transform it into something they think is better.

They are unaware (or they refuse to believe) that the transformation they intend, will result in its deterioration, increasing poverty, less freedom, and its eventual destruction. Even though that has been the result when their "new ideas" have been tried on other large countries, nearly every time.

They believe that if they INTEND to transform it into something better, that's the only thing we need to consider when evaluating their schemes. Good intentions make for good programs, every time.

No proof is needed. Fortunately for them.

And unfortunately for the rest of the country.

So you think that putting the country back on the hook to bail out a handful of banks for their dangerous bets ......That's what caused our last meltdown.......and allowing super rich donors to increase their bids to buy politicians by 10 times are good for the country? You got any proof that either of those things will make life better for anyone but the super rich?

".That's what caused our last meltdown."

Wrong again.

What caused the mortgage meltdown was Democrats ignoring the Constitution, article 1, section 8, and deciding that the federal government should meddle in the private housing industry.


1. Democrat FDR shredded the Constitution....ignoring article I, section 8, the enumerated powers.
He created GSE's Fannie and Freddie to do something the Constitution didn't authorize: meddle in housing.


2. Democrat Carter....the CRA, constraining banking policy


3. Democrat Clinton....strengthened the CRA
Under Clinton, HUD threatened banks, again, to give unrequited loans.
Henchmen: Democrats Cisneros and Cuomo.


4. Democrats Frank and Dodd barred any governmental discipline in this area.



That's the CliffNotes version.
I don't believe you can handle the details.

Once more since you stick to your LIES


Right-wingers Want To Erase How George Bush's "Homeowner Society" Helped Cause The Economic Collapse


Q When did the Bush Mortgage Bubble start?

A The general timeframe is it started late 2004.

From Bush’s President’s Working Group on Financial Markets October 2008

“The Presidents Working Group’s March policy statement acknowledged that turmoil in financial markets clearly was triggered by a dramatic weakening of underwriting standards for U.S. subprime mortgages, beginning in late 2004 and extending into 2007.”



Q Did the Community Reinvestment Act under Carter/Clinton caused it?


A "Since 1995 there has been essentially no change in the basic CRA rules or enforcement process that can be reasonably linked to the subprime lending activity. This fact weakens the link between the CRA and the current crisis since the crisis is rooted in poor performance of mortgage loans made between 2004 and 2007. "


..."Another form of easing facilitated the rapid rise of mortgages that didn't require borrowers to fully document their incomes. In 2006, these low- or no-doc loans comprised 81 percent of near-prime, 55 percent of jumbo, 50 percent of subprime and 36 percent of prime securitized mortgages."

Q HOLY JESUS! DID YOU JUST PROVE THAT OVER 50 % OF ALL MORTGAGES IN 2006 DIDN'T REQUIRE BORROWERS TO DOCUMENT THEIR INCOME?!?!?!?

A Yes.




Q WHO THE HELL LOANS HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS TO PEOPLE WITHOUT CHECKING THEIR INCOMES?!?!?

A Banks.

Q WHY??!?!!!?!

A Two reasons, greed and Bush's regulators let them

FACTS on Dubya s great recession US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum

"When did the Bush Mortgage Bubble start?"

When Democrat Franklin Roosevelt created Fannie Mae in in 1938.

Democrat Feinstein and the rest of the Liberal/Progressive clique are liars.



3. " Lesley Stahl interviews the former head of the CIA's Clandestine Service about waterboarding and other methods he says were essential to getting information from suspected terrorists, and he denies claims that these harsh measures caused detainees to provide false or unreliable information that misled the CIA. In fact, Rodriguez says that high-level detainees Khalid Sheik Mohammed and Abu Zubaydah provided their best information only after harsh treatment, a claim that the CIA's own investigator general has challenged."
Hard Measures Ex-CIA head defends post-9 11 tactics - CBS News




4. " WASHINGTON -- Congressional leaders were briefed in detail about techniques used in the Central Intelligence Agency's interrogation program, according to a new intelligence document.

The document appears to conflict with recent statements from House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, who was then the top Democrat on the House intelligence committee. Ms. Pelosi has said she hadn't been told that the CIA was using the technique known as waterboarding, or simulated drowning. According to the document, Ms. Pelosi was one of the first lawmakers briefed on the interrogations in 2002." CIA Says It Briefed Congressional Leaders - WSJ



a. "The leaders of the Senate and House Intelligence Committees and of both parties in Congress were briefed on the program more than 40 times between 2002 and 2009. But Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.)tried to denythat she was told in 2002 that detainees had been waterboarded. That is simply not true. I was among those who briefed her." Today s CIA critics once urged the agency to do anything to fight al-Qaeda - The Washington Post



' The Constitution is not a"suicide pact."So wrote Robert Jackson in 1949.'
Constitution Is Not a Suicide Pact Charles J. Reid Jr.




It is if the Liberals/Progressives of the Democrat Party have their way.

Answering only yes or no,

would you object to Americans being tortured by an enemy? Would you withdraw your objection if the enemy could demonstrate that they had obtained actionable intelligence from the tortured Americans?

your question is moot. The USA has not tortured anyone. Waterboarding and sleep deprivation are not torture.

So you have no moral, legal, ethical objection to an enemy waterboarding captured Americans?

You will take the side of the enemy if that issue ever comes up?

Can you promise to do that?

the japanese did it during WW2. American GIs are waterboarded as part of their training. We dropped two nuclear bombs on Japan and killed hundreds of thousands. War is hell. There are no rules in war except kill the enemy before he kills you.

you liberal pussies need to wake up and understand how the real world works.

You didn't answer the questions.

btw, I'm a veteran and no we were not waterboarded as part of our training.

All that means is you were not a part of a special operations unit.

 

[Dad2three]

Actually, the United States doesn't torture.



It's even easier to smear with finger paints than cartoons, dope.

"Actually, the United States doesn't torture" NOW THAT DUBYA IS GONE

Fixed ir for you

Now they know that they can cut Americans heads off, put it in a video and don't have to worry about a thing if they are captured. It is good to give them peace of mind, don't you agree?

So by torturing them they'll stop???? lol

Or we just get to race to the bottom and behave as badly as the worst actors? Weird, I thought the US was supposed to be the 'good guys'????

You are right of course. Why don't we just call in a drone strike and kill them? That makes us look like the 'good guys' to the rest of the world. of course we do have to kill all of them to be effective.

You mean the drone strike the right LOVES?

 

[Dad2three]

Democrats attempt to destroy America


The Democrats and other liberal fanatics aren't trying to destroy America.
They're trying to transform it into something they think is better.

They are unaware (or they refuse to believe) that the transformation they intend, will result in its deterioration, increasing poverty, less freedom, and its eventual destruction. Even though that has been the result when their "new ideas" have been tried on other large countries, nearly every time.

They believe that if they INTEND to transform it into something better, that's the only thing we need to consider when evaluating their schemes. Good intentions make for good programs, every time.

No proof is needed. Fortunately for them.

And unfortunately for the rest of the country.

Sure, lol. He caused Ronnie's S&L crisis too?


So you think that putting the country back on the hook to bail out a handful of banks for their dangerous bets ......That's what caused our last meltdown.......and allowing super rich donors to increase their bids to buy politicians by 10 times are good for the country? You got any proof that either of those things will make life better for anyone but the super rich?

".That's what caused our last meltdown."

Wrong again.

What caused the mortgage meltdown was Democrats ignoring the Constitution, article 1, section 8, and deciding that the federal government should meddle in the private housing industry.


1. Democrat FDR shredded the Constitution....ignoring article I, section 8, the enumerated powers.
He created GSE's Fannie and Freddie to do something the Constitution didn't authorize: meddle in housing.


2. Democrat Carter....the CRA, constraining banking policy


3. Democrat Clinton....strengthened the CRA
Under Clinton, HUD threatened banks, again, to give unrequited loans.
Henchmen: Democrats Cisneros and Cuomo.


4. Democrats Frank and Dodd barred any governmental discipline in this area.



That's the CliffNotes version.
I don't believe you can handle the details.

Once more since you stick to your LIES


Right-wingers Want To Erase How George Bush's "Homeowner Society" Helped Cause The Economic Collapse


Q When did the Bush Mortgage Bubble start?

A The general timeframe is it started late 2004.

From Bush’s President’s Working Group on Financial Markets October 2008

“The Presidents Working Group’s March policy statement acknowledged that turmoil in financial markets clearly was triggered by a dramatic weakening of underwriting standards for U.S. subprime mortgages, beginning in late 2004 and extending into 2007.”



Q Did the Community Reinvestment Act under Carter/Clinton caused it?


A "Since 1995 there has been essentially no change in the basic CRA rules or enforcement process that can be reasonably linked to the subprime lending activity. This fact weakens the link between the CRA and the current crisis since the crisis is rooted in poor performance of mortgage loans made between 2004 and 2007. "


..."Another form of easing facilitated the rapid rise of mortgages that didn't require borrowers to fully document their incomes. In 2006, these low- or no-doc loans comprised 81 percent of near-prime, 55 percent of jumbo, 50 percent of subprime and 36 percent of prime securitized mortgages."

Q HOLY JESUS! DID YOU JUST PROVE THAT OVER 50 % OF ALL MORTGAGES IN 2006 DIDN'T REQUIRE BORROWERS TO DOCUMENT THEIR INCOME?!?!?!?

A Yes.




Q WHO THE HELL LOANS HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS TO PEOPLE WITHOUT CHECKING THEIR INCOMES?!?!?

A Banks.

Q WHY??!?!!!?!

A Two reasons, greed and Bush's regulators let them

FACTS on Dubya s great recession US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum

"When did the Bush Mortgage Bubble start?"

When Democrat Franklin Roosevelt created Fannie Mae in in 1938.

You blaming Ronnie's S&L crisis on him too? lol

 

[NYcarbineer]

So you think that putting the country back on the hook to bail out a handful of banks for their dangerous bets ......That's what caused our last meltdown.......and allowing super rich donors to increase their bids to buy politicians by 10 times are good for the country? You got any proof that either of those things will make life better for anyone but the super rich?

".That's what caused our last meltdown."

Wrong again.

What caused the mortgage meltdown was Democrats ignoring the Constitution, article 1, section 8, and deciding that the federal government should meddle in the private housing industry.


1. Democrat FDR shredded the Constitution....ignoring article I, section 8, the enumerated powers.
He created GSE's Fannie and Freddie to do something the Constitution didn't authorize: meddle in housing.


2. Democrat Carter....the CRA, constraining banking policy


3. Democrat Clinton....strengthened the CRA
Under Clinton, HUD threatened banks, again, to give unrequited loans.
Henchmen: Democrats Cisneros and Cuomo.


4. Democrats Frank and Dodd barred any governmental discipline in this area.



That's the CliffNotes version.
I don't believe you can handle the details.

Once more since you stick to your LIES


Right-wingers Want To Erase How George Bush's "Homeowner Society" Helped Cause The Economic Collapse


Q When did the Bush Mortgage Bubble start?

A The general timeframe is it started late 2004.

From Bush’s President’s Working Group on Financial Markets October 2008

“The Presidents Working Group’s March policy statement acknowledged that turmoil in financial markets clearly was triggered by a dramatic weakening of underwriting standards for U.S. subprime mortgages, beginning in late 2004 and extending into 2007.”



Q Did the Community Reinvestment Act under Carter/Clinton caused it?


A "Since 1995 there has been essentially no change in the basic CRA rules or enforcement process that can be reasonably linked to the subprime lending activity. This fact weakens the link between the CRA and the current crisis since the crisis is rooted in poor performance of mortgage loans made between 2004 and 2007. "


..."Another form of easing facilitated the rapid rise of mortgages that didn't require borrowers to fully document their incomes. In 2006, these low- or no-doc loans comprised 81 percent of near-prime, 55 percent of jumbo, 50 percent of subprime and 36 percent of prime securitized mortgages."

Q HOLY JESUS! DID YOU JUST PROVE THAT OVER 50 % OF ALL MORTGAGES IN 2006 DIDN'T REQUIRE BORROWERS TO DOCUMENT THEIR INCOME?!?!?!?

A Yes.




Q WHO THE HELL LOANS HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS TO PEOPLE WITHOUT CHECKING THEIR INCOMES?!?!?

A Banks.

Q WHY??!?!!!?!

A Two reasons, greed and Bush's regulators let them

FACTS on Dubya s great recession US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum

"When did the Bush Mortgage Bubble start?"

When Democrat Franklin Roosevelt created Fannie Mae in in 1938.

Answering only yes or no,

would you object to Americans being tortured by an enemy? Would you withdraw your objection if the enemy could demonstrate that they had obtained actionable intelligence from the tortured Americans?

your question is moot. The USA has not tortured anyone. Waterboarding and sleep deprivation are not torture.

So you have no moral, legal, ethical objection to an enemy waterboarding captured Americans?

You will take the side of the enemy if that issue ever comes up?

Can you promise to do that?

the japanese did it during WW2. American GIs are waterboarded as part of their training. We dropped two nuclear bombs on Japan and killed hundreds of thousands. War is hell. There are no rules in war except kill the enemy before he kills you.

you liberal pussies need to wake up and understand how the real world works.

You didn't answer the questions.

btw, I'm a veteran and no we were not waterboarded as part of our training.

All that means is you were not a part of a special operations unit.

All it means is that training Americans for possibly being waterboarded does not mean waterboarding is not torture.

 

[Redfish]

Actually, the United States doesn't torture.



It's even easier to smear with finger paints than cartoons, dope.

"Actually, the United States doesn't torture" NOW THAT DUBYA IS GONE

Fixed ir for you

Now they know that they can cut Americans heads off, put it in a video and don't have to worry about a thing if they are captured. It is good to give them peace of mind, don't you agree?

So by torturing them they'll stop???? lol

Or we just get to race to the bottom and behave as badly as the worst actors? Weird, I thought the US was supposed to be the 'good guys'????

You are right of course. Why don't we just call in a drone strike and kill them? That makes us look like the 'good guys' to the rest of the world. of course we do have to kill all of them to be effective.

You mean the drone strike the right LOVES?

lets see here, you are OK with drone strikes that kill innocent kids, but think its wrong to squirt water up the nose of a know terrorist murderer. Are you totally out of your mind?

 

[Redfish]

".That's what caused our last meltdown."

Wrong again.

What caused the mortgage meltdown was Democrats ignoring the Constitution, article 1, section 8, and deciding that the federal government should meddle in the private housing industry.


1. Democrat FDR shredded the Constitution....ignoring article I, section 8, the enumerated powers.
He created GSE's Fannie and Freddie to do something the Constitution didn't authorize: meddle in housing.


2. Democrat Carter....the CRA, constraining banking policy


3. Democrat Clinton....strengthened the CRA
Under Clinton, HUD threatened banks, again, to give unrequited loans.
Henchmen: Democrats Cisneros and Cuomo.


4. Democrats Frank and Dodd barred any governmental discipline in this area.



That's the CliffNotes version.
I don't believe you can handle the details.

Once more since you stick to your LIES


Right-wingers Want To Erase How George Bush's "Homeowner Society" Helped Cause The Economic Collapse


Q When did the Bush Mortgage Bubble start?

A The general timeframe is it started late 2004.

From Bush’s President’s Working Group on Financial Markets October 2008

“The Presidents Working Group’s March policy statement acknowledged that turmoil in financial markets clearly was triggered by a dramatic weakening of underwriting standards for U.S. subprime mortgages, beginning in late 2004 and extending into 2007.”



Q Did the Community Reinvestment Act under Carter/Clinton caused it?


A "Since 1995 there has been essentially no change in the basic CRA rules or enforcement process that can be reasonably linked to the subprime lending activity. This fact weakens the link between the CRA and the current crisis since the crisis is rooted in poor performance of mortgage loans made between 2004 and 2007. "


..."Another form of easing facilitated the rapid rise of mortgages that didn't require borrowers to fully document their incomes. In 2006, these low- or no-doc loans comprised 81 percent of near-prime, 55 percent of jumbo, 50 percent of subprime and 36 percent of prime securitized mortgages."

Q HOLY JESUS! DID YOU JUST PROVE THAT OVER 50 % OF ALL MORTGAGES IN 2006 DIDN'T REQUIRE BORROWERS TO DOCUMENT THEIR INCOME?!?!?!?

A Yes.




Q WHO THE HELL LOANS HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS TO PEOPLE WITHOUT CHECKING THEIR INCOMES?!?!?

A Banks.

Q WHY??!?!!!?!

A Two reasons, greed and Bush's regulators let them

FACTS on Dubya s great recession US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum

"When did the Bush Mortgage Bubble start?"

When Democrat Franklin Roosevelt created Fannie Mae in in 1938.

your question is moot. The USA has not tortured anyone. Waterboarding and sleep deprivation are not torture.

So you have no moral, legal, ethical objection to an enemy waterboarding captured Americans?

You will take the side of the enemy if that issue ever comes up?

Can you promise to do that?

the japanese did it during WW2. American GIs are waterboarded as part of their training. We dropped two nuclear bombs on Japan and killed hundreds of thousands. War is hell. There are no rules in war except kill the enemy before he kills you.

you liberal pussies need to wake up and understand how the real world works.

You didn't answer the questions.

btw, I'm a veteran and no we were not waterboarded as part of our training.

All that means is you were not a part of a special operations unit.

All it means is that training Americans for possibly being waterboarded does not mean waterboarding is not torture.

so by your definition, the US is torturing its own soldiers????????????????

 

[NYcarbineer]

Democrat Feinstein and the rest of the Liberal/Progressive clique are liars.



3. " Lesley Stahl interviews the former head of the CIA's Clandestine Service about water boarding and other methods he says were essential to getting information from suspected terrorists, and he denies claims that these harsh measures caused detainees to provide false or unreliable information that misled the CIA. In fact, Rodriguez says that high-level detainees Khalid Sheik Mohammed and Abu Zubaydah provided their best information only after harsh treatment, a claim that the CIA's own investigator general has challenged."
Hard Measures Ex-CIA head defends post-9 11 tactics - CBS News




4. " WASHINGTON -- Congressional leaders were briefed in detail about techniques used in the Central Intelligence Agency's interrogation program, according to a new intelligence document.

The document appears to conflict with recent statements from House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, who was then the top Democrat on the House intelligence committee. Ms. Pelosi has said she hadn't been told that the CIA was using the technique known as water boarding, or simulated drowning. According to the document, Ms. Pelosi was one of the first lawmakers briefed on the interrogations in 2002." CIA Says It Briefed Congressional Leaders - WSJ



a. "The leaders of the Senate and House Intelligence Committees and of both parties in Congress were briefed on the program more than 40 times between 2002 and 2009. But Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.)tried to denythat she was told in 2002 that detainees had been water boarding. That is simply not true. I was among those who briefed her." Today s CIA critics once urged the agency to do anything to fight al-Qaeda - The Washington Post



' The Constitution is not a"suicide pact."So wrote Robert Jackson in 1949.'
Constitution Is Not a Suicide Pact Charles J. Reid Jr.




It is if the Liberals/Progressives of the Democrat Party have their way.

Answering only yes or no,

would you object to Americans being tortured by an enemy? Would you withdraw your objection if the enemy could demonstrate that they had obtained actionable intelligence from the tortured Americans?

your question is moot. The USA has not tortured anyone. Water boarding and sleep deprivation are not torture.

So you have no moral, legal, ethical objection to an enemy water boarding captured Americans?

You will take the side of the enemy if that issue ever comes up?

Can you promise to do that?

That's why our military trains our solders with Water Boarding so that they are able to resist real tortures.
Our enemy of today is beheading them, not Water boarding them.
Do you support them beheading their enemies?

Are you mentally retarded?

 

[NYcarbineer]

Once more since you stick to your LIES


Right-wingers Want To Erase How George Bush's "Homeowner Society" Helped Cause The Economic Collapse


Q When did the Bush Mortgage Bubble start?

A The general timeframe is it started late 2004.

From Bush’s President’s Working Group on Financial Markets October 2008

“The Presidents Working Group’s March policy statement acknowledged that turmoil in financial markets clearly was triggered by a dramatic weakening of underwriting standards for U.S. subprime mortgages, beginning in late 2004 and extending into 2007.”



Q Did the Community Reinvestment Act under Carter/Clinton caused it?


A "Since 1995 there has been essentially no change in the basic CRA rules or enforcement process that can be reasonably linked to the subprime lending activity. This fact weakens the link between the CRA and the current crisis since the crisis is rooted in poor performance of mortgage loans made between 2004 and 2007. "


..."Another form of easing facilitated the rapid rise of mortgages that didn't require borrowers to fully document their incomes. In 2006, these low- or no-doc loans comprised 81 percent of near-prime, 55 percent of jumbo, 50 percent of subprime and 36 percent of prime securitized mortgages."

Q HOLY JESUS! DID YOU JUST PROVE THAT OVER 50 % OF ALL MORTGAGES IN 2006 DIDN'T REQUIRE BORROWERS TO DOCUMENT THEIR INCOME?!?!?!?

A Yes.




Q WHO THE HELL LOANS HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS TO PEOPLE WITHOUT CHECKING THEIR INCOMES?!?!?

A Banks.

Q WHY??!?!!!?!

A Two reasons, greed and Bush's regulators let them

FACTS on Dubya s great recession US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum

"When did the Bush Mortgage Bubble start?"

When Democrat Franklin Roosevelt created Fannie Mae in in 1938.

So you have no moral, legal, ethical objection to an enemy waterboarding captured Americans?

You will take the side of the enemy if that issue ever comes up?

Can you promise to do that?

the japanese did it during WW2. American GIs are waterboarded as part of their training. We dropped two nuclear bombs on Japan and killed hundreds of thousands. War is hell. There are no rules in war except kill the enemy before he kills you.

you liberal pussies need to wake up and understand how the real world works.

You didn't answer the questions.

btw, I'm a veteran and no we were not waterboarded as part of our training.

All that means is you were not a part of a special operations unit.

All it means is that training Americans for possibly being waterboarded does not mean waterboarding is not torture.

so by your definition, the US is torturing its own soldiers????????????????

I'm waiting for your answers to my questions and then you'll get my answer.

 

[NYcarbineer]

"Actually, the United States doesn't torture" NOW THAT DUBYA IS GONE

Fixed ir for you

Now they know that they can cut Americans heads off, put it in a video and don't have to worry about a thing if they are captured. It is good to give them peace of mind, don't you agree?

So by torturing them they'll stop???? lol

Or we just get to race to the bottom and behave as badly as the worst actors? Weird, I thought the US was supposed to be the 'good guys'????

You are right of course. Why don't we just call in a drone strike and kill them? That makes us look like the 'good guys' to the rest of the world. of course we do have to kill all of them to be effective.

You mean the drone strike the right LOVES?

lets see here, you are OK with drone strikes that kill innocent kids, but think its wrong to squirt water up the nose of a know terrorist murderer. Are you totally out of your mind?

So you oppose any US military operation that might kill an innocent civilian in the process.

How do you propose we conduct military operations once all of the above have been banned?

 

[Dad2three]

It should be obvious. They are attempting to be transparent as long as they are shining the light on something that happened during the Bush Administration. Is it any wonder that they were kicked to the curb last month?

If that's the case, they would have been better off shining the light on odious Republican wrongdoings before the election instead of after. Now it's only good as a final "fuck you" before the new congress comes in. You know the repugs would have never let this report see the light of day. They only care about wrongdoings when a Democrat is involved.

It would have been rather difficult to do before the election since the leadership of the Democrats were briefed on the program by the CIA and were all in favor of it. If the Republicans had been involved in this report, the would have interviewed the targets of the report to get their side. If a witness lies under oath, unlike a congress critter, they could have been prosecuted.

Oh changed from Congress to leadership? lol

CIA misled lawmakers, public on enhanced interrogation
Senate torture report CIA misled lawmakers public on enhanced interrogation - CBS News



In early September 2002, the CIA briefed Pelosi and other top members on the House Intelligence Committee about the enhanced interrogation techniques. The members and staffers “questioned the legality of these techniques if other countries would use them,” but the CIA’s Counterterrorism Center legal staff deleted from a draft memo that sentence, according to the Senate Intelligence Committee’s new report. Rodriguez, who was CTC director at the time, replied in an email, “short and sweet.”


Pelosi’s definitive response has been the same since 2009, when she said that she was not told in the briefing that waterboarding or any other enhanced methods had already been used—even though they hand been She did recall then that the Administration did say those methods are legal. She added that she heard about the use of some of the EITs in early 2003, but did not speak out due to government secrecy rules and worked to ban the use of torture through legislation and electing a Democratic President in 2008.
Torture Report What Did Top Democrats Know

 

[Dad2three]

Even you have to know that is just stupid.

Your ignorance of reality is not my responsibility.

Ok...I'll play along for a while longer. How exactly are you trying to link liberals to a Russian song? Has it been performed by any liberal group or referenced in any way? Which liberal, or which liberal group adopted that song? If you think just picking outa video and assigning it to an opponent is valid, then check out this republican classic

These were the aims of the Communist Party of the United States as reported in Congress, 1963:

1. Develop the illusion that total disarmament [by] the United States would be a demonstration of moral strength.


2. Promote the U.N. as the only hope for mankind. If its charter is rewritten, demand that it be set up as a one-world government with its own independent armed forces.


3. Capture one or both of the political parties in the United States.

4. Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers' associations. Put the party line in textbooks.

5. Infiltrate the press. Get control of book-review assignments, editorial writing, policy-making positions.

6. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV, and motion pictures.


7. Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them "censorship" and a violation of free speech and free press.


8. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as "normal, natural, healthy."


9. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity, which does not need a "religious crutch."

10. Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate, old-fashioned, out of step with modern needs, a hindrance to cooperation between nations on a worldwide basis.


11. Discredit the American Founding Fathers. Present them as selfish aristocrats who had no concern for the "common man."

12. Support any socialist movement to give centralized control over any part of the culture--education, social agencies, welfare programs, mental health clinics, etc.


13. Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce


All are clearly the aims and direction of Democrats/Liberals/Progressive leaders.

The Communist Takeover Of America - 45 Declared Goals
The Communist Takeover Of America - 45 Declared Goals

LOL, You know ANYTHING can be put in the Congressional record? Right?

Remember Strom Thurmund reading the phone book filibustering civil rights? lol

But you are unable to deny that the Democrat Party endorses the very same aims as the Communist Party.

QED

More right wing nonsense. Shocking

 

[Dad2three]

Democrat Feinstein and the rest of the Liberal/Progressive clique are liars.



3. " Lesley Stahl interviews the former head of the CIA's Clandestine Service about waterboarding and other methods he says were essential to getting information from suspected terrorists, and he denies claims that these harsh measures caused detainees to provide false or unreliable information that misled the CIA. In fact, Rodriguez says that high-level detainees Khalid Sheik Mohammed and Abu Zubaydah provided their best information only after harsh treatment, a claim that the CIA's own investigator general has challenged."
Hard Measures Ex-CIA head defends post-9 11 tactics - CBS News




4. " WASHINGTON -- Congressional leaders were briefed in detail about techniques used in the Central Intelligence Agency's interrogation program, according to a new intelligence document.

The document appears to conflict with recent statements from House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, who was then the top Democrat on the House intelligence committee. Ms. Pelosi has said she hadn't been told that the CIA was using the technique known as waterboarding, or simulated drowning. According to the document, Ms. Pelosi was one of the first lawmakers briefed on the interrogations in 2002." CIA Says It Briefed Congressional Leaders - WSJ



a. "The leaders of the Senate and House Intelligence Committees and of both parties in Congress were briefed on the program more than 40 times between 2002 and 2009. But Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.)tried to denythat she was told in 2002 that detainees had been waterboarded. That is simply not true. I was among those who briefed her." Today s CIA critics once urged the agency to do anything to fight al-Qaeda - The Washington Post



' The Constitution is not a"suicide pact."So wrote Robert Jackson in 1949.'
Constitution Is Not a Suicide Pact Charles J. Reid Jr.




It is if the Liberals/Progressives of the Democrat Party have their way.

Answering only yes or no,

would you object to Americans being tortured by an enemy? Would you withdraw your objection if the enemy could demonstrate that they had obtained actionable intelligence from the tortured Americans?

your question is moot. The USA has not tortured anyone. Waterboarding and sleep deprivation are not torture.

"Our country executed Japanese soldiers who waterboarded American POWs. We executed them for the same crime we are now committing ourselves."

Yes i National Review i We Did Execute Japanese for Waterboarding Paul Begala

 

[TooTall]

Actually, the United States doesn't torture.



It's even easier to smear with finger paints than cartoons, dope.

"Actually, the United States doesn't torture" NOW THAT DUBYA IS GONE

Fixed ir for you

Now they know that they can cut Americans heads off, put it in a video and don't have to worry about a thing if they are captured. It is good to give them peace of mind, don't you agree?

So by torturing them they'll stop???? lol

Or we just get to race to the bottom and behave as badly as the worst actors? Weird, I thought the US was supposed to be the 'good guys'????

You are right of course. Why don't we just call in a drone strike and kill them? That makes us look like the 'good guys' to the rest of the world. of course we do have to kill all of them to be effective.

You mean the drone strike the right LOVES?

That's the one. You know,the one where Obama personally picks who gets killed today.

 

[Dad2three]

Democrat Feinstein and the rest of the Liberal/Progressive clique are liars.



3. " Lesley Stahl interviews the former head of the CIA's Clandestine Service about waterboarding and other methods he says were essential to getting information from suspected terrorists, and he denies claims that these harsh measures caused detainees to provide false or unreliable information that misled the CIA. In fact, Rodriguez says that high-level detainees Khalid Sheik Mohammed and Abu Zubaydah provided their best information only after harsh treatment, a claim that the CIA's own investigator general has challenged."
Hard Measures Ex-CIA head defends post-9 11 tactics - CBS News




4. " WASHINGTON -- Congressional leaders were briefed in detail about techniques used in the Central Intelligence Agency's interrogation program, according to a new intelligence document.

The document appears to conflict with recent statements from House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, who was then the top Democrat on the House intelligence committee. Ms. Pelosi has said she hadn't been told that the CIA was using the technique known as waterboarding, or simulated drowning. According to the document, Ms. Pelosi was one of the first lawmakers briefed on the interrogations in 2002." CIA Says It Briefed Congressional Leaders - WSJ



a. "The leaders of the Senate and House Intelligence Committees and of both parties in Congress were briefed on the program more than 40 times between 2002 and 2009. But Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.)tried to denythat she was told in 2002 that detainees had been waterboarded. That is simply not true. I was among those who briefed her." Today s CIA critics once urged the agency to do anything to fight al-Qaeda - The Washington Post



' The Constitution is not a"suicide pact."So wrote Robert Jackson in 1949.'
Constitution Is Not a Suicide Pact Charles J. Reid Jr.




It is if the Liberals/Progressives of the Democrat Party have their way.

Answering only yes or no,

would you object to Americans being tortured by an enemy? Would you withdraw your objection if the enemy could demonstrate that they had obtained actionable intelligence from the tortured Americans?

your question is moot. The USA has not tortured anyone. Waterboarding and sleep deprivation are not torture.

So you have no moral, legal, ethical objection to an enemy waterboarding captured Americans?

You will take the side of the enemy if that issue ever comes up?

Can you promise to do that?

the japanese did it during WW2. American GIs are waterboarded as part of their training. We dropped two nuclear bombs on Japan and killed hundreds of thousands. War is hell. There are no rules in war except kill the enemy before he kills you.

you liberal pussies need to wake up and understand how the real world works.

THERE ARE RULES IN WAR BUBBA

"Our country executed Japanese soldiers who waterboarded American POWs. "


Yes i National Review i We Did Execute Japanese for Waterboarding Paul Begala

 

[Dad2three]

So you think that putting the country back on the hook to bail out a handful of banks for their dangerous bets ......That's what caused our last meltdown.......and allowing super rich donors to increase their bids to buy politicians by 10 times are good for the country? You got any proof that either of those things will make life better for anyone but the super rich?

".That's what caused our last meltdown."

Wrong again.

What caused the mortgage meltdown was Democrats ignoring the Constitution, article 1, section 8, and deciding that the federal government should meddle in the private housing industry.


1. Democrat FDR shredded the Constitution....ignoring article I, section 8, the enumerated powers.
He created GSE's Fannie and Freddie to do something the Constitution didn't authorize: meddle in housing.


2. Democrat Carter....the CRA, constraining banking policy


3. Democrat Clinton....strengthened the CRA
Under Clinton, HUD threatened banks, again, to give unrequited loans.
Henchmen: Democrats Cisneros and Cuomo.


4. Democrats Frank and Dodd barred any governmental discipline in this area.



That's the CliffNotes version.
I don't believe you can handle the details.

Once more since you stick to your LIES


Right-wingers Want To Erase How George Bush's "Homeowner Society" Helped Cause The Economic Collapse


Q When did the Bush Mortgage Bubble start?

A The general timeframe is it started late 2004.

From Bush’s President’s Working Group on Financial Markets October 2008

“The Presidents Working Group’s March policy statement acknowledged that turmoil in financial markets clearly was triggered by a dramatic weakening of underwriting standards for U.S. subprime mortgages, beginning in late 2004 and extending into 2007.”



Q Did the Community Reinvestment Act under Carter/Clinton caused it?


A "Since 1995 there has been essentially no change in the basic CRA rules or enforcement process that can be reasonably linked to the subprime lending activity. This fact weakens the link between the CRA and the current crisis since the crisis is rooted in poor performance of mortgage loans made between 2004 and 2007. "


..."Another form of easing facilitated the rapid rise of mortgages that didn't require borrowers to fully document their incomes. In 2006, these low- or no-doc loans comprised 81 percent of near-prime, 55 percent of jumbo, 50 percent of subprime and 36 percent of prime securitized mortgages."

Q HOLY JESUS! DID YOU JUST PROVE THAT OVER 50 % OF ALL MORTGAGES IN 2006 DIDN'T REQUIRE BORROWERS TO DOCUMENT THEIR INCOME?!?!?!?

A Yes.




Q WHO THE HELL LOANS HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS TO PEOPLE WITHOUT CHECKING THEIR INCOMES?!?!?

A Banks.

Q WHY??!?!!!?!

A Two reasons, greed and Bush's regulators let them

FACTS on Dubya s great recession US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum

"When did the Bush Mortgage Bubble start?"

When Democrat Franklin Roosevelt created Fannie Mae in in 1938.

Answering only yes or no,

would you object to Americans being tortured by an enemy? Would you withdraw your objection if the enemy could demonstrate that they had obtained actionable intelligence from the tortured Americans?

your question is moot. The USA has not tortured anyone. Waterboarding and sleep deprivation are not torture.

So you have no moral, legal, ethical objection to an enemy waterboarding captured Americans?

You will take the side of the enemy if that issue ever comes up?

Can you promise to do that?

the japanese did it during WW2. American GIs are waterboarded as part of their training. We dropped two nuclear bombs on Japan and killed hundreds of thousands. War is hell. There are no rules in war except kill the enemy before he kills you.

you liberal pussies need to wake up and understand how the real world works.

You didn't answer the questions.

btw, I'm a veteran and no we were not waterboarded as part of our training.

many were, maybe the band was exempt.

our enemies are going to do what they are going to do. Are you really so naive that you think radical muslim terrorists will follow the geneva convention?

I would not want any american to be tortured. As to waterboarding, KSM had it done over 100 times and he is still mentally and physically healthy. it is not torture.

Since THEY don't follow the laws, that relieves US from following the laws? Weird, that seems like justification to kill people who don't follow laws?

 

[Dad2three]

"Actually, the United States doesn't torture" NOW THAT DUBYA IS GONE

Fixed ir for you

Now they know that they can cut Americans heads off, put it in a video and don't have to worry about a thing if they are captured. It is good to give them peace of mind, don't you agree?

So by torturing them they'll stop???? lol

Or we just get to race to the bottom and behave as badly as the worst actors? Weird, I thought the US was supposed to be the 'good guys'????

You are right of course. Why don't we just call in a drone strike and kill them? That makes us look like the 'good guys' to the rest of the world. of course we do have to kill all of them to be effective.

You mean the drone strike the right LOVES?

lets see here, you are OK with drone strikes that kill innocent kids, but think its wrong to squirt water up the nose of a know terrorist murderer. Are you totally out of your mind?

Right, it's the left that loves drones *shaking head*

You fukkking morons need to grow a brain