Democrat ties to Russian lawyer are now coming out.....

[Marianne]

WHY WOULD THE DNC SET UP TRUMP'S CAMPAIGN AND NOT USE IT BEFORE THE ELECTION AND INSTEAD WAIT UNTIL JULY THE FOLLOWING YEAR? IT MAKES NO FUCKING SENSE. THEY WOULD HAVE RELEASED THE INFO BEFORE THE ELECTION TO HELP CLINTON WIN.

GIVE IT UP... IT WAS NOT SOME KIND OF TRICKY SET UP!

You just tripped over your own argument, why was Russian issue only important after Hillary lost and not before to help her win?
DEMS were cheating the election left and right, so they never expected to lose and the set up meetings were part of that cheating mainly to allow them surveillance of their oppnonent and were never illegal to bring up before election, because they were all citizens. The only illegal thing that transpired was the spying on those citizens by the Dems for political motive, who used these Russians as agents to do so (perhaps without their knowledge).

Now they are whining and calling foul hoping to distract away from the Trump agenda so nothing gets done. If nothing gets done they are hoping that it will influence the next election, especially if they can find an impeachable offense against Trump. It's all bull shit. The most disturbing thing is there are RINO"s helping with this shit. Face it, most of the politicians in Washington DC are only there to line their own pockets so Tump must be disrupting that cash flow. Same as it's always been; follow the money.

There is no crying foul. Please list the last President impeached and removed from office.

Now if it was a set up that the DNC did so much hard work to set up... they sure as fuck aren't going to NOT use it before the election and help guarantee Clinton gets elected.

Releasing the info NINE MONTHS after the election isn't going to do jack shit. The odds of an actual impeachment is about 0.00001% and even the idiots in the DNC know that.

You make sure Trump NEVER BECOMES PRESIDENT IN THE FIRST PLACE!

If memory serves none. That doesn't mean they won't try and that doesn't mean it won't have an adverse effect on the next election.

Nigga please. The DNC was caught red handed with their hands in the cookie jar trying to rig the election. Ask Bernie all about that.

The reason they didn't " make sure Trump NEVER BECOMES PRESIDENT IN THE FIRST PLACE!" has already been given, they never thought for one minute they'd lose. It's not like they didn't try. They threw so much money and BS at Trump they thought he had no chance of winning. George Soro's must be pissed. lol

 

[Lewdog]

WHY WOULD THE DNC SET UP TRUMP'S CAMPAIGN AND NOT USE IT BEFORE THE ELECTION AND INSTEAD WAIT UNTIL JULY THE FOLLOWING YEAR? IT MAKES NO FUCKING SENSE. THEY WOULD HAVE RELEASED THE INFO BEFORE THE ELECTION TO HELP CLINTON WIN.

GIVE IT UP... IT WAS NOT SOME KIND OF TRICKY SET UP!

You just tripped over your own argument, why was Russian issue only important after Hillary lost and not before to help her win?
DEMS were cheating the election left and right, so they never expected to lose and the set up meetings were part of that cheating mainly to allow them surveillance of their oppnonent and were never illegal to bring up before election, because they were all citizens. The only illegal thing that transpired was the spying on those citizens by the Dems for political motive, who used these Russians as agents to do so (perhaps without their knowledge).

Now they are whining and calling foul hoping to distract away from the Trump agenda so nothing gets done. If nothing gets done they are hoping that it will influence the next election, especially if they can find an impeachable offense against Trump. It's all bull shit. The most disturbing thing is there are RINO"s helping with this shit. Face it, most of the politicians in Washington DC are only there to line their own pockets so Tump must be disrupting that cash flow. Same as it's always been; follow the money.

There is no crying foul. Please list the last President impeached and removed from office.

Now if it was a set up that the DNC did so much hard work to set up... they sure as fuck aren't going to NOT use it before the election and help guarantee Clinton gets elected.

Releasing the info NINE MONTHS after the election isn't going to do jack shit. The odds of an actual impeachment is about 0.00001% and even the idiots in the DNC know that.

You make sure Trump NEVER BECOMES PRESIDENT IN THE FIRST PLACE!

If memory serves none. That doesn't mean they won't try and that doesn't mean it won't have an adverse effect on the next election.

Nigga please. The DNC was caught red handed with their hands in the cookie jar trying to rig the election. Ask Bernie all about that.

The reason they didn't " make sure Trump NEVER BECOMES PRESIDENT IN THE FIRST PLACE!" has already been given, they never thought for one minute they'd lose. It's not like they didn't try. They threw so much money and BS at Trump they thought he had no chance of winning. George Soro's must be pissed. lol

Wrong, that is the LAMEST fucking excuse ever. IF it was a set up they sure as fuck would have used it. You don't take ANY chances whatsoever.

You people in these arguments crack me up. Every year there is a guy who breaks away for a touchdown and he doesn't think he is going to get caught and drops the ball on the one yard line like a fucking idiot. That's just a game...this is real life and these people will use any and every piece of dirt they have on each other to win, not stick it in their pocket for when it no longer matters.

Could you imagine how big on a deal this would have made in OCTOBER??? At the height of the Russian interference?

 

[Marianne]

WHY WOULD THE DNC SET UP TRUMP'S CAMPAIGN AND NOT USE IT BEFORE THE ELECTION AND INSTEAD WAIT UNTIL JULY THE FOLLOWING YEAR? IT MAKES NO FUCKING SENSE. THEY WOULD HAVE RELEASED THE INFO BEFORE THE ELECTION TO HELP CLINTON WIN.

GIVE IT UP... IT WAS NOT SOME KIND OF TRICKY SET UP!

You just tripped over your own argument, why was Russian issue only important after Hillary lost and not before to help her win?
DEMS were cheating the election left and right, so they never expected to lose and the set up meetings were part of that cheating mainly to allow them surveillance of their oppnonent and were never illegal to bring up before election, because they were all citizens. The only illegal thing that transpired was the spying on those citizens by the Dems for political motive, who used these Russians as agents to do so (perhaps without their knowledge).

Now they are whining and calling foul hoping to distract away from the Trump agenda so nothing gets done. If nothing gets done they are hoping that it will influence the next election, especially if they can find an impeachable offense against Trump. It's all bull shit. The most disturbing thing is there are RINO"s helping with this shit. Face it, most of the politicians in Washington DC are only there to line their own pockets so Tump must be disrupting that cash flow. Same as it's always been; follow the money.

There is no crying foul. Please list the last President impeached and removed from office.

Now if it was a set up that the DNC did so much hard work to set up... they sure as fuck aren't going to NOT use it before the election and help guarantee Clinton gets elected.

Releasing the info NINE MONTHS after the election isn't going to do jack shit. The odds of an actual impeachment is about 0.00001% and even the idiots in the DNC know that.

You make sure Trump NEVER BECOMES PRESIDENT IN THE FIRST PLACE!

If memory serves none. That doesn't mean they won't try and that doesn't mean it won't have an adverse effect on the next election.

Nigga please. The DNC was caught red handed with their hands in the cookie jar trying to rig the election. Ask Bernie all about that.

The reason they didn't " make sure Trump NEVER BECOMES PRESIDENT IN THE FIRST PLACE!" has already been given, they never thought for one minute they'd lose. It's not like they didn't try. They threw so much money and BS at Trump they thought he had no chance of winning. George Soro's must be pissed. lol

Wrong, that is the LAMEST fucking excuse ever. IF it was a set up they sure as fuck would have used it. You don't take ANY chances whatsoever.

You people in these arguments crack me up. Every year there is a guy who breaks away for a touchdown and he doesn't think he is going to get caught and drops the ball on the one yard line like a fucking idiot. That's just a game...this is real life and these people will use any and every piece of dirt they have on each other to win, not stick it in their pocket for when it no longer matters.

Could you imagine how big on a deal this would have made in OCTOBER??? At the height of the Russian interference?

Well explain to me something then. If Obama was in office in October as the President of the United States with the FBI and CIA at his disposal and all the liberal accusations over Russia are true. Who dropped the ball?

 

[Lewdog]

You just tripped over your own argument, why was Russian issue only important after Hillary lost and not before to help her win?
DEMS were cheating the election left and right, so they never expected to lose and the set up meetings were part of that cheating mainly to allow them surveillance of their oppnonent and were never illegal to bring up before election, because they were all citizens. The only illegal thing that transpired was the spying on those citizens by the Dems for political motive, who used these Russians as agents to do so (perhaps without their knowledge).

Now they are whining and calling foul hoping to distract away from the Trump agenda so nothing gets done. If nothing gets done they are hoping that it will influence the next election, especially if they can find an impeachable offense against Trump. It's all bull shit. The most disturbing thing is there are RINO"s helping with this shit. Face it, most of the politicians in Washington DC are only there to line their own pockets so Tump must be disrupting that cash flow. Same as it's always been; follow the money.

There is no crying foul. Please list the last President impeached and removed from office.

Now if it was a set up that the DNC did so much hard work to set up... they sure as fuck aren't going to NOT use it before the election and help guarantee Clinton gets elected.

Releasing the info NINE MONTHS after the election isn't going to do jack shit. The odds of an actual impeachment is about 0.00001% and even the idiots in the DNC know that.

You make sure Trump NEVER BECOMES PRESIDENT IN THE FIRST PLACE!

If memory serves none. That doesn't mean they won't try and that doesn't mean it won't have an adverse effect on the next election.

Nigga please. The DNC was caught red handed with their hands in the cookie jar trying to rig the election. Ask Bernie all about that.

The reason they didn't " make sure Trump NEVER BECOMES PRESIDENT IN THE FIRST PLACE!" has already been given, they never thought for one minute they'd lose. It's not like they didn't try. They threw so much money and BS at Trump they thought he had no chance of winning. George Soro's must be pissed. lol

Wrong, that is the LAMEST fucking excuse ever. IF it was a set up they sure as fuck would have used it. You don't take ANY chances whatsoever.

You people in these arguments crack me up. Every year there is a guy who breaks away for a touchdown and he doesn't think he is going to get caught and drops the ball on the one yard line like a fucking idiot. That's just a game...this is real life and these people will use any and every piece of dirt they have on each other to win, not stick it in their pocket for when it no longer matters.

Could you imagine how big on a deal this would have made in OCTOBER??? At the height of the Russian interference?

Well explain to me something then. If Obama was in office in October as the President of the United States with the FBI and CIA at his disposal and all the liberal accusations over Russia are true. Who dropped the ball?

Do you have any iota of an idea how long it takes to do a well worked government investigation? It doesn't happen over a few months... and Obama made sure to order his people to preserve the evidence.. for like what Mueller is doing now.

What did you expect Obama to do at the time? Cancel the election?

 

[JoeB131]

Even Christians teach the serpent=false prophet. It's common knowledge.

No, it's a rationalization after later generations "invented" Satan. Satan is barely mentioned in the early Old Testament. He is mentioned a lot in later writings when they try to separate God from evil.

The OT God is like most Bronze Age Dieties, he doesn't really care about humanity, he's just every force of nature they didn't understand.

 

[HaShev]

Even Christians teach the serpent=false prophet. It's common knowledge.

No, it's a rationalization after later generations "invented" Satan. Satan is barely mentioned in the early Old Testament. He is mentioned a lot in later writings when they try to separate God from evil.

The OT God is like most Bronze Age Dieties, he doesn't really care about humanity, he's just every force of nature they didn't understand.

You'll have to search my response to this mistake in comprehending what is being taught in Judaism about an Essence not a figure or form as finite source or description of creation, cause it's not appropriate here in political forum.

I do want to bring up that I finally got to see the actual email Goldstone sent
Don Jr and it's no way near the rewrite and reinvented narrative the NY Times, MSM, and Politicians, and TV analysis
have used. You should be outraged how you are being used and insulted to further the propaganda and agenda.
Look at the actual email then search google and every single liberal tabloid has different accounts of what it says and then notice only these liberal papers turn up in search engines even when you request a search for the original email.
In reading the email remember:
the information she claims to have is supposed to be about Hillary getting help from the Russian gov't, yet no MSM news cast or paper mention that fact, they instead mention it's info on her he'd be getting ftom Russian gov't.
Notice how a twist of words changes the narrative and focus?
You should be p'o'd that you are being played.

 

[Dragonlady]

The list of democrats tied to the Russian lawyer are now being revealed....the democrats push this line of crap at their own peril....

Russian Lawyer Who Met with Donald Trump Jr. Worked With Democrats For Years

For example, The Daily Caller News Foundation Investigative Group revealed on Wednesday that California Rep. Ron Dellums was a hired lobbyist for Veselnitskaya.

According to a Washington Post story, she worked for years on a case with Glenn Simpson, the founder of Fusion GPS, a firm that produced a widely discredited dossier against Trump.

She also worked with Christopher Cooper, the founder and CEO of Potomac Square Group, which has had Democratic clients including California Government Jerry Brown, Democratic presidential nominee Howard Dean, and Joe Trippi, according to the Daily Caller.

And it was Obama’s Attorney General Loretta Lynch that granted her an extension in late 2015 to stay in the U.S. after her visa was due to expire, under “extraordinary circumstances” related to defending a case in New York, according to The Hill. She was granted an extension through January, but it’s not yet clear how she was able to be in the U.S. in June 2016, when she met with Trump Jr., and again January 2017.


Four days after her meeting with Trump Jr. on June 9, 2016, she was in Washington, D.C. for a movie screening of an anti-Magnitsky Act film at the Newseum with at least five congressional staffers and State Department officials, according to The Hill.

The next day she attended a House hearing, sitting in the front row behind Obama’s former U.S. Ambassador to Russia Michael McFaul, who was testifying, according to photos of the hearing. McFaul has taken to Twitter to claim that Republicans placed her there, apparently next to his family members, and has denied any meetings with her.

Around that time, Veselnitskaya also attended a dinner with the chairman of the House subcommittee overseeing Russia policy, Rep. Dana Rohrabacher (R-CA), and about 20 other guests, according to the The Hill. Rohrabacher said he believed she and Dellums were there lobbying other lawmakers to reverse the Magnitsky Act.

What a bullshit piece by Breitbart. First off, it says that a Democrat Congressman was a lobbyist for Ms. V. How does a Congressman become a lobbyist for a lobbyist. That makes no sense.

Then it says that she worked with a guy from GPS on a case "for years". She came to the US in late 2015 to represent her Russian client in a money laundering trial, so how could she have worked with GPS "for years" when she's been in the US for less than 2 years?

I also notice how Breitbart completely ignores the fact that Jeff Sessions settled the money laundering case for less than 3 cents on the $1, or that her client laundered money by investing it inexpensive New York real estate.

Oh and her seat behind the Russian Ambassador at that Senate hearing, which Breitbart says "may have been arranged by Republicans", was arranged by Trump's Florida campaign manager.

No overt lies in the Breitbart piece, beyond the working for GPS for years, but lots of important facts either omitted outright, or quickly passed over.

 

[toobfreak]

The list of democrats tied to the Russian lawyer are now being revealed....the democrats push this line of crap at their own peril....

Russian Lawyer Who Met with Donald Trump Jr. Worked With Democrats For Years

For example, The Daily Caller News Foundation Investigative Group revealed on Wednesday that California Rep. Ron Dellums was a hired lobbyist for Veselnitskaya.

According to a Washington Post story, she worked for years on a case with Glenn Simpson, the founder of Fusion GPS, a firm that produced a widely discredited dossier against Trump.

She also worked with Christopher Cooper, the founder and CEO of Potomac Square Group, which has had Democratic clients including California Government Jerry Brown, Democratic presidential nominee Howard Dean, and Joe Trippi, according to the Daily Caller.

And it was Obama’s Attorney General Loretta Lynch that granted her an extension in late 2015 to stay in the U.S. after her visa was due to expire, under “extraordinary circumstances” related to defending a case in New York, according to The Hill. She was granted an extension through January, but it’s not yet clear how she was able to be in the U.S. in June 2016, when she met with Trump Jr., and again January 2017.


Four days after her meeting with Trump Jr. on June 9, 2016, she was in Washington, D.C. for a movie screening of an anti-Magnitsky Act film at the Newseum with at least five congressional staffers and State Department officials, according to The Hill.

The next day she attended a House hearing, sitting in the front row behind Obama’s former U.S. Ambassador to Russia Michael McFaul, who was testifying, according to photos of the hearing. McFaul has taken to Twitter to claim that Republicans placed her there, apparently next to his family members, and has denied any meetings with her.

Around that time, Veselnitskaya also attended a dinner with the chairman of the House subcommittee overseeing Russia policy, Rep. Dana Rohrabacher (R-CA), and about 20 other guests, according to the The Hill. Rohrabacher said he believed she and Dellums were there lobbying other lawmakers to reverse the Magnitsky Act.

As I understand it now, originally when Natalia Veselnitskaya tried to enter the country, she was denied, expired visa, then a few months later, with a still expired visa, Loretta Lynch made a special exception and let her in----- TO ACT AS THE DEFENDING ATTORNEY IN A CASE THE DOJ WAS PROSECUTING! That begs the question: What, don't we have any attorneys here to do the job? Why was she let in? Then amazingly, she turns up again as the attorney that Junior's talent friend contacted to meet him with to supposedly give him dirt on Hillary, who then turned out to not have anything at all.

AN ACT OF TREASON, MR. KAINE? You have to be at war with another country in order to commit treason on their behalf! We're not at war with Russia. And you wanted to be our Vice President?

COLLUSION WITH THE RUSSIANS? Nonsense. Read your laws since obviously no one in the DNC does. There is no such thing as a collusion statute, except in Anti-Trust laws. Were any anti-trust laws broken here??? Collusion isn't a crime anyway. Everybody uses information. The crime would be to hack, and no hacking was involved. No information was even exchanged! The meeting was set up as a total waste of time and for the bad optics it presented as an opportunity to create yet more baseless accusations.

VIOLATION OF CAMPAIGN ELECTION LAWS? Which ones? You have to donate money. Aside from the fact that Natalia had no information to offer, personal services is not a donation; foreign nationals can provide personal services, they do it all of the time. Everyone in Washington would be guilty if that were true.

 

[Marianne]

Now they are whining and calling foul hoping to distract away from the Trump agenda so nothing gets done. If nothing gets done they are hoping that it will influence the next election, especially if they can find an impeachable offense against Trump. It's all bull shit. The most disturbing thing is there are RINO"s helping with this shit. Face it, most of the politicians in Washington DC are only there to line their own pockets so Tump must be disrupting that cash flow. Same as it's always been; follow the money.

There is no crying foul. Please list the last President impeached and removed from office.

Now if it was a set up that the DNC did so much hard work to set up... they sure as fuck aren't going to NOT use it before the election and help guarantee Clinton gets elected.

Releasing the info NINE MONTHS after the election isn't going to do jack shit. The odds of an actual impeachment is about 0.00001% and even the idiots in the DNC know that.

You make sure Trump NEVER BECOMES PRESIDENT IN THE FIRST PLACE!

If memory serves none. That doesn't mean they won't try and that doesn't mean it won't have an adverse effect on the next election.

Nigga please. The DNC was caught red handed with their hands in the cookie jar trying to rig the election. Ask Bernie all about that.

The reason they didn't " make sure Trump NEVER BECOMES PRESIDENT IN THE FIRST PLACE!" has already been given, they never thought for one minute they'd lose. It's not like they didn't try. They threw so much money and BS at Trump they thought he had no chance of winning. George Soro's must be pissed. lol

Wrong, that is the LAMEST fucking excuse ever. IF it was a set up they sure as fuck would have used it. You don't take ANY chances whatsoever.

You people in these arguments crack me up. Every year there is a guy who breaks away for a touchdown and he doesn't think he is going to get caught and drops the ball on the one yard line like a fucking idiot. That's just a game...this is real life and these people will use any and every piece of dirt they have on each other to win, not stick it in their pocket for when it no longer matters.

Could you imagine how big on a deal this would have made in OCTOBER??? At the height of the Russian interference?

Well explain to me something then. If Obama was in office in October as the President of the United States with the FBI and CIA at his disposal and all the liberal accusations over Russia are true. Who dropped the ball?

Do you have any iota of an idea how long it takes to do a well worked government investigation? It doesn't happen over a few months... and Obama made sure to order his people to preserve the evidence.. for like what Mueller is doing now.

What did you expect Obama to do at the time? Cancel the election?

No but as you said if they'd known about anything fishy they'd have used it and they didn't. That must mean that they were clueless or there was nothing to see. Don't tell me that the DNC wasn't watching the Trump camp's every move before the election, of course they were. The Russia non incident is just the left putting obstacles in the way of the Trump agenda rather than doing what's right for the people they care so little about and doing productive legislature. The Leftards are whining because their efforts to throw money at the problem didn't work this time. Being whiney bitches won't work either because the people are tired of this shit. The only thing the left is doing now is ensuring that the right wins the next election. Thanks and keep it up.

 

[Lewdog]

There is no crying foul. Please list the last President impeached and removed from office.

Now if it was a set up that the DNC did so much hard work to set up... they sure as fuck aren't going to NOT use it before the election and help guarantee Clinton gets elected.

Releasing the info NINE MONTHS after the election isn't going to do jack shit. The odds of an actual impeachment is about 0.00001% and even the idiots in the DNC know that.

You make sure Trump NEVER BECOMES PRESIDENT IN THE FIRST PLACE!

If memory serves none. That doesn't mean they won't try and that doesn't mean it won't have an adverse effect on the next election.

Nigga please. The DNC was caught red handed with their hands in the cookie jar trying to rig the election. Ask Bernie all about that.

The reason they didn't " make sure Trump NEVER BECOMES PRESIDENT IN THE FIRST PLACE!" has already been given, they never thought for one minute they'd lose. It's not like they didn't try. They threw so much money and BS at Trump they thought he had no chance of winning. George Soro's must be pissed. lol

Wrong, that is the LAMEST fucking excuse ever. IF it was a set up they sure as fuck would have used it. You don't take ANY chances whatsoever.

You people in these arguments crack me up. Every year there is a guy who breaks away for a touchdown and he doesn't think he is going to get caught and drops the ball on the one yard line like a fucking idiot. That's just a game...this is real life and these people will use any and every piece of dirt they have on each other to win, not stick it in their pocket for when it no longer matters.

Could you imagine how big on a deal this would have made in OCTOBER??? At the height of the Russian interference?

Well explain to me something then. If Obama was in office in October as the President of the United States with the FBI and CIA at his disposal and all the liberal accusations over Russia are true. Who dropped the ball?

Do you have any iota of an idea how long it takes to do a well worked government investigation? It doesn't happen over a few months... and Obama made sure to order his people to preserve the evidence.. for like what Mueller is doing now.

What did you expect Obama to do at the time? Cancel the election?

No but as you said if they'd known about anything fishy they'd have used it and they didn't. That must mean that they were clueless or there was nothing to see. Don't tell me that the DNC wasn't watching the Trump camp's every move before the election, of course they were. The Russia non incident is just the left putting obstacles in the way of the Trump agenda rather than doing what's right for the people they care so little about and doing productive legislature. The Leftards are whining because their efforts to throw money at the problem didn't work this time. Being whiney bitches won't work either because the people are tired of this shit. The only thing the left is doing now is ensuring that the right wins the next election. Thanks and keep it up.

What do you mean nothing fishy? If it was a set up like you numbnuts keep implying, they had him dead to rights when he set up the meeting after being told the Russian government wanted to help his dad win...

 

[JoeB131]

I do want to bring up that I finally got to see the actual email Goldstone sent
Don Jr and it's no way near the rewrite and reinvented narrative the NY Times, MSM, and Politicians, and TV analysis
have used. You should be outraged how you are being used and insulted to further the propaganda and agenda.
Look at the actual email then search google and every single liberal tabloid has different accounts of what it says and then notice only these liberal papers turn up in search engines even when you request a search for the original email.
In reading the email remember:
the information she claims to have is supposed to be about Hillary getting help from the Russian gov't, yet no MSM news cast or paper mention that fact, they instead mention it's info on her he'd be getting ftom Russian gov't.
Notice how a twist of words changes the narrative and focus?
You should be p'o'd that you are being played.

Naw, it doesn't matter because they didn't actually have any information.

Trump was looking for dirt on Hillary, and he was willing to get it from the Russians.

That's treason, buddy.

 

[HaShev]

I do want to bring up that I finally got to see the actual email Goldstone sent
Don Jr and it's no way near the rewrite and reinvented narrative the NY Times, MSM, and Politicians, and TV analysis
have used. You should be outraged how you are being used and insulted to further the propaganda and agenda.
Look at the actual email then search google and every single liberal tabloid has different accounts of what it says and then notice only these liberal papers turn up in search engines even when you request a search for the original email.
In reading the email remember:
the information she claims to have is supposed to be about Hillary getting help from the Russian gov't, yet no MSM news cast or paper mention that fact, they instead mention it's info on her he'd be getting ftom Russian gov't.
Notice how a twist of words changes the narrative and focus?
You should be p'o'd that you are being played.

Naw, it doesn't matter because they didn't actually have any information.

Trump was looking for dirt on Hillary, and he was willing to get it from the Russians.

That's treason, buddy.

Even the Dems admit it's not treason, please read the definition, we are not at war with Russia.
Once again, it's not Russian dirt on Hillary it was supposed to be "info on Russia" interfering the election "by helping Hillary", the exact thing you dems claim to want to know about yet suddenly ignore when it's other countries like Ukraine or Mexico. -oops.

Notice you say the fake news doesn't matter, yet you are parroting what they tell you that leaves out the important stuff.
That makes you look foolish and do the propaganda for them like puppets on their string. Remember, they said they control what you think and we know they control what you view and how you perceive it through their wording and narrative.
If you like being a controlled robot then fine, but if you don't there's CSpan, PBS news, and research online to get perspectives from outside the robot manufacturing lab.

 

[deanrd]

It's all because of Obama, Hillary, the Ukraine or the media.
yea
yea
yea

 

[busybee01]

It could be a set up by the DNC. After rigging the primary it sounds like something they might do. Why didn't it come out before the election? Because the DNC realized Trump Jr. had done nothing wrong. Even if he intended to use info from the Kremlin, since none existed he did nothing illegal. You can't be arrested for intending to rob a bank if you never do. After the election they needed to throw fuel on the sputtering collusion fire and knew their mindless snowflake minions would swallow it up.

They did not rig the primaries. Democrat voters got who they wanted even if it was a questionable decision. If they went through all the trouble of setting it up then why wouldn't they use it? Trump Jr did something wrong. The court of public opinion is different from the court of law. Voters are already negative on Trump's relationship with Russia. The fact is that it does prove collusion or the willingness to collude. If you agree to a meeting to receive stolen goods, you are guilty even if you never get the stolen goods.

Sorry, but your are proving yourself wrong. You are correct that the court of public opinion is different from the court of law. However, it is public opinion by the left that he did something wrong, not law. The fact is that it does not prove collusion under the law just because you want it to. Willingness to collude, even it it did exist, is not an actionable offense under the law.

By the way, how do you know the majority of Democrat voters got who they wanted even if it was a questionable decision. If the primary was rigged, and they have admitted it was, you don't know what the majority wanted. In addition, by your previous argument, the DNC is guilty.

You are wrong. At the very best, it is sleazy behavior. Conspiring with a foreign agent to influence our elections is sleazy. Whether a crime was committed remains to be seen. If no law was broken, it is only because no one ever imagined that a American citizen would conspire with a foreign country to interfere in our elections. It shows the need for new laws. If a crime was committed then Jr should be charged. He went there with the intent to collude. The fact that it didn't turn out as he expected does not shield him from legal liability.

The primaries were not rigged. Not one person was denied the right to vote as long as they met the legal requirements. The rules were the same as they were in 2008 when Obama defeated Clinton. What the DNC did was admit that they supported Clinton a they did in 2008. That did not save Clinton.

 

[busybee01]

WHY WOULD THE DNC SET UP TRUMP'S CAMPAIGN AND NOT USE IT BEFORE THE ELECTION AND INSTEAD WAIT UNTIL JULY THE FOLLOWING YEAR? IT MAKES NO FUCKING SENSE. THEY WOULD HAVE RELEASED THE INFO BEFORE THE ELECTION TO HELP CLINTON WIN.

GIVE IT UP... IT WAS NOT SOME KIND OF TRICKY SET UP!

You just tripped over your own argument, why was Russian issue only important after Hillary lost and not before to help her win?
DEMS were cheating the election left and right, so they never expected to lose and the set up meetings were part of that cheating mainly to allow them surveillance of their oppnonent and were never illegal to bring up before election, because they were all citizens. The only illegal thing that transpired was the spying on those citizens by the Dems for political motive, who used these Russians as agents to do so (perhaps without their knowledge).

Now they are whining and calling foul hoping to distract away from the Trump agenda so nothing gets done. If nothing gets done they are hoping that it will influence the next election, especially if they can find an impeachable offense against Trump. It's all bull shit. The most disturbing thing is there are RINO"s helping with this shit. Face it, most of the politicians in Washington DC are only there to line their own pockets so Tump must be disrupting that cash flow. Same as it's always been; follow the money.

There is no crying foul. Please list the last President impeached and removed from office.

Now if it was a set up that the DNC did so much hard work to set up... they sure as fuck aren't going to NOT use it before the election and help guarantee Clinton gets elected.

Releasing the info NINE MONTHS after the election isn't going to do jack shit. The odds of an actual impeachment is about 0.00001% and even the idiots in the DNC know that.

You make sure Trump NEVER BECOMES PRESIDENT IN THE FIRST PLACE!

If memory serves none. That doesn't mean they won't try and that doesn't mean it won't have an adverse effect on the next election.

Nigga please. The DNC was caught red handed with their hands in the cookie jar trying to rig the election. Ask Bernie all about that.

The reason they didn't " make sure Trump NEVER BECOMES PRESIDENT IN THE FIRST PLACE!" has already been given, they never thought for one minute they'd lose. It's not like they didn't try. They threw so much money and BS at Trump they thought he had no chance of winning. George Soro's must be pissed. lol

Name 1 thing that the DNC did that prevented a Democrat from voting. Bernie Sanders is a liar if he tries to make that claim.

 

[JoeB131]

Even the Dems admit it's not treason, please read the definition, we are not at war with Russia.
Once again, it's not Russian dirt on Hillary it was supposed to be "info on Russia" interfering the election "by helping Hillary", the exact thing you dems claim to want to know about yet suddenly ignore when it's other countries like Ukraine or Mexico. -oops.

Guy, you need to stop obsessing over Hillary, okay. I realize that you've been doing this for 25 years now, and you've pretty much just fucked the country with your obsession, but that's not the topic here.

The topic here is, did Trump and his team collude with the Russians. You guys have gone from "No, never, never, never!" to , "Well, maybe, but that isn't a crime and eeek, Hillary."

 

[HaShev]

Even the Dems admit it's not treason, please read the definition, we are not at war with Russia.
Once again, it's not Russian dirt on Hillary it was supposed to be "info on Russia" interfering the election "by helping Hillary", the exact thing you dems claim to want to know about yet suddenly ignore when it's other countries like Ukraine or Mexico. -oops.

Guy, you need to stop obsessing over Hillary, okay. I realize that you've been doing this for 25 years now, and you've pretty much just fucked the country with your obsession, but that's not the topic here.

The topic here is, did Trump and his team collude with the Russians. You guys have gone from "No, never, never, never!" to , "Well, maybe, but that isn't a crime and eeek, Hillary."

In my best Reagan voice: "Well there you go again", using plural tense Russians to make the narrative about a gov't or country instead of "a" Russian lobbyist.

So you don't care if Hillary and Bill's greed inadvertantly caused 911, Afghan war, Iraq war, Isis, and maybe Syria crisis?
Through the emails which you also don't care about we positively know the Saudis gave the Clinton's money for favors.
Your party doesn't care to know what those favors were. Well then tell us caring person, why exactly did Bill Clinton let
Bin Laden slip away scott free when we (he) had him under grasp & targeted in 1998? Even Bill himself said he could have removed him or caotured him and regreted it. He said this at a speach in Australia on
9/10 our time zone but you forget Australia is ahead of our time. So did he think 911 already occured and felt guilty and compelled to mention his regret or was it a coincidence but his speach triggered the event? Or neither but his greed and favor to Saudis was to let Bin Laden go which he regreted even before he knew the traggic outcome? Why regret something before the guy became a regret?
How would a normal compassionate feeling human being say the trigger of events don't matter and mean nothing?
That makes you a sick individual.

 

[Marianne]

If memory serves none. That doesn't mean they won't try and that doesn't mean it won't have an adverse effect on the next election.

Nigga please. The DNC was caught red handed with their hands in the cookie jar trying to rig the election. Ask Bernie all about that.

The reason they didn't " make sure Trump NEVER BECOMES PRESIDENT IN THE FIRST PLACE!" has already been given, they never thought for one minute they'd lose. It's not like they didn't try. They threw so much money and BS at Trump they thought he had no chance of winning. George Soro's must be pissed. lol

Wrong, that is the LAMEST fucking excuse ever. IF it was a set up they sure as fuck would have used it. You don't take ANY chances whatsoever.

You people in these arguments crack me up. Every year there is a guy who breaks away for a touchdown and he doesn't think he is going to get caught and drops the ball on the one yard line like a fucking idiot. That's just a game...this is real life and these people will use any and every piece of dirt they have on each other to win, not stick it in their pocket for when it no longer matters.

Could you imagine how big on a deal this would have made in OCTOBER??? At the height of the Russian interference?

Well explain to me something then. If Obama was in office in October as the President of the United States with the FBI and CIA at his disposal and all the liberal accusations over Russia are true. Who dropped the ball?

Do you have any iota of an idea how long it takes to do a well worked government investigation? It doesn't happen over a few months... and Obama made sure to order his people to preserve the evidence.. for like what Mueller is doing now.

What did you expect Obama to do at the time? Cancel the election?

No but as you said if they'd known about anything fishy they'd have used it and they didn't. That must mean that they were clueless or there was nothing to see. Don't tell me that the DNC wasn't watching the Trump camp's every move before the election, of course they were. The Russia non incident is just the left putting obstacles in the way of the Trump agenda rather than doing what's right for the people they care so little about and doing productive legislature. The Leftards are whining because their efforts to throw money at the problem didn't work this time. Being whiney bitches won't work either because the people are tired of this shit. The only thing the left is doing now is ensuring that the right wins the next election. Thanks and keep it up.

What do you mean nothing fishy? If it was a set up like you numbnuts keep implying, they had him dead to rights when he set up the meeting after being told the Russian government wanted to help his dad win...

I'm talking about the whole thing not just Trump Jr. BTW if you think Hillary wouldn't have taken that bait had the Russian's approached her about dirt on Trump you're out of your mind, of course she would have. Again Obama was in charge and didn't find anything funny going on so according to the liberal Messiah there's nothing to see here AKA the Dimocraps are grasping at Russian straws trying to mislead the public because they are a bunch of butt hurt babies. Now do they think they can get back to doing what the public hired them for and do some actual work? Only one I see working up there, Democrat or republican, is Trump. Time for these Idiots to tackle a workable healthcare bill. I have the perfect solution. I think everybody in the USA should have the exact same heath coverage Congress has. Problem solved.

 

[Lewdog]

Wrong, that is the LAMEST fucking excuse ever. IF it was a set up they sure as fuck would have used it. You don't take ANY chances whatsoever.

You people in these arguments crack me up. Every year there is a guy who breaks away for a touchdown and he doesn't think he is going to get caught and drops the ball on the one yard line like a fucking idiot. That's just a game...this is real life and these people will use any and every piece of dirt they have on each other to win, not stick it in their pocket for when it no longer matters.

Could you imagine how big on a deal this would have made in OCTOBER??? At the height of the Russian interference?

Well explain to me something then. If Obama was in office in October as the President of the United States with the FBI and CIA at his disposal and all the liberal accusations over Russia are true. Who dropped the ball?

Do you have any iota of an idea how long it takes to do a well worked government investigation? It doesn't happen over a few months... and Obama made sure to order his people to preserve the evidence.. for like what Mueller is doing now.

What did you expect Obama to do at the time? Cancel the election?

No but as you said if they'd known about anything fishy they'd have used it and they didn't. That must mean that they were clueless or there was nothing to see. Don't tell me that the DNC wasn't watching the Trump camp's every move before the election, of course they were. The Russia non incident is just the left putting obstacles in the way of the Trump agenda rather than doing what's right for the people they care so little about and doing productive legislature. The Leftards are whining because their efforts to throw money at the problem didn't work this time. Being whiney bitches won't work either because the people are tired of this shit. The only thing the left is doing now is ensuring that the right wins the next election. Thanks and keep it up.

What do you mean nothing fishy? If it was a set up like you numbnuts keep implying, they had him dead to rights when he set up the meeting after being told the Russian government wanted to help his dad win...

I'm talking about the whole thing not just Trump Jr. BTW if you think Hillary wouldn't have taken that bait had the Russian's approached her about dirt on Trump you're out of your mind, of course she would have. Again Obama was in charge and didn't find anything funny going on so according to the liberal Messiah there's nothing to see here AKA the Dimocraps are grasping at Russian straws trying to mislead the public because they are a bunch of butt hurt babies. Now do they think they can get back to doing what the public hired them for and do some actual work? Only one I see working up there, Democrat or republican, is Trump. Time for these Idiots to tackle a workable healthcare bill. I have the perfect solution. I think everybody in the USA should have the exact same heath coverage Congress has. Problem solved.

I have no idea if Hillary would have, and quite honestly not a single person on this planet knows that answer definitely. And guess what? If the roles were reversed in this situation I'd be calling for her head.

The fact you Trumpbots come up with these EXTREMELY crazy conspiracy theories yet ignore evidence about Trump's team and ties to the Russians that are RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOUR FACE... tells me you are either brain dead, brainwashed by your partisanship, or you are such a deep denial you can't use any sense of logic or reasoning.

 

[Marianne]

Well explain to me something then. If Obama was in office in October as the President of the United States with the FBI and CIA at his disposal and all the liberal accusations over Russia are true. Who dropped the ball?

Do you have any iota of an idea how long it takes to do a well worked government investigation? It doesn't happen over a few months... and Obama made sure to order his people to preserve the evidence.. for like what Mueller is doing now.

What did you expect Obama to do at the time? Cancel the election?

No but as you said if they'd known about anything fishy they'd have used it and they didn't. That must mean that they were clueless or there was nothing to see. Don't tell me that the DNC wasn't watching the Trump camp's every move before the election, of course they were. The Russia non incident is just the left putting obstacles in the way of the Trump agenda rather than doing what's right for the people they care so little about and doing productive legislature. The Leftards are whining because their efforts to throw money at the problem didn't work this time. Being whiney bitches won't work either because the people are tired of this shit. The only thing the left is doing now is ensuring that the right wins the next election. Thanks and keep it up.

What do you mean nothing fishy? If it was a set up like you numbnuts keep implying, they had him dead to rights when he set up the meeting after being told the Russian government wanted to help his dad win...

I'm talking about the whole thing not just Trump Jr. BTW if you think Hillary wouldn't have taken that bait had the Russian's approached her about dirt on Trump you're out of your mind, of course she would have. Again Obama was in charge and didn't find anything funny going on so according to the liberal Messiah there's nothing to see here AKA the Dimocraps are grasping at Russian straws trying to mislead the public because they are a bunch of butt hurt babies. Now do they think they can get back to doing what the public hired them for and do some actual work? Only one I see working up there, Democrat or republican, is Trump. Time for these Idiots to tackle a workable healthcare bill. I have the perfect solution. I think everybody in the USA should have the exact same heath coverage Congress has. Problem solved.

I have no idea if Hillary would have, and quite honestly not a single person on this planet knows that answer definitely. And guess what? If the roles were reversed in this situation I'd be calling for her head.

The fact you Trumpbots come up with these EXTREMELY crazy conspiracy theories yet ignore evidence about Trump's team and ties to the Russians that are RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOUR FACE... tells me you are either brain dead, brainwashed by your partisanship, or you are such a deep denial you can't use any sense of logic or reasoning.

Wow you really did drink the liberal Koolaid if you think there's a possibility that she wouldn't have. Any politican would have.

Oh as crazy as you Dimbots coming up with non existent Russian crap that had no bearing on the election? If every charge the Dims have put forward was true where are the criminal charges? There aren't any because nothing criminal was done. last time I heard having "ties" to Russians isn't Illegal. Lots of business men have business in Russia. Hell Trump wasn't even a political so what state secrets did he give the Russian's? None because he knew none. I'll bet old Hillary has ties to Russia though and she does know state secrets.

No Crime has been committed which is why Trump hasn't been charged. It's all sour grapes on the part of the Democrats who are trying to sabotage the Trump Presidency hoping it will influence the next election. Guess what,it will. People are so fed up with this crap and nothing getting done the Democrats are handing the next election to the republicans on a silver platter. The 2020 dems be painted as obstructionist and ineffectual. Thanks for making Trump 2020 a victory. Keep up the good work.